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I Thought I Understood Credit Cards Until I Talked to This Guy

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you can get up to 500,000 with interest rates as low as 0% and repeat the [music] process

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every six months. And it's just that knowledge of knowing that that's even a possibility, more

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people would take advantage of it. Like Chase, for example, you can get up to 150,000 without any

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documentation, [music] 13 credit cards in just 10 days. He got 150,000% interest. He got 13 credit

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cards. He got a sign up bonus for each one. So he ended up walking away with like $15,600 in just

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free cash. He just wanted the cash. He didn't want to travel, but if he wanted to use it for travel,

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he actually could have got seven to 21x return off of it. Wow. Hundreds of thousands. Crazy.

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Wow. I can get my credit limit transferred into my bank account [music] and they'll do

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dollar in cash. Now, this could be cash to start a business, buy a business, develop real estate,

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buy real estate, an Airbnb, investment property, whatever. 0%. There are loopholes out there that

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are perfectly legal and ethical that everyday individuals can get. And if you don't have good

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credit, we talk all about very specifically how to get good credit in a short period of

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time. This is the episode for you. It applies to anyone and everyone. Please enjoy. How long

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have you been doing this? So, I've been in the funding like following what the banks

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do and what the mega wealthy do since 2011. So, I've been doing it for 15 years. Okay. I

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started in using it finally for real estate in 2015. Okay. And that started changing my

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life using credit cards to buy real estate. Okay. So, are you exclusively helping people

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get funding through credit cards or is that just one way? It's just one way, but the 0% interest,

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it's only in credit cards, but there's over 400 different products and services that the

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banks offer. uh mortgages first prioritize and then credit cards and then lines of credit or

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loans and then lastly auto loans. Oh, okay. In that order, like loans against cars that they

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own or just if you wanted to get like a vehicle or something like it's the easiest to get. Okay. So,

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you want to do that last versus a mortgage, they're going to be more critical about, you know,

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applications you've applied to in the last 6 months. So, let's say I own a plumbing business,

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million dollars in revenue. Yeah. I pay myself 150 a year. Yep. One crew. I want a second crew.

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I need a second van. I need a hire. I need to make some investments. Let's say I need 150.

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You said you start with mortgage. What would you advise me to do as step number one? Yeah. If you

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wanted to prioritize real estate right now and get a mortgage, then we would talk about that

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first. But if you're not, then you're just looking for capital, like working capital,

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cash, then you would go after credit cards. And I would want you to go after the 0%. And on the

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business side specifically if you're going to leverage it. Okay. And then if you needed

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vehicles to actually just grow and scale on that end, then we would prioritize that. You would just

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identify how many vehicles do you want. And then obviously we want to put it on the business side

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and we want you to leverage the full amount, not just like I don't want you to have to put

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anything in. Mhm. So, there's different loans and different opportunities that you could build the,

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for example, like Bank of America, you could open a brand new business account with them,

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wait about two weeks, put some money into it, and then afterwards apply online, and

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you can actually get up to four auto uh business loans up to $50,000 each very easily. Okay. So,

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if I let's just say I needed four vehicles for my business. Yeah. You'd go straight to that? Yeah,

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I would go straight to that to get preapproved. And then there's some cool hacks that I would

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recommend for just auto dealerships or getting a car in general, like going the last day of the

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month. And then also looking each dealership has like a uh leadership board. And so you want to

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look for that and you want to look at the guy on the last maybe not necessarily him because

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he might be getting canned already and go to the next guy right above it and go about 2 to 3 hours

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before they close. Okay. on the last day of the month on the last day of the month because they're

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willing the financing department and the company itself are willing to go hand over fist to be

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able to hit their quotas and hit their numbers. Maybe the last day of the quarter even better,

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right? Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. Yep. And so John is the second or third worst. I've sold used cars

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before. It was the worst. Yeah. But uh you're thinking, "All right, this guy's hungry. Like

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he needs something for real. he's willing to to maybe sell it for a little less than the manager

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is willing to work out something for them just to keep them alive. Like they care more about the

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volume and so sometimes they'll be okay with even taking sometimes a loss. You'll get the best deal

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then. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So that's just kind of like you consulting. But in addition to that, you

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would probably say go to Bank of America. Yeah. Get those pre-approvals first because now you

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have more power to go into. Yeah. And then now you can really negotiate because it's like, oh, it's

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basically cash. Yeah. You know, like I'm good to go right here. Okay. Would it take for a business

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owner to qualify for that one specifically? Like 700 credit score or what what would they look for?

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Yeah. Ideally, they're looking at credit score. They're looking at sometimes bank statements

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uh just the last two to three months. Okay. So, there's cool different techniques that you can do

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just to they just want to see more money going in than going out. Yeah. over the last 30, 60,

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90 days in some cases. Does the bank care about profit or revenue and or like transaction volume?

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They care about transaction volume. Uh they care about how many transactions. They get very jealous

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and territorial cuz they're marketing companies. Basically, they're competing against other banks.

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So, they want to feel like they're the only one. So, if you can be with them for a long time,

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never close out your bank accounts, have multiple products and services with these banks, and then

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have at least 17 transactions or so per month going in and out of 17. Yeah. Okay. Cuz otherwise,

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if it's just sitting there, then it feels like it feels like it's stagnant. It's going to run

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out eventually, right? They need to see movement. Yes. They want to see movement. They want to feel

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like they're the only ones. They're looking at the average balance that you're holding. They want to

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see more money going in than going out. Some banks care all the way up to 6 months, you know, but a

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lot of them 30, 60, 90 days they'll care about. Hey, if you are enjoying this episode, please take

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a second to make sure you are subscribed to this channel cuz you might think you are, but you're

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probably not. Just hit subscribe. Maybe share it with a friend that could use some funding for

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their business. It could change their life and it would mean a lot to me. Thank you. Okay, so let's

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say I need 100 grand for my business just for operating capital or whatever. I'm assuming credit

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cards in that case. Yeah, especially 0%. The 0% is anywhere from 6 months to 24 months, but on

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average it's very common to see 18 months. Okay? And the cool part is every six months per person,

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you can repeat the process and and do it again. Okay. And so our goal is to show members how to

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actually get up to 500,000. So if you got just 100,000, it'd be a super disappointment. Yeah.

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How is that possible? Like what types of cards are you having to put together to get 500? Sure.

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Anywhere from 10 to 50 plus applications. Okay. at different cards. Yeah. Like MX, Chase, whatever.

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Well, those are those are the common big banks. So, how we break it down is three levels. Big

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banks first, regional banks second, small local credit unions last. Okay? There's a lot of power

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in the small local credit unions, but each one's going to be different between your area. Okay? And

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there's the fewest of the big banks, and there's probably like a medium amount of the regional

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banks, and there's thousands of the of the credit unions. Is there thousand? So big banks, there's

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about a dozen or so, maybe a little bit more. You know, Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo,

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City, Capital, the most money. Yeah, they have the most money, you know. So, they're going to

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be some somewhat easy, but they also have certain bank rules. Like, have you ever heard of the Chase

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5 and 24 rule? Mm. Or the 2 and 30day rule. So, these rules are specific to the big banks like

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Chase. The two and 30 day rule is if if you've already been approved for two cards in the last

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30 days with Chase, they're going to naturally deny you for a third. Okay? Unless you have a

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business bank relationship manager that's good and knows what they're doing. If you've applied for

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and got approved for five cards with any banks in the last 24 months, two years with Chase, they're

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just going to deny you. Okay. Because they're very jealous and territorial. And they're not great,

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but there are rules to the game. Yeah. So, if someone were to get 500,000 in zerointerest

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credit cards, what would that breakdown look like? How much would they be getting from the big banks

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versus medium versus credit unions? Yeah, that's a good question. It is probably on the lines of like

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two to 300 they could get just from the big banks. Okay. Like 150 to 250, something like

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that. The regional banks, you can get another 200 or so. And then small local credit unions.

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All this really depends on your relationships with them and what you're saying and what your current

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credit profile looks like. If you have credit cards with limits under $1,000, then when a new

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bank pulls your credit, they're going to see, "Oh, this bank over here that you've had a relationship

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for, they don't like them. Why should I like them?" Exactly. They're they're going to say,

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"Well, they don't trust you with even $1,000. Why should we?" Yeah. So, it's important to use your

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credit properly to get high limits and saying the right things. Once you do that and you position

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yourself in a good stance, then you're just doing it in a domino effect. And if you get that, like,

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are you just getting a cash advance wired to you? Yeah. So, liquidation, right? How do you

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liquidate the credit cards into cash, right? So, there's dozens of ways to be able to do this. How

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I originally started is there's, you know, the quote unquote balance transfer or cash advance

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like you mentioned, but you want to make sure it's at a promotional rate. If you don't do that,

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then it's going to end up being the mafia rates of 20, 30, 40%. So, you don't want to do that. But

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you can call into them and you can ask, "Is there any way that I can get my credit limit transferred

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into my bank account?" And they'll do it the very next day. The cool part is usually it's a flat fee

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of 1 to 5%. Okay? There's other platforms like Plastic that you can use, Bill Pay, Zill Money,

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Milo. There there's dozens of different ways. they can just become a little bit more terms

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and conditions. You got to understand them so you can weave through them. Okay. So, if I have

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like a venture rewards card, $40,000 limit, I call them up and say, "Hey, I need I need that 40 grand

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in my checking account." Yeah. And there they'll say 1% fee. And I say, "Done." Done. Yeah. Okay.

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That's that's pretty common. It's common for about 3%. That's a more common fee. You're saying 3%.

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Okay. And some like Chase or some of these other banks they've been doing the last year or so,

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they've been doing more of that closer to 5% flat fee. Okay. So, in this case, it would be $1,200

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fee. Not getting that back, right? You're not getting that back. It's one time. It they just

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they'll liquidate the full amount. They'll put it into your uh into your checking account. You can

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use it. It's cash. You're responsible for making your monthly minimums, right? And then it's 0%

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interest for let's say 18 months. So, it's not due the whole principal until then. There's certain

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little terms and conditions you want to be mindful of. Many times you can't use that credit card for

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any new transactions. If there's a little bit of availability on it. If you use a transaction

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or a subscription on it, then it will actually start hitting you with interest for all of it.

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It's crazy. I learned that mistake a few times and luckily you can call in kind of complain and and

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they'll reverse it and get you taken care of. But then I have like a full credit limit and that's

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not good for your credit, right? Don't you want lower credit utilization score? Correct. So that's

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why when you leverage, you want to do it more on the business side. Mhm. The personal is really

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your foundation to get more business. And down the road, let's say you get a million in personal

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credit down the road. You can use 29% of it and it's not going to hurt your score. It's not going

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to fluctuate your score going up and down even on the personal side. So, if you get a million on the

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personal side, then you can take out 290,000, have a balance of it, and it's not going to affect your

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score. Okay? So, let's say I want to buy like a short-term rental, right? Something for Airbnb,

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it's 500,000, the bank needs 15% down. Y, so 75 grand, right? If that were you personally, you

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wanted to buy a $500,000 Airbnb. Yeah. What would you do specifically to get that 75 grand? You had

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no cash in the bank. You had no what if you have no business? You have you have no entity, no LLC,

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nothing, dude. This was my story exactly. I didn't have an LLC. I went after business credit though

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anyway. Okay. And so with some banks, especially the big ones, you don't necessarily even need an

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LLC. You're just like a sole proprietor. Yeah. It's just a doing business as and I put my social

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for the EIN number, you know, and so my score was good. Luckily, I had decent sized credit limits

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from every six months just randomly asking for more. and I paid it off like I would use the card

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heavily and I would pay it off each day, you know, just get into that routine. So, so I don't need to

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get out of control with it. At the end of the day with certain credit cards, let's say you have like

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a $20,000 credit card limit, right, with Chase, for example, and then you have another airline

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credit card with Chase that is a uh a $50,000 limit, but it's not 0% interest, but you're like,

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"What am I doing with this card?" You can actually call that bank like Chase and just ask them to

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transfer the limit over into your 0% interest card that 20,000. You can combine it. You know that

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whole bank, Chase, they've given you the threshold of 70,000 or whatever you know those numbers are,

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right? Yeah. And so you can just leave $1,000 on that one card, transfer the rest of the limit on

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this 0% interest card, be able to stack it up. Yeah. Yeah. And then I would ask them,

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hey, is there a way that I can I have this great opportunity, like I want to take advantage of it.

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It's going to be an awesome investment, you know, can I use your balance transfer, the promotional

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uh 0%, you know, and get hit with a flat fee. They'll put it in the bank account. And balance

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transfer, that's just you getting the credit limit as cash in your checking account. Yeah. So,

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the balance transfers, truthfully, it's their best terminology that they're going to understand.

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Yeah. So, the best thing that you can do is either label it as the balance transfer or cash advance,

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but at a promotional rate. And you want it not to pay off any other credit cards or any other

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business. That's what I think of as a balance transfer. 100%. Yeah. But instead, you want it

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into your bank account. Okay. Do you ever use Busy for making LLC's, new entities? 100%. Yeah. Busy

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is the best. Yeah. Yeah. It used to be incile.com. They're great. Anybody that's looking to set up a

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brand new one, it's it's a great resource. You can even call them. They're very communicative

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and understanding and like can kind of guide you through, but within 15 minutes you got a brand new

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entity. 200 bucks later, it's like the next day, right? Well, because the the state filing websites

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are terrible. Like they're so work with and Busy doesn't even charge like if you need registered

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agent services, they'll charge you for that, but you have to pay for that anyway. It's like

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they just charge you the state filing fees that they pass on. So, it's like simple. I love busy.

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I mean, what I love about it is there's so many things you have to remember as a business owner to

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do. And the last thing I want to think about are like registered agent services, filing documents,

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deadlines, random fees, unemployment, this or that. Like I've gotten so many scary letters in

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the mail in my 17 years of being an entrepreneur. I use Busy to just handle all of that. So it I can

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just forget about it, worry about sales and marketing, the things I'm good at, and Bizzy

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can just take care of all the regulatory document stuff that frankly I find kind of boring. Anyway,

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I mean, every state that you try to file these LLC's in has different deadlines,

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different documents, different requirements, different boxes to check. And with Bizzy,

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I don't even need to worry about it. They have a clean user interface. I just do it through them,

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and I can rest assured that it's all taken care of. Well, and Bizzy will do your EIN,

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too, I think. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, you can add it all in there, and I highly recommend it. Yeah. So,

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if that were you in that case, you wanted to buy this Airbnb in this scenario, what kind of a

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credit score would you need to have to be able to get funding? you can really be in even the 600s,

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like high 600s. If you don't have any late payments, collections, derogatory remarks at all,

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then most likely you're in the low to mid700s. Uhhuh. Okay. And if you're there, there's no

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reason in the world why you can't be and you shouldn't be in the 800 club in the next 30

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days. Yeah. It's very simple. It's very easy. So getting to the 800 club in 30 days, all it comes

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down to is after the fixing is done, you're not going to have there's six boxes that make up your

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credit profile. Three of those are for fix related like late payments or your payment history, uh

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derogatory accounts like collections, charge off, things like that. And then your hard inquiries.

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Okay. The other three boxes are for build. Those make up 55% of your FICO. Okay. And so it's a big

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deal and a lot of people sleep on it. What that includes is the total accounts. You want to be

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at 21 plus total accounts. Like total accounts as in bank accounts, credit cards, like they

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don't shopping cards or Yeah. Yeah. So they don't count bank accounts like checking and savings,

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but they do for loans, credit cards, shopping carts. Yeah. So it's six different products. It's

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uh personal loans, auto loans, mortgages, student loans, uh retail credit cards, and regular credit

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cards. Okay. So six different products. So 21 plus of those is ideal. Yeah. It's not the myth that we

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grew up with having only two or three, you know, they want to see mixed use as well that you can

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handle and manage credit properly. So that makes up 10% of your FICO. Your average credit age,

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