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Canada's housing productivity problem

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It's a major push in Canada to

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accelerate home building. Although in

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some places such as Ontario, the number

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has been stagnating. In any case, our

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guest says we really want to improve

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affordability in housing. We need to

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confront a major issue, productivity in

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residential construction. Let's get more

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from Murtaza Haider, professor and

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executive director of the Cities

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Institute at the University of Alberta.

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Thanks very much indeed for joining us.

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My pleasure. Thank you for having me. So

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you co-wrote an op-ed, and you argue

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that one of the problems here is just

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worker productivity in residential

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construction has not been going up. Just

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talk about that problem first if you

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would.

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Absolutely. We worked with

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McDonald-Laurier Institute for about a

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year and wrote this report from which

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the op-ed you saw,

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analyzing the

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declining residential construction

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productivity not just in Canada but also

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in the United States. It so happens that

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of all the industrial sectors,

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residential construction or construction

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in general has the lowest productivity.

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What does it mean in fact? It's that we

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are using more workers, laborers now to

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produce a home than we did some 20, 30,

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or 40 years ago. And over the years, the

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building firms, construction firms have

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been spending more on labor than on

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investing in technology or capital to

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increase the productivity. The result is

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that we are building as many homes as we

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did in the 1970s but with three times

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more workers. And that is a serious

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challenge because if we continue to do

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this, we will be spending more, our cost

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of construction will continue to

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increase, but our throughput in

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annual in

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construction would remain around 250,000

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housing starts, which hasn't changed

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over the last many years. Murtaza, why

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has productivity per worker dropped?

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Many reasons for it. First is that

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we have lots of lot more regulation, red

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tape now. So a lot of people are workers

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are not just necessarily involved in

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construction. They're more so involved

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in

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compliance with the regulations, new

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laws, and whatnot. We also have on the

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industry side

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lots of small firms. The construction

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sector in Canada is notorious for having

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a very large number of very small firms.

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In fact, there's only one construction

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firm with over 500 employees in Canada.

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This is from CMHC's research. So what

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does it mean for us? It means that these

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are small firms, too many, and they

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don't have the means to negotiate better

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rates, better wages, or better

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investment in technology so they are

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able to produce more homes with less

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labor and are more efficient. So this

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atomized structure, this over

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overly restrictive environment for

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construction, too much regulation and

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red tape, all has contributed to a

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decline in construction productivity.

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Just expand a bit if you could. Why

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would productivity have dropped over the

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years?

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So over the years, imagine like if you

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go back to 1970s, we built about 2.7

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million homes

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in that decade. And the number of

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workers I would believe was no more than

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250,000 then. And then slowly we see

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that we are investing more and more in

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labor, and the cost of construction has

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gone up. If you look at the construction

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cost indices, they have gone up by 60,

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70, 80% since the onset of the pandemic.

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So basically we haven't invested in

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maybe perhaps training the workers

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to be more productive. In fact, there's

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a good example of one of the economists

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in Toronto used, and he said, if you

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take a pilot from the '50s and drop them

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in a cockpit of a modern plane today,

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they wouldn't know what to do. But if

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you take a worker, construction worker

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from the '50s and drop them at a

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construction site today, they'll be more

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efficient probably than most workers

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because they have known the short trick,

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shortcuts, and everything. So that's a

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problem that we that we have too many

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workers, we have not perhaps trained

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them because that's why we are using

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more home. And at the same time in in in

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in fairness to the industry, the homes

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today are also much larger and more

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complex than the homes that were built

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in the '60s and '70s. So these all these

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factors are at play, but what is needed

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desperately for Canada, if you want to

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change this, is to invest more in

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industrial production of housing,

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modular pre-fab construction in

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industrialized environments. We produce

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more, the higher throughput, bring them

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and assemble them in record time, so

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bring the construction time down from

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months or years into three or three

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months or less.

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That is the way forward, and we have to

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invest significantly, especially for the

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Build Canada Home, that is the

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government's new initiative looking at

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construction and increasing

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productivity. Why don't they invest in

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producing social non-market housing? Use

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and invest deeply in in in the modular

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production of homes and fix two

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problems, increase the productivity and

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also increase the supply of social

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housing in Canada.

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The construction industry is notoriously

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conservative though, isn't it? I think

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it was the Toronto Star had a piece

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recently. People wanting to put in heat

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pumps were told by loads of contractors,

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"Oh, it won't work in this climate."

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Simply because they didn't want to

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learn a new skill and do things

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differently.

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I wouldn't go that far. I mean, I I work

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very closely with the industry, and I

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see innovations. It's just that those

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who are bigger bigger builders who build

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maybe 2,000 homes or more, they have the

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means or the capacity to invest in

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technology and train their workers to be

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more productive. It's the challenges

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with those who build five, 10, 50 homes

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a year. They don't have the means or the

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and the deeper pockets to be able to

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invest in capital rather than labor. So

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what they do is when they get more work,

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they just get more workers rather than

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thinking that there's a better way of

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increasing their profitability, lowering

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the cost of construction, reducing the

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time of construction, and be more

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productive at it. And that requires

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investment in industrialized housing.

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Murtaza, thank you very much. Murtaza

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Haider, professor and executive director

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at the Cities Institute at the

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University of Alberta.

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