What a CIA Veteran Sees in Joe Kent Nobody Else Does | John Kiriakou
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So, uh, what is your take on this whole
Joe Kent resignation?
>> Oh,
I sent you the the I sent you the clip
of what was her name? Whitney Webb.
Yeah.
>> Who I like. I love her stuff. I I'm
halfway through her book, one of her
books right now. I think she's super
smart, very diligent. Um, and you know,
when I heard her make this take about
Whitney Webb, I'm like, "Okay, maybe
she's connecting some dots or seeing
some [ __ ] fractal pattern that I'm
incapable of seeing because she's done
so much research,
>> right?"
>> Um, but we'll talk about that. What is
your whole take on everything?
>> Normally, she's great
>> when it comes to some of these issues.
She's great, for example, on the Epstein
Files.
>> Yes.
>> Just wonderful.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> And on other Yeah. That's right. That's
right.
deep research. I think she's just plain
wrong
>> on on Joe Kent. Funny, you know, I I
didn't I didn't support his uh his
nomination to be the director of the
National Counterterrorism Center. I I
just thought he wasn't qualified.
>> When did he first become the director of
the National Counter?
>> A year ago.
>> A year ago. Okay.
>> He's young and I thought he was too
young for a position like that. I mean,
you're you're essentially the head of of
an independent agency. Mhm.
>> Um,
>> and one of the things, just to clarify
for people, by the way, I think what
Whitney Webb's take on it was
>> was that uh he she said he was a top
spook.
>> No, he was not.
>> Okay. I don't know.
>> Not in any definition of the word spook.
>> Okay. So, she she what she said on Jimmy
Door's show um I think last week or a
couple days ago was that when somebody
comes from the CIA or is a top spook in
her words um and resigns, she thinks
that she might he might be trying to
garner public trust um in order to do
some sort of a misdirection or whatever.
and she used the explanation.
>> She she referenced a speech that
Elizabeth Newman gave during Trump's
first presidency
about
um domestic terrorism and focusing on
far-right
uh anti-semitic
right-wing nationalists or whatever,
focusing them on them for domestic
terrorism. And I guess my best
understanding of what she was saying was
that he might they might be trying to
use Kent to corral all those people
together and trying to make it easier to
target them or something.
>> Is that
>> that's just not real life. MK Ultra is
over.
>> It finished in 1975.
>> That that kind of stuff just isn't
>> it's just not a part of reality.
>> Mhm. Yeah, I I um
I'm a member of this group called uh
VIPS, Veteran Intelligence Professionals
for Sanity. So, it's it's made up of
retired CIA, FBI, NSA, some DoD,
um, people, a lot of spies, and
they researched the daylights out of
this, and decided to give him the Sam
Adams Award for Integrity and
Intelligence because
they believe, we believe that
what we see is is what we're getting.
>> Yeah. that he resigned because of the
because of his personal opposition to
the war in Iran. He believes that the
intelligence was ignored. Um he believes
that the intelligence that was not
ignored was given to us by the Israelis
and it was false intelligence
and I say amen to that.
>> Mhm.
>> So no, I don't believe that there's any
kind of like behind the scenes
>> Yeah.
>> Uh subtuge. And Joe said, I think on
Tucker's podcast, that he still had full
access to all information before he
resigned, which means that he wouldn't
have been being investigated before he
resigned. The investigation was a media
narrative hit or something like that
that happened after,
>> right? And you know, investigation is a
word that is thrown around a lot uh
inappropriately. What happens if if
somebody
if somebody goes on TV, let's say, and
makes a revelation
>> and the information may be classified or
could be construed as classified. The
CIA or ODNI, the Office of the Director
of National Intelligence, will file
something called a crimes report with
the Department of Justice.
99% of the crimes reports are ignored,
right? Only if it's something egregious
or it's seen as something egregious will
DOJ actually initiate a uh an
investigation. And there's no there's no
evidence that any serious investigations
taking place.
>> Interesting. Yeah. It seems like it's uh
standard operating procedure for the
government against whistleblowers.
They're they're a Kremlin agent
basically, you know, how they treat them
all. Right.
>> Yes. Exactly. Right. And he also said,
which was wild, that he was sort of
shued off the Charlie Kirk investigation
because he thought that he
>> That is wild.
>> He said he wasn't able to do the the
adequate research or analysis on whether
a foreign asset. He was he wasn't
accusing Israel. He was very measured
about that.
>> I was just going to say that he was not
making any accusations.
>> He was just saying that there were loose
threads that he wanted to run to ground
>> and he was not permitted to do that.
What do you make of that? What do you
think that is?
>> That bothers me very, very much. You
know, on the one hand,
Candace Owens sometimes sounds like a
crazy person when she says, "Oh, when
Charlie Kirk was killed, the Egyptian
Air Force was flying in this pattern and
it coincided with what are you talking
about? The Egyptian Air Force did not
kill Charlie Kirk." That just sounds
crazy. That's not what Joe Kent was
talking about. Joe Kent was talking
about clandestinely collected
information
that did not easily fit into
the general consensus that this kid shot
Charlie Kirk. I mean, it looks like he
did, but who knows? You don't know until
you investigate. And so you want to run
to ground these little isolated bits of
information that people are collecting
whether domestically or overseas.
>> And he wasn't allowed to do that.
>> I have no idea why he wouldn't be
allowed to do that. You know,
>> have you ever heard of another case
similar to this where people would be
kicked away from the case other than
JFK? Maybe.
>> I was just going to say even in the JFK
case,
>> the information was collected. It just
has never been released,
>> but it was collected.
Yeah.
>> And the story just came out yesterday
that the bullet that hit Charlie Kirk
was not the bullet from that gun that
they found that the FBI said was his.
>> Oh, I didn't see that.
>> Can you find that, Steve?
>> Daily Mail. The bullet used to kill
Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle
allegedly used by the suspect Tyler
Robinson. New court filing claims.