Amazon Bailing out AMC | AMC & APE Moon vs Bankruptcy
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hey everyone meet Kevin here I think
it's time to have an honest discussion
about AMC in this video we're going to
talk about how much ape AMC has sold
we're going to do some projections to
try to understand the AMC valuation
we'll talk about what Amazon just
announced and how much that could move
the box office from a fundamentals point
of view
now look I've been a little aggressive
about uh ape and I've mostly been
aggressive about ape and AMC because I
kind of thought that ape was a rip-off
and was going to hurt a lot of people so
I sold my own ape shares
and kind of told everyone it'd probably
be a good idea to do that as well and I
want you to see the passion in that
video clip which I'll show you right
here let's make this very very clear ape
is a ploy it is a ploy to hope that Meme
stock Traders pump up ape stock to the
moon so that way there's a sustained
Market AMC can dump shares raise lots of
money and pay off their debt and again
if you want a free nft to Showcase how
stupid it is to hold your ape shares
make sure to go to the AMC investor
connect website and get your free nft
because let me tell you ape Shares are
going to be worth as much as that nft is
going to be worth
zero in six to 12 months I expect to
ticker symbol 8 will be worth one dollar
or less that would be an 86 percent
decline from today and it'll be
worthless and delisted soon after that
the hope is that AFC will have paid off
all of their debt before ape becomes
worthless but until 8 becomes worthless
AMC will continue to use it as a free
money printer and this is a brilliant
farce so I got a lot of hate from the
AMC Community for this I was called a
shill a sellout a suit yet I sold my AP
shares at over eight dollars and now
it's trading for
1.21 cents we're almost at the one
dollar that I predicted and I'm not
trying to Pat myself on the back I'm
just trying to help people see a red
flag when I see it
and people got mad at me for selling in
January
in hindsight I wish I never got back in
right because I was right about selling
and so when I see something fundamental
I'm not suggesting you copy me exactly
or do exactly what I say all I would say
is hey let's have a reasonable dialogue
and try to understand what's actually
going on
with that said let's talk about
AMC
the movie theater and let's talk about
this Amazon deal that just came out so
we're gonna incorporate these two things
first in the last earnings Adam Aaron
suggested that hey you know what we've
had a soft box office quarter and so
revenue is declined sequentially that
means quarter over quarter okay uh In
fairness they did and if you put the
quarter over quarter numbers in red on
the left you'd actually be able to
properly compare the quarter over
quarter numbers see we don't really want
to compare to uh 2021 because people
weren't going to movie theaters as much
we kind of want to compare quarter to
quarter and maybe even back to 2019.
back in 2019 we were doing around 1 to
1.3 billion dollars of Revenue and in Q2
it looked like we were kind of going
back in that direction at about 1.16
billion dollars of Revenue however
quarter of a recorder those revenues
slipped in total 17 and you can see how
the categories have declined here other
theater Revenue down 24. other revenues
of course come from Those ads that you
see before a movie plays and things like
gift cards okay then we saw operating
expenses stable in Q2 which is good we
really don't want to see these explode
because that would mean employee costs
are going up right and then Q2 they were
at 402.2 and in Q3 they were again
stable 400.6 okay good so stable
operating the industry just shrunk a
little bit that's not necessarily AMC's
fault that's just okay a bad box office
quarter the biggest problem with AMC
though is of course over here corporate
borrowings corporate borrowings went up
with the expense went up by about five
million dollars as interest rates are
increasing and AMC refinanced some of
its debt presumably presumably at a
higher interest rate leading to this
higher interest expense in the quarter
rising from 80 million dollars to 85.1
the operating loss if you just consider
operations uh was only 16.1 million
dollars but then when you take out other
costs and depreciation and of course
interest you get to a total loss of 226
million dollars and if you want to know
what kind of cash burn that is in terms
of cash flows since obviously
depreciation isn't an actual cash
expense cash burn is sitting at
179.2 million dollars which is a little
bit of a problem given that right now
AMC has
684.6 million dollars so how do we
reconcile all of this and if you want to
know the refinance information that's
actually sitting right here they
refinanced a 471 million dollar loan at
12.75 that by the way is why yes your
interest expense is rising so you've got
a company in an industry that is
somewhat shrinking you don't actually
have a lot of cash operating expenses
are are stable and your interest expense
is rising at 85 million per quarter you
actually don't have a lot of runway in
fact if we do some quick math we can see
with 684.6 million dollars of cash
assuming they get to a break even
without touching their credit lines they
have two years of cash and then they're
out of cash then they have to start
borrowing again
uh if you don't go break even and you
keep having these negative nearly 200
million dollar quarters you'll be out of
cash at AMC in three months and then
unfortunately it's either borrow more
increasing that uh that corporate debt
expense or it's go bankrupt but we have
to talk about this thing called ape ape
are the
AMC preferred Equity shares uh I got a
lot of heat for talking about these ape
shares basically being a setup uh and a
tool for AMC to basically just
give the AMC Apes that is retail
investors something to be excited about
something to go to the moon for
something to go fight for
only to turn around and dump those
shares on that retail audience using the
money they raise there to pay off the
debt at AMC now I personally actually
thought this was a pretty creative Ploy
because if they could rip off retail
investors at least they would be able to
pay off their debt and if they paid off
their debt they could make sure that the
30 000 people who work at AMC don't go
jobless if the company goes bankrupt
unfortunately the company hasn't done a
really good job at ripping people off I
hate to say that because the stock has
plummeted as I unfortunately predicted
the stock has plummeted from where I
sold it in the Eight dollar range all
the way to as we see here a dollar and
21 cents but what bothers me the most is
that this stock this is the weekly chart
by the way let's zoom out to the day
chart here so you can see this a little
more you could see with every one of
these ticks representing a day they this
company AMC had plenty of days to dump
shares all over here look at that you
had almost all of all you had you had 30
days here 30 days that you could have
sold this stock for over five dollars
over five dollars they could have sold
the stock for and dumped on retail and
what did they decide to do instead
well they didn't
instead they decided to just sell 14.9
million shares raising only 36.4 million
dollars which is a drop in the bucket
relative to the debt they have 36.4
million dollars doesn't even pay for two
weeks of Interest
it's bad and if you divide these two it
means as of on November 8th they've been
selling at a
2.44 average now the Stock's only worth
a buck 21. so they have to sell twice as
many shares
just to raise more money and I think
they're starting to panic because you
even see that today which is really
weird today AMC stock actually Rose
4.3 percent but ape stock which usually
moves in conjunction with AMC stock
fell four percent that's really weird
and look at this massive volume boost
all of a sudden you went from an average
of 13 to 20 million shares traded all
the way to 46 million shares that's a
difference of about 25 million shares
which In fairness if they sold if this
was AMC selling they potentially raised
another congratulations two weeks worth
of Interest 30 million dollars except
they pushed the stock more into the
abyss that's the ape shares now I expect
ape to be milk to dry and basically
become completely worthless this is what
I've been saying for a while now but
sometimes people get mad at me when I
talk about fundamentals so what am I
going to do well no I'm not going to
pitch you my program on fundamental
analysis stocks and psychology of money
zero to millionaire real estate
investing with a 60 off Black Friday
coupon code which comes up in a couple
days but instead I'm gonna talk dirty to
you and give you some more fundamental
analysis
Amazon announced today that they plan to
invest one billion dollars to produce 12
to 15 feature films a year that they
would air in cinemas
the box office according to Bloomberg
intelligence is expected to grow by 18.4
percent in 2023 and could go up by
another 15 to 20 percent because of
Amazon
that's because in 2022 we are uh sitting
at about 1 or 7.6 billion dollars of a
box office that'll go up to hopefully 9
billion in 2023 and maybe even another
15 to 20 on top of that if this uh AMC
uh plan comes to fruition in 2023 so
what do we want to do well let's take
Amazon or um Amazon let's take AMC's
revenue and let's just average out Q2
and Q3 and let's take about a billion
dollars of Revenue just to make math
easy let's just say that's about your
average quarterly Revenue let's now try
to understand some future projections
for this company and what the valuation
of this company actually looks like
let's grow one billion dollars by 18.4
and 20 so in other words we're going
with the best case scenarios here like
this is a pretty bullish scenario that
would generate about 1.4 billion dollars
of revenue for AMC if we then subtract
out the 27 percent that usually goes of
total revenue that goes to the films
they split those revenues about 50 50 to
the film companies and we take out 65.4
percent for rent food and operating
expenses keep in mind the actual
operating expenses last quarter were
about 70.4 percent but because rent
should be pretty stable since you have a
bunch of empty seats I'm actually taking
a whole five percent off of that margin
I'm giving them an extra five percent
margin just because of the scale that
they could get since they're paying rent
whether the seats are full or not right
so I feel like I'm being generous here
I'm using the biggest numbers possible
on growth and the biggest growth or or a
larger margin here that would leave them
about a hundred and seven point eight
million dollars if we then subtract out
about 85 to 82 million dollars of debt
expense maybe even uh well I guess it'll
probably be like 85 to 90. somewhere
around there since it's kind of trending
up a little bit as they do refinances
and such that would leave about 15 to 20
million dollars in profit per quarter
for AMC in this potential best case
scenario which if you divide it'll just
say 20 million dollars of profit by the
about 1 billion shares outstanding which
I just want to show you so you don't
think I'm making these numbers up the
share is outstanding are right there
these keep in mind are the diluted share
counts so they consider AP and all that
right so now if we take about 15 million
in profit you'll be at about an EPS of
1.5 cents if you take 20 million it'll
be about 2 cents so you're somewhere
between one and a half to two cents of
eps which if we annualize that forget
seasonality for a moment just annualize
it times four gets you to about six
cents of earnings divided by the current
share price is seven dollars or take the
share price divided by that 7.64 cents
you're basically in an optimistic
scenario looking at a p e ratio of about
127 times
which for a company that's not a growth
company that's a startup and has really
good long-term prospects
the valuation is really high and you
have to make some really optimistic
scenarios to make this one work
again the assumptions are that box
office revenues and AMC would equally
benefit from that or growing at 18.4
plus 20 percent uh revenue is about 1.4
billion per quarter the last time by the
way they were around 1.3 billion dollars
before the pandemic was 2019.
and they actually lost money like their
margin was less than two percent except
I'm assuming a 7.55 margin in this
generous scenario
I don't know like let's let's try to be
positive here but this is very very
risky if you now add to the fact that
ape is failing because they're trying to
sell it but they did it too late like
the idea to rip people off and pay off
the debt was there but they failed at it
it's just
just not looking good that's all I got
to say that's it that's it look is it
possible that if the stock market
rallies going into CPI or into 2023 as
inflation comes down is it possible that
the stock meme rallies and risk rallies
absolutely is it a good fundamental play
I'll leave it up to you
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