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Amazon Bailing out AMC | AMC & APE Moon vs Bankruptcy

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hey everyone meet Kevin here I think

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it's time to have an honest discussion

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about AMC in this video we're going to

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talk about how much ape AMC has sold

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we're going to do some projections to

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try to understand the AMC valuation

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we'll talk about what Amazon just

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announced and how much that could move

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the box office from a fundamentals point

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of view

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now look I've been a little aggressive

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about uh ape and I've mostly been

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aggressive about ape and AMC because I

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kind of thought that ape was a rip-off

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and was going to hurt a lot of people so

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I sold my own ape shares

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and kind of told everyone it'd probably

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be a good idea to do that as well and I

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want you to see the passion in that

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video clip which I'll show you right

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here let's make this very very clear ape

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is a ploy it is a ploy to hope that Meme

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stock Traders pump up ape stock to the

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moon so that way there's a sustained

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Market AMC can dump shares raise lots of

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money and pay off their debt and again

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if you want a free nft to Showcase how

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stupid it is to hold your ape shares

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make sure to go to the AMC investor

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connect website and get your free nft

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because let me tell you ape Shares are

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going to be worth as much as that nft is

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going to be worth

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zero in six to 12 months I expect to

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ticker symbol 8 will be worth one dollar

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or less that would be an 86 percent

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decline from today and it'll be

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worthless and delisted soon after that

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the hope is that AFC will have paid off

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all of their debt before ape becomes

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worthless but until 8 becomes worthless

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AMC will continue to use it as a free

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money printer and this is a brilliant

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farce so I got a lot of hate from the

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AMC Community for this I was called a

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shill a sellout a suit yet I sold my AP

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shares at over eight dollars and now

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it's trading for

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1.21 cents we're almost at the one

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dollar that I predicted and I'm not

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trying to Pat myself on the back I'm

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just trying to help people see a red

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flag when I see it

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and people got mad at me for selling in

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January

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in hindsight I wish I never got back in

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right because I was right about selling

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and so when I see something fundamental

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I'm not suggesting you copy me exactly

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or do exactly what I say all I would say

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is hey let's have a reasonable dialogue

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and try to understand what's actually

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going on

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with that said let's talk about

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AMC

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the movie theater and let's talk about

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this Amazon deal that just came out so

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we're gonna incorporate these two things

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first in the last earnings Adam Aaron

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suggested that hey you know what we've

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had a soft box office quarter and so

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revenue is declined sequentially that

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means quarter over quarter okay uh In

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fairness they did and if you put the

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quarter over quarter numbers in red on

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the left you'd actually be able to

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properly compare the quarter over

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quarter numbers see we don't really want

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to compare to uh 2021 because people

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weren't going to movie theaters as much

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we kind of want to compare quarter to

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quarter and maybe even back to 2019.

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back in 2019 we were doing around 1 to

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1.3 billion dollars of Revenue and in Q2

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it looked like we were kind of going

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back in that direction at about 1.16

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billion dollars of Revenue however

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quarter of a recorder those revenues

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slipped in total 17 and you can see how

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the categories have declined here other

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theater Revenue down 24. other revenues

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of course come from Those ads that you

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see before a movie plays and things like

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gift cards okay then we saw operating

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expenses stable in Q2 which is good we

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really don't want to see these explode

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because that would mean employee costs

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are going up right and then Q2 they were

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at 402.2 and in Q3 they were again

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stable 400.6 okay good so stable

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operating the industry just shrunk a

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little bit that's not necessarily AMC's

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fault that's just okay a bad box office

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quarter the biggest problem with AMC

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though is of course over here corporate

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borrowings corporate borrowings went up

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with the expense went up by about five

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million dollars as interest rates are

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increasing and AMC refinanced some of

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its debt presumably presumably at a

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higher interest rate leading to this

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higher interest expense in the quarter

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rising from 80 million dollars to 85.1

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the operating loss if you just consider

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operations uh was only 16.1 million

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dollars but then when you take out other

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costs and depreciation and of course

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interest you get to a total loss of 226

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million dollars and if you want to know

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what kind of cash burn that is in terms

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of cash flows since obviously

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depreciation isn't an actual cash

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expense cash burn is sitting at

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179.2 million dollars which is a little

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bit of a problem given that right now

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AMC has

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684.6 million dollars so how do we

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reconcile all of this and if you want to

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know the refinance information that's

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actually sitting right here they

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refinanced a 471 million dollar loan at

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12.75 that by the way is why yes your

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interest expense is rising so you've got

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a company in an industry that is

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somewhat shrinking you don't actually

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have a lot of cash operating expenses

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are are stable and your interest expense

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is rising at 85 million per quarter you

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actually don't have a lot of runway in

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fact if we do some quick math we can see

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with 684.6 million dollars of cash

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assuming they get to a break even

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without touching their credit lines they

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have two years of cash and then they're

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out of cash then they have to start

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borrowing again

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uh if you don't go break even and you

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keep having these negative nearly 200

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million dollar quarters you'll be out of

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cash at AMC in three months and then

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unfortunately it's either borrow more

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increasing that uh that corporate debt

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expense or it's go bankrupt but we have

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to talk about this thing called ape ape

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are the

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AMC preferred Equity shares uh I got a

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lot of heat for talking about these ape

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shares basically being a setup uh and a

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tool for AMC to basically just

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give the AMC Apes that is retail

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investors something to be excited about

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something to go to the moon for

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something to go fight for

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only to turn around and dump those

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shares on that retail audience using the

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money they raise there to pay off the

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debt at AMC now I personally actually

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thought this was a pretty creative Ploy

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because if they could rip off retail

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investors at least they would be able to

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pay off their debt and if they paid off

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their debt they could make sure that the

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30 000 people who work at AMC don't go

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jobless if the company goes bankrupt

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unfortunately the company hasn't done a

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really good job at ripping people off I

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hate to say that because the stock has

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plummeted as I unfortunately predicted

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the stock has plummeted from where I

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sold it in the Eight dollar range all

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the way to as we see here a dollar and

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21 cents but what bothers me the most is

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that this stock this is the weekly chart

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by the way let's zoom out to the day

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chart here so you can see this a little

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more you could see with every one of

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these ticks representing a day they this

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company AMC had plenty of days to dump

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shares all over here look at that you

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had almost all of all you had you had 30

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days here 30 days that you could have

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sold this stock for over five dollars

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over five dollars they could have sold

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the stock for and dumped on retail and

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what did they decide to do instead

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well they didn't

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instead they decided to just sell 14.9

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million shares raising only 36.4 million

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dollars which is a drop in the bucket

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relative to the debt they have 36.4

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million dollars doesn't even pay for two

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weeks of Interest

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it's bad and if you divide these two it

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means as of on November 8th they've been

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selling at a

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2.44 average now the Stock's only worth

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a buck 21. so they have to sell twice as

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many shares

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just to raise more money and I think

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they're starting to panic because you

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even see that today which is really

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weird today AMC stock actually Rose

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4.3 percent but ape stock which usually

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moves in conjunction with AMC stock

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fell four percent that's really weird

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and look at this massive volume boost

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all of a sudden you went from an average

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of 13 to 20 million shares traded all

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the way to 46 million shares that's a

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difference of about 25 million shares

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which In fairness if they sold if this

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was AMC selling they potentially raised

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another congratulations two weeks worth

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of Interest 30 million dollars except

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they pushed the stock more into the

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abyss that's the ape shares now I expect

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ape to be milk to dry and basically

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become completely worthless this is what

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I've been saying for a while now but

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sometimes people get mad at me when I

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talk about fundamentals so what am I

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going to do well no I'm not going to

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pitch you my program on fundamental

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analysis stocks and psychology of money

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zero to millionaire real estate

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investing with a 60 off Black Friday

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coupon code which comes up in a couple

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days but instead I'm gonna talk dirty to

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you and give you some more fundamental

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analysis

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Amazon announced today that they plan to

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invest one billion dollars to produce 12

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to 15 feature films a year that they

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would air in cinemas

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the box office according to Bloomberg

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intelligence is expected to grow by 18.4

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percent in 2023 and could go up by

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another 15 to 20 percent because of

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Amazon

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that's because in 2022 we are uh sitting

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at about 1 or 7.6 billion dollars of a

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box office that'll go up to hopefully 9

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billion in 2023 and maybe even another

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15 to 20 on top of that if this uh AMC

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uh plan comes to fruition in 2023 so

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what do we want to do well let's take

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Amazon or um Amazon let's take AMC's

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revenue and let's just average out Q2

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and Q3 and let's take about a billion

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dollars of Revenue just to make math

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easy let's just say that's about your

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average quarterly Revenue let's now try

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to understand some future projections

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for this company and what the valuation

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of this company actually looks like

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let's grow one billion dollars by 18.4

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and 20 so in other words we're going

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with the best case scenarios here like

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this is a pretty bullish scenario that

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would generate about 1.4 billion dollars

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of revenue for AMC if we then subtract

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out the 27 percent that usually goes of

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total revenue that goes to the films

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they split those revenues about 50 50 to

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the film companies and we take out 65.4

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percent for rent food and operating

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expenses keep in mind the actual

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operating expenses last quarter were

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about 70.4 percent but because rent

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should be pretty stable since you have a

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bunch of empty seats I'm actually taking

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a whole five percent off of that margin

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I'm giving them an extra five percent

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margin just because of the scale that

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they could get since they're paying rent

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whether the seats are full or not right

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so I feel like I'm being generous here

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I'm using the biggest numbers possible

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on growth and the biggest growth or or a

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larger margin here that would leave them

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about a hundred and seven point eight

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million dollars if we then subtract out

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about 85 to 82 million dollars of debt

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expense maybe even uh well I guess it'll

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probably be like 85 to 90. somewhere

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around there since it's kind of trending

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up a little bit as they do refinances

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and such that would leave about 15 to 20

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million dollars in profit per quarter

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for AMC in this potential best case

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scenario which if you divide it'll just

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say 20 million dollars of profit by the

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about 1 billion shares outstanding which

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I just want to show you so you don't

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think I'm making these numbers up the

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share is outstanding are right there

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these keep in mind are the diluted share

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counts so they consider AP and all that

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right so now if we take about 15 million

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in profit you'll be at about an EPS of

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1.5 cents if you take 20 million it'll

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be about 2 cents so you're somewhere

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between one and a half to two cents of

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eps which if we annualize that forget

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seasonality for a moment just annualize

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it times four gets you to about six

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cents of earnings divided by the current

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share price is seven dollars or take the

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share price divided by that 7.64 cents

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you're basically in an optimistic

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scenario looking at a p e ratio of about

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127 times

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which for a company that's not a growth

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company that's a startup and has really

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good long-term prospects

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the valuation is really high and you

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have to make some really optimistic

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scenarios to make this one work

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again the assumptions are that box

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office revenues and AMC would equally

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benefit from that or growing at 18.4

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plus 20 percent uh revenue is about 1.4

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billion per quarter the last time by the

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way they were around 1.3 billion dollars

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before the pandemic was 2019.

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and they actually lost money like their

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margin was less than two percent except

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I'm assuming a 7.55 margin in this

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generous scenario

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I don't know like let's let's try to be

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positive here but this is very very

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risky if you now add to the fact that

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ape is failing because they're trying to

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sell it but they did it too late like

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the idea to rip people off and pay off

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the debt was there but they failed at it

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it's just

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just not looking good that's all I got

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to say that's it that's it look is it

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possible that if the stock market

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rallies going into CPI or into 2023 as

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inflation comes down is it possible that

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the stock meme rallies and risk rallies

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absolutely is it a good fundamental play

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I'll leave it up to you

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