Get READY: The Fed's Rug Tomorrow.
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J Pal is going to rug us tomorrow or
not? Well, that's what we're going to
talk about in today's segment on the
Federal Reserve.
It's Schumer Siesta coupon code
expiration eve. That's right. [music]
The Schumer Siesta coupon code finally
expires tomorrow for the M Kevin Alpha
Report. But for right now, we're going
to talk scenarios and we're going to
build them out together. So, Federal
Reserve scenarios, here's the game plan.
Okay, so what what is expected? What is
expected? We always want to start with
this is this like the base case. This is
what the market expects. Okay. So the
market expectation you know we'll go
green check mark here. We are expecting
with a 96.7%
probability that uh we will get a - 255
BP cut and we are widely expecting the
vacuum cleaner to pause. Okay. Why do we
expect the vacuum cleaner to get caused
and what the heck is that? That's
basically the end of QT. This is the end
of an era. QT began in March of 2022. It
has been 3 and a half years of
quantitative tightening and the end of
QT, which is the Federal Reserve selling
bonds. Mind you, when they're selling
bonds, they're lowering the value of
bonds, right? So, this has the impact of
lowers uh uh value of bonds when they
sell bonds, right? because there's more
supply. When they stop doing that, they
could potentially lead market rates to
actually come down because they're
selling fewer bonds. We don't have to
think about the mechanics of that. Just
think bottom line,
Fed rate down and hopefully market rates
down. However,
usually the market already prices that
in uh and so we're probably around 4% on
the 10-year Treasury as just a stable
here's where we sit if we get a base
case from the Fed tomorrow. Nothing
freaky, nothing scary. What do we get?
Probably honestly still sitting around
4%. you know, if we get the end to QT
because QT isn't entirely priced. I
would argue um maybe 70% priced in uh
for QT, maybe we end up getting like a
39
maybe on the 10. Do we expect some kind
of big cratering on the 10-year?
Probably not. Uh broadly, this is the
base case. This is what's expected. And
if we get this expectation, it should be
modestly bullish. Uh, so I'd call it
modestly bullish. It's it's nothing
scary. Uh, it's not scary. It's it's
nothing that makes us really concerned.
Now, what should be concerning to you?
Concerning to you, not markets. Okay?
Because you know that markets can be
irrational. We can make a lot of money
in markets. We can, you know, markets
can skyrocket, but we can also know that
there are bottom line issues in the
markets, right? The most concerning
thing that you want to pay attention to
tomorrow uh is twofold. So number one,
you want to pay attention to any talk
about um uh private credit uh uh being
uh uh how should I call it systematic or
a systematic risk. So this would be
systemwide rather than just uh
idiosyncratic. That's going to be your
big oopsy dupsy. You don't want to hear
any of that. I don't expect you're going
to see Powell say anything negative
about this. Uh so I would say uh expect
Powell to sweep this under the rug,
right? Keep the cockroaches where they
belong, so to speak. Now, previously we
have him heard we've had him talk about
the normalization
of the beverage curve uh may be
beginning. Okay, this this is
this is complicated, but uh we talked
about this a little bit this morning in
the alpha report. Uh you know, mind you,
we do that every morning before the
market opens up. Not only to get sort of
my next 10 stocks to buy for the next 10
years, but sort of my take on, you know,
where's the market going to go in the
day? Like, is this the day you go call
options or, you know, do we sit out Fed
jitters and kind of just wait and see?
You know, those are the things that I
kind of plan for in the day. uh but in
in the morning report what we touched on
is the first time I've talked about it
is the steepness of the beverage curve.
Now the steepness of this it's a little
complicated. I'm going to keep it nice
and short. But basically if Powell talks
about the steepness that's all I want
you to think. If he talks steepness I
want you to think bullish. Okay? If
Powell talks steepness
think bullish. basically uh steep. If he
references the steepness of the curve, I
it's just a fancy way of saying new
normal for the labor market, right? Uh
if uh if he downplays
uh the steepness and says curve should
normalize, that's bad, right? Because it
means that unemployment recession might
be getting closer. Now, obviously, we've
been worried about the unemployment
market uh in the labor market for about
a year now. You know, we weren't worried
about the labor market in 2022. We had a
crapload of layoffs in 2022. But
remember what happened in 2022. The jobs
market was so freaking tight, YOU
COULDN'T HIRE ANYONE. You couldn't find
anyone in 2022. So when Amazon fired
28,000 people in 2022, guess what all
the people did who got fired? They went
AND GOT A BETTER JOB. THEY WENT AND GOT
MORE money somewhere else, [laughter]
you know? So like totally different jobs
market. Today we're firing 14,000 or up
to 30,000, which is just a way for them
to sort of like damp down head tamp like
tamp down headlines a little bit. Uh now
they're going to fire up to 30,000
people. That's more firing than what we
saw in uh 2022. And it's a horrible time
to get fired, mind you. Like I was
talking to Jack yesterday. I'm like,
"Bro, imagine you're an accountant and
and you got fired along with 30 other
thousand people and now you got to go
find an accounting job. This sucks,
especially in the days of AI." And he's
like, "Dad,
this sounds terrible, but what's an
accountant?" [laughter] And I'm like,
"Okay, son. have you ever heard of a
credit card? And then I start teaching
him about debits and credits and he's
like, "Dad, I'm 10." [laughter] Anyway,
so um we were actually doing that
yesterday though. This is what happens
at midnight at the Meet Kevin household.
You start talking about accounting. But
anyway, any hey, you know what? Put him
right to sleep. It worked out great. So
anyway, um the the the thing to think
about is like now
it's a lot tougher of a labor market if
you get fired. And so it's not just
30,000 at Amazon. It's not just the
thousand at Target or or 1500 at Target
or the thousand at Paramount. But also
UPS is bragging about how they laid off
like 35,000 workers in the last 9
months. Okay. 35 over the last 9 months.
That's like 3.8,000 workers every single
month gone. Ara
a thousands of livelihoods. Man, it's
scary. And it's just it's like if it
were a 2022 market, fine. Like just go
get another job, you'll be okay. But
it's not, man. I mean, you've literally
got Walmart bragging about how they want
to keep uh their jobs, their hiring
flat, basically uh for the next 3 years.
So Walmart wants to grow revenues and
not hire for the next three years.
That's scary. Goldman Sachs says, "Yeah,
we don't want to hire at all for the
next, you know, whatever years it is."
Uh, and then on top of that, you've got
um I think I think they said one or two
years at Goldman Sachs. You've got other
companies also reporting that, yeah, no,
we're just we're just not going to hire
right now. So that's why I say when it
comes to the Federal Reserve, if he
downplays steepness of the curve, it's
good. If he says the curve should
normalize, it's bad. Because the curve
normalizing with how low vacancies are
right now, bottom line, means the
unemployment rate's going to skyrocket.
If he's like, well, you know, the
curve's just steeper today. This is a
new normal. It's potentially a sign the
Fed's just going to be slow and too
late. They're kind of doing the usual
like, h everything's fine. The economy
is fine. Things are bullish. you know,
it's just a new normal. It probably
means they're going to be too late, but
it it's just it creates no shock now,
you know, and that's in contrast to what
they could do in another scenario, which
let's talk about the other scenarios.
So, in another scenario, the Federal
Reserve could also come out hawkish. The
most hawkish thing that I think we would
get tomorrow would be 25 bips because
that's basically priced in. I don't
think they're going to shock us. I don't
think we're going to we're not going to
get zero. We're not going to get a hike.
It's just they're not going to go for a
rug pull on the market. You've got too
much funding stress. So, too much
funding stress to see zero or a hike.
Uh, you know, that's that's unl
I I I would put this at like, you know,
1% chance. Okay. Especially with that
last CPI report we got, like 1% chance.
So, hawkish would be 25 BP and no QT
end. I don't really see this happening,
but this would uh in my opinion, you
know, yields up and uh stocks down. Uh I
put this at like a, you know, 10% chance
of happening. We're probably going to be
over here uh at uh this sort of base
case scenario is probably closer to like
70%. Uh honestly, probably closer to
like
I'll go let's see 10. Yeah, I'll go 75%.
You know what there's actually more of a
chance of and I would put this at like a
15% chance is actually the bearish. So
the bearish 50 I this is not mega likely
but it's possible. The bearish 50. So
the bearish 50. This would be a bearish
shock. Uh I think there's a you know a
15% chance of this. So, I think it's
unlikely, but this would basically be
like, oh, SH9T,
what does the Fed see that they need to
rush to get ahead of, right? That's how
the market's going to react to this. And
that would also be, you know, like a
sellown because even though it comes
across as bullish, like, oh, wow, that's
great. Like, cool, we got 50 of cuts, it
would be somewhat shocking. You know, I
had a course member ask me this morning,
I go, they're like, hey, Kevin,
congratulations. you guys, you know, you
raised almost what I think we're at half
a million dollars now raised uh for
house hack in in just the last 40 hours
which is crazy. Uh I think that's in
part because and I know people they you
know I wear the reinvest shirt so I
always like to be clear like the
reinvest is the new doing business as
for house hack. Uh so we put a little
note on the website for that as well.
But I think people are looking they're
like wow you guys are going to have this
wedge AI and you've got your your AI
time frames on your website and that you
could go see it if you want at
reinvest.co. This video is not a
solicitation. Read the offering
circular. Right. Uh but anyway, our
renovation AI, like we've got some
really cool things coming. We're really
excited. Like every day I'm just like
I'm giddy about this and I'm working
with the AI team like we should do this,
we should do this. And and you're like
they got to keep me reigned in because
there are so many things that I want to
do. Uh and we're going to look at a Nick
T article here in just a moment as well.
But they're like, "Hey Kevin, like what
is uh uh you know, what is the potential
of uh us ending the funding round sooner
and reinvested?" go. Look, I I never I'm
I'm the no pressure guy, okay? I was the
branded meet Kevin, no pressure agent,
and I never want anybody ever to feel
pressure to invest. And it's very
important to know that there's never
pressure to invest. I really don't think
the Fed's going to go like double cut
tomorrow. Obviously, if the Fed comes
out and they do something crazy like,
"Oh, we're going to cut 100 basis points
because we're panicking." Obviously, uh
it's going to make sense to talk to the
board and no longer do a 5%, you know,
yield on on our on our round, uh where
you get 100% of the upside of the stock
plus a 5% yield, obviously, right?
Because like if rates tank, like why
would we do that? You just you don't
have to compete with that. Like I think
5% already is pretty good when money
markets are yielding you like 375 and
that's like you're getting 5% plus the
upside in the stock which I think is you
know valued at a real estate valuation
uh and and has no valuation premium for
AI. You know what I saw yesterday and
we're going to look at this article here
but I saw this yesterday and I and I
like part of me like wanted to vomit but
the other part of me is like this is
great. Uh but listen to this. Look at
this. You can't make this up. Seoia
Capital leads $750
million
round for a startup that quote uses AI
to create slide decks. It's right here
in green. It uses AI to create slide
decks. Bro, Grock and GPT already do
that. How do you possibly How do you
possibly get a $750 million startup for
for basically a GPT rapper? Like this is
AI. So in my opinion, there are
two AIs. There's like first of all, you
know, you got your your generative AIs
that are actually good. Like whether
it's Grock or it's uh GPT or whatever,
right? Like you know, Claude, Anthropic,
whatever. Like they're good. They're
all, you know, have their strengths and
similarities. Uh but they're good. And
then there are all the startups that
basically just ride on the coattails of
those companies. And then I'm like, "Oh,
you guys aren't even doing anything
unique. There's what's proprietary about
this?" And then what almost a billion
dollar valuations is like this is
stupid. Whatever. Uh like we have
proprietary MLS at House Hack and we
keep training more. [laughter] We're
like, "All right, now we need an ML for
this." I don't want to get too detailed
into, you know, the MLS we have because
there's there's some of our uh, you
know, proprietary edge uh, in in how we
structure our real estate data. Uh, but
it's it's really fun and I study, you
know, AI on a daily basis. I love it. I
got my AI book right here. But, um, one
of them at least. Uh, so, uh, what's
really interesting about this whole Fed
thing is I don't think we're going to
get, that's going back to the Fed here.
I don't think we're going to get some
kind of crazy like, you know, 50 BP or
shock cut, right? So, here's Nick Te's
article and uh Nick T's take here is
that the Federal Reserve uh officials
have uh a suddenly pressing decision, a
decision when they beat meet this week
that has nothing to do with the interest
rate cut. It is whether to stop
shrinking the uh portfolio
at this meeting or wait until the end of
the year. Right? So that unfortunately
is a risk tomorrow that we end up
getting uh let's go back to this there
is a chance you know within this you
know so 30% chance no QT end within that
75% base case where we get the 25
there's a 30% chance we don't end up
ending QT right not ending QT not great
for bonds you know people are looking
forward to this maybe a little bearish
but it's this is it's mostly bullish.
It's going to come down to the wording.
I even don't even like I don't even
really think markets are going to care
about the normalization of the beverage
curve versus a steeper curve here.
Again, remember if you hear steepness,
think bullish because it just means him
saying new normal. It's bullish for now.
It could also just be blind to history,
right? Uh and if you hear normalization,
it's bad because of the layoffs. Fine.
But going back to the Nick T piece here,
what do we have here? As recently as two
weeks ago, the Fed seemed on track for a
year-end decision. Uh, however, Powell
in a rare speech devoted primarily to
technical, monetary, plumbing dynamics,
said the central bank could approach the
point in the coming months where it
needed to end QT. Uh, and that's really
because of that pressure that we're
seeing in sofur, which is the secured
overnight funding rate. And so, the
debate is going to be separate from what
we're seeing uh, regarding interest
rates. Here are the Federal Reserve
assets. You can actually see they're
basically back to COVID levels. Like
right before CO Well, actually, no,
that's not true because technically the
CO printing started over here. They're
just right after CO we just kept
printing printing printing printing
printing printing for a very long time.
This is probably where the inflation
came from. Like this was the emergency
response and this was probably just the
continuous printing that led to all the
inflation right here. That's where they
overdid it. So the overdid it portion is
gone. But the COVID response is still
built in the system. That'll probably
just stay there forever. But the Federal
Reserve doesn't want the balance sheet
so big because uh supplying trillions of
dollars of interest bearing reserves to
the bank carries political costs such as
paying larger amounts of interest. Uh
but they want to keep short-term rates
under control, blah blah blah. None of
this really matters. It's just basically
as a way of saying as we saw yesterday,
we've started to see some volatility in
the spreads on the overnight uh uh
yields. Now, I always kind of like
looking just to see what some of the
comments are over here. So, let's just
go to like most liked over here. When
the Fed purchases securities, it creates
reserves, electronic cash that the bank
holds. This is basically, yeah, printing
money to us normal folks, creating value
out of thin air. So, technically, and I
always get a comment out of this every
time I say this, this is it correct and
it's not correct. The Fed doesn't
actually print money. the Treasury
prints money, but the Federal Reserve
changes a number on a spreadsheet that
creates essentially debt for the the
government out of thin air. Uh and and
the Federal Reserve uh it and then they
print the money, right? So, I always
think that's very funny. Decentralize
first. The economic sophistry of modern
monetary theory must be revealed. You
know, how many people I feel like just
write comments now with AI? Uh it is
just like I wonder how much of the
internet is just dead these days. Like
who actually writes their own comments
anymore? I know you folks do, but you
folks are smart. Uh somebody says,
"Please bring back the soundboard. Just
close the door. Close the door."
>> So anyway, uh look, that's the preview.
Now, what do we actually think that's
going to do for Marcus? Okay, look, I'm
going to be clear about this. This
morning in the alpha report, this is a
free sample. Okay, this morning in the
alpha report, I said, "Folks,
today is not a day for puts.
Today is probably not a day for calls
either, though. I think the Q's sit 6:30
as a floor and hang out." And it's
really freaking scary because it's on
the dot at 6:30 right now. And I said
this in the pre-market. You can like you
could fact check this. If you go back
and watch all my live streams going back
to like 2018 or or there. And you go
back into the live stream this morning.
It's like, yeah,
Kevin wasn't mega bullish today, but he
also said no puts. He I literally said,
you know, there are some days if you're
trading the cues, there are some days
you just take off. And today might be
one of those days. Now, like why would I
say that? Because that is isn't that
boring? No. I actually think, you know,
obviously I can't give you personalized
advice, but I think it's really good
perspective. Why do I think it's good
perspective? Because you go into the Fed
meeting, bro. This is so normal. Like,
right before Fed meeting and then China
on Thursday, come on, man. Of course,
the market's going alltime highs, you
know, maybe I'm just going to kind of
chill out and wait just a little bit.
Come on. Uh so like
hey you know if you could you come up
with if you're happy with your own
strategies whether or your own
fundamental analysis if you're even
doing fundamental analysis great. Uh if
you want if you want to see the
fundamental analysis that we're doing uh
in and the technical analysis uh every
day uh before the market opens up almost
every day. Uh, you know, sometimes I get
sick. Uh, I actually take a sick day
calling my boss, but that happens very,
very, very rarely a handful of times a
year. Then, uh, and I still try to get
the alpha report out even if I can't go
live. But, uh, yeah, you know, come join
us over there in the alpha report. Use
that coupon code humor siesta. We are,
uh, we're going to expire that tomorrow
uh, evening and, uh, and then the price
will go up. So, we'd love to see you
there. Let me see what um, uh, what what
some of you have uh, in the chat here
uh, this morning. Somebody writes,
"Kevin, my strategy is called taco."
Yeah, that's why I sit at like an 8.9 to
nine out of 10 on the taco scale.
Totally agree, man. The taco scale is is
something else. Uh so, uh okay, let's
see here. Then we've got uh bring back
the sound. Oh, we got we got the
soundboard for you.
>> Nice to have you.
>> So, you want to talk about love making,
right?
How many of your kids did you have to
lay off due to AI? You know, I'm
actually hiring. [laughter]
All of them are hired. They're great.
That we're we call them the Magnificent
Seven. The Magnificent Seven children.
You know, sometimes we put a little more
money into the one of the Mag Sevens and
a little more into the other, but we
always try to balance out our allocation
to the Mag Seven. [laughter]
All right, there's my take on the Fed.
>> Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
>> Kevin Pra there, financial [music]
analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always
great to get your take.
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