The Economic Warning from Delta Earnings $DAL
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Delta earnings let's review what's going
on with Delta earnings and what kind of
potential leading indicator this could
have for the economy keep in mind myself
and many of us in the courses on
building your wealth we've been watching
inflation through earnings
in the last really year and one of the
things that we've noticed is this
massive inflection point it's more than
a year actually it's more like 18 months
we noticed in and I want you to pay
attention to this when it comes to
earnings so I'm saying it before we get
to Disney earnings on purpose or sorry
Delta earnings here on purpose
in q1
2022 January we noticed massive
inflation every single company was
bragging about having pricing power and
I'm like look if everybody's saying they
got a massive PP not everybody's got a
massive PV like Master PP comes from
massive brand value and the people's
willingness to buy a product in almost
any circumstances no matter how hard
that was the case in January 2022
everybody was buying everything still
and inflation was very very rampant over
the last six months we've seen that
almost evaporate breaking down Q4 q1
earnings for example given that Q2 were
just now starting breaking down Q4 and
q1 by going through the actual
fundamentals and looking at what
companies are doing with their cash with
their debt with their inventories with
their revenues with their net income and
what they're saying about inflation and
earnings calls is a really really good
in my opinion leading indicator of
what's happening with inflation and
everything that we've been reading over
the past six months has made it very
clear that the CPI numbers we got
yesterday are what we would expect
it's because earnings are really good at
forecasting this kind of stuff in my
opinion so anyway as a result we're
going to look at Delta I just want you
to be aware that the more we look at
these companies the the more insight uh
we broadly glean and it's not going to
be one company here there that generally
helps that's a broad that sort of
average that Collective movement of
everything so with that said let's take
a quick look here at Delta
so the first thing that I always like to
do when I do these earnings at least
what we do when we do these earnings
with course members is uh we go straight
to uh balance sheets cash flow
statements uh and uh and of course the
income statement before we get to any
kind of commentary uh so cash flows at
Delta have more than 2x over here you
can see we're at about 1.8 billion in uh
well net income rather uh cash flows
themselves are slightly up uh we can see
that here net cash provided by operating
activity so our net income rather let me
State this correctly is up about 2x in a
bit we've got a little bit of a decline
here in air traffic liability in my
opinion this is a sign of potentially uh
Delta becoming
a little bit more organized with with
their cash to where they're able to
catch up on some of their bills payable
air traffic liability is usually when
you go land at an airport you have to
pay Landing fees and support service
fees so those are not just the landing
fees but then of course you have
cleaning fees you have fuel dump fees uh
or sorry fuel fill fees uh toilet dump
fees rather uh and all the other Support
Services you get from an airport
oftentimes get thrown together under air
traffic liability you've got a change in
profit sharing a big massive increase
over here uh what else we have let's
look at net cash from investing we've
got plant property and Equipment sitting
somewhere around one four billion so
many more Investments coming in here
from the airline industry and this might
be one of the reasons we uh
actually have a bit of a leading
indicator of of
come not necessarily for inflation of of
of general aviation inflation but what
you generally find in my opinion is
when you have the airlines spending
massive amounts of money on more planes
you're in a really great situation
potentially for
aerospace companies those are going to
be your boeings your Airbus uh your
Embraer mostly because if there's one
place that still has inflation in my
opinion it's Aerospace that is a place
where you're still fraught with
shortages you're still waiting two years
for planes these Airlines keep buying
more and more planes the regional planes
are usually embroiders the longer
distance planes are usually Airbus and
Boeing and these companies or companies
that are still dealing with rapid
inflation and so I really like looking
at the airlines for that because I want
to see inflation at some point roll over
and the the air business like the
Aerospace business but boy we haven't
been anywhere close to seeing that
rollover yet uh payments on damp look at
this they're really paying down their
obligations here and I like seeing this
because the airlines have been so
indebted so not only are we paying down
our air traffic liabilities much more
than we were last year at this time in
fact last year at this time they were
growing although that could also have
been because there were fewer flights
compared to now then you've got payments
on debt finally twice as much pay down
now as you previously have that's
fantastic so this this already looks
much much stronger let's look at what
we've got over here in ticket Revenue so
we've got about an 18 increase in ticket
for for main cabin Revenue 25 increase
in premium products you are getting a
lot of premiumization of the airlines as
well I personally wonder how that'll
show up in inflation because CPI
generally compares the same pricing for
the same product or service every year
so they'll make adjustments for okay is
this a granny smith apple or is this a
Gala apple and their goal is to try to
minimize substitutions of course when
they need to they make substitutions
point of that is you're generally not
going to see the Bureau of Labor
Statistics take a uh main cabin seat and
replace it with like a first class seat
but you might compare first class to
first class on Delta and main cabin in
main cabin on Delta uh so but seeing
more of a revenue bump in premium
products is not a surprise for me at
Delta mostly because a lot of companies
are really trying to focus on
giving more of these or having more
first class availability in fact some of
the newer plans are being considered as
having substantially larger first-class
areas than main cabin areas because
people are just willing to pay more now
whether it's because the higher income
individuals or middle to Upper income
individuals just have more money or it's
because people are just wanting to pay
for more of an experience or it's
because people are tired of Airlines
getting so crammed and exhausting that
they'll pay they'll gladly pay for a
little bit of a better experience who
knows 21 increase 21 increase in loyalty
travelty Awards we've got uh their their
Refinery business so they actually also
have stakes in in oil and for finding
the Airlines use this as hedging I
always find that very interesting
although Refinery revenue is down 36
percent it's actually very good usually
when oil prices are down because
kerosene prices are down it's a huge
line item for these air Airlines so this
is more of a headline inflation figure
to see fuel costs come down
substantially so we like to see that
let's jump on over to the main page and
see what kind of items they're
specifically paying attention to so uh
they're saying Delta is delivering to
customers with strong operational
performance and Best in Class service
during the busy summer period with this
performance we generated record revenue
and profitability in June our people are
the best Professionals in the industry
proud to recognize their achievements
we've got 666 million in the first half
towards next year's profit sharing
consumer demand for travel remains
robust against this constructive
backdrop we are increasing our 2023
earnings guidance to six to seven
dollars per share reiterating our
recently updated Outlook
of three billion dollars of free cash
flow for the Year this is a this is
pretty strong it's a pretty strong
report the CEO was uh
has said in at some Point here either in
this document or I was reading about
this a little bit before it went live
that they are expecting to be in the
middle Innings of travel demand which is
quite interesting because some folks
were thinking that we might end up
getting a rollover on travel demand but
it just seems like it keeps going
Delta's got 12 aircraft scheduled for
delivery in 2027 and eight uh they're
looking for 12 more air buses actually
they're trying to pay down four billion
dollars in debt and they're really
accelerating their debt repayment this
is what they're announcing we saw that
on the cash flow statement as well
though you've got uh Delta passenger
Revenue at 13.2 Bill exceeding
expectations of 12.75 adjusted Revenue
coming in at 1261 exceeding the 14-4
you've got net at 1.72 Bill exceeding
the 1.5
expected and EPS of a midpoint sitting
at a 2.40 expected for Q3 adjusted the
market was only looking for
2.06 so these are really good numbers
here coming out versus expectations
let's look at some of the commentary on
demand and Outlook
and uh we'll get a lot more insight from
the earnings call as well but let's get
started here robust demand is continuing
in the September quarter where we expect
Revenue to be similar to the June
quarter up 11 and 14 compared to
September of quarter uh the September
quarter of 2022
unit Revenue strength continues so
really what's remarkable about this and
it's probably going to help contribute
to the market being at least somewhat
happy here is you've got more robust
spending from the consumer Which is less
recessionary this is a broad leading
indicator also of recession if we were
really heading into a recession we
shouldn't see a September quarter that
is as strong as the June quarter but in
addition to that we're seeing this
coupled with less inflation less
inflation I mean fuel costs down 34 uh
versus 2022 average fuel price of just
2.52 cents a gallon for kerosene jet
fuel that's amazing and listen to this
we expect in the September quarter
non-fuel costs to decline one to two one
to three percent so in other words no
recessionary indicate cater and even
more fuel
disinflation actually deflation quite
frankly remember disinflation is a lower
rate of growth deflation is is a decline
in inflation so more debt payoff less
recessionary indicator less inflationary
indicator couple this with what we've
gotten from CPI this is fantastic this
is a really good way to start off
earnings season I'm very excited about
this uh and even though I personally am
not a big fan of investing in the
airlines mostly because I'm I'm afraid
at how much debt these companies have uh
they they are turning this around looks
like we've got about I would say about
six billion dollars in cash and
short-term Investments looking at this
quickly I've only got about 30 seconds
left to talk about Delta here we've got
uh current debts sitting at oh boy
current debts backing off loyalty
programs and deferred revenues we've got
current dance sitting at about 25
billion dollars in current debts you've
got long-term debts here in excess of uh
at least 25 billion dollars again taking
out deferred revenues probably closer to
about 32 billion dollars massive amounts
of debt not extremely excited about this
but what I am excited about is you
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