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Hey everyone, me Kevin here. Oh boy,
what is going on in markets? And in this
video, not only am I going to tell you
what's going on in markets, but I'm also
going to give you a just very
transparent breakdown of my opinion and
my positioning so that way we could be
crystal clear about where I stand and
what commitments I'm willing to make for
the future. And in this video, I'm going
to give you a very clear commitment. And
if I'm wrong, I will dress up as a
clown. I accept the challenge. So
without further ado, let's give you a
quick breakdown. Look, here's the thing.
This morning we had Target earnings.
Okay, people are like, "Is this a canary
in the coal mine?" No. Okay, Target is
not a canary in the coal mine. Target is
a poorly run business that is making bad
business decisions. They've been
complaining about fulfillment in their
stores hurting their margins for online
deliveries since co and they're morons
because if they took more of a Walmart
style approach, guess what? They'd have
better freaking margins. If they just
invested into fulfillment
infrastructure, they'd be fine. So, no.
No. Is is Target uh a canary in the coal
mine? No. But what is a canary in the
coal mine? Is the 102 spread? Yes. Okay.
Old news. Today, we had the first
20-year bond auction since when? Well,
since the Moody's downgrade. Okay. It
came as a shocker because we got an over
five handle. And it's probably because
foreign buyers of US credit such as, you
know, even even banks in Hong Kong,
okay, they have requirements that they
invest in a certain percentage of AAA
rated bonds and a certain percentage of
lower credit rated bonds. So when
Moody's conducts a downgrade and there
goes our last AAA credit rating, there
is no justification for certain
institutions and banks around the
foreign government holding US debt
anymore. So yes, it exacerbates USD
dollarization. It exacerbates uh
anti-American exceptionalism. Okay. It's
unfortunate. I will never not betray
America though. I am always going to
betray America. People ask me, "Oh,
Kevin, is it time to invest in Japan?" I
don't know anything about Japan. Okay? I
just know about America. And here is my
commitment. First, I want you to know
about the past. This is very simple. I
was part of the problem. The reason we
have so much buy the dip today is in
part my fault. Yes, I'm taking credit
for that because in part because we even
have a buy the dip song that people made
over this because in March of 2020, I
took on a bunch of debt and went into
margin and bought a crapload of stocks
and made a lot of money buying the
freaking dip. Okay, buying the dip was
fantastic. That I was a 10 on the bareb
scale. Okay, bear bull scale is one,
sell everything, 10 buy everything and
margin up and leverage up, baby. I am
not a 10 right now. I am not a 10
because I'm highly concerned about
layoffs. Now, I'm going to make a
commitment. If we do not have a shock in
our economy by Halloween, I will dress
up as a clown for Halloween. This is
exactly the opposite as what I did in
2021. In 2021, I dressed up as Jerome
Powell and we handed out not only
full-size candy bars, but we handed out
free money. We literally threw it up in
the air say free money. Inflation is
transitory. You know, we really leaned
into the whole Jerome Powell and and
Janet Yellen money printer. And it was a
great Halloween. It was it was one of my
favorite Halloweens. But this year, if
we do not have a shock by Halloween, I
will have a clown show outside of my
house, full-size candy bars, and we will
have a circus, red nose, everything. And
the way we're going to measure whether
or not there was a shock, and you're
going to hold me to this, okay? The way
we're going to measure whether or not
there was a shock is TLT will be over
100 by
Halloween. Okay? If it is not, and I am
wrong, then we will confirm soft
landing and it's probably fair to be
more bullish because it means we
survived the tariff debacle uh and the
outcome of tariff warfare. See, a lot of
people today are like, Kevin, look,
tariffs did no damage. You know, uh you
were so negative on tariffs. Well, yeah,
cuz tariffs are economically stupid.
Okay? Anybody with an IQ greater than I
rock knows that the economic outcome of
tariffs are stupid. Now if we can
achieve better net positive benefits
through tariff negotiations then of
course sure you could argue that well
but you know the bad of tariffs was
offset by greater good. That's fine.
That does not change the fact that
tariffs are economically stupid. Okay
that is that is an economic fact. It
it's just a real it's very very simple.
When we get past that, we have to
remember that we're not going to see the
impact of tariff drama probably until
August. And this is why I think
Halloween is very very fair because the
longer we remain over the 210 and the
spreads uh on the 10-year uh and
two-year Treasury curve, the longer uh
unemployment uh in the nature of um uh
of our jolt data continues to decline,
job openings decline, hiring declines,
at some point likely driven by small to
medium businesses, they will crack under
the weight of high ter or or high
treasury yields. These treasury yields,
this Moody's downgrade, these higher
treasury yields, they are not damaging
today. They are damaging in the future
when small to mid-size businesses can no
longer refinance. People go bankrupt
because they can't make their payments
on their stupid buy now pay later
Chipotle anymore. Then they get
laid off on top of that and they really
can't pay off their buy now pay later
crap, which is still sustaining Walmart
and and Home Depot spending.
huge beneficiary by the way of the whole
CLA effect which whose losses have just
doubled because of you know consumer
delinquencies but more on that
separately. When all of this sort of
debt buildup and consumerism hits the
fan mostly likely due to a surge in
layoffs TLT will skyrocket. Now if it
doesn't happen by October and this is
where I make my commitment I will admit
wrong. Okay, we were right to buy the
dip in March of 2020. We were right when
we were saying buy the dip in 2018. We
were right about buying real estate. We
were right about where to buy real
estate, which is very important, the
whole COVID bubble with House Act. I've
been I've been screaming for years,
there's a COVID bubble and the markets
that are blowing up because of, you
know, COVID relocations will not last
and those markets will get hit heavily.
And sure enough, that's exactly what
happened. Uh when you look at um uh you
know the Austin Texas markets, what up
John? When you look at the Austin, Texas
markets or you look at uh uh you know
parts of Florida or whatever. Have a
good day. Uh this this was obvious. This
was predictable. We we knew that. And so
we were right about that. We were also
right about the Nike swoosh recovery uh
from uh from 2022 on. We literally had a
Nike swoosh recovery. Right now, in the
near term though, it feels like Evan is
taking a big L. And I just want to be
transparent about that because what if
if I can say I've been right in the
past, I also need to be able to tell you
transparently when and if I'm wrong. I
think it's too soon to say that I am
wrong that there is no shock coming and
that the soft landing is secured. It's
too soon to say that. If we get to
October and the tariffs have not as well
as the slowdown in the economy have not
led to a spike in layoffs as Jerome
Powell says the economy breaks to the
downside in the fact that it has to come
out with some sort of you know dramatic
rate cuts. If that does not happen by
October I will dress up as a clown and I
will take a fat L baby. I will admit
because you know what it's the right
damn thing to do. Now people, you know,
like very few people in the comment
section, they'll say things like, "Oh,
but Kevin, you're just being a
flip-flopper." No, I I would respond to
the data, you know, everything that I
gave. I mean, if people people were on
me during co, you go back to my videos
in April of 2020, I would do weekly
analysis of real estate trends in
certain markets because realtors would
send me data. Leave a comment down below
if you were one of those realtors.
They'd send me data in their markets and
I'm like, "Oh my gosh, like real
estate's about to boom. Real estate
freaking exploded in COVID. I bought 11
properties personally in 2022 and 2021
because I'm like this is about to take
off and there's a boom in the latter
half of 2021 and 2022. Okay, it's it's a
databased approach and and to me it's
basic but it doesn't prove out the very
next day. That's one of the hard things
is like we we you know we could look at
data and say okay here's the game plan
and then what happens is uh you know the
very next I'll give you an example.
Okay, so I say uh in my core, my last
Core Eve versus Palanteer video I think
is very on point. I talk about how the
financials of Core are actually really
really good right now and a lot of
people didn't realize that Nvidia was
bailing them out anytime they fell under
$40 per share. Uh now people see an
Nvidia stake disclosed and the thing has
like doubled. Okay, we've been talking
about call options and core for weeks
and the alpha report and the course
member live streams and everything. I
actually didn't think it was going to
break over 100 today. I thought it was
going to get rejected by 100. So it's
really impressive. Like the amount of
momentum in Cororeef has been really
mind-blowing. But the thing is if what
like I'll say hey I think long-term core
is going to be a bag holder like in you
know 2 or 3 years as these chips become
bag holder ships. Cororeeve is the face
of bag holding. Uh people will leave a
comment and be like oh well core is up
8% today. I'm like I understand it is
right now a momentum play. It is
actually a good short-term upside bet as
long as there's no shock. you know,
really unfolding right now. Uh, in the
long term though, I suspect it's going
to be a bag holder. Now, am I going to
buy shorts on it? No, because like you
can't time it. Like, you don't know when
it's going to turn into a bag holder.
But my point is, we have to look at
these sort of like broader outlook here
and this commitment that I'm making.
Mind you, also, I see house hack as the
hedge to this. Now, I'm I I want you to
know why, okay? I I don't want you to
think of this, oh, like here's a house
hack pitch or whatever. I want you to
understand why I see paid off real
estate as a piggy bank hedge or cash. So
I I if I I think if I explain that
clearly uh it will make sense. So I have
invested a lot of money into house hack,
well over $5 million, $5 million into
the latest round that we're doing that
pays a 5% yield plus upside in the
stock. You know, you can read our
disclosures over at house hack.com.
Every investment has risk. Uh and and
and also I've spent a lot of money
sustaining house hack in the early days.
uh just like you know me paying for
things right out probably millions of
dollars you know just to try to get this
thing up and running uh and and it's
because I believe in it so much as as
not only a good solid long-term
investment if we soft land and
everything is fine but also as a crisis
hedge here's how that plays out today is
about $70 million in assets if we hit a
crisis and the Federal Reserve cuts
rates in a recessionary environment like
Jerome Powell says to zero
then I believe we are going to be able
to crack the egg of our real estate, $70
million worth of assets, turn it into
probably about a $230 to $260 million
portfolio. If you take $230 million
minus, you know, the $60 million we've
already deployed and we only buy wedge
deals with that and we create $100,000
for every $600,000 or every $500,000 we
invest, we'll generate additional
profits of $30 to $40 million in asset
value. So in other words, like we will
generate massive uh profits with uh
those deals uh by by essentially
breaking the piggy bank. So that's why I
see that piggy bank as a hedge. Not only
that, but when you break that egg, what
you really do is you
create long-term leveraged optionality.
Okay, that sounds fancy, but it's very,
very simple. Let's say you have $70
million of real estate today. It
appreciates 10% over, I don't know, 10
years or 5 years, whatever. Okay, we
don't have to speculate. We know real
estate's going to go up over the long
term. Well, I mean, I think that, okay,
can't guarantee it. Uh, so whether it's
3 years, 5 years, 10 years, who cares?
If you generate 10% in just
appreciation, like the property's going
up in value, that's $7 million. But if
you do that on a leveraged portfolio
because you crack the piggy bank, you
know, your hedge and you get 10% on a
$240 million portfolio, the company
makes 23 $24 million in in in profits in
in, you know, appreciated untaxable
profits that you can redeem tax-free
through refinancing. So really when you
look at this this piggy bank of cash
that house hack is it's really just it's
it's a diversified hedge that does well
in a soft landing environment where we
develop ADUs and and you know look for
yields through development or wedge
deals or it's a piggy bank hedge in the
event of a worst case scenario crash. Uh
and obviously if there's some sort of
worst case scenario crash we're not
going to be paying 5% bond yields
anymore. we will obviously to our
existing investors, but we're just going
to close the round because we could
probably raise at, you know, a 2% yield
and people would still buy it. So, you
know, obviously that's why I think now
it's is an opportune time. But that
said, I want you to apply that to
yourself. How can you apply that to
yourself? Well, you apply it to yourself
with trailing stops on a portion of your
portfolio. So that way, if we do have a
crisis, you trailing stop out and you
have cash. You diversify to investments
that provide you yield. Yes, house is an
example of those. That's why that's why
we do this. Like people are like, "Oh,
why why why are you offering 5% yield?"
This is why. Because when I put my money
where my mouth is, when I say I think
it's a good idea to diversify to a cash,
b trailing stocks, and c flowing
investments, it's because if we go into
a poopy dupy environment, I want you to
be able to have that optionality. Okay,
great. So, let's make that clear. Yes.
Okay, you can learn more about house or
house. Okay, you get that idea. This
video is not a solicitation. Go read the
solicitation agreements, whatever. What
matters is I am going to make a
commitment that if we have soft
landed by October I will have a clown
show for Halloween. And I think I
deserve it because it means that I was
wrong. It means that I was wrong to be
uh a
bear. I personally believe that we on
the downside could be exposed to a
generational shock uh that is triggered
by I don't know what yet. you know, some
black swan, whether it's the combination
of, you know, the tariff drama or uh
employment or whatever disasters are
going on. What it doesn't matter. That
shock uh could lead to a substantial
surge in layoffs. And as soon as we get
that substantial surge in layoffs, that
actually shows up in the data, the Fed's
going to panic. Rates are going to zero,
and the stock market's going to be very
devastated because earnings are going to
have to get written down substantially
because nobody's going to be buying a
new Tesla or or, you know, uh whatever.
everybody's going to be canceling their
AI subscriptions because people are out
of money. Unfortunately, that's what
happens in a recession. So, I think as a
result of that that downside risk, I
want to put a date on this and say if
that does not occur by October, then
it's a clown show. Okay? Literally, I'll
I'll take the L. Uh I don't know what
we'll do if we're right. I don't really
want to like celebrate and rub it in
people's faces because if I'm right, it
means we're in a recession and a lot of
people are suffering.
that sucks. I mean, we'll be fine
because again, we're we're hedged and
built for that. It's fine. We're we're
good either way. It it doesn't it
doesn't it doesn't matter. Uh and there
are some, you know, stocks that I have
exposure to, which we talk about in the
Alpha Report, where it's like, okay,
well, I mean, if we soft land, you know,
some of these are, you know, these
little small companies probably have the
chance to really uh 10x uh which is
fine, too. So, like either way, it it
doesn't matter to me. Uh but I want to
be transparent about that. Uh because I
think if we soft land with no correction
by October uh or or shock, then we're
probably through it because that means
in a soft landing, it means that
unemployment is likely going to be
rising again. Manufacturing is going to
be rising again. Uh spending is going to
be rising again. Earnings growth can
start getting priced in again. EPS
growth gets priced in again. Uh, and
when those things get priced in again,
we could bull run for the next 10 years.
And it means we we had rolling
recessions. As Kathy Wood says, we
didn't have the big shebang like the
2008. We just had rolling recessions and
we got through it. In that case, I was
wrong to be bearish between July of 2024
and October of 2025. And as a result of
that mistake, I will dress up as a
clown. Do I think that I'm wrong right
now?
I'm like 50/50, you know, like uh I I I
mean, if I really had to lean, I'd
probably say I think I'm 60% likely to
be right. I don't really want to be
right because again, it's it's going to
be very painful. But, you know, some of
the recent data we've gotten has been
pretty bullish. And so, I I I don't see
myself as somebody who flip-flops. I see
myself as very very consistent uh over
long periods of time with large bets.
And I'm very transparent about that. And
if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I'm willing
to change my mind if I'm wrong and I'm
willing to do that by October. Uh
because that's that's when we'll know.
So I think that's clear. Uh and
hopefully this sort of transparency in
in where my head is is is reasonable. Uh
and that way you know where where my
mindset is coming from as an investor.
So uh leave me a comment down below what
we should do for Halloween if we're
right. Uh and uh you know maybe we'll
have to do like Last of Us Armies or
something like that. Uh, or um, you
know, it'll sort of be mood fitting. Uh,
or what you want me to wear on the clown
show, you know, like G g-string and and
red nose. So, I don't think anybody
wants to see me in that. Um, but,
um, either way, I appreciate y'all. I'm
going to keep providing value to you.
Uh, the goal is every single day with a
Meet Kevin report around 9:00 a.m. We
didn't do that today because of the, uh,
Eric Ding interview, which I actually
think was was a very impressive uh,
interview. No, I don't agree with
everything, but nobody should nobody
should agree with everything. Uh and um
uh here, I'll show you as as sort of a
bonus for you making it to the end of
the video. I'll show you the uh dusty
cyber truck. Uh the thing about
California is it rains so
little. Oh man, it looks terrible. I
just got this washed like 8 days ago and
uh when it doesn't rain, look at this.
And this is gross. I could like write in
there like clown, you know.
Um, but uh, but I will say I really like
the Cybertruck. I know a lot of people
poop on it, but this thing's a freaking
utility beast. Uh, although I have to
say I was a little embarrassed I had to
do this. I went to Lowe's and Home Depot
to pick up 8 uh foot uh, 1 and 1/2 in
schedule uh, uh, 80
PVC. And
um, you can't fit eight footers in this.
you can only fit six feet in the bed and
you can't pop the little window on the
inside. So, it's like I can't stick it
through there. I'd have to leave the
tailgate open, but I don't want to do
that. Uh, you know, because like and
then I have to tie it and all this sort
of stuff. So, it's a little
embarrassing. But I actually took this
car uh which is Lawrence
Sienna and you could stick you could
probably stick I would argue 10 I could
probably get a 10ft stick in here uh
which is more rare anyway. You get that
maybe with like crown moldings or
whatever but I could probably fit a 10ft
stick in here and go from back to dash
in the front just fine. Like when I
stick the 8t in here it actually drops
about where the center console is. So, I
probably have an certainly an easy extra
two feet there, which is kind of crazy.
A little bit disappointing. Uh the the
what I could have done, I suppose, is I
could have just rolled this open and
then had again them sticking out like
hanging over by 2 ft off the back, but
again, I you know, and then I guess you
could have kind of like jam the tunnel
cover against it. Uh maybe I'll do that
next time. But I've got the little
partitions in there and it it just
seemed like too much of a headache. Uh
so I do wish the bed was a little
longer. I would have paid for the longer
version, but
[Music]
um ask me tape. Thanks so much for
watching, folks. I really appreciate
you. Um and uh I'm going to go charge
the segway now. I'll see you in the next
one. Goodbye and good luck. Why not
advertise these things that you told us
here? I feel like nobody else knows
about this. We'll we'll try a little
advertising and see how it goes.
Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you. Kevin Praath there, financial
analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always
great to get your take.
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