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Tesla Q3 Earnings Disaster | Expect 12 Months of HELL.

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hey everyone me Kevin here boy oh boy

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Elon Musk I gave us a whole bill of

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opium today and I'll tell you I like

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compium the path for Tesla has been

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written at least for Elon Musk that with

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a little bit of luck maybe a lot of luck

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and a lot of hard work Tesla per Elon

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Musk could potentially be worth twice

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the value of Saudi aramco

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that would be over 4 trillion dollars in

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future value potentially now Elon also

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says that another way Tesla could be

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worth as much as apple and Saudi aramco

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are worth today combined also over four

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trillion dollars that's about 5.7 X the

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stock price today which would be over a

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thousand dollars which Elon Musk thinks

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is possible uh per share for Tesla now

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of course hey that's opium but he even

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added to that about 50 minutes into the

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call Elon Musk mic drops because here I

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am thinking sure I mean if Robo taxi

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takes off all the cars the semi trucks

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the energy and robots take off sure

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thousand bucks a share fine but then

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about 50 minutes into the call he Mike

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drops and says oh by the way that's

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without Optimus four trillion dollars

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wow okay a lot of Hope right out of the

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gate so we're gonna do this video from

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like the happiest part to the worst

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parts so the next happy part the

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potential for a five to ten billion

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dollar buyback of Tesla shares probably

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next year that's because they're keeping

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this cash Reserve to make sure if in

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their scenario of a nasty 2023 recession

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they can still survive which they

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believe that even in a nasty scenario or

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recession they'll still be able to

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produce operating cash flow in a 2023

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nasty recession which is amazing if they

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can and obviously we don't want to go

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through a nasty recession but we want

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them to be prepared for that and have a

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cash buffer that actually is interesting

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because if we don't have a nasty

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recession in 2023 and things start

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turning up that means the stock market

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will probably start going up and Tesla

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stock will probably start going up right

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at the same time Tesla says oh now let's

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do our buyback and you could just

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literally take jet fuel and pour it onto

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Tesla stock once it starts going up

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potentially next year so you got lots of

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time to buy the dip between now and then

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unfortunately or maybe fortunately

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anyway they did have a four percent

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reduction in GNA costs this year I'm

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sorry this quarter which is actually

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good this is part of the layoffs that

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they had and white collar workers they

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still grew Revenue in sort of their Top

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Line deliveries at a 50 clip while

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reducing GNA by four percent Elon Musk

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says will happen have an epic Q4 however

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there is a little bit of reading into

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that you had to do regarding their 50

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annual compounded growth rate for their

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50 annual compounded growth rate they

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believe that in future years probably 24

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25 and 26 they're actually going to

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average more than a 50 growth rate in

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fact at the beginning of this year Elon

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Musk was talking about maybe even a 60

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compounded annual growth rate but that

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went away there's no more comment about

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60 now it's like ah we hope to average

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50 to me this kind of sounds like the

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Federal Reserve when they're like we

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hope to average two percent inflation in

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other words it's probably going to run

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hot uh or inflation's going to run hot

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for a while and for Tesla's purposes it

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probably means we're going to miss 50

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for a few quarters going forward

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especially since Tesla's projecting that

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2023 could be rough as they get through

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some of these recessionary challenges

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and remaining commodity and supply chain

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crises and that's obviously where we had

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a big Miss today margin margin just

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didn't come in as well as we expected we

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expected it to come in at about 28.4 it

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actually uh came in hold on let me uh

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fact check that number really quick uh

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we had a margin I have it written down

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right here yeah 28.4 was the expectation

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it came in at 27.9 unfortunately coming

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out of Shanghai or shanghel last quarter

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with Shanghai being shut down so much we

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actually saw margin uh stay stable with

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shanghai's quarter this quarter and we

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missed expectations despite the fact

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that Shanghai reopened up that's a

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problem now part of that is because

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Tesla is arguing that hey we're still

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seeing the the pain of peak commodity

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prices and they say that even though

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commodity prices are falling for things

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like steel and aluminum being down

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somewhere around 17 to 20 percent and

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even though shipping costs are down from

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twenty thousand dollars a container to

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like 35 to 3 600 they're not seeing

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Commodities deflation in lithium and

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Battery products they're also remember

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companies like Tesla they lock in these

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costs into their supply chains and to

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into contracts for a while so they're

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only now what they believe is just now

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hitting Peak commodity prices and they

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expect maybe they'll see 10 of their

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costs come down in Q4 but not some kind

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of windfall so they're like don't expect

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to see uh our costs come down a lot next

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uh next quarter maybe in 2023 and Elon

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Musk is like yeah probably 2023. in fact

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uh it would be surprised if costs didn't

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come down in 2020 uh three some other

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hope excuse me was this comment on the

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potential for that model two to be a

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smaller car and potentially in the

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future half the cost of a model 3 and Y

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and they're going to take everything

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that they've learned from making the

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model S the three the X the Y the Cyber

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truck and the semi and hopefully make a

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car for half the cost with half of the

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factory space and and they think all of

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this can be done at some point in the

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future obviously again that's just more

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hopium so kind of back to reality Q4

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numbers operating margin did breach 17

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however we hit 19 in q1 so we kind of

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fell back down a little bit uh free cash

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flow of over three billion dollars 3.2

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to be exact expecting an annual free

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cash flow of over nine billion dollars

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this is remarkable and Tesla Bulls are

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going to talk about that all day long

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but let's be real that's already priced

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in and really what moves Tesla stock is

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growth projections and the fact that we

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went from hey maybe we'll have 60 annual

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compounded growth too uh we'll average

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50 and we're probably going to miss in

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Q4 even though we're excited about Q4

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kind of is leaving the stock down 4.7

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Elon does believe it's foolish to buy a

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gas vehicle because the residual value

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of those will go down to zero full

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self-driving is expecting a wider

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release in Q4 likely next month and it

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will also be immediately available when

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you buy a new car so far Tesla has about

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three and a half million vehicles on the

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road a fraction of even one percent of

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the global Fleet of over 2 billion

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vehicles on the road Elon believes that

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energy storage could see 150 to 200

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growth rate in the future but the

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problem with that is not a lot of margin

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there semi gets delivered the first semi

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gets delivered to uh Pepsi December 1st

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margin on energy by the way is like nine

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and a half percent so relatively low

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again they're uh they believe they're

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they're spending on R D which is up

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about nine percent nineteen percent year

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over year is uh actually it actually

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goes a lot further than any of our

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competition outside of Tesla Factory

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ramping Q3 hit record numbers Berlin up

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to 2 000 Vehicles a week Giga Austin

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should reach that soon that means Berlin

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is actually ahead of Austin they tripled

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their 4680 cell production from the

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prior quarter and uh growth is rapidly

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growing which is our production is

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rapidly growing which is great still

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Transit problems though not enough ships

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to get vehicles out of China because

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less Chinese are buying Vehicles so you

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got to ship them out but there just

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aren't enough ships and trains to

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actually get these vehicles out and so

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you have logistical issues bringing

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margins down and then obviously Supply

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uh cost issues of bringing margins down

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supply chain risks could lead to a Miss

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on that 50 percent growth rate that's

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obviously a problem and Elon Musk does

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expect that will meet all the thresholds

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to basically take full advantage of the

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inflation reduction act and so one of

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the big things that I'm seeing here is

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you're basically if you're a Tesla

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investor you have to look at Tesla as

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okay we're probably going to go through

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not another quarter of hell but like

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another year of help that's because

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maybe in a year from now inflation will

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finally start meaningfully coming down

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not only will inflation meaningfully

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start coming down but maybe rates will

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start coming down then the supply chain

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issues and shipping issues will be gone

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and then the commodity costs issues will

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be gone and then we can pour jet fuel on

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Tesla stock but until then you gotta

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wait uh it's gonna be a bumpy ride until

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then honestly I don't think we're going

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to see 50 annual compounded uh growth

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rates for the next few quarters to me

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what I'm hearing here is we're gonna

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have a bumpy Q4 we're gonna have

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probably have a bumpy q1 q1 is always

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worse than Q4 so if Q4 is going to be

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bumpy q1 is probably going to be bumpy

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you're still ramping and so

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unfortunately you've got more hardship

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ahead rather than just easiness however

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the expectations are that if you're a

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long-term investor hey you know what

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this hardship is just an opportunity to

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be part of something that could

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potentially in the future uh be worth uh

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two and a half times what it's worth now

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which would be say somewhere around 500

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a share 550 a share and maybe even

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double that if elon's optimistic

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projections are right so in other words

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if you take elon's optimistic

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projections water them down by 50 you're

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still at 500 bucks right so uh they do

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believe that margin will uh return to

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that 30 level and uh if you take out FX

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and some of the commodity issues they

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believe exactly that is possible but uh

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realistically the issues like from what

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I'm hearing I'm not hearing that we have

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any issues that are short-term

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everything to me sounds like a long-term

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long-term issue long-term pain more pain

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to come uh and uh unfortunately we've

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got to buckle up and buckle up just

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means strap in hold tight and if you're

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long term buyer buy and hoddle if you're

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trading yeah you're probably just making

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money shorting it uh personally I'm

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optimistic I don't see anything here

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that's the red flag my biggest red flags

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were margin and honestly the fact that

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they told me they're still not past Peak

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margin uh or past Peak or or maybe just

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now past Peak commodity prices made a

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lot of sense to me it actually gave me

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confidence that okay that makes sense

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like Q3 was still experiencing

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increasing costs not decreasing cost

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because a lot of us went into this

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quarterly report thinking oh well cost

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came down right no okay well that's good

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Clarity uh confidence on sales look I do

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expect they're going to sell all their

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vehicles and uh that was reiterated

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today they didn't reiterate it as

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hardcore as they previously had but uh

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they still expect to sell other vehicles

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and even Wall Street expects they're

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gonna sell all their vehicles through

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the end of 2023. I think now it's just a

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matter of how bad is the recession gonna

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be so folks there you have it

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bullish but enjoy the opportunity to buy

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The Damp thanks for being here folks

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we'll see you next one goodbye

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