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everyone me Kevin here we've got to go
through the CPI numbers and I wanted to
get them out to you before we take off
so I thought I'd go out here and get you
a video boy this is by the way about the
100th flight I've taken this year so far
and I've seen so much from all of you in
person been meeting course members
agents uh thank you so much to all of
you and none of this would be possible
without you and I know there's a lot of
uncertainty right now with what's going
on especially since we started seeing
stocks fall again so I wanted to talk
about obviously CPI projections we're
going to go through the JPM CPI
projections and then we'll also go
through Goldman projections the CPI
projections are a big deal they're going
to be absolutely one of the reasons why
we are seeing a soft market right now
because look how could you buy right
before your CPI data release people need
that additional confidence that we are
indeed uh on a disinflationary path and
there is a chance that we are going to
get a rocky CPI reports any Rockies CPI
report coming up is going to be a
horrible negative Catalyst especially
with fears that the unemployment
recession is still above or ahead of us
this morning I filmed a video talking
about how that unemployment recession
could be ahead of us and some of you
actually very smart I appreciate y'all
like I appreciate the critical thinking
some of you were asking me because we
looked at the unemployment chart and how
when employment rises above the moving
average the simply a simple moving
average we tend to see a recession soon
after and we've recently had that
however some of you had asked well what
about the other times it's moved above
the moving average and we didn't have a
recession after those instances occurred
right after a previous recession which
somewhat implies some volatility
happening right after a recession I
personally believe that there is a
possibility that is the volatility we're
getting after the coveted recession or
it is a red flag of things to come in
other words we have no freaking idea and
that's why we're so reliant on any data
we can get
assuage our fear so to speak that hey
we're not going into a big dark ugly
recession I will tell you though and
this was a red flag and this is another
red flag is the first time I've heard
somebody say this an agent told me today
in Arizona that's where I am right now
it's hot okay I'm wearing my short
shorts all right
in Arizona I had an agent say Kevin
we're starting to see a little bit of an
uptick in some defaults I go really you
know I'm generally not seeing that other
than uh you know covet normalization
they said it's not
going to show up in the data yet the
defaults that I'm seeing are just now
coming through from people who bought
last year and then I go holy crap
those are people who bought at six seven
percent interest rates thinking they'd
be able to refinance within the next
three to six months rates stayed higher
for longer and now they're like crap
can't afford this payment red flag could
happen so there's always mixed data and
uncertainty I'll tell you there's always
a reason to be fearful there's never
going to be a lack of bad news and I
like to be aware of it because obviously
when there's a Confluence of too much
bad news you can actually have a very
bad economic forecast and that's not
great uh and uh running the different
businesses I do I always like to be as
attuned as possible holy smokes I hope
you can't hear them but there's a jet
pulling up next to me right there it is
so loud there's a chance you might hear
not hear it's too well because of the uh
the mic but anyway let's get into the
CPI analysis so CPI scenario analysis
from JP Morgan JPMorgan research we have
a five percent chance of getting a
greater than point four percent month
over month core that is a tail risk
scenario and JP Morgan is warning that
for us to see that happen we would have
to have a higher expected core along
with hotter Autos that's a big Focus
right now Goldman Sachs actually thinks
we're going to come in low on the CPI
forecast when we come in low on that
forecast it's going to be driven by
lower used and new auto prices so
that'll be a big weight down even though
we're dealing with some positive base
effects that are going to push us up but
JPM only thinking we're going to have a
five percent chance of getting a greater
than point four percent read on that
month over month number they do think
there is a 22 and a half percent chance
of getting something between 0.2 and 0.4
percent uh and they suggest that this
could actually rattle The disinflation
Narrative a little bit you could see the
Spy fall anywhere from one to one and a
half percent if you get something like
uh you know 0.4 or higher on core you're
probably going to get more like a two
plus percent decline in the s p now not
great but they have a 45 chance of
honestly just getting an expectation CPI
read tomorrow I will be live for CPI
tomorrow and I have an announcement for
everyone tomorrow which I'm very excited
about so I look forward to seeing you at
tomorrow's CPI uh that'll be 5 30 a.m or
obviously catch the replay if uh if you
want to sleep in a little bit I don't
blame you although it's going to be very
exciting
25 chance of actually having a below
read of 0.1 to 0.2 consensus being 0.2
any read of point one to point two wow
okay that was unexpected I actually had
to cut uh because apparently the phone
overheated thanks to it being 109
degrees out on the tarmac so picking up
where we were uh 25 chance of getting a
between 0.1 to 0.2 percent cementing the
disinflation story suggests JPM and
could potentially launch uh the view
that the FED would be closer to
declaring mission accomplished
potentially get us getting us closer to
finally cutting or at least having a a
path towards cutting I think a lot of
folks are really excited about that
because once we get on the path to
cutting we can then really argue okay we
can get back to credit expansion we can
call the EPS troughs uh in in stocks
that we've seen and uh then we'll
certainly get a lot more enthusiasm in
the cyclical trades as well whether
that's your your solar your Automotive
uh or other highly interest rate
sensitive sectors there's only about a
two and a half percent chance of getting
a print below point one percent per JPM
personally I'm leaning to something like
a point uh one five so we'll have to
actually look at the actual number and
do the math on it because they'll round
that to 0.2 but I'm leaning myself to a
core of slightly below 0.2 I actually
think we're really going to cement that
disinflation story if we don't though
we've got some real risks of course as
we know one report doesn't make a trend
so one bad report tomorrow uh won't
necessarily confirm that oh inflation's
re-skyrocketing or something like that
which we don't expect but any kind of
read over point two on core I will
certainly jolt the market at a time
where people are already a little you
know gun shy especially after the Fitch
downgrade it was not great even though
nobody really cares about Fitch the
downgrade definitely came at a not the
most ideal time since we just peeked out
and stocks here locally on June 19th
Tesla earnings day almost the entire
stock market peaked out and started
trending down from there so CPI
consensus and I want to get into Goldman
as well consensus we're looking at 0.2
month over month uh that's for headline
month over month core month over month
is 0.2 year over year 3.3 get a little
bit of an addition there because uh from
the prior read of three thanks to Energy
prices uh oil is starting to Trend up
again despite the Chinese disinflation
Story Kathy Wood calling for uh China
exporting disinflation if not even
deflation core CPI a year-over-year
expected to come in at 4.7 which strips
out those volatile food energy
components versus the prior 4.8 okay now
we're going to look at Goldman here so
uh Goldman had an interesting POV
Goldman research actually also argues
for a 0.15 increase again that's going
to look like 0.2 when we first read it
off then we'll do the math and we'll see
they think the year over year will come
in at 466 versus the 4-8 consensus I uh
for eight to four seven depending on
what time of day you look at the
consensus I align with Goldman on this
and I don't always align with Goldman
but Goldman's the other research
institution that I really appreciated
when they uh argued that uh stocks tend
to bottom about six to nine months
before
you actually get a bottom in earnings
which would somewhat align with the
bottom in earnings in Q2 Q3 here stock
market bottom around Q4 of 2022 uh
Goldman Sachs arguing for a three
percent decline in used car prices point
three percent decline in new car prices
reflecting lower used car auction prices
and continued increases in dealer
promotional activity they also think
we'll have some down downward revisions
which I was surprised by in apparel and
lodging prices I was expecting maybe a
little bit more of a push to the upside
on lodging and travel and Hospitality
because of some summer travel seasons
and this season potentially being more
on demand than previous Seasons however
much of the summer travel has actually
been for international destinations
which could potentially reduce that
inflation here in America or that
inflationary impetus you would get in
those categories shelter inflation to
remain roughly on Pace coming in maybe
at about 0.44 as Goldman's estimate they
believe that if we get any read over 0.3
we'll be uh negative one one and a half
percent on the S P anything really 0.2
and a half or less will be positive
because it'll really reiterate lower car
prices lower shelter inflation less wage
inflation remember we we want to see
people make more money over time but we
don't want that to disanchor to where
all of a sudden we're facing a potential
wage price spiral though that has not
been the case at all this cycle uh those
those fears were existed quite well
early 2022 but have not uh
proven to be uh most accurate after that
we have PPI coming out the very next day
so we'll have CPI tomorrow very next day
we'll have PPI coming up I'll give you
quickly the expectations for PPI less
people care about this one but usually
people like to say PPI leads to CPI so
this is your producer price inflation
number survey month over month 0.2 core
0.2 and then you're looking at final
demand year over year 0.7 uh that's year
over year that's less than two percent
right and then core PPI dropping to 2.3
from 2.4 then a very next uh actually
just a little bit later that day we will
be getting our University of Michigan
sentiment read 5 30 a.m tomorrow for PPM
sorry PPI tomorrow 5 30 a.m sorry what
am I saying CPI tomorrow 5 30 a.m the
next morning 5 30 a.m PPI then 7 A.M the
University of Michigan sentiment read
looking for one year to stay stable at
about 3.5 half that is a tick up from
3.4 for the one year inflation read but
that long term which is the important
one saying anchored at about three
percent remember that's part of how Jay
Powell likes to calculate what uh the
fomc rate should be using a restrictive
level of about two two and a half
percent add in the longer term inflation
expectation of three there's your
terminal fed funds rate So eventually we
expect that inflation expectation to
come down along with the level of
restrictiveness that the FED believes
they need so we might see that uh lead
to rate Cuts next year although the
estimates for that vary it could be uh
March it could be July what I found is
more patience is required for everything
I think that's true with real estate I
think that's required for the stock
market uh for everything so this gives
you a breakdown of CPI expectations as
well as PPI protection expectations so
I'll see you tomorrow at 5 30 a.m thanks
so much for watching make sure to
subscribe and we got a big announcement
tomorrow as well right around uh CPI
Time 5 30 so I'll be making that
announcement we'll see you there thanks
bye
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