Robinhood Financials EXPOSED!!! HOLY CRAP [Robinhood IPO]
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hey everyone me kevin here okay i
we just got done with the valuetainment
podcast and i was going to go change the
pricing for the courses with that 40
percent of google code
that's expiring yesterday i was gonna
change the pricing and now the robinhood
ipo comes out and i'm like oh my gosh
i gotta get back somewhere i can record
so we're in the valuetainment studio
they're kind enough to let me film in
here and we gotta go through some first
impressions on these numbers
oh oh my gosh oh my gosh like wow the
robin hood numbers are out
let's do first impressions on the robin
hood numbers so i'm gonna have to just
speak some of these numbers here because
i can't get them up on screen so the
first thing that struck me like
right away i'm like oh my gosh net loss
for robin hood in the first quarter was
1.433
billion dollars actually one point four
four billion dollars like what happened
what happened that's absolutely horrible
for robin hood
what happened we got to digest this and
so i kept going through the report
and here's what i'm taking away here's
what i'm learning here's what i've got
highlighted
transaction based revenue folks they're
making 420 million dollars
or made 420 million dollars in just the
first quarter that's
almost double the last three months of
last year
their transaction revenue skyrocketed
this fourth quarter now we don't expect
that to continue
we do expect there to be some sort of
slowdown in momentum trading and volume
that's going to mean less revenues as
well but we're gonna get into the weeds
in terms of
where they're making their money how
involved is citadel we've got lots to
talk about here
uh net interest revenue so imagine this
would be on stock lending probably and
also on margin
62 million so really a fraction i mean
that's like 13 14
of their transaction based revenue other
revenues i imagine this is uh this is
these are things like robin hood gold i
haven't read through the whole s1 yet
i'm probably
i mean i've spent about 30 minutes on it
right now and we're doing this video to
talk about some initial first
impressions here so a lot of weeds to go
through here
but we've got 39 million dollars there
uh so that's less than 10
of the transaction revenue going to this
their expenses
in the first quarter absolutely exploded
in terms of marketing their marketing
expense
literally 3xed their marketing expenses
in the quarter went from 33 million
to 102 million dollars now that's
probably because
they started paying they started doing
affiliate partnerships with a lot of
creators right before the massive
gamestop crisis
and that was one of the reasons they
ended up with net more users
during the gamestop crisis which ended
up being perfect for them because they
were able to tell everyone in the media
hey look
we ended up getting more users despite
the gamestop crisis yeah but that's
because between january 22nd and
february 1st
you were doing a sign up and get four
free stocks with this creator link and
then paying affiliate commissions
much more than you had ever done before
with the sign up and get a free stock
thing or whatever with robinhood
the new affiliate structure is huge and
it cost them a pretty freaking penny in
that first quarter
102 million dollars that's a lot because
they doubled their transaction growth
uh which i mean hopefully that marketing
revenue long tails right i don't think
they're spending that kind of money
anymore i think they realize they
overspent so this is probably a little
bit more of a one-time thing
just because they haven't really talked
about bringing the affiliate thing back
doing the
like the crypto things the smaller
commissions and things but i think they
realized they overspent on
creator affiliate commissions it was
insane technology development they spent
116 million dollars that's up from 81
million uh 900
000 in the last quarter and up from 44
million i'm sorry 55 million in the
quarter before
ending september 30th 2020. so they're
spending a lot more on technology
spending more on operations about 50
more in operations 50
more on technology uh only about 30
more on the actual brokerage and
transaction side but
uh the big expense actually comes from
and this is this helps us understand
this a little bit
change in value in convertible notes and
warrant liabilities
now that's going to take a lot more
weeding through to go through but there
were some recent sec rule changes where
you have to
recognize warrants now and this was a
big issue with spax
you have to recognize warrants as an
expense
even though like you're getting cash
from selling warrants
you have to recognize it as an expense
the same thing's happening at sofi
you look at their general and admin it's
like way through the roof
and in the weeds of their s1 is that 83
or 87 million dollars of that is because
of warrants well you've got the same
kind of warrant crisis going on here
except it's for 1.49 billion
dollars literally if you walked back the
1.49
billion dollars this company would
be profitable it's insane to say but
this company would be at around
50 to 60 million dollars in profit i'm
doing rough rough numbers right now
because
again i can't share the screen there's
limited i could do here i
i can only do this on one take as well
so you're getting me pretty raw here
so right now they recognized a six
dollar and twenty cent loss
per share in the first quarter but again
most of that worn liabilities they'd be
profitable
if it weren't for these warrant
liabilities in fact if they were
somewhere around
60 million dollars of revenue in the
first quarter without these warrant
liabilities
you would take that 60 million divided
by 230 million diluted shares
puts you somewhere around 26 cents
in quarterly revenue that's about a buck
you'd be at about a dollar
in annualized eps if you could
extrapolate out because their marketing
expenses are going to go down their
transaction revenues are going to go
down a bit
they're probably at an annualized 2021
one dollar eps when you take out
the warrant liabilities that's actually
really good because i
expect robinhood to probably sell for
ipo somewhere between evaluation private
market revaluation right now is like 60
65 70 per share i wouldn't be surprised
if they're somewhere closer to
uh an 80 90 per share which would put
them very high
on 2021 valuation be like 80 90 times
but if you extrapolate it out to 2022
3 4 you know future pe would actually be
lower they're they're making a decent
amount of revenue a very decent amount
of revenue it's not bad at all right now
we've got uh robin hood uh primary
sources of liquidity
looks like a lot of they raised a lot of
warrants and and notes during the uh gme
crisis
uh that they're gonna have to go through
the weeds on this i want to
explore now uh here we go this is
interesting okay so this here
says how they're making most of their
money folks this is mind-blowing okay
ready
for this options 197
million dollars in the first quarter of
2021 that's about that's
almost half of their revenue was coming
from options trading
and finra just smacked them upside the
head because of misleading statements
regarding options
now i did a whole breakdown video on
finra and these options
but oh i cannot believe i mean you this
is probably about 45 percent is going
anyways from options
only 133 million out of 420 i have 420
uh it actually is 420 million total
transaction based revenue is 420 million
it's perfect but anyway equities is only
130.
so that's uh that's less than half right
i mean you're somewhere in like 30
or something like that uh almost half
options maybe somewhere around 30
for equities crypto currencies even
this is okay this literally
robin hood hands down any experiment
i've ever done has the best
cryptocurrency pricing you're not paying
the coinbase pro five dollars
you're not paying the spreads that
you're paying at other cryptocurrency
apps and i know people hate
hearing that because well hey if it's
not you're you know if you don't have
control of your coin it's not your coin
you know you don't have your key it's
not your coin
i get that you they don't have the
crypto wallets i totally totally get it
folks i don't know how they do it but
they've got the cheapest pricing
and they still made 87.5 million dollars
off cryptocurrencies
i mean that's like 18 to 20 but still oh
my gosh
on interest lending margin interest 27
million
securities lending see what did i say
share lending 35 million
interest on segregated cash uh so cash
people having their their
cash accounts a million bucks i mean
that's that's nothing uh total net
revenues 522 million dollars
total operating expenses uh coming in at
463 million
mind you these operating expenses have
exploded
uh looking at some of their opex here
general and administration
and these are uh let's see these are i
want to go back to the first page here
so
marketing operations these are comparing
quarters to quarters
yeah i mean you've had actually an
explosion in some of these expenses we
talked about brokerage
going from first quarter expenses 30
million
to uh to 41 million let me see how they
loop it over on this particular page
here because it's a little different
here we have first three months of march
oh
okay okay okay now they're comparing the
first three months of 2021
not to the last three months of 2020 but
to the first three months of 2020. so
this gives you a year over year overview
they are spending double on brokerage
and transaction from 20 million to 41
million they're spending
uh over three and a half x on technology
and development
from 33 million to 116 million
operations grew from 21 mil to 66 mil
that's a triple
you've got marketing that went up 46
year-over-year so maybe they do like a
beginning of the year blitz
something else i'm going to take a peek
at general and admin
went up almost 4x 34 million
to actually that's about yeah that's
about 4x uh 34 million to 137
million uh for net total expenses of 463
million again
if you got rid of those warrant
liabilities this would be a very
profitable company
at about an annualized dollar
earnings per share for 2021
uh that's that's very very very good
now i'm just going to verify these
numbers here because you've got if you
take
uh 522 minus 463 that's about
60. we've got 60 in 1060 million dollars
we've got 200 well and then multiply by
4 so 6 times 4 is 24.
yeah and you've got 230 million shares
outstanding so there'll be 240 mil
in in a net 60 times four 240 mil in
that
they've got a diluted share count of 230
mil it's about a dollar eps annualized
per uh uh i mean in in valuation
well not in valuation and what they're
earning a dollar per share without those
warrant liabilities
now those war liabilities are gonna
throw a lot of people for a while i
think
uh people are probably gonna go oh my
gosh robin hood went from profitable in
the
in in the last quarter of 2020 to losing
massive amounts of money the first
quarter
i think there's gonna be a lot of
clickbait i don't think people are gonna
get into the weeds on the warrants
i've got a lot more reading to do but
this is my first impression this is
really really interesting let's talk
about valuation though okay
so wise if they are
uh if they're trading at uh uh you know
ten dollars a share
that would put them at a uh
2.3 billion dollar company because we've
got
230 million shares times 10 a share puts
them at 2.3 billion they're not gonna
sell for that
uh let's say they sold for a hundred
times or a hundred dollars
per share that would put them somewhere
around a valuation
of 23 billion dollars
so fast clocking in at 16 bill so far is
not
probably going to be profitable until
2022 2023 minus these warrant
liabilities
this company's printing cash folks it's
printing money i don't know how they're
printing so much money on the
cryptocurrencies i want to get to the
bottom of that
i want to get to the bottom of how
they're printing so much money on these
equity transactions and
options holy smokes uh market makers
here on citadel folks
27 of their business is going to citadel
7 27 then you've got uh 12 percent going
to
uh suscu hana international group
taimoshan limited 11
entities affiliated with wolverine
holdings nine percent other less than 20
less than 10 each totaling at 22
uh and and then you've got some other
things as well so uh but citadel
at uh almost a third uh you should
really say just over a fourth
of uh of of their market making revenues
so
uh very very very very very interesting
s1 i cannot wait to read the rest of
this i'll bring you more updates thank
you so much for watching this if you
like this kind of content realize
i just got this document not that long
ago this is the first impression here we
just one took this thank you so much for
watching this
really appreciate you and folks we'll
see you in the next one with more
details bye
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