The Real Estate Crisis is Worsening | Collapse in 2023.
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hey everyone it's me kevin i've got my
real estate mic flag over here because
we gotta talk some housing today there's
some news and some three really
important things that we got to talk
about i'm coming from this little fancy
box phone booth thing at the airport
because i'm flying back from vegas
i won in poker yesterday and i'm really
happy about that thanks jeremy
anyway okay so let's go ahead and get
into some of the things here so first
just across the board right we know that
home price is already falling and the
united states home prices have fallen
about five and a half percent since
march it's no different in other
countries canadian home prices are down
for their sixth straight month
down 7.4 percent from their peak in
february which was just a month before
our peak swedish home prices are down 11
in stockholm for example since march
and you're even seeing fears now that
the uk housing market is going to
experience a similar sort of decline
with consumer confidence turning
negative solely because of fears that in
the short term housing is going to drag
the entire market down in the united
kingdom and a lot of this obviously
makes sense because mortgage interest
rates have been skyrocketing the freddie
mac survey of mortgage rates just for
the first time broke six percent just
came in this morning just a few minutes
ago actually at 6.02 percent that's the
lowest survey most of the surveys are
showing that people are getting average
mortgage rates somewhere between 6.3 to
6.8
pretty remarkable and south korea just
had its biggest monthly drop in housing
prices and again it all just relates to
rates so there are three big things that
we have to understand when it comes to
housing and are we looking at hey you
know because i see the comments right
some folks are like hey but we've had so
much in housing gains so much in the way
of housing gains like hey a little bit
of a fall isn't a bad thing right it's
just a little bit of a fluctuation we
don't need any kind of fud from you
kevin that the housing market is in
trouble that's fine
but there are a few very interesting
things happening let's break each of
these down
number one
one of the reasons interestingly we're
still seeing even though inventory has
doubled in most areas we're still seeing
relatively low inventory one of the
reasons we're still seeing relatively
low inventory is in my opinion because
of this psychological impact of rates
skyrocketing there's a really
interesting thing that happens and i
learned this as a real estate broker
working with individuals and i've spoken
with people today who without me
prompting them have come up with this
same argument and so people have this
really interesting rationalization they
think
oh well if mortgage rates are rising
then i better get in now
before rates continue to go up now a lot
of people get priced out purchasing
power is down like 35
but interestingly that actually helps
some properties still continue to sell
and it's a really interesting phenomenon
because when you look at the consumer
the university of michigan consumer
inflation and mortgage rate expectations
you end up finding that consumers think
that mortgage rates could go as high as
eight and a half percent i don't believe
that mortgage rates will go that high
but it's very interesting because it's
actually leading folks to gobble up a
little bit of leftover inventory in the
market now what's interesting to know
about that is it ain't gonna last
and that's because once mortgage rates
settle and actually stay above six
percent four months two months three
months four months probably somewhere
between three to six months is what i
would expect uh we're going to see the
removal of those sort of better get in
before rates go to 10 like they used to
be you know better get in while the
rates are still single digits i think
you're going to see a removal of that
sort of buyer from the market and then
you're going to be left with a market of
buyers where
there aren't that many buyers anymore
and they're able to afford 35 percent
less than what they were previously able
to afford right that instead of a 500
000 home loan is about a 313 000 home
loan that's a huge impact now that
doesn't mean prices are going to come
down 35 and i don't think they'll come
down 35
but it does mean that we do have this
really weird sort of and even though
prices are trending down we have this
lingering impact of buyers coming in
going oh well i better get in now
i don't know how much longer that can be
sustainable and usually that ends when
people perceive year-over-year home
values falling so that's actually
another really important thing to
consider is that we have not seen
year-over-year home prices fall in the
united states yet
our peak for home prices will probably
end up proving to be about march of 2020
and you're not going to see a year over
year decline of home prices until march
of 2023 so even though on the month over
month basis we're seeing declines which
totally makes sense with what's going on
with rates you actually have this
potential that you're not going to hit
real fear in real estate until march or
april and that's when all of a sudden
the people who are thinking about buying
are not only faced with oh man 35
percent less purchasing power but now
you're offsetting this can't lose
optimism of well might as well get in
now before mortgage rates go to double
digits oh
you know you're going to replace that
with
earner
your prices are falling or maybe i'll
wait right and it's usually that that uh
like over fear or just the fear of the
media and all your neighbors and
everybody talking about oh prices are
coming down it's usually that fear that
perpetuates further declines in real
estate and so this is exactly why we're
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the most important things that we want
to remember is that fear point is
probably going to come somewhere on
march and april that's when we're going
to get peak fear now
there is also the belief
that mortgage rates and especially the
federal funds rate will actually stay a
lot higher and uh stay at a higher level
for a lot longer and this is sort of
part two as of last month
the market and even still to some degree
today the market has relatively been
pricing in the federal reserve is going
to slow down their rate hikes uh we're
not going to see that here on the 21st
it's going to be another 75 bp hike 80
chance of that it's gonna be what it is
uh but
the market has been trying to price in
this idea that the fed's gonna pause and
then after they pause they're going to
you turn to the downside and actually
start dropping rates in the middle of
2023 i hate to say but i don't think
that's realistic at all i think the
federal reserve is going to have a hard
time getting this really broad-based
sticky inflation where just everything
is going up
down to two percent because remember
that's the federal reserve's goal is
getting everything down to two percent i
do think we're going to see some very
quick declines in j in inflation i think
very quickly we're going to be able to
go from eight percent to the seven to
the six to the five percent range but i
wouldn't be surprised if kind of like in
weight loss we end up hitting some kind
of interest or a cpi plateau where like
for example let's say you lose 30 pounds
and you're like i really want to lose an
extra ten but you just can't like you're
just not moving off of your weight
because your body's like look man
anything below this weight either i'm
gonna make you eat more or i'm just
gonna shut your metabolism down and
you're just gonna fall asleep
you know so it's kind of it i wouldn't
surprise me to see a little bit of a
plateau with cpi where it's like hey
we're at four and a half percent
inflation and you know it's december of
2023 and jerome powell is like guess we
gotta keep rates at four percent until
we get inflation down to two percent you
know
so that's going to suck for a little
while longer
and the longer we stay at sort of a flat
but high level of the fed funds rate the
more permanent damage we see to the
housing market you could track this on a
chart by looking at the 10-year treasury
right the more you look at the 10-year
treasury the more you see that above
2.75 the more damage you have to the
housing market the more permanent that
damage is to the housing market
so we're going to see not only in my
opinion the eradication of this sort of
uh uh-huh it's better to know before ten
percent raise you're going to see that
go away when real fear actually sets in
in march i remember when i became a real
estate agent uh back you know and when i
started the process back in 2010
everybody around me is like oh my gosh
why would you want to get into real
estate everything's going down it's so
terrible and real estate did continue to
fall when i had just started but it
bottomed in 2011 to 2012 real estate
takes a lot longer to bottom and it was
really the best time ever to get into
real estate and that's what i thought
then as well i'm like these numbers are
amazing like we we said the buying
window is way open back then because you
could literally borrow 100 of your
payment and cash flow a lot
that's a little trick you use the buying
window to determine if you can borrow
everything how positive or negative are
you on a payment if you rent out the
property
uh i think we're gonna have a little
buying opportunity coming again anyway
so at number one we have that uh that
can't lose optimism right that we're
gonna see that fear in my opinion set in
q1 of 2023 then we've got this higher
inflation for for longer that plateau
that's probably going to keep mortgage
rates higher for longer which means more
damage for real estate but there's also
a third psychological thing that i want
to talk about and this also comes from
brokering experience i think psychology
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but the the psychological item we want
to talk about here is that there are
some arguments that are being made that
current sellers won't sell because
they'd have to rebuy with higher
interest rates and it's true if you have
an interest rate of two and a half or
three percent why would you sell right
now and take a six and a half percent
rate well you wouldn't that wouldn't
make sense but
this is where that argument falls apart
in my opinion and in my experience most
owners of real estate are older we're
talking about 45 to 65 year olds even up
to 75 year olds on average right your
average real estate owner is older it's
not the gen z's it's not it's barely the
millennials right it's the older
generations they hold the most property
and so what's fascinating here is if
older generations
look at this cycle and they start
getting that fear you know tucker
carlson and anderson cooper going oh my
gosh you're every year prices have
declined to you know 10
or whatever and then we get actual fear
in the market then what you might get is
a situation where older generations say
you know what i actually have my nest
egg in real estate their retirement
funds basically in real estate i don't
have time to huddle and diamond hand i
don't have time to wait for the real
estate market to bottom and then recover
maybe i need to sell now so that way i
can preserve my nest egg and i think
you're going to see a lot more of that
so you'll see less capable buyers with a
reduction of purchasing powers
of purchasing power less willing buyers
because even though they might expect
rates to continue to go up they'll be
fearful of prices coming down but then
you also potentially are going to see a
lot more willing sellers when we
actually get those year-over-year
declines in q1 of 2023 because you're
going to get those older demographics
that say i just need to lock in the
money that i've made because i might not
have time to go through another cycle so
all of these things point to really big
opportunities to buy real estate in my
opinion in 2023 and 2024 and now is the
time to get your w-2 income as high as
possible get your self-employment income
as high as possible start taking less
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thanks so much for watching and we'll
see you soon bye
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