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uh Elon just tweeted about uh Powell

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being wrong uh about rates not getting

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cut in the next couple years that's not

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what he said oh that's not what he said

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so uh there's been a lot of debate about

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Jerome Powell making this argument that

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the FED is not going to cut rates for

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the next two years this is another

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mainstream media argument that oh Powell

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says he's not going to count rates for

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two years problem is if you look in

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context of the question that he received

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Jerome Powell was asked about two-year

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projections so he was answering about

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two-year projections he was not saying

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rates are not going to get cut for two

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years that's not what he was saying if

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you look at what he said out of context

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that may seem like that's what he says

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but what he actually did is he referred

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to his formula again he referred to his

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formula which his formula is take

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inflation expectations at some level of

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restrictiveness and that's what nominal

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rates should be so if inflation

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expectations as he told us last month or

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three percent and you want rates to be

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two percent in terms of where you want

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you want real rates to be two percent

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well then that means you need nominal

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rates to be five percent well that's

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where we are now five percent minus

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inflation expectations one year out of

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about three percent one to three years

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now uh then you get to a a restrictive

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real rate of two percent and Jerome

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Powell in this response to you oh they

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need to they're not going to cut rates

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for two years in his response he's

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talking specifically about two-year

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projections and he actually made it

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clear in his response that well look as

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inflation Falls you're going to have to

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adjust rates down to keep rates at a

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restrictive level that's equal to what

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it has been because if you don't reduce

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rates you're actually increasing rates

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by not reducing rates that's what he

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said however a lot of people were very

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very confused by Jerome Powell's

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response because he was responding to a

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question specifically about uh this uh

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you know two-year projection and I think

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that really skewed people's

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understanding of what he meant with no

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cut for two years so

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yeah I want to I want to add some good

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clarity about that Jerome Powell did not

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say they would not cut for two years he

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did say they would not cut this year but

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that's okay the bond Market's already

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priced that in but there's no cuts for

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two years it literally defies the very

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definition he gave in the response and

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the Very definition he gave last month

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so no that that that's a fundamental out

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of context misunderstanding of what

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Jerome Powell suggests take a look at

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what Nick T has to say in the Wall

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Street Journal of this morning uh he got

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a little schooled by j-pal yesterday or

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at least that's how social media uh

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picked it up when uh Nick T was asking

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about the pace versus the level of hikes

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and Jerome Powell made it clear that uh

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there's there's a big difference versus

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pace and the reason they pause is

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because now they can focus on staying at

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a level for a very long time so we'll go

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through what Nick T here together says

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however it's worth noting a few things

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as we go into Nick T's piece first of

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all Bloomberg is running headlines that

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the FED is indicating at least two more

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rate high likes or that Powell is I

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don't think Powell was doing that at all

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but the summary of economic projections

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was obviously the summary of economic

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projections coming in hot at 5.6 the

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worth noting very good point that the

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summary of economic projections came out

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on Friday or was submitted by members on

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Friday which is before both CPI and PPI

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data despite this though markets are

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read with a 71 percent chance of a hike

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on July 26th and by July or by September

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20th we're looking at a cumulative about

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a 77 percent chance of at least one hike

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if not two so let's take a listen here

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to what uh Nick T says also keep in mind

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that Richard Clarita this morning did

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indicate that maybe only one more raid

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hike uh would uh would be expected and

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that two would be a bit aggressive and

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so we'll see uh there's a lot of talk

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that the FED is actually closer to being

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being done then where they uh then where

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people might think that they need to go

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uh and that would apply maybe one more

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rate hike but let's see a Nick T's piece

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here so beneficials agree to hold rates

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steady after 10 consecutive Heights the

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new summary of economic projections

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after their two-day meeting suggested

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they were leaning towards slowing down

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their increases versus stopping them all

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together most of them penciled in two

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more rate increases this year which

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would lift them to a 22-year high they

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really needed to hammer home the message

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that this was not the end which they did

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and this was something that we had all

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suspected that is the Fed really

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actually thinking about raising rates

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two more times or are they just trying

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to indicate some messaging to the market

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that hey man don't don't think this is a

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pause let's let's go a little strong

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then and indicate or prove to markets

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that this isn't a pause and let's send

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them a signal even if we don't believe

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it that this is just a uh you know a

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temporary skip you know we even had

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Jerome Powell will slip up and mention

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the word skip once and then uh Retreat

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and say oh well I shouldn't call it a

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skip oh so have you been talking about

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it being a skip anyway it's supposed to

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be excitement the FED implied the

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decision to maintain Benchmark fed funds

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rate uh would be at the level where it

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is now would be short-lived after

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holding the FED funds rate near zero

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following the pandemic the FED is raised

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okay we know the history of it yeah we

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want to get some more future leaks here

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Nikki leaks we don't need a history

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lesson here Wednesday's decision not to

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raise rates is a continuation of that

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process at j-pal common sense to go a

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little bit slower yes officials had

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signaled growing disagreement in recent

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weeks over whether to keep raising rates

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some officials became more doubtful at

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March because of the banking crisis but

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it's too early to see signs of banking

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cred the banking crisis that's true

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Jerome Powell gave a lot of I don't know

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answers yesterday a lot of I don't know

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if we're at a restrictive level of rates

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I don't know if inflation's coming down

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I don't know if the banking crisis has

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taken a hold yet a lot of I don't

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knowing yesterday again leading some

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people to believe that Jerome Powell's

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uh aggression potentially yesterday was

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maybe uh somewhat disingenuous and

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actually misplaced

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Powell and some colleagues had hinted at

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a potential compromise last month and

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which officials would forego a rate rise

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in June while leaving open the prospect

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of an increase in July a potential

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compromise hinted at last month

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interesting but recent economic data and

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hiring on inflation have been stronger

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than many forecasted forecasters

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anticipated this is true for hiring I

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wouldn't argue this was true for

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inflation inflation seems to have come

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in softer in the latest reports

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it's not clear what the criteria is

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they're looking for projections showed

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the 12 of the 18 officials think they

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will need to raise rates uh up to

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potentially 5.5 percent uh yeah that's

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true actually it was 16 of them rather

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uh projected uh a uh an increase to 5.25

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to 5.5 and 12 projected 5.5 to 5.75

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gives you a little bit more of a

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breakdown on the piece here

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another four officials projected they

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would need to all go up by only a

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quarter point exactly okay there's the

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fill in uh Powell has kept his committee

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United since inflation surged two years

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ago it's true every vote so far has been

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unanimous so uh that's the way uh

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somehow Jerome Powell is as they say

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corralling everyone

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I will be harder next time for them to

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raise rates than they realize says

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Richard Reinhardt a former senior fed

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Economist who is now an economist that

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derived this in melon uh you know this

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is actually something that Jeffrey

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gondlog billionaire uh investor also

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indicates and he's there he's very

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bearish right now he actually thinks

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people should be long bonds right now

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yeah he's anti the stock market broadly

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uh from just based on some of his

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commentary but uh his latest commentary

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yesterday suggests that the FED is done

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uh that a pause is in and uh that that

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you shouldn't be confused that this is a

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pause and the FED trying to signal

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hawkishness while in reality indicating

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they're done uh yesterday I did run a

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Twitter poll with about uh 3250 votes

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51.2 percent of y'all indicated the Fed

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was done however the other 48.8 percent

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of you indicated the FED had either a 25

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or 50 basis point hike left in them with

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that vote about split on how much

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the data probably will be a little bit

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more ambiguous their headline

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explanation is that they will know much

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more in six weeks but the fact is they

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won't know much more in six weeks

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chances are they'll be more confused in

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six weeks well that's why I think

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they'll probably end up pausing through

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to uh September the economy has shown

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only modest signs of cooling in recent

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months the share of workers voluntarily

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leaving jobs has returned closer to

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pre-pandemic levels suggesting that the

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tight labor market has eased a bit but

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steady hiring and wage gains could

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sustain elevated inflation although In

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fairness the FED did just throw in and

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Powell did briefly comment on it they

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did throw cold water on the idea that

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wage gains are certainly linked to

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higher inflation this is thanks to a

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Federal Reserve piece out of the bank of

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San Francisco where the feds indicated

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that hey maybe maybe there isn't as

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strong of a link between inflation and

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wages as we had previously thought it

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doesn't look like Nick T is choosing to

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talk about that at all housing market

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one of the sector's hardest hit by last

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year's rate increases has seen some

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improvements illustrating how difficult

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it has been for the FED to slow the

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economy and balance supply and demand

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true because there's no housing Supply

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so what do we take away from this well I

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think what we take away from this is

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well that of course Tomorrow there's an

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expiration of those programs on building

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your wealth all of those I mean look at

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all the different programs we have and

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they're phenomenal you've got the income

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side and the investing side a lot of

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people didn't realize by the way we had

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the property management and Rental

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Renovations course that's a very good

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one we've got uh someone with uh over 35

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years of property management experience

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joins me and that one really exciting

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real estate investing stocks obviously

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but all of these programs at the income

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course is getting a price increase uh

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tomorrow at 11 59 PM that's the 16th and

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that'll be part of the phase one of four

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phases of increases and that's as we're

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coming out with a large new lecture set

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at the end of these four phases but I

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guess my bottom line takeaway of this is

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look we expected the FED would have to

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talk dirty to us if they paused there

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was no way they were going to be able to

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pause and talk nice to us because that

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would just sustain a market rally and

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that's kind of not exactly conducive of

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of encouraging inflation down we talked

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about that we talked about the wealth

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effects beforehand we somewhat saw that

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I don't think anybody was expecting the

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FED to be this hawkish we were expecting

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a hawkish pause but not this hawkish

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however when we evaluate that well but

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wait a minute the summary of economic

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projections was actually submitted

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before this week's data it kind of makes

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you scratch your head and go

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what's the point of the summary of

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economic projections if you don't put it

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together when you have all the data it's

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a little frustrating and maybe that's

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why j-pal was actually frustrated

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yesterday maybe just maybe he was

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frustrated because he realized this data

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came in softer than expected yet he had

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to present this summary of economic

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projections that was uh more frustrating

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uh perhaps and unrelated to the latest

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data that we've actually received so

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we'll see but that's the latest that we

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have from the fed and now we're going to

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move on over to looking at the European

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Central Bank and their rate increase oh

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I suppose they could quickly also note

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on this we talked about this a little

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bit earlier in the Stream I figure I

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just show this quickly as well one last

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thing is this world interest rate

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probability chart right here is still

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indicating a bias towards potentially it

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pause keeping it a pause in July this

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5.25 level not being quite high enough

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to really indicate that push through but

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that push through does get priced in for

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another rain hike in the September and

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November meetings and as expected many

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economists now uh hunting their

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recession expectations that's something

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else we've been talking about for a few

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weeks now where we've said that Hey look

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it's highly likely

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economists are going to realize oh crap

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Q3 is only two weeks away I guess the

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recession won't come in Q3

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and sure enough that's exactly what

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we've been getting from economists and

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new analysts here's for example a piece

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here uh U.S economic economics we have

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revised our outlook for a delayed

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downturn and higher policy rates and

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push out our anticipated slowdown in the

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US economy by two quarters

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now out to uh basically uh the beginning

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well you know the end of the year rather

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than Q3 and potentially uh q1 uh so

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Morgan Stanley let's see what they have

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to say

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so a slight adjustment and a statement

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should not be ignored as expected the

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FED held the range of the FED funds

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right steady but we think this slight

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change in wording from in determining

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the extent to which additional firming

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may be appropriate to and determining

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the extent of which additional firming

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may be appropriate what's the difference

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there in determining the extent to which

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of which

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to which additional policy firming may

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be appropriate

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of which additional firming may be

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appropriate wow is the consensus of the

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committee uh keeping further policy

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moves in question despite a hawkish step

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oh this is interesting

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uh of additional policy firming to a

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traditional firm I I I'm personally I

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have a hard time breaking apart this one

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I think what they're trying to say is uh

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they're

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while maintaining a tightening bias in

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the statement

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is it consensus keeping further policy

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moves in question despite more hawkish

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I'm not exactly sure how to read this as

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expected the Fed

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held the range of the FED funds rate

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steady while maintaining a tightening

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bias in the statement but we think a

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slight changing in wording from those

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statements

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is the consensus on the committee

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keeping further moves in question

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despite a more hawkish SCP so what

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they're saying is they're trying to say

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hey that the statement

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and the SCP were hawkish so it's a

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little H there but that actual little

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change was dovish

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potentially putting in questions this

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just shows you that they have no

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freaking idea that's that's really the

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answer there in the sap we saw a move up

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to 5.6 from 5.3

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we vividly recall that upward revision

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to inflation projections despite data

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coming in line with the fed's March was

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most perplexing right I would agree with

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that moreover the upward Revision in the

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sap was paired with inflation risks that

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are still weighted to the upside yeah

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you said that like 30 times

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in relation to our forecasts we think

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this sets up core inflation to fall

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faster than the FED currently projects

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which should offset the takeaways from a

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higher Peak rate in the Dot Plot by the

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September meeting we believe core

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inflation projections for this year as

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well as the level of the fed's funds

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rate

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fed funds rate what

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just gonna cut off like that

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oh could get revised downward

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interesting that's actually interesting

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this is not the Mike Wilson Morgan

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Stanley camp this is your your other

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Camp inside Morgan Stanley and this is

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actually somewhat of a bullish and and

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dovish statement if anything

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uh Powell attempted to strike a balance

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between the fomc statement showed a more

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flexible data dependent consensus

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consensus

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uh nearly all committee participants

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expect that it will be appropriate to

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raise rates somewhat further by the end

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of the year and the July fomc meeting

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will be live he also underscored the Dot

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Plot shows no Cuts expected until 2024.

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I think as anyone can see not a single

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person on the committee wrote down a

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rate cut nor do I think it's at all

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appropriate at the same time there were

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more dovish comments emphasizing that

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these SCP projections are not a

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committee decision or plan the committee

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made this decision today only about this

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meeting we did not make a decision going

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forward it's true some more distancing

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there

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pause sets a higher Bar for a follow-up

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hike there's only one more jobs than CPI

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data print between June and July not

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enough data to paint a different picture

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of the economy

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we preliminarily expect true and

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payrolls to be over 200k but paired with

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moderation and core CPI

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uh let's see falling for a third

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straight month Powell emphasized the

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need to see more data we think that puts

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them more on Pace for a September hike

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see I agree with that I would lean

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towards September as well just to get

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enough data

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buying time basically right

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yeah all right so that's Morgan

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Stanley's take uh in the latest Outlook

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we continue to see a soft Landing for

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the economy and wage is slowly easing as

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well as job gains consistent with

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economic Outlook we expect the FED to

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hold the peak rate at 5.1 for an

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extended period before making the first

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25 basis point cut in March of 2024.

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okay then let's take a moment and jump

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on over to what JPM says and then we'll

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have seen Morgan Stanley Goldman and JPM

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they prepare jpms for us

17:48

here this is the one they're kicking the

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door in again

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oh these headlines

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all right

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Here Comes JPM

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here's the JPM report

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JPM the outcome of today's fomc meeting

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was hawkish and peculiar while the

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committee unanimously voted to leave

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rates unchanged a large majority of the

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fomc participants anticipated at least

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two more weight hikes this year and only

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two see the current setting as

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appropriate so why not hike today Powell

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said it was a continuation of slowing

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down the heights he tried not to tip his

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hand on July but given how many on his

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committee are inclined to hike multiple

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times this year it may be hard

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to get them to pause for more than one

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meeting as such We Now look for one more

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hike in July

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we continue to believe the lagged

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effects of freight hikes will weigh

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further on growth and don't believe the

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median 2 forecasts will be needed so

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nobody's really agreeing that the two

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forecasts is the right way to go

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since the decision to hold rates today

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was well signaled the real news was the

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dots particularly the dots suggesting

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the potential for going up to 5.625

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given these projections a recurring

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issue in the press conference was

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pausing when 12 of 18 participants see

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at least two more rate hikes in the last

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half of the year and four indicating one

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more

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one can speculate that a deal was struck

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between Hawks and doves to pause but

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strongly signal a future hike see I I

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agree with that in fact that's what Nick

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T suggested as well that there was some

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kind of deal that we're going to pause

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in June and uh and then they they

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purposefully went hot to try to paper

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signal another hike

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that's possible

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normally the post-medic statement isn't

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a detail but edits to today's statement

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were minor in reflect policy on hold

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rather than tightening

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um

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trust forecast of disinflation but

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rather need to see it happen right not

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trusting the forecast right he did

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Paladin mention the forecast wrong

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before yeah that's JPM

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okay so jpmc's July Morgan Stanley

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September uh Goldman seems to agree as

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well with with July and uh really seems

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like what you got is uh

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most people projecting at least one more

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hike

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I personally don't buy it because of the

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Soft Data but I suppose we'll see what

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happens over the next few days in data

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and we'll uh or a few weeks here and

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we'll see what happens uh next month but

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boy you know I think a lot of people

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were looking for clarity from this last

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meeting

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we did not get clarity from this last

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meeting we got more confusion

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