Massive Fed CONFUSION | Even NickiLeaks STUMPED!
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uh Elon just tweeted about uh Powell
being wrong uh about rates not getting
cut in the next couple years that's not
what he said oh that's not what he said
so uh there's been a lot of debate about
Jerome Powell making this argument that
the FED is not going to cut rates for
the next two years this is another
mainstream media argument that oh Powell
says he's not going to count rates for
two years problem is if you look in
context of the question that he received
Jerome Powell was asked about two-year
projections so he was answering about
two-year projections he was not saying
rates are not going to get cut for two
years that's not what he was saying if
you look at what he said out of context
that may seem like that's what he says
but what he actually did is he referred
to his formula again he referred to his
formula which his formula is take
inflation expectations at some level of
restrictiveness and that's what nominal
rates should be so if inflation
expectations as he told us last month or
three percent and you want rates to be
two percent in terms of where you want
you want real rates to be two percent
well then that means you need nominal
rates to be five percent well that's
where we are now five percent minus
inflation expectations one year out of
about three percent one to three years
now uh then you get to a a restrictive
real rate of two percent and Jerome
Powell in this response to you oh they
need to they're not going to cut rates
for two years in his response he's
talking specifically about two-year
projections and he actually made it
clear in his response that well look as
inflation Falls you're going to have to
adjust rates down to keep rates at a
restrictive level that's equal to what
it has been because if you don't reduce
rates you're actually increasing rates
by not reducing rates that's what he
said however a lot of people were very
very confused by Jerome Powell's
response because he was responding to a
question specifically about uh this uh
you know two-year projection and I think
that really skewed people's
understanding of what he meant with no
cut for two years so
yeah I want to I want to add some good
clarity about that Jerome Powell did not
say they would not cut for two years he
did say they would not cut this year but
that's okay the bond Market's already
priced that in but there's no cuts for
two years it literally defies the very
definition he gave in the response and
the Very definition he gave last month
so no that that that's a fundamental out
of context misunderstanding of what
Jerome Powell suggests take a look at
what Nick T has to say in the Wall
Street Journal of this morning uh he got
a little schooled by j-pal yesterday or
at least that's how social media uh
picked it up when uh Nick T was asking
about the pace versus the level of hikes
and Jerome Powell made it clear that uh
there's there's a big difference versus
pace and the reason they pause is
because now they can focus on staying at
a level for a very long time so we'll go
through what Nick T here together says
however it's worth noting a few things
as we go into Nick T's piece first of
all Bloomberg is running headlines that
the FED is indicating at least two more
rate high likes or that Powell is I
don't think Powell was doing that at all
but the summary of economic projections
was obviously the summary of economic
projections coming in hot at 5.6 the
worth noting very good point that the
summary of economic projections came out
on Friday or was submitted by members on
Friday which is before both CPI and PPI
data despite this though markets are
read with a 71 percent chance of a hike
on July 26th and by July or by September
20th we're looking at a cumulative about
a 77 percent chance of at least one hike
if not two so let's take a listen here
to what uh Nick T says also keep in mind
that Richard Clarita this morning did
indicate that maybe only one more raid
hike uh would uh would be expected and
that two would be a bit aggressive and
so we'll see uh there's a lot of talk
that the FED is actually closer to being
being done then where they uh then where
people might think that they need to go
uh and that would apply maybe one more
rate hike but let's see a Nick T's piece
here so beneficials agree to hold rates
steady after 10 consecutive Heights the
new summary of economic projections
after their two-day meeting suggested
they were leaning towards slowing down
their increases versus stopping them all
together most of them penciled in two
more rate increases this year which
would lift them to a 22-year high they
really needed to hammer home the message
that this was not the end which they did
and this was something that we had all
suspected that is the Fed really
actually thinking about raising rates
two more times or are they just trying
to indicate some messaging to the market
that hey man don't don't think this is a
pause let's let's go a little strong
then and indicate or prove to markets
that this isn't a pause and let's send
them a signal even if we don't believe
it that this is just a uh you know a
temporary skip you know we even had
Jerome Powell will slip up and mention
the word skip once and then uh Retreat
and say oh well I shouldn't call it a
skip oh so have you been talking about
it being a skip anyway it's supposed to
be excitement the FED implied the
decision to maintain Benchmark fed funds
rate uh would be at the level where it
is now would be short-lived after
holding the FED funds rate near zero
following the pandemic the FED is raised
okay we know the history of it yeah we
want to get some more future leaks here
Nikki leaks we don't need a history
lesson here Wednesday's decision not to
raise rates is a continuation of that
process at j-pal common sense to go a
little bit slower yes officials had
signaled growing disagreement in recent
weeks over whether to keep raising rates
some officials became more doubtful at
March because of the banking crisis but
it's too early to see signs of banking
cred the banking crisis that's true
Jerome Powell gave a lot of I don't know
answers yesterday a lot of I don't know
if we're at a restrictive level of rates
I don't know if inflation's coming down
I don't know if the banking crisis has
taken a hold yet a lot of I don't
knowing yesterday again leading some
people to believe that Jerome Powell's
uh aggression potentially yesterday was
maybe uh somewhat disingenuous and
actually misplaced
Powell and some colleagues had hinted at
a potential compromise last month and
which officials would forego a rate rise
in June while leaving open the prospect
of an increase in July a potential
compromise hinted at last month
interesting but recent economic data and
hiring on inflation have been stronger
than many forecasted forecasters
anticipated this is true for hiring I
wouldn't argue this was true for
inflation inflation seems to have come
in softer in the latest reports
it's not clear what the criteria is
they're looking for projections showed
the 12 of the 18 officials think they
will need to raise rates uh up to
potentially 5.5 percent uh yeah that's
true actually it was 16 of them rather
uh projected uh a uh an increase to 5.25
to 5.5 and 12 projected 5.5 to 5.75
gives you a little bit more of a
breakdown on the piece here
another four officials projected they
would need to all go up by only a
quarter point exactly okay there's the
fill in uh Powell has kept his committee
United since inflation surged two years
ago it's true every vote so far has been
unanimous so uh that's the way uh
somehow Jerome Powell is as they say
corralling everyone
I will be harder next time for them to
raise rates than they realize says
Richard Reinhardt a former senior fed
Economist who is now an economist that
derived this in melon uh you know this
is actually something that Jeffrey
gondlog billionaire uh investor also
indicates and he's there he's very
bearish right now he actually thinks
people should be long bonds right now
yeah he's anti the stock market broadly
uh from just based on some of his
commentary but uh his latest commentary
yesterday suggests that the FED is done
uh that a pause is in and uh that that
you shouldn't be confused that this is a
pause and the FED trying to signal
hawkishness while in reality indicating
they're done uh yesterday I did run a
Twitter poll with about uh 3250 votes
51.2 percent of y'all indicated the Fed
was done however the other 48.8 percent
of you indicated the FED had either a 25
or 50 basis point hike left in them with
that vote about split on how much
the data probably will be a little bit
more ambiguous their headline
explanation is that they will know much
more in six weeks but the fact is they
won't know much more in six weeks
chances are they'll be more confused in
six weeks well that's why I think
they'll probably end up pausing through
to uh September the economy has shown
only modest signs of cooling in recent
months the share of workers voluntarily
leaving jobs has returned closer to
pre-pandemic levels suggesting that the
tight labor market has eased a bit but
steady hiring and wage gains could
sustain elevated inflation although In
fairness the FED did just throw in and
Powell did briefly comment on it they
did throw cold water on the idea that
wage gains are certainly linked to
higher inflation this is thanks to a
Federal Reserve piece out of the bank of
San Francisco where the feds indicated
that hey maybe maybe there isn't as
strong of a link between inflation and
wages as we had previously thought it
doesn't look like Nick T is choosing to
talk about that at all housing market
one of the sector's hardest hit by last
year's rate increases has seen some
improvements illustrating how difficult
it has been for the FED to slow the
economy and balance supply and demand
true because there's no housing Supply
so what do we take away from this well I
think what we take away from this is
well that of course Tomorrow there's an
expiration of those programs on building
your wealth all of those I mean look at
all the different programs we have and
they're phenomenal you've got the income
side and the investing side a lot of
people didn't realize by the way we had
the property management and Rental
Renovations course that's a very good
one we've got uh someone with uh over 35
years of property management experience
joins me and that one really exciting
real estate investing stocks obviously
but all of these programs at the income
course is getting a price increase uh
tomorrow at 11 59 PM that's the 16th and
that'll be part of the phase one of four
phases of increases and that's as we're
coming out with a large new lecture set
at the end of these four phases but I
guess my bottom line takeaway of this is
look we expected the FED would have to
talk dirty to us if they paused there
was no way they were going to be able to
pause and talk nice to us because that
would just sustain a market rally and
that's kind of not exactly conducive of
of encouraging inflation down we talked
about that we talked about the wealth
effects beforehand we somewhat saw that
I don't think anybody was expecting the
FED to be this hawkish we were expecting
a hawkish pause but not this hawkish
however when we evaluate that well but
wait a minute the summary of economic
projections was actually submitted
before this week's data it kind of makes
you scratch your head and go
what's the point of the summary of
economic projections if you don't put it
together when you have all the data it's
a little frustrating and maybe that's
why j-pal was actually frustrated
yesterday maybe just maybe he was
frustrated because he realized this data
came in softer than expected yet he had
to present this summary of economic
projections that was uh more frustrating
uh perhaps and unrelated to the latest
data that we've actually received so
we'll see but that's the latest that we
have from the fed and now we're going to
move on over to looking at the European
Central Bank and their rate increase oh
I suppose they could quickly also note
on this we talked about this a little
bit earlier in the Stream I figure I
just show this quickly as well one last
thing is this world interest rate
probability chart right here is still
indicating a bias towards potentially it
pause keeping it a pause in July this
5.25 level not being quite high enough
to really indicate that push through but
that push through does get priced in for
another rain hike in the September and
November meetings and as expected many
economists now uh hunting their
recession expectations that's something
else we've been talking about for a few
weeks now where we've said that Hey look
it's highly likely
economists are going to realize oh crap
Q3 is only two weeks away I guess the
recession won't come in Q3
and sure enough that's exactly what
we've been getting from economists and
new analysts here's for example a piece
here uh U.S economic economics we have
revised our outlook for a delayed
downturn and higher policy rates and
push out our anticipated slowdown in the
US economy by two quarters
now out to uh basically uh the beginning
well you know the end of the year rather
than Q3 and potentially uh q1 uh so
Morgan Stanley let's see what they have
to say
so a slight adjustment and a statement
should not be ignored as expected the
FED held the range of the FED funds
right steady but we think this slight
change in wording from in determining
the extent to which additional firming
may be appropriate to and determining
the extent of which additional firming
may be appropriate what's the difference
there in determining the extent to which
of which
to which additional policy firming may
be appropriate
of which additional firming may be
appropriate wow is the consensus of the
committee uh keeping further policy
moves in question despite a hawkish step
oh this is interesting
uh of additional policy firming to a
traditional firm I I I'm personally I
have a hard time breaking apart this one
I think what they're trying to say is uh
they're
while maintaining a tightening bias in
the statement
is it consensus keeping further policy
moves in question despite more hawkish
I'm not exactly sure how to read this as
expected the Fed
held the range of the FED funds rate
steady while maintaining a tightening
bias in the statement but we think a
slight changing in wording from those
statements
is the consensus on the committee
keeping further moves in question
despite a more hawkish SCP so what
they're saying is they're trying to say
hey that the statement
and the SCP were hawkish so it's a
little H there but that actual little
change was dovish
potentially putting in questions this
just shows you that they have no
freaking idea that's that's really the
answer there in the sap we saw a move up
to 5.6 from 5.3
we vividly recall that upward revision
to inflation projections despite data
coming in line with the fed's March was
most perplexing right I would agree with
that moreover the upward Revision in the
sap was paired with inflation risks that
are still weighted to the upside yeah
you said that like 30 times
in relation to our forecasts we think
this sets up core inflation to fall
faster than the FED currently projects
which should offset the takeaways from a
higher Peak rate in the Dot Plot by the
September meeting we believe core
inflation projections for this year as
well as the level of the fed's funds
rate
fed funds rate what
just gonna cut off like that
oh could get revised downward
interesting that's actually interesting
this is not the Mike Wilson Morgan
Stanley camp this is your your other
Camp inside Morgan Stanley and this is
actually somewhat of a bullish and and
dovish statement if anything
uh Powell attempted to strike a balance
between the fomc statement showed a more
flexible data dependent consensus
consensus
uh nearly all committee participants
expect that it will be appropriate to
raise rates somewhat further by the end
of the year and the July fomc meeting
will be live he also underscored the Dot
Plot shows no Cuts expected until 2024.
I think as anyone can see not a single
person on the committee wrote down a
rate cut nor do I think it's at all
appropriate at the same time there were
more dovish comments emphasizing that
these SCP projections are not a
committee decision or plan the committee
made this decision today only about this
meeting we did not make a decision going
forward it's true some more distancing
there
pause sets a higher Bar for a follow-up
hike there's only one more jobs than CPI
data print between June and July not
enough data to paint a different picture
of the economy
we preliminarily expect true and
payrolls to be over 200k but paired with
moderation and core CPI
uh let's see falling for a third
straight month Powell emphasized the
need to see more data we think that puts
them more on Pace for a September hike
see I agree with that I would lean
towards September as well just to get
enough data
buying time basically right
yeah all right so that's Morgan
Stanley's take uh in the latest Outlook
we continue to see a soft Landing for
the economy and wage is slowly easing as
well as job gains consistent with
economic Outlook we expect the FED to
hold the peak rate at 5.1 for an
extended period before making the first
25 basis point cut in March of 2024.
okay then let's take a moment and jump
on over to what JPM says and then we'll
have seen Morgan Stanley Goldman and JPM
they prepare jpms for us
here this is the one they're kicking the
door in again
oh these headlines
all right
Here Comes JPM
here's the JPM report
JPM the outcome of today's fomc meeting
was hawkish and peculiar while the
committee unanimously voted to leave
rates unchanged a large majority of the
fomc participants anticipated at least
two more weight hikes this year and only
two see the current setting as
appropriate so why not hike today Powell
said it was a continuation of slowing
down the heights he tried not to tip his
hand on July but given how many on his
committee are inclined to hike multiple
times this year it may be hard
to get them to pause for more than one
meeting as such We Now look for one more
hike in July
we continue to believe the lagged
effects of freight hikes will weigh
further on growth and don't believe the
median 2 forecasts will be needed so
nobody's really agreeing that the two
forecasts is the right way to go
since the decision to hold rates today
was well signaled the real news was the
dots particularly the dots suggesting
the potential for going up to 5.625
given these projections a recurring
issue in the press conference was
pausing when 12 of 18 participants see
at least two more rate hikes in the last
half of the year and four indicating one
more
one can speculate that a deal was struck
between Hawks and doves to pause but
strongly signal a future hike see I I
agree with that in fact that's what Nick
T suggested as well that there was some
kind of deal that we're going to pause
in June and uh and then they they
purposefully went hot to try to paper
signal another hike
that's possible
normally the post-medic statement isn't
a detail but edits to today's statement
were minor in reflect policy on hold
rather than tightening
um
trust forecast of disinflation but
rather need to see it happen right not
trusting the forecast right he did
Paladin mention the forecast wrong
before yeah that's JPM
okay so jpmc's July Morgan Stanley
September uh Goldman seems to agree as
well with with July and uh really seems
like what you got is uh
most people projecting at least one more
hike
I personally don't buy it because of the
Soft Data but I suppose we'll see what
happens over the next few days in data
and we'll uh or a few weeks here and
we'll see what happens uh next month but
boy you know I think a lot of people
were looking for clarity from this last
meeting
we did not get clarity from this last
meeting we got more confusion
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