The Danger of Elon Musk's "TruthGPT" | Tucker Carlson.
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now we got a touch on Elon musk's desire
to Star a truth a GPT now Elon just
launched a LLC or company and is
potentially looking to raise money from
shareholders called x dot a i and
shareholders would probably be private
venture-backed shareholders who are
already shareholders in companies like
Tesla and Twitter so not something we'd
publicly be able to invest in but a lot
of this is inspired by Elon musk's
frustration with openai turning into
really a for-profit rather than being a
non-profit especially since he helped
start open Ai and there's a lot of drama
around hey wait a minute what is a
truthful Ai and why does it matter well
we'll listen to a clip here from Elon
Musk in just a moment but I want to
start by pointing out this uh this
community notes response that Elon Musk
had following one of his tweets and so
Elon Musk tweeted the fall following he
said NPR literally said Federal funding
is essential to public radio on their
own website now taking down what
Hypocrites now I believe you could
actually still find this NPR Federal
funding item on their website they're
pretty transparent about their funding
sources but it is a little confusing to
break apart because some parts they like
to say oh well in some years we average
one percent from federal organizations
and then the reality is they're kind of
like misdefining exactly where some of
the money comes from and really a lot of
this is blowing up right now because
companies like NPR are basically getting
notes put under uh of their uh their
actual Twitter tags showing that uh hey
they are
backed by the government for example
here you have NPR has a tag government
funded Media or another one that's
pretty funny that came up yesterday was
the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation if
you go to just at CBC they uh they argue
they were less than 70 percent funded by
the government so Elon Musk helped label
them as 69
government-funded media
which on one hand is pretty dang funny
on the other hand makes you wonder wait
a second whose truth really goes into
this information and that does create
some potential problems because for
example here is a community notes
response to this that says at the time
of this tweet there we go at the time of
this tweet NPR's website dedicated to
their finances still claim that Federal
funding is essential so Elon Musk
actually got community noted on this so
it's not taken down NPR is still
claiming that Federal funding is
essential to the public radio service to
the American public
now what I reply to with this because
it's been such a big deal is I replied
uh when I can find my reply I think I
have to press back twice him I replied
it said unbelievable that Community
notes left out the percent of funding
and I said I lost some respect for
Community notes now if you weren't part
of the big debate around this that might
seem extreme hey Community notes is just
comparing or just suggesting that Hey
look it's still essential right we're
just fixing that item from Elon musk's
tweet and that's fair but all of this is
based on a massive debate on Twitter
about what percentage of NPR's funding
is from the government is it one percent
is it ten percent is it 15 and in my
opinion if Community notes is going to
come in and talk about this Federal
funding you have to also talk about the
percentage because even though NPR
suggests that they're funding their
government funding is essential you have
to remember what the word essential
means and it's something that nobody on
Twitter is talking about and the reason
this is important is because of
congressional Appropriations see that is
the most important thing that is
on Twitter and that's pretty common
because we're generally trying to look
for the most emotional responses to hate
or support people and it's really sad
how frustrated people are on Twitter I
really feel like everybody if if people
on Twitter were walking around they'd
all be walking around like this their
hands on their hips and with just like a
big scowl like hmm yeah I support that
but you're an if that's really
what Twitter feels like and to me it's a
cesspool it's disgusting because
nobody's really trying to delve into
truth instead you're getting this war
and so I think it's ironic that Elon
Musk is trying to create truth a truth
GPT when actually what you're seeing on
Twitter is very much a fostering of
divisiveness now there's this idea that
well maybe people should be able to
speak freely but really what you're
doing is you're creating Echo Chambers
and even Community notes isn't helping
with that Echo chamber problem if
anything it often feels like it leans
more towards just supporting Elon
overall in his arguments because again
it whether or not Elon was Community
noted for saying oh they took it down
from their website that's not the part
that matters the part that actually
matters the next level part that matters
is well is Government funding for NPR
essential but why does that word
essential really matter well calling
something essential is more important
than actually deciding whether or not
that quote-unquote essential funding
actually dictates how NPR's news
coverage is created or dispersed or if
there is independent journalism calling
something essential is critical because
when you look at Congressional
Appropriations
Congress wants to appropriate money to
where things are needed in the
impression of the other companies right
and so this in my opinion is where NPR
is like well we don't really want to
lose that Federal funding even though
they could probably make up some of
their Federal funding from other sources
or potentially all of it I think it's a
lot easier for them to say hey Congress
we're essential don't take our money
away now that's my opinion it could be
wrong right it's entirely possible yes
the money is actually essential but I
know what NPR does their membership
drives and they talk about their
basically expiring coupon code like I do
because we're having a big price
increase tomorrow on 420 at the end of
the day at 11 59 we're getting rid of
some of the lower bondwell options we're
getting rid of some of the lower priced
uh courses we're raising the prices
we're changing things completely so if
you want to lock in the lowest price
jump in but just like people say Hey you
know I don't want to hear about the
coupon code all the time you don't want
to hear about the fall membership drive
at NPR All NPR all the time but that's
what they do to raise money so they
could stay in business and actually
provide value to their constituents
right and so in my opinion this
definition of essential goes to
Congressional Appropriations and it's
basically a way saying look it's easier
for just us to just take some of that
money from Congress and then not cut us
out now then that does make you wonder
is NPR impartial because of that maybe
personally this video isn't designed to
defend or support NPR I actually
personally like listening to NPR but
that doesn't mean I I agree with
everything they say just like when I
listen to the English paper the
economists they lean super far left and
they hate Donald Trump do I listen and
believe everything they say no of course
not but I use it as inspiration to fact
check that's the same thing that you
should do as well so you can make up
your own opinion but my argument is that
hey if we really want to get to the
bottom of Truth in social media then we
have to provide context to the entire
discussion not just one tweet and this
was a missed Opportunity by Community
notes where Community notes could have
very simply broken down the debate hey
in 2010 NPR's funding was this in 2010
through 2023 the funding was this XYZ
it's all public Community notes could
have easily broken that down but instead
it seemed more interested in saying no
no it's essential which is basically
taking the side of Elon even though it
was a note against Elon is taking it
aside of Elon and the Elon fans on
Twitter rather than actually adding more
detailed support to the debate so I
question elon's calls for the greatest
truth GT GPT because I don't think
Community notes is doing the best job
yet I think it's useful it's going in
the right direction but it has some work
to do and it all is in response to this
Tucker Carlson piece with Elon Musk
let's listen to this and see what Elon
has to say
and it's not playing quite fun there we
go to a success of uh open AI uh it was
I I I put a trans amount of effort into
recruiting Ilia and he changed his mind
a few times ultimately decided to go
with the opening high but if he'd not
gone without any opening I would not
have succeeded I really put a lot a lot
of effort into creating this this
organization to serve as a counterweight
to Google and then I kind of took my off
the ball I guess and uh
they are now closed Source
um and
they are obviously for-profit and
they're
closely allied with Microsoft uh you
know in effect Microsoft uh
has a very strong say if not
um
directly controls uh openai at this
point so you really have an open-end
Microsoft situation and then at Google
deepmind uh other two sort of
heavyweights in this Arena
so it seems like the world needs a third
option
yes
so I I I think I will
create a third option although I was
starting very late in the game of course
can it be done I don't know I think it's
we'll see it's uh
certainly starting late
um
but I will I will I'll try to create a
third option
um and that third option hopefully does
more more good than harm uh like the
intention with opening eye was obviously
to do good but it's not clear whether
it's actually doing good or whether it's
I can't tell at this point except that
I'm worried about the fact that uh it's
been it's being trained to be
politically correct which is simply
another way of of being on Truth saying
untruthful things yes so that's that's a
bad sign
there's certainly a path to AI dystopia
is to train an AI to be deceptive so
yeah I'm going to start something which
you call truth gbt or
a maximum truth seeking AI
that tries to understand the nature of
the universe and I think this this might
be the best path to Safety in the sense
that an AI that cares about
understanding the universe uh it is
unlikely to annihilate humans because we
are an interesting part of the universe
uh hopefully they would think about it I
I think you know because yeah like like
we like Humanity could
um decide to hunt down all the
chimpanzees and kill them but we don't
yeah and so they go into this argument
that a like hopefully you could create
something that cares up most about the
truth that then doesn't want to destroy
all the other organisms that exist just
like we don't destroy whales or
chimpanzees or otherwise now later in
this interview Elon Musk talks about how
social media often comes it turns into
the Cesspool where everybody's fighting
for clicks and then you have this
argument of everybody's trying to fight
about how the other Clan hates the other
person rather than focusing on getting
to the truth or getting to food right
and that's very much unfortunately what
I think elon's Community notes can
sometimes actually contribute to is this
divisiveness see for example here's a
comma term and I appreciate you saying
this Kevin I'm a member of community
notes and rated that tweet direct
funding is different year by year and
indirect funding also fed funds is given
by different organizations yearly our
goal wasn't an itemized audit I
understand that your goal might not have
been an itemized audit my argument is
that it should have been and here is why
I say that because if Elon Musk wants to
create something that is looking for the
utmost truth if the answer is truth then
what we need is data and instead of
analyzing data or providing data in this
case Community notes simply provided
one minor argument in a larger debate
that reiterated one side you have to
think about that Community notes
reiterating that NPR is still saying
funding is essential is taking one side
of the debate think about that when we
draw this out like this if on one side
you have NPR is gov Shale right and then
on the right side you have
NPR is independent
okay
they're independent whatever
so on one side you have NPR's
independent on the other side you have
NPR as a is a government chill
in order to get to the maximum level of
Truth which is a goal that Community
notes is trying to do it shouldn't
Simply Be Community noting something
that actually reiterates that's it NPR
is a government chill that's what
community notes did it it made a
correction In fairness it made a
correction but by making that correction
and not stepping into the rest of the
debate to actually remain neutral it de
facto chose a side and it happened to be
the side that Elon Musk was on and that
is scary
so I know it might seem extreme but the
reality is if elon's going to be trusted
with a truth GT GPT which anybody can
create whatever they want then you
should also do your best to help settle
disputes if you're a member of community
notes by providing as much data as
possible even if you have a little
preface that says hey government like it
could be as simple as there's a debate
going around on NPR here's the reality a
NPR still says it's government uh or or
government funding is still essential
but here are more details on the debate
NPR's average funding has been eight
percent from government sources and PR
says they're independent uh Elon Musk is
debating creating a threshold for at
what point of government funding a
business should be deemed government
supported and then that should equally
apply to other businesses if certain
media businesses are eight percent
funded by the government then maybe if n
phase is 10 8 supported by the
government it should be considered a
government supported Enterprise as well
or Tesla
so that should apply equally and so
really I'm not here to Shell NPR or Elon
I'm probably taking the most unpopular
opinion which is again trying to be in
the middle but the reality is if you
don't fully extinguish the debate and
you just take us uh one side then
Community notes actually looks like it's
partisan all of a sudden Community notes
looks like it's just a bunch of Elon
shills doing something to support Elon
Musk even though they were correcting
Elon
they still took us that side of the
greater debate Elon doesn't care about
being corrected if anything and this is
the Sinister way to look at it Elon
could have purposefully made the mistake
on his tweet to purposefully be
Community noted and then have Community
notes reiterate his basic argument that
NPR is the government shell
that's touchy that's touchy uh uh so I
don't disagree Kevin but the point of
community notes is context to a specific
claim not the larger argument
that's a very fair Counterpoint uh I
agree with you
I would take it a step further though
and say if if the broad goal is to
maximize truth
than if somebody inputs an argument they
should get both sides right like for
example
if I put into truth GPT and say uh is
Donald Trump racist and it just says no
or yes whatever it says right and then
give me an example of Donald Trump being
racist and it's like here's an example
where Donald Trump you know said
something about a black person whatever
right
uh and then you're like give me an
example of where Donald Trump said
something about a white person it does
fine
in such an example in theory it would be
useful for the truth GPT to also go hey
look you asked for this but just keep in
mind here's a whole host of data and
information that suggests that yes out
of context one of those comments may
have been made but in aggregate
so-and-so is likely not racist or likely
racist because if we create a binary
world that is you're either for me or
against me then we have a disastrous
world and that's really what I'm
exemplifying here you're creating you're
creating a one side versus the other
side but humanity is is much more
complex than that and humanity is is
what I call a gradient right this is
what you have you have a gradient and so
you have people at various different
elements you have people over here on
the left you have people over here on
the right and the more you are to these
these edges the more extremes you have
the vast majority of people I would
imagine rest over here and and these
people this is probably 80 percent right
here they deserve both sides of the
argument not just one and unfortunately
that Community known example was
providing just one piece of data which
reiterates just one side of the spectrum
and it doesn't even provide the
suggestion like a button that's like hey
if you want more of our opinion on the
or like the community notes view of this
debate click here
well then again you're not actually
leading the world to realize there's
more truth to be had than just one
little correction so again by making one
correction and not others you're de
facto taking a silence a problem so that
is uh my advice to maybe uh the truth
GPT folks if uh if there should ever
become a truth GPT and that is my take
on Elon Musk and Truth GPT people like
oh Kevin's always an Elon and Tesla
shield no I I personally try to look for
truth as well and that doesn't mean I'm
perfect but I really try even if it's
unpopular to do I really try to look for
what's the middle of the road what are
both sides of the argument because
reality is I think most people eighty
percent of people
serve both sides
I mean really everybody does but some
people won't want to hear it cheers
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