Democrats utterly humiliate themselves ‘complaining’ about history changing operation
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This is Power Hour with Gabriella Power.
>> Hello and welcome to Power Hour. I'm
Gabriella Power. Thank you for joining
us. As we speak, America and Israel are
carrying out this history changing
mission in Iran. And God bless the brave
service men and women risking their
lives doing the heavy lifting for the
free world in a strategic, brilliantly
planned and executed operation, ensuring
that radicals can no longer threaten the
world. Yet so-called friends of America.
Well, some have made it clear that
they're in no rush to help. UK Prime
Minister Kia Starmmer, he had a choice
to back the US and say yes to their
request to use uh their air bases. But
Stala is so spineless. He said, "No,
I'll get back to you." So he could wait,
get some legal advice, make himself a
cup of tea, hold a very boring press
conference. While Americans and Israelis
have been risking their lives, taking
out the head of the world's largest
sponsor of terror. It was only after
days and days that Karmama actually came
round to the idea of helping that oh
actually actually America you can use
the UK's bases while carrying out this
worldchanging operation in the Middle
East. President Donald Trump he has
rightly unleashed on Kristama.
>> By the way I'm not happy with the UK
either u that island that you read about
the lease. Okay. He made it for whatever
reason he made a lease of the island.
Somebody came and took it away from him
and it's taken 3 4 days for us to work
out where we can land there. It would
have been much more convenient landing
there as opposed to flying many extra
hours. So we are very surprised. This is
not Winston Churchill that we're dealing
with.
>> Wow. Just on Star for a minute. His days
in the top job are of course numbered
and those days they cannot come soon
enough. When you look at the damage that
he's doing to Britain. I mean the
migrant crisis is beyond a joke. The
crime is out of control in London. The
top tax bracket income earners. They're
fleeing in record numbers. And all
Starmer is doing is sitting back in no
rush, damaging Britain's most important
relationships and making the UK
irrelevant. And all the people in
Britain, well, they know this. There's a
reason they're leaving. There's a reason
that Nigel Faraj's Reform UK party is
well ahead in the polls, and it has been
for some time. Just today, the latest
Yuggov poll found that Star's Labour
party is on a record low of 16%. I mean,
last year it had dropped to 17%, but
congratulations to Kama, he's managed to
drop it even lower. Just looking at some
of Karma's messaging, he posted this on
X. I know the situation in the Middle
East is worrying for British people and
in the region and at home, and it's my
duty as prime minister to keep British
people safe, and I'll be answering
questions on the steps we took over the
weekend in Parliament. No one wants to
hear from him. Just looking at some of
the responses, some of the comments that
he's been attracting, he's getting
ripped apart. Here's one comment from
Alex Armstrong from GB News. He wrote,
"Why are you allowing the Islamist
regime to bomb our bases and do
absolutely nothing about it? Never has
there been such cowardly inaction in the
face of threats by a terrorist regime."
Another journalist, Lee Harris, wrote,
"You're weak. You're pathetic. You're a
coward. You betrayed the Americans.
You're a global embarrassment and you
should be arrested for treason. Just
resign, you vile man." And there are
thousands and thousands of comments and
I'm yet to find just on my very quick
look this morning any that are positive.
I mean mostly what I could see a post
just calling him what we just heard a
coward very weak. Now while Operation
Epic Fury is underway, Spain's far-left
government, well doesn't want to help
the US out either, saying no to
America's request to use its military
bases. So, President Trump, he's
announced that he'll be cutting off all
trade with Spain. I
>> mean, like Spain has been terrible. In
fact, I told uh Scott to cut off all
dealings with Spain. Spain first of all,
it started when every every European
nation at my request paid 5% which they
should be doing and everybody was
enthusiastic about it, Germany,
everybody. And Spain didn't do it. And
now Spain uh actually said that we can't
use their bases. And that's all right.
We don't we could use their base if we
want. We could just fly in and use it.
Nobody's going to tell us not to use it,
but we don't have to. But they were
unfriendly.
And so I told him, "We don't want to.
Spain has absolutely nothing that we
need other than great people. They have
great people, but they don't have great
leadership." And as you know, they were
the only country that in NATO would not
agree to go up to 5%. I don't think they
wanted agreed to go up to anything. They
wanted to keep it at 2% and they don't
pay the 2%. So we we're going to cut off
all trade with Spain. We don't want
anything to do with Spain.
>> Isn't it great to have a real leader in
the White House again? I mean, imagine
Joe Biden and Kamla Harris. I think I'm
traumatized from the years of listening
to those two. But President Trump, the
real leader of the free world, as we've
been reporting over the last couple of
days, while this operation, Operation
Epic Fury, has been in full swing, the
Democrats have been making fools of
themselves, shouting, screaming, all
against this, essentially rooting for
this opposite, uh, this operation
rather, to fail. Here's House Minority
Leader Hakee Jeff. The American people
want us to focus on making their life
better, making their life more
affordable, not getting involved in
another endless war in the Middle East
that is going to end in failure.
>> Going to end in failure.
I mean, I don't know if I've ever seen
the Democrats this pathetic. So many of
them, Hakee Jeff, AOC, Kla Harris, all
complaining while America is changing
the world. Except of course for John
Fedman.
>> And it's more just now because of that
what this happens. You don't have to
agree on everything. But it's like yes,
I'm the only Democrat cuz I'm not afraid
of my base to just say, you know what,
this wasn't overall a good thing. You
don't have to agree on everything. So
I'm going to be honest. So like, why
can't you just acknowledge that one of
the most evil people on the face of the
earth was was erased? That's that's a
good thing.
That's a good thing. I mean, some common
sense right there. If only it wasn't so
rare. Now, while the Democrats say
they've been embarrassing themselves, so
is the leftist media. I mean, we've seen
so many meltdowns. We played a few of
them on the show yesterday. But what has
also been insane to see is this fake
news narrative around why the US and
Israel launched this operation. Now, all
these questions as if this hadn't been
coming. I mean, we have been covering
this for months, guys. Donald Trump said
back in January to the people of Iran
that help is on its way. It has arrived.
We've seen warships. They've been making
their way to the Middle East. Steve Whit
last week on television said that
essentially Iran was getting straight
back to work to restore its nuclear
capabilities and it's getting dangerous.
We've been told and we know the US has
been working so closely with Israel and
their intelligence to know exactly when
to know that when exactly to strike I
should say to take out the Iranian
leadership in a daylight operation. It
was incredible and now the media are
pretending to be surprised by the
timing. I mean the question has been
really since the start of the year is
when is the US going to strike? We we
know that it's been so close and now
these close rather now these journalists
are shouting these gotcha questions to
the Trump administration as if America
carrying out one of the most high-risk
and consequential operations ever was
somehow not their call.
>> Listen, let me explain to you guys this
in simple English, okay? Iran is run by
lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics.
They have an ambition to have nuclear
weapons. They intend to develop those
nuclear weapons behind a program of
missiles and drones and terrorism that
the world will not be able to touch them
for fear of those things. And this is
the weakest they've ever been. Now is
the time to go after them. The president
made the decision to go after them. Take
away their missiles. Take away their
navy. Take away their drones. Take away
their ability to make those things so
that they can never have a nuclear
weapon. That's why the president made
this decision. It was the right
decision. And the world will be a safer
place when these radical clerics no
longer have access to these weapons. You
see how they're using them now? Imagine
how they would use them a year from now
if they had more of these.
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Joining us now is political analyst,
Professor Joe Sakraza. Joe Srausa, thank
you so much for your time. Well,
President Donald Trump has hit out at
his British counterpart, Saki Starmer.
And let's listen to this again.
>> By the way, I'm not happy with the UK
either. U that island that you read
about the lease, okay? He made for
whatever reason, he made a lease of the
island. Somebody came and took it away
from him and it's taken
three four days for us to work out where
we can land there. It would have been
much more convenient landing there as
opposed to flying many extra hours. So,
we are very surprised. This is not
Winston Churchill that we're dealing
with.
>> Joe Syracus, what do you make of that? I
mean, is Trump right and and how
damaging is this for the UK?
>> Uh, good good morning, Gabriella. Well,
yeah, it is fairly damaging. Look,
President Trump counts on his his
allies, his NATO allies especially, to
come to the party. He expects them to uh
make their facilities available to uh
American forces, particularly at a time
that he deems very important. It's quite
clear that Stammer and his government is
not not exactly behind the president on
this. They're trying to wiggle a little
bit saying that u you know they will
defend Cyprus and things like that but
uh the president is holding his allies
to to a high standard here. If the
United States is going into combat he
expects them to step in behind them. Now
Lyndon Johnson expected the same thing
when he went into Vietnam. He didn't get
a single NATO ally who volunteered. In
fact they stayed clear of him. So, you
know, I've seen this story before and um
you know, NATO, these European nations,
they have a very strong tradition of
socialist governments and um centrist
government, center left and all the rest
of it. And they're they're not buying um
President Trump's story about the u the
imminent danger to the United States. Uh
it's, you know, it's it's a hard sell
for some of these people and they just
um they're starting to think that there
may be a future without the United
States, so why get involved in this one?
And of course um the the reach of Iran
and the uh the ability to gather or to
initiate sleeper cells all over the
world would have these people worried
too. I mean you know it doesn't take
much to blow up a building in downtown
London or Dubai or Abuab Dhabi or
Houston or any place else. So they're
just being very very cautious but the
president is holding them to a very high
accountability
>> and he's in my opinion right to do so. I
mean look what Karma has done to the UK.
Donald Trump has also lashed out at
Obama, posting this on Truth Social. If
I didn't terminate Obama's horrendous
Iran nuclear deal, GCPOA,
Iran would have had a nuclear weapon 3
years ago. That was the most dangerous
transaction we have ever entered into.
And had it been allowed to stand, the
world would be an entirely different
place right now. You can blame Barack
Hussein Obama and sleepy Joe Biden.
Thank you, President Trump. Joe, is is
that a fair post from the president?
What do you make of that?
>> I think it is too because I I didn't
like that deal for a number of reasons.
That is because at the end of the day,
it allowed the uh Iranian government to
uh acquire enough file material to make
a bomb. But but you know, mind you,
Gabriela, you know, at the end of the
day, you don't have to make a bomb. You
could buy it. These people could buy
something off the shelf if they get
completely frustrated. Look, the Obama
deal was a bad deal. was very desperate
to uh sort of settle that score and a
lot of people put stuck their necks out
there and it was one of those things
that uh didn't make sense to a lot of
Republicans and a lot of uh political
analysts and pundits in the United
States. It was it was a very hard cell.
But Obama wanted to be known as a a man
who was winding down uh nuclear weapons
and things like that. He thought it was
uh on the road. He he wasn't a genius
about foreign policy. He made some major
mistakes as a matter of fact. And uh I
think it's right for the president to uh
criticize this uh but to to go back and
say look uh it would have all been
different if I was around then uh that's
not exactly very useful because I'm very
interested in what President Trump is
going to do today and tomorrow.
>> Trump is hitting Iran, but he's really
got China in his crosshairs as US energy
production ramps up. China is right now
deprived of cheap oil from Venezuela and
Iran. So, it's being argued that Trump's
goal here is to transform this global
order to America's advantage, which
means reducing the influence of
communist China. Would you agree with
that?
>> Well, that would be a byproduct. I doubt
that that was top of mind when he he
went in on this. Uh yeah, the uh the
Chinese take a lot of uh petrol or and
natural gas from uh from that part of
the world. And of course u you know what
you don't see mentioned much in the news
today is uh the uh what's the impact of
closing the straight of Hormuz. I mean
20% of the world's oil and gas goes
through there. Uh we've already had
spiking prices. uh the Chinese are going
to have to pay more for it somewhere
else as well as Europeans and sooner or
later it you know it means uh higher
prices for everybody inflation and uh
pretty soon you got everyone's federal
bank federal reserve running around
raising interest rates and then ordinary
Australians, Americans and others have
to pay more for their houses, their cars
and their credit cards. So this isn't a
war that's uh sort of separated from
everyday life. It's going to affect the
Chinese in in many many ways. But I
don't think the president set out to uh
uh go into Iran to to settle scores with
with China. If that happens, uh that's a
bonus.
>> I want to ask you about Kamla Harris. Of
course, she came out against what is
happening in Iran, but she's making time
to gush over anti-ICE protesters. Look
at this.
>> In Minneapolis, just look at what we've
been seeing. It's so fantastic. People
coming out with their whistles, their
and videotaping and you know with with
perfect strangers and in in aiding
perfect strangers.
>> It's been so beautiful to see and and
again this is what I mean about we have
the light inside of us like let's let's
we got to focus on on this.
>> Droy, can I get your reaction to Kamla
Harris there?
Uh well she either has very bad minders
or she u has no minders at all. I mean
that kind of conversation is not very
helpful. Uh Gabrielle I mean to suggest
that um getting rid of America's uh
illegal aliens is a matter of finding um
or fighting this is finding the light
within us. I mean that's a a bit of a
stretch. Look, the Democratic party
doesn't want to see her face in 2028. I
don't know who's telling her to to keep
running. I mean, I suppose she has some
friends within the organization, but she
took the party down to historic defeats.
They don't want to see her again. And
frankly, if she wants to go and and talk
about u you know, law and order issues,
there are other things to talk about.
And uh I think she should just u sort of
enjoy her u her retirement or find
another job or something like that. But
uh this idea of leading the prot leading
the protests against ICE, you know,
there there may be legitimate causes
there, but this idea that uh we're
finding the light, that's just a little
too flaky for a lot of people.
>> She's very flaky, isn't she? I know you
suggest she goes and gets a new job. I
can't see that happening. I think we're
going to be seeing more of Kamla Harris
over the next few years. Former
President Bill Clinton, he has been
grilled over the photographs of himself
in a hot tub that was discovered in the
newly released Epstein files. Let's just
take a look. And Joe, I'm really keen to
get your reaction to all of it. We've
got a few clips to get through, but this
is the very start of Bill Clinton
explaining who was there, what on earth
was going on.
>> So, do you recall the details of this
photo? Recall the photo being taken?
>> No, I don't think I ever knew the photo
was taken.
>> And let's just look at the next one.
He wanted when he knew I was coming and
he said he wanted to help me with the my
AIDS initiative and he invited me to
stay there and he said I want you to
stay at this hotel and I hope you'll use
the the pool.
So I did and then I got out and went to
bed exhausted.
>> He chuckles lol exhausted. Uh, and then
of course he was asked, "Were there
other people in the pool or the hot
tub?"
>> Were there other people in that pool or
hot tub with you as well?
>> I don't think there was anybody in the
hot tub. I don't even I had forgotten
that there was anybody in the hot tub,
but it was me, but it was about
>> Well, there's asking in the pool area.
>> Appears there's a this photo there's a
girl over here. There's someone.
>> Yeah, I don't know who that is.
>> He's also asking in the pool area with
her other individual.
>> I don't know who that is.
Bill Clinton claims that he was in the
hot tub for 5 minutes before going, of
course, straight to bed.
>> We went out, I swam around, I sat in the
hot tub for 5 minutes, or whatever it
was, and I got up and went to bed.
>> And then asked us, did you engage any
sexual activities with this person?
>> End of story. Joy accuser. Um, look,
what did you make of that?
Well, he did not acquire the sober K
slick Willie for nothing. I I remember
him wagging his finger at the American
public saying that he did not have
sexual relations with that woman. I
mean, uh, Bill's got a little problem.
He had a problem then, he has a problem
now. He looks a little silly. He um he,
you know, he could have had some better
answers. And he's very angry that he's
there. Hillary was very angry that she
was there. He could barely conceal that,
as a matter of fact. But this uh this
idea of floating in a tub with strange
women and not being able to explain
anything. Uh you know, the the American
people uh aren't as silly as they look
sometimes on television. I mean, they
they know uh one thing from the other.
And you know, I I always I I credit to
to uh Bill Clinton something that um um
a lot of people probably don't credit,
and that is uh he he began the decline
of the imperial presidency. You know,
when I was a kid, we had some pretty
class X like uh General Eisenhower in
the White House and then John Kennedy.
We had professional politicians. He
comes along, governor from Arkansas, and
he he obviously has some problems,
personal problems. His own campaign
manager said after all the Monica
Lewinsky business, that he's just not
that kind of dog that stays on the porch
when the lights go off, you know, and
and and you know, he he's just the wrong
guy. And he so he u he he brought the
presidency into disrepute. Uh he he was
he should have been impeached. He he
could have easily been impeached. And so
he he sort of uh degraded the uh the
presidency a little bit. People were
always in awe of the office and I think
he inspired a lot of people to go for it
after that because you know you had to
have real credentials to become
president of the United States. uh Bill
didn't have any and when he got in, you
know, he started to do a pretty good job
and then he the the economy became
fairly prosperous and so um but when he
started to get caught out lying whether
it was real estate deals, one thing or
the other and he just he just lied to
the camera and he obviously lied under
oath and u the American people just sort
of lowered the threshold for the white
white house after that and keep in mind
that while he had a good economy while a
lot of presidents have a good economy.
Keep in mind that Wall Street is since I
think Bill Clinton's time have been able
to separate the White House, the uh the
soap opera in the White House from the
fundamentals of the American economy.
That's why sometimes Wall Street doesn't
care who's in the White House as long as
the economy works. And and Bill um uh he
he did not do a very good job there. You
know, the world wants to wake up or go
to bed at night and wake up thinking
that the the United States is in good
hands. And with Clinton towards the end
of it, uh, I wasn't sure and frankly I
was a little embarrassed about him.
>> And you mentioned that Hillary Clinton
was angry that she was getting asked
questions about this, too. Let's just
look at her meltdown after testifying on
Epstein.
>> Photos that are being released
of the secretary as she is testifying
from inside this room. Can you please
advise me as to whether or not that's
permissible and consistent with the
rules, particularly given that we have
asked for a public hearing, if there are
photos that are being released of the
secretary as she is testifying, can you
please explain how that
>> I'm done with this. If you guys are
doing that, I am done. You can hold me
in contempt from now until the cows come
home. This is just typical behavior.
>> Oh, for heaven.
>> So, I would like to understand how that
permissible hearing.
>> It doesn't matter. We all are abiding by
the same rules.
>> I I will take that down.
>> Yeah. Well,
>> I would like to take a break at this
moment. I'd like to haveation for now.
>> Oh, no.
>> Jo, your accuser. You know, you've lost
control when you're waving your finger,
you're pointing, you're slamming your
hand on the desk. What is she? She's
having a meltdown.
>> Yes, she is. You know, her um she she
gave it all away there when she said,
"You can find me in contempt until the
clouds come home." uh she um she she
knows that um they know things that she
can't really talk about. And look uh she
exhibited the same characteristics. It
was the same act after uh Bill got
caught, you know, and you know, a lot of
Americans came to the conclusion and I
was one of them that u she either knew
what was going on and was complicit or
she was as dumb as a doornob. And and so
either way, they didn't want her in the
White House. And so now she's playing
stupid again like you know Epstein was
just a little playmate of her her
husbands and she knew Gelain Maxwell
pretty well I suppose but keep in mind
you know to be fair to Hillary and the
others Epstein was giving money away to
all kinds of people. He was throwing all
kinds of luxuries out there and you know
he's got his own airplane, his own magic
island. Uh you know it would have been
just too much for some of these people
to resist. But Hillary didn't need
Epstein. Bill did. Bill liked the idea
that this guy was stroking his ego and
giving money to his uh his philanthropy
and helping him out and all the rest of
it. Uh I I just think u in recent years
presidents I think make some very bad
choices. Once again, you know, they they
had better minders. They would have
stayed away from guys like this. And
look, Epstein was um uh before he got
caught in 2008 and then later on, he was
sort of a creepy guy anyway. I mean uh
he used to uh hang around with all the
wrong people. Uh Gabriel, there is a a
Harvey Weinstein uh documentary I saw on
Air China coming back from Berlin once a
couple years ago and it had a picture of
of Weinstein Epstein and dare I say
President Trump all sitting at the same
table at Club 54, one of those renowned
night spots. And you know if you had
money and you you passed through New
York, that's where you hung out. And so,
you know, you you would know these
people whether you wanted to or not,
whether you knew about their private
lives or their secret sins or their
crimes. Who wouldn't know? I mean, you
have absolutely no idea. You know, when
people say on on profiling, you know, no
one knew this guy was a serial killer,
it's quite possible to be sitting next
to somebody and know nothing. On the
other hand, it's impossible to imagine
everyone around you is as thick as you
are, too. I mean, somebody must see
what's going on. And Hillary got caught
out. Didn't want to be there. Bill got
caught out and didn't want to be there.
It's very embarrassing for their end of
their careers, you know. Uh and um they
um you know, they're they're going out
on a very s sour note because Americans
can see one thing that they're squirming
like hell
at deposition. They're not even in
Washington. They're in some little hokey
town near Albany, New York, uh which
used to be the circuit for speakers in
the 19th century. So, you know, they um
they they stayed away as much as
possible. A number of their supporters
said that they would run circles around
the committee, but as you can see from
the two uh clips you showed in your
packages, they they they didn't run uh
rings around the the committee. The
committee was asking all the right
questions. Hillary and and Bill just
spit the dummy. And I I I bet they
couldn't wait to get out of the room.
And keep in mind,
>> one one was there for six hours and the
other one was there for seven hours.
Could you imagine grilling somebody for
7 hours and and and and seeing that kind
of behavior? I mean, it's uh it's not
only difficult work, but it's it's
embarrassing to watch.
>> Professor Joakuza, political analyst.
Thank you so much for joining us on
Power Hour. Always great to speak with
you.
>> Thank you.
>> Joining us now is Ali Raza Jaffa Zade,
deputy of the National Council of
Resistance of Iran. Thank you so much
for your time. Look, as we speak, the
United States and Israel, they're
pummeling Iran for a fourth day as
Donald Trump declares just about
everything has been knocked out. And
Iran, of course, is continuing to
retaliate, striking across the Gulf,
striking the US consulate in Dubai.
Can I get your assessment of the
retaliation we are seeing from Iran?
Uh great to be on your show Gabriela. Uh
absolutely. Uh you know what we have
seen over the past uh few days um
certainly there's
the tension on the part of international
community on the threat coming from the
Iran regime. Uh but one thing is very
clear to end the threat from Thran uh
there is only one way to do it and
that's ending the rule of the clerics in
Iran ending the regime and of course
that's the responsibility of the people
of Iran. uh you only see the
international aspect of things, but when
it comes domestically to the people of
Iran, there are like decades and decades
of uh fighting uh by the people of Iran
against the Iran regime. Uh the regime
has killed tens of thousands of the
members of the Iranian resistance over
the past decades. Um hoping that this
will end uh to resistance and opposition
to the regime. None of that has worked.
Just this past uh December, there was
major uprisings in over 400 cities in
all 31 provinces of Iran and the regime
killed thousands of people.
>> Uh but none of that worked and you saw
again the people, the students got
involved and protested and the momentum
is just basically building up against
the regime.
>> How likely is it that we will see regime
change that it will be successful?
Well, as I said, you know, it's all a
matter of how you build up the momentum.
A week before these attacks started last
Monday, uh the main Iranian opposition
movement, uh the Mojay or the MEK, which
is the same movement that exposed all
the major nuclear sites of Iran, the
same movement that has been the main
target of the killings inside Iran and
the target of terrorism by the regime.
They launched a major strike on the
headquarters of the supreme leader Kam
inflicting heavy casualty on the IRGC.
Um the MK announced that some 100
members uh were killed or arrested and
but another 150 managed to leave the
scene uh safely showing the uh how the
resistance against the regime the
organized resistance is expanding and
how vulnerable the regime is getting.
Also this movement um has is very well
structured is headed by a woman Mrs.
Miam Rajiv. Uh she announced earlier
this week the uh uh the provisional
government to transfer sovereignty uh
from the rep repressive rulers of Iran
to the elected representatives of the
people of Iran based on her 10point
platform for the future of Iran that
calls for ballot box to be as a sole
criteria for legitimacy uh separation of
religion and state equal rights for men
and women freedom of religion freedom of
political parties free market economy
recognizing the rights of the
nationalities and minorities in Iran and
a non-nuclear republic form of of a
government. She called on the regular
armed forces to side with the people,
but she also told the IRGC, which is the
repressive force, to lay down their arms
and surrender to the people of Iran. So
the momentum is building up um over the
past few years but particularly in the
past few weeks and that's where things
are um culminating eventually hopefully
will lead um uh to the uh overthrow of
the Iran regime. You need to fight the
IRGC. There's no other way by the people
on the ground.
>> While that momentum has been building,
Iran has selected a new supreme leader,
the second son and chosen heir of the
Ayatollah Kmeni. uh reports that this
was uh this was done after pressure from
the revolutionary guards. What more can
you tell us about this?
>> Well, honestly speaking, there is really
no replacement for supreme leader Kam.
you know out of the 47 years of the rule
of clerics in Iran, 37 years of that um
you know Kam was the supreme leader and
uh I think his death is basically the
end of the theocracy is end of this
regime. Now they may last you know a
little longer but no one can replace
Kami plus even if Kame was alive the
circumstances have significantly
changed. So the whole issue of
succession is really increasingly become
moot. Uh the real issue regarding Iran
is how long more can the regime hold on
to uh to power facing uh the public
outrage. Uh it's only the revolutionary
guards who are actually keeping uh the
regime in power. But there are widely
hated by the people. People see them as
the biggest thieves, as repressors, and
they're distancing themselves, preparing
themselves to fight the revolutionary
guards until you bring down the mullers.
The same way that the people fought the
sha in 1979 because he was so
repressive. He had the secret police
sabach that put intellectuals in jail
and build a notorious a prison. He
dissolved all political parties and had
a only single rule. and he was so
arrogant and corrupt and people just
revolted um and overthrew that and now
is the time uh for the clerics. Uh this
is the time not to go backwards but to
go forward to see freedom, democracy,
political purism in in Iran. And just
imagine Gabriella if when Iran is free,
what an impact it will have uh not just
for the people of Iran but for the whole
region around the world. That is
absolutely what we all want to see.
We're hearing a lot of noise from some
Democrats, some in the media really
against this operation even though
there's already been so much success. I
mean, one Democrat said that this
operation is bound to fail. What do you
make of that? I mean, do you expect that
this will be a completely successful
operation? And what are your thoughts
around how long this is going to take?
>> Well, you know, this is not a partisan
issue. a fight between Republicans or
Democrats or you know in in some other
countries or debates going on. Uh this
is a genuine desire by the people of
Iran uh dating back to you know four
five decades. A lot of people have lost
their lives paying the price to bring
about change. Uh of course uh change is
not going to you know come very easily.
We have paid a very high price. Um, I
have before me um a book that um is so
thick. Let me just show you. Uh I don't
know how you can see how thick it is.
>> It contains names and pictures of over
20,000
members of this movement who have been
killed by the regime page by page all
the details of them. A lot of them very
young people. Um and lots of pictures
here of people um who have been executed
by this regime. This is the price that
has been paid. So the desire for change
is so genuine. It's comes you know from
the people. Um the this culture that you
see in the streets of Iran that the
young people you know dare to confront
the revolutionary guards. The women
especially young women dare to confront
the revolutionary guards. Where did that
culture from come from? Because as far
as the mullers are concerned they're so
misogynist. Well, there was generations
before who paid the price. Women who
took the lead in fighting this regime.
You know, this movement is led by women.
The entire leadership of the main
opposition, the MEK, uh they are women
and they set the pace. They they made an
example for the you know the new
generation that women should be in the
leadership. women uh can you know play
the biggest roles of leadership in
political change and uh they have the
ability to confront the most repressive
regime the revolutionary guards who are
misogynist to the core this is the new
reality of Iran that didn't just happen
overnight years of resistance and
opposition um by the people especially
the young generation and the older
generations have got us to this point
and I'm very very hopeful about the
future.
>> They have shown so much bravery, so much
courage. I'm in awe of them and I don't
think there was enough attention on on
that on their bravery, especially at the
start of the year when we saw so many
people being killed as they were
protesting and and taking to the
streets. Just finally before I let you
go, I know the momentum has been
building for some time, but it seems
that there is this window of opportunity
that things can change, there can be
regime change. Do you ever did you ever
expect that you would say this in your
lifetime?
>> Oh, absolutely. Um I've always been very
confident that uh it will come and uh
you know the dictators want to the first
thing they want to kill is the hope hope
in the minds of people. The reason that
they kill so many people and they do a
lot of it in public and they show it in
public uh is not just to eliminate those
people but but to kill the hope in the
minds of others saying you know it's
it's it's worthless you know it's not
going to happen but the reality is that
when you look at the price has been paid
you look at the commitment you look at
the perseverance you can't you look at
the leadership of this movement a woman
taking the helm and showing everybody
else that The mullas don't represent our
country. They don't represent our
religion. They don't represent our
culture. Um they, you know, in you can
be Muslims, but you can take the lead.
You can be in the leadership. Uh 98% of
the Iranian population are Muslims. Yet
the main victims of this regime are
those Muslims, moderate Muslims who are
standing up against the regime. You
know, Mrs. Rajiv herself saying the
mullas have no legitimacy whatsoever to
to even talk about our religion. Uh she
calls them anti-Islamic.
Uh you know these clerics who say they
represent God on the face of the earth
giving themselves the authority to kill
anyone at will. So there's a there's a
huge divide between the people on the
one side and the Iran regime. And the
momentum has shifted so significantly in
favor of the people and the organized
resistance that gives us this hope not
just for the people of Iran but for the
whole world.
>> Ali Raza Jaffa Zade National Council of
Resistance of Iran deputy. Thank you so
much for your time. We really appreciate
it.
>> Thank you so much. Always a pleasure.
>> Joining us now is Ariela Novak,
broadcast journalist. Ariela, thank you
so much for your time. And we have
plenty to cover, but I really want to
start with the leftist media's coverage
of this historic operation. Yesterday on
the program, we played Rachel Maddo just
crashing out on MS Now. We've heard from
some of the hosts on The View. I mean,
Whoopi Goldberg saying she's mad about
all of it, which is awkward for some of
those hosts on The View who hate Donald
Trump so much. And I would argue some
hate America. I mean, Whoopy Goldberg
thinks that black people have it worse
living in the United States than people
do in in Iran. So, this week, a
conservative co-host, Elizabeth
Hasselbeck, had to explain that women
have been oppressed by this regime.
Let's take a look.
>> War Pete Hugsatha said that this is now
the time for the Iranian people to to
stand and do what they need to do. And
when we have a when you look at what
women looked like and were treated like
we have a before and after um before
this regime and after um this is before
and here's after. And right now these
women have hope. 47 million women have
hope. Women people who are gay are not
being thrown off buildings. Women will
not be mutilated and murdered. And I
think there's such hope and there it
takes strength to find peace and America
should be first at that always.
>> You know I here's the thing though. I
remember and and I hope I hope you're
right. I hope for for the sake of the
Iranian people and for the sake of the
world, for America's sake, I hope you're
right.
>> Ariela, finally some common sense on the
view. Can I get your reaction to the
media's coverage?
>> Absolutely. And I just would like to say
as I listen in on that, I just think how
wild her voice thinking of her voice.
It's crazy to think that that's a wild
thought, right? And as this unfolds,
media framing becomes incredibly
important. Some reactions have moved
quickly to moral judgment without
consistently grounding the discussion in
the broader security context that led to
this operation. Now, scrutiny is
necessary in any democracy. But scrutiny
without history becomes distortion. And
when coverage isolates a single military
action from decades of documented
threats and regional aggression, the
public receives a fragmented
understanding of what reality really is.
Responsible journalism isn't about
defending policy. It's about presenting
context. So people can evaluate the
policy intellectually on their own. And
we can de debate taxes. We we can debate
scope, but we can't debate history out
of the conversation. And as this
unfolds, media seems to be framing it as
what they think versus what really is.
And as some reactions have moved
quickly, as you had said as well, to
moral judgment without consistently
grounding the discussion in the broader
security context, what led to this
operation? for example, when leaders
like t like Governor Tim Waltz, excuse
me, said no new wars that reflect
political frustration, but it doesn't
fully account for the decades long, as
we're saying, strategic buildup that
actually brought us here.
>> Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean,
it it's so frustrating watching Tim
Waltz's Twitter feed posting no new
wars. We've heard from other Democrats
essentially rooting for America to fail
here. here. I mean, Hakee Jeff
apparently knows how it will end,
claiming that it's not going to be
ending. Well, just this final point on
the media narrative. They're now pushing
this um narrative that the timing of
this operation is weird. It's surprising
that the US was dragged into this war by
Israel, which is of course ridiculous.
Here is Donald Trump shutting that right
down.
>> President, did Israel force your hand to
launch these strikes against Iran? Did
that pull the United States into this
war?
>> No. I might have forced their hand. Uh,
you see, we were having negotiations
with these lunatics and it was my
opinion that they were going to attack
first. They were going to attack. If we
didn't do it, they were going to attack
first. I felt strongly about that. And
we have great negotiators, great people,
people that do this very successfully
and have done it all their lives very
successfully.
based on the way the negotiation was
going, I think they were going to attack
first and I didn't want that to happen.
So, if anything, I might have forced
Israel's hand, but Israel was ready and
we were ready and we've we've had a a
very very powerful impact.
>> Ariela, it was a joint operation and
it's one that's changing the world.
>> Absolutely. Um, and something so
beautiful in this is you can see how one
of the most important takeaways in my
opinion from this moment is the visible
strength of the American Israeli
alliance. The partnership is not
transitional. It's strategic. It's built
on shared intelligence, shared domestic
uh democratic values and shared security
interest and decades of operational
coordination. When adversaries see that
the alignment is in action, it changes
their calculus. and when allies see it
reinforces stability in completion. The
global message here is not just about
Iran. It's about the re reliability of
alliances. It's about whether democratic
nations stand together when confronted
with long-term threats. Strong alliances
deter aggression. Weak or fractured
alliances invite it. And what the world
is witnessing right now is the
durability of a partnership that has
shaped the regional security for decades
to come.
>> And that's a beautiful thing.
The other thing that we keep hearing
from Democrats and some in the media is
that this is going to be a forever a
forever war. Here is Vice President JD
Vance shutting that right down on Fox
News.
>> And there's just no way. I said this
before the conflict started. I'll repeat
it again. There's just no way that
Donald Trump is going to allow this
country to get into a multi-year
conflict with no clear end in sight and
no clear objective. What is different
about President Trump, and it's it's
frankly different about both Republicans
and Democrats of the past, is that he's
not going to let his country go to war
unless there's a clearly defined
objective. He's defined that objective
as Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and
has to commit long-term to never trying
to rebuild their nuclear capability.
It's pretty clear. It's pretty simple.
And I think that means that we're not
going to get into the problems that
we've had with Iraq and Afghanistan. Do
you
>> Ariela, what's your assessment of
Vance's position there?
I also listened in on that and what
we're also seeing is how quickly foreign
policy seems to become domestic
political debate. For example, what we
just saw here, some Democrats are
raising constitutional concerns and
questioning executive authority while JD
Vance as we just saw here and the
administration voices are emphasizing
limited objectives and strategic
containment. In fact, as uh our vice
president Vans has stated clearly that
>> President Trump will not allow this to
become another Iraq or Afghanistan style
war, he's emphasized that there will be
no multi-year conflict with no clear end
in sight. The objective as defined by
the administration is straightforward
and Iran cannot have nuclear weapons
period. They also must not be able to
commit long-term never to rebuild that
capability. That tension is real and its
oversight matters. But beneath that
political messaging is larger strategic
questions like how America defines
deterrence in partnerships with its
closest ally in the region. The debate
isn't simply partisan. It's about
whether long-term security strategy
drives decisions or whether short-term
political positioning does. Foreign
policy requires predictability, clarity,
and credibility. And that's what allies
look for. And that's what adversaries
calculate. So when we look at this
picture, these objections are clear.
Absolutely they are. Right now we're
four days into this operation. We're
seeing Iran retaliating, launching a
wave of strikes across the region. We
know a drone has struck uh the American
consulate in Dubai and there are reports
um that strikes have targeted Tel A Viv.
I know that you're in the United States
right now, but what can you tell us
about the situation there?
>> Absolutely. First thing, I actually just
returned from Israel last week and it
was a waiting game for all of us of when
is the war or some conflict going to be
starting. So to say that we didn't know
it was coming, we all knew it was. And
the first thing we have to understand
though is the historical context. This
didn't just start on Saturday morning
when we woke up in America. It began
with the regime's rise in 1979. What
we're seeing now is the latest chapter
in a decad's long ideological conflict.
The current Iranian regime has embedded
hostility towards both Israel and the
United States and its governing ideology
for more than four decades. So, while
many of us woke up to these headlines
over the weekend, the strategic the
strategic tension has been building for
years through proxy warfare, missile
development, and regional
destabilization. We also have to
acknowledge something serious here. In
any military confrontation, there are
going to be casualties, which we have
had already on both sides. That reality
is tragic and it underscores just how
high the stakes are at this moment. And
at the same time, what we're seeing is
the strength of the USIsrael alliance in
action. Not symbolic alignment, but
operational coordination rooted in
shared security interests and
deterrence.
>> Ariel Novak, broadcast journalist. Thank
you so much for your time. We really
appreciate it.
>> My pleasure. Thanks for having me.
>> And that is Power Hour. Thank you for
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