The AI & Chip Boom: This Warning Starts NOW.
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We need to talk about Oracle, Nvidia,
Iron, Nebius, AMD, and Nvidia. And in
this video, we're going to have price
targets on some of these as well. But
here's what you got to understand. What
I've just mentioned are a list of three
buckets of companies. There are, and if
you don't understand the difference
between the three, you're going to learn
in this video. But if you think they're
all just AI chips and servers, you're
mistaken because you've got to
understand what drives the revenue at
these companies and the bottom line to
understand and evaluate them as separate
investments. Now, Chlorweave could
really be part of this discussion as
well along with Iran and Nebis. We've
personally been talking about Iran for
quite a while and it's been in our uh
meet Kevin channel here for a while now.
And look at this. It's been skyrocketing
even since we've been talking about it.
It just continues to go up. It's up
another 9% today. What's also very
interesting is just this morning before
the market opened in our beat Kevin
membership, we suggested that a great
trade today could be coreweave because
of the technical analysis we performed
in I I taught the analysis that I used
to make this determination. So, it's not
like I just throw a dart like I said
here's why I think it and I post it to
course members right here. And look at
this. I said it could go to 125 by the
end of September, but the technical
analysis is really bullish in the near
term here. And what happens? Literally
goes to 125 within an hour of the open.
Right to my line within 12 cents of it.
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meet.com. So with that said, we've got
to break down the difference here
between Oracle and these other
companies. First of all, Oracle. So
Oracle is taking on massive amounts of
debt. They're taking on $ 38 billion of
debt for data centers this year. Now the
lenders are probably in the long term
going to be some bag holders here. JP
Morgan butc Financial although they
might end up dividing this up and you
know issuing bonds for this kind of
stuff. So who knows who's going to end
up holding the debt. But Oracle is
building a massive facility data center
not just in Shackleford County, Texas
and in Wisconsin but they're building
twice as many data centers as they
currently have. They currently have
about 34 data centers and they expect to
get to 71
data centers. This is insane. Oracle is
literally taking money anywhere they can
get it from issuing stock to borrowing
money to throw it into more data
centers. Now, Oracle's earnings actually
missed,
but their forecast was so bullish that
their stock today being up 38% at the
time of this recording has
just made its largest move since 1992,
the year that Kevin was born. '90s baby.
But anyway, that means this stock has
just generated roughly $300 billion.
Where do you think that $300 billion is
going to go? That $300 billion is in my
opinion, which is worth about three
Nikes, not three Nike shoes either,
three Nike companies. That $300 billion
is likely to turn into more share
issuance and likely to turn into more
capex spent. Now, could it all be a
bubble? Sure. But we got to talk about
where that money is going because it's
pretty exciting. Now, understand the
Oracle financials a little bit for a
moment. Oracle generates money by not
only producing data centers but then
licensing that data center space and
providing software related to it. It's
entirely unclear how much
actually comes directly from the server
stack and how much comes from the
licensing. They do give us a suggestion
that it's roughly 5050, but I actually
think that a lot of the licenses for
their software are just tied to their
infrastructure, which they call cloud
services, and they show it as a 50/50
split on their annual reports. Uh, but I
actually think the vast majority of
Oracle's revenue, which we know 86% of
it, factually 86% comes from cloud and
licenses, but I think the vast majority
of that 86% is basically just sort of an
ROI on them building data centers. Okay,
understand this for a moment. This is a
very different kind of business model
than just a pure play SAS business or
like an Nvidia business. Okay, so I want
you to think of this. Let's say it costs
you $100
to build an apple tree. Imagine you can
build an apple tree and it drops $10 a
year, assuming the apple tree doesn't
die like the AI bubble pops, right?
Okay. If it cost you $100 to build the
apple tree, you're like, "Well, I'm just
gonna keep building apple trees, that's
great, but it costs you a lot of money."
So, you take on debt and you build and
the revenue you're generating, that
increase in revenue you're getting is
coming from your capex expenses,
building the trees. So, really, the more
you spend, the more you make. Okay, this
makes sense. What happens when the
spending stops? Well, your revenue
growth slows. It's kind This is a
warning for Oracle. It's kind of like
with real estate. If you own zero rental
properties and this year you buy 10
rental properties or a 10-unit apartment
building, you're going to invest money
into that building and your rental
revenue will look like it just exploded
infinity%.
Because you went from zero rental
revenue to a lot, but that's really just
ROI on your capital investment. Like
building those apple trees or growing
the apple trees, whatever, right? That's
a very different kind of business model
than designing chips, which is what
Nvidia does. See, Nvidia doesn't make
anything. Nvidia doesn't have to spend
money on capital investments. Nvidia
spends money on people who design chips
and then Taiwan Semiconductor
manufactures the chips. So Nvidia
doesn't rely on
borrowing money from JP Morgan or
Mitubishi to go, you know, build the
trees or build more data centers to
increase their revenue. Nvidia just
relies on other companies like Oracle
doing just that. Taking that money and
then plowing it into Nvidia chip purpose
purchases. How do we know they're doing
that? Oh, well, the Financial Times
reported at the end of May that Oracle
to buy 40 billion of new chips for
OpenAI's new US data center. Okay. How
much money is Oracle expecting to spend
on capex in 25 and 2026?
Well, in 25 they're spending roughly
taking a quarter and annualizing it.
They're spending about $34 billion. They
expect to spend another $36 billion on
capex in 26. That means they're spending
$70 billion on capital expenditures.
That's just Oracle. That's how they're
getting their revenue increased by the
way, right? An ROI on these new data
centers they're standing up. Well, if
they're going to spend 40 billion on
Nvidia chips, 40 billion into 70 means
about 57% of all of their capex is going
straight into Nvidia chips, which is
crazy because it means you've only got
about 43% left for things like
buildings, server racks, super micro
computer racks, Dell racks, uh G uh
CPUs, like maybe AMD CPUs or or AMD
GPUs, whatever, The vast majority is
flowing to Nvidia here. Now, we'll talk
about AMD versus Nvidia in just a
moment, but it is possible that Oracle
is a play that benefits from data
centers in the long term, assuming the
trees don't die, assuming the AI bubble
doesn't die. But they're only growing
their revenue with these high
percentages right now because they're
borrowing money, blowing capex, and then
recognizing revenue on that. that
revenue growth isn't sustainable because
at some point they're not going to be
able to continue to generate those sort
of revenue gains and as long as you're
an investor who realize that great.
Nvidia is a different kind of business.
They don't spend money to make money.
They let other companies spend money and
then they make money. The downside of
Nvidia is they have to they have to earn
that money every quarter. when they say
or when they sell $40 billion of chips
in a quarter, they start the next
quarter at zero, right? They have to go
sell another $40 billion in chips. It's
kind of like Tesla when it sells cars.
You sell a thousand cars next quarter,
well, you got to sell another thousand
Cyber Trucks otherwise you're at zero,
right? So to grow from a,000 to 2,000 to
double, you have to go make the thousand
cars again and then get another
thousand, which is different from a
software business. And that's where you
have three buckets. A software business,
which Oracle has some of as well, just
like Microsoft and AWS do, is the gold
standard for making money. So, think
about think about it like this. There
are there are three buckets and there
are basically three standards. Okay? The
most expensive bucket well, let's put it
this way. the capex uh method that's
like you know Oracle building the trees
in my analogy here right uh data centers
right then you have the uh uh start at
zero method this is making chips cars
right and then you have the gold
standard SAS okay with SAS because you
have annual recurring revenue you
actually start at 100%. And you just
grow from there unless people are
cancelling. That's why SAS gets these
crazy valuations. So Oracle isn't mostly
in this pie. They're in the capex pie.
It's kind of like house hack with buying
houses, except we think houses will go
up over the very long term, whereas we
can't say that data centers will
continue to grow in value over the long
term. Just a little injection of
Houseack there for a moment. However,
Houseack is also getting into building.
You know, we're developing two ADUs
right now that are almost done. We're
going to be building probably 8 to 12
more over the next year. We're also
doing a spec build.
Starting at zero is sort of like
building homes as an analogy, right? Uh
the capex method is sort of like buying
homes. And then the SAS method, this is
kind of like the AI play, the AI SAS,
which is something Houseack's doing as
well. You know, we're running Blackwell
chips right now, training our ML so that
way we can launch our beta in Q4 and
hopefully license this in Q1, Q2,
because that's infinite. You know, when
people get into this and they're like,
"Oh my gosh, you helped me make 50 grand
and it cost me two grand to you. I could
pay you for 25 years and break even."
That's a great play. That's what we want
to do. It's sort of like the palunteer
but of real estate. We want to be the
palunteer of real estate. So the point
of this is to help you understand the
three different buckets. This isn't
supposed to be a pitch for house hack
just in case the SEC is listening. This
is not a solicitation. Read the private
placement memorandum. Read the offering
circular. I'm the CEO. I'm biased and
I'm using this company as an analogy to
help you understand Oracle and other
businesses. Okay. So AI SAS plays are
amazing because it's annual recurring
revenue. as long as you're not something
stupid like a chat GPT rapper in my
opinion because like I think those have
limited longevity like I don't know how
you're going to keep making money off of
that. We'll see. Uh and then you have
you know making chips which is what
Nvidia does and then you have the capex
method which is mostly the oracle though
Oracle does have some of the SAS play as
well and understanding those three
different businesses can help you
understand why companies get different
valuations. Right? So what's so
interesting about Oracle is most of
their business is renting out these data
centers and then throwing in the
software with it. The big winner in the
near term in my opinion massively is
going to be Nvidia. Yes, even over AMD.
Now why? Well, let's analyze that.
Everybody's worried about Nvidia not
being able to get from zero and selling
those chips again. But when Oracle is
saying, "We're going to double our data
centers," we probably still have another
two years in the pipeline of Nvidia
cranking these chips because companies
like, "Oh my gosh, I literally just now
got a headline, OpenAI and Oracle signed
$300 billion computing deal among the
biggest in history."
That's crazy that as I'm doing my Oracle
Nvidia video, uh, we get this wall. This
is a Wall Street. There it is. Wall
Street Journal breaking news. There it
is. Exclusive. Wow. All right. Open AAI
signed a contract to purchase $300
billion in computing power over five
years from Oracle. Dude, holy crap.
Divide that. Five years. $60 billion,
bro. $60 billion. This is why Oracle
wants to double their data centers
because now you know OpenAI the SAS
business is throwing money at them. So,
so think about this cycle here for a
moment. Open AAI right here is the SAS
business. It throws money at the capex
at the capex business, right? Open AAI
throws money at Oracle. And who is going
to recognize the biggest amount of money
from that right now?
Nvidia, it gives you years more years
more of run rate. Uh and and it it just
keeps the bubble going longer because
Oracle's over here taking on debt to
finance the continued expansion and then
it's a cycle right now. It all ends, you
know, when companies like OpenAI stop
signing contracts and then, you know,
Oracle has to issue shares and then the
share price goes down and then you can't
get any more debt and then all of a
sudden when OpenAI stops sending money
to Oracle, then Oracle is like, "All
right, we don't need to build any more
data centers." And then AI and then
Nvidia's starting at zero is going to
suck because you're going to have really
big negative growth. But deals like this
$300 billion deal just give you even
more run rate at these ship companies.
It's insane. It's hard not to be
bullish. Now, of course, you could go
into a recession and valuations could
collapse and everything. We're going to
talk about price uh uh price targets in
just a moment. I actually have a price
target of $240 on Nvidia. I'll show you
that in just a moment. But look at this.
Opening. I signed a contract to purchase
300 billion computing power over 5 years
uh from Oracle. People familiar with the
matter said the deal is one of the
largest ever signed, reflecting how
spending on AI data centers is hitting
new highs despite mounting concerns that
it's a bubble. It will require 4.5
gawatts of capacity roughly uh two
Hoover Dams. Oh, I did my flight
training over the Hoover Dam. Uh Oracle
share surging blah blah blah. Yeah, this
is just literally breaking news. Now, I
disagree with this. Oracle is the new
Nvidia for better or worse. I don't
think so. They're very different
business models. Again, you already know
this. It's the capex business model. I
think the only reason they're running
this headline is because of like their
euphoria around the stock right now, but
they're fundamentally different
businesses. So let's let me show you the
fundamentals. Okay. So you can by the
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says 30 billion, not 300 billion. Well,
I don't know, man. Maybe you got to put
the glasses on. But this to me looks
like 300 billion.
And it looks like it says multiple times
here. It's also on my refinitive
terminal right here, uh, where I'm
getting the news wire.
So anyway, okay, let's talk about these
numbers. Okay, so we go to the iPad. Uh,
look at the numbers. Okay, this is this
is Nvidia. Okay, Nvidia has an insane
net margin. Nvidia brings 56.5
cents of every dollar they spend to the
bottom line. So, Houseac bought
Blackwell chips. We have We are running
Blackwell.
56.5 cents of every dollar we spent on
those chips
went to Nvidia's bottom line. That's
insane to think about how high that net
margin is. Now, I want you to compare
that for a moment to something like
Tesla. And this is not to be mean to
Tesla. It's just a it's just a fact.
It's a reality. Okay? Cuz I like Tesla a
lot. I love my Tesla. I've loved Tesla
since 2017 when I got my X. I love
riding my Black X. My Black X was the
best wide. The size was perfect, the
curves, it was beautiful.
But anyway, uh, now I got the Cybert
truck.
Okay, so
Tesla
has a net margin
of uh,549 divided by 22496.8%.
So Nvidia has roughly
uh 10x
a little less than roughly 10x Oh,
that's not the net income. The net net
income line is lower. Yeah, it's 10x.
Nvidia has 10x
the net profit margin of Tesla. So if
Tesla if Nvidia brings 55 cents for
every dollar they sell to the bottom
line, Tesla brings like 5 cents to the
bottom line. And Tesla is worth 1/4th of
Nvidia. So in put a different way,
Nvidia makes 10 times as much money per
dollar that they sell, but they're only
priced at 4x Tesla. That's an
interesting comparison, right? I think
that's very valuable to consider. Now,
something else to consider, uh, is that
you've got, uh, gross margins,
uh, and let's see here. through. Let me
go. Okay, let me go ahead and pull up
the sheets over here because it's going
to be a little easier for me to go
through these on the computer. So, if we
look at Nvidia's assets, Nvidia has $40
billion in debt, but they're probably
not paying that off because the rates
are probably pretty low on that because
they have $57 billion in cash in
marketables. If their debt was more
expensive, they would just pay off their
debt. They could literally pay off their
debt and have $17 billion sitting
around. On top of having $17 billion
sitting around, Nvidia is literally
paying $24 billion to repurchase stocks
in 6 months. That's what is that $12
billion of stock repurchases every 3
months, which is insane. They're immune
to the debt bubble, which you can't say
about Oracle, right? Oracle has debt. We
We'll go pull up their balance sheet uh
right now, actually. Oracle. Let's go
grab their last financial disclosure
and get their last quarterly results.
Let's go look at their debt just to be
able to compare. So Oracle, Oracle,
Oracle, here you go. So cash, Oracle's
got about 10 billion of cash, marketable
securities, about half, call it about 11
billion of cash. So we have 11 billion
of cash. We have debt that needs to be
paid of about $27 billion. I'm taking
out the deferred revenues. Okay. So, $27
billion of current debt that needs to be
paid. Look at this. This should scare
the beebas out of you. Longterm
debt, not deferred.
115 billion.
And they're literally going to borrow
another $ 38 billion of debt to go buy
Nvidia chips. Almost all almost a 100%
of $ 38 billion of debt is going into
Nvidia chips.
They're financing almost everything and
plowing it into Nvidia chips. So think
about it. Oracle holds the debt bag and
they've got that capex, that tree that
they're spending money on, but data
centers could lose value in the very
long term. Nvidia takes all of that debt
and turns it into cash flow today. Not
only do they turn it into cash flow
today, but then they turn around and and
buy back stock, pushing up the stock
value of Nvidia. Now, what does Oracle
do? Well, Oracle issues stock. Oracle is
literally issuing in the la in the last
quarter $1.7 billion of stock and
they're taking on more debt. So they're
taking on even more debt. They already
owe over hundred billion dollars of debt
and they're issuing stock. Nvidia has
essentially no debt relative to the cash
remarkables they have as I've shown you
with the numbers and they're buying back
stock at an insane level. So when you
compare Oracle and Nvidia, no, no,
Oracle is not the next Nvidia. Ifia
benefits immediately off all the
spending that Oracle does, has no debt
problem at all and is buying back stock
for days. Oracle is a debt bag holder
and that's what you have to be careful
about with Coreweave as well. Now
remember what oh uh remember the uh this
market's slipping a little bit right
now. Remember what I said this morning
and I told you about this, you know,
that we not only in the course member
alpha report over here, but this is when
the PPI came out in our course member
live stream this morning. I said, "Guys,
we're like we're at all-time highs in
pre-market. This is way too euphoric
going into CPI tomorrow. Don't get
caught on this. I don't think today is
an upside day for the Q's." And I was
right. We bled off on the Q's chloreted,
which was our other call. We made two
calls today. Q's down, core weave up.
Both of them nailed it. And you got to
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Uh but anyway,
now
you you could start understanding a
little bit of the difference between
Nvidia and Tesla for example. Uh but you
could also understand a little bit of
the difference between Nvidia then and
AMD. AMD is a bit of uh you know, no
offense to stepchildren, but it's a bit
of the stepchild of Nvidia. Uh it's just
the less favored. They do not have
enough cash to pay their debts. They
have about, you know, sixish billion
dollars in cash, not counting
receivables, and they have current
liabilities of 9.8. Nvidia has plenty of
cash and short-term investments to cover
their current liabilities and then have
an extra 17 billion sitting around.
Actually, I think they can pay off all
of their debt. Let me look at that again
really quickly. Uh, I always just like
looking at the numbers because if you
look at the numbers, you don't have to
remember.
Uh, here assets. Yeah, I've got
marketables and cash of 56. I've got
current liabilities
of uh 40 bill. I'm sorry, total
liabilities of 40 bill total. They can
pay off all their debts. Uh and then uh
AMD actually has some long-term debts as
well. So, we don't have enough cash to
pay off uh our debts. And then when we
actually look at the cash flow statement
at AMD, and I'm not trying to poop on
AMD. AMD has a lot of the benefits that
AMD does as well. It's just it's just a
stepchild. Uh if you look at their cash
flows, they actually they do reby stock,
but they're issuing debt. They net
issued $1.5 billion of debt. Now, they
use that to reby their stock, but
they're issuing debt to buy back the
stock. Nvidia just makes so much damn
money, they don't have to issue debt.
They can buy back their stock and not
buy borrow. It's crazy. Nvidia has about
16 times the free cash flow of AMD. And
the stock market value of AMD is about
16.5 times that of AMD, which suggests
that they're kind of tethered, right?
They can kind of move together in
valuation uh because of that difference
in cash flow. Now, when it comes to
price targets for these, I think this is
this is a worthy conversation here. So,
uh the price targets, what I've done is
I've done my usual PEG analysis, which
is a price toearnings growth analysis uh
of these different companies. We take
what Wall Street assumes and then we
also make sort of kneecap adjustments to
these. And my take is the following. My
take is that right now Nvidia is trading
for a um a a PEG ratio of about 1.94 and
I think a fair PEG ratio for them would
be about 2.67.
At 2.67, mind you, Palanteer selling for
like a six, you know, Tesla selling for
like a five. At a 2.67, Nvidia is a $240
stock.
So really nice upside on top of where we
are on Nvidia. Obviously hashtag no
guarantees, but you're trading for 176
right now. You know, it's up like 3 to
4% on the day. AMD, I took the Wall
Street estimates and I adjusted down
their growth. That's my opinion. You
don't have to adjust down their growth.
Wall Street says their growth is going
to be 27% on earnings per share. I think
it's going to be closer to 20%.
With my adjusted down growth, I still
have a price target for AMD of $211.
Rounding a little bit, $211. That's
better than where they sit today. They
sit at 159 today. So, I'm bullish AMD
and Nvidia here.
Okay. Understanding that uh Nvidia or uh
Nvidia is trading for 176. 240 divided
by 176 puts me at a 36% upside. AMD at
211 divided by 155 puts me at a 36%
upside. See how they're tethered? Kind
of interesting. That's actually really
interesting because those are based off
the Kevin valuations. Anyway, Oracle,
according to Wall Street, could have a
$461 price target.
That's based on using my peg analysis or
Oracle. Okay. 461 divided by 22 or 323.
461 divided by 323. That's about a 42%
upside, but I don't like it. It's too
much debt and it's too capital intensive
in an asset that I don't have as much
faith in. Like I have more faith that
housing will continue to go up in value
over time. I don't know if I can say
that for data centers forever. I can say
that for data centers for the next two
years, but can I say it forever? I don't
think so.
At some point, they'll be a commodity
and they'll lose money. You know, you'll
have lower utilization or whatever.
That means with Oracle,
I personally have a personal price
target where I don't I'm not saying it's
going to go to this, but I don't want to
buy Oracle unless it's trading for under
$175.
That is like having where it is today,
but I wasn't interested in it yesterday
and I know it's going up today, but I'm
not interested in it today. Though, if
you're wondering, you know, in the Meet
Kevin membership, is Oracle part of the
top 10 stocks Kevin's buying for the
next 10 years?
The answer is a hard no.
It is not. Spoiler. There's not. The
stocks that are in me Kevin's top 10
stocks to buy for the next 10 years.
Right now, one of them is up today 8.3%.
Another one's up about 1%. Another one's
up about 1 and a.5%. And then where's my
last one?
My last one is up about 2%. All of them
are green right now, even though the
market's turning red. skull. Uh anyway,
this hopefully gives you a bit of an
understanding where likeweave
oracle like to me you have to you can
lump these together. So let's go back to
that sheet right here and you can lump
these the capex heavy ones right here.
This is going to be your Oracle, your
Iron, your NBIS, your core. No, Oracle
probably makes more of software than the
others, but even Coreweave
uh pitches its software for managing the
uh data usage uh people license from
them. All right.
Uh
Nvidia Nvidia
is obviously a stronger and has bigger
BP,
but both have uh 36% upside from here uh
to a fair value. You know, that's not to
overvalued. Uh even more if they go to
overvalued, right? Uh, and then as far
as the SAS side, you know, the SAS side,
that's where you have to be careful
because it's so played out already, so
rich already. Like, you know, Palanteer
is your perfect SAS example, right? Snow
has a better valuation, but there are
other SAS plays that could do well in a
recession as well. One of our top pen
stocks to buy over the next four years
is a SAS. Well, it's SAS and hardware.
Uh but but the hardware leads to the
SAS. Really shocking business. People
who know will know what I just said. And
anyway, um
there are opportunities here. You just
have to be careful because so many of
them are so rich and and I think there's
a risk of real valuation compression in
a recession for some of these. Uh I love
the SAS business model. That's that's
what like when it comes to SAS for me
most of the SAS that I want to hear
about is what can we pull off with house
hack because I personally like I want to
put more more of my own personal money
into house hack even this year because I
look at it as like we're buying house
hack shares at you know a buck 40 per
share which is basically just the value
of the homes and like a low multiple on
top of what you know a real estate
holding company trades for which they
usually trade for 2x uh book. This is
probably trading, you know, at, you
know, 145x book, which I think is a
discount. And then that's why I say
there's really no valuation premium for
the AI that we're building out. And so I
feel like, man, if I'm going to get into
SAS, I'd rather go buy house act. No,
there's risk obviously because what if
we suck, right? But I'd rather like
because of what I'm seeing, I'd rather
put money into that than than you know a
sass at a a six or seven peg that I
don't think will do well in a recession.
Yeah, that's where my head is on all
this. Uh, so,
okay, I just got a notification that
Blue Owl is in a uh secondary offering
for another $2.7 billion of money. Now,
why does Blue Owl matter? You might not
even know what Blue Owl is. know what
Blue Owl is either. Um, Blue Owl uh is a
is a company that is financing the AI
data center expansion for Meta. So, $29
billion of debt going to Meta. Blue Owl
Capital and uh Pacific Investment
Management, they've been involved with
that. UBS is warning about an asset
bubble fueled by debt. But this is why
like I recognize it could all be a
bubble, but realize the bubble is coming
from debt that companies like Coreweave
and Oracle are holding and they're
squeezing that debt and what's coming
out is cash. And Jensen Jensen, where's
my jacket? Where's my my members only
jacket? Basically, think about it like
this. Here's here are the debt people.
The debt people are are ringing a sponge
up here of debt. And then Oracle's like
got a bucket capturing all the debt. And
then the debt is overflowing. It's
bubbling over. Like all that money is
coming out and it's just pure profit
basically that's coming out. And you
just have Jensen over here going shower
shower me shower me in in all this cash.
Like he's liable for zero of the debt.
He doesn't even make the damn chips.
Taiwan Semi does. He just collects the
money. It tells you it's the greatest
largest PP business model ever. And as
long as the debt keeps flowing, man, the
dollars keep coming to your boys over at
Nvidia and hopefully to your stepbrother
AMD.
>> Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
>> Kevin Pafra there, financial analyst and
YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to
get your take.
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