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Should you Buy Coinbase Stock? **(Watch BEFORE Noon April 14)**

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hey everyone me kevin here in this video

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i'm going to give you my strategy for

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investing in the

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coinbase direct listing which happens

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tomorrow

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on april 14th 2021 and

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in this video i'm going to give you my

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price targets and my strategy so

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if you are a regular person following

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along and you lose money it's your fault

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if you make money

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well congratulations and if you're a

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hedge fund and you front run me and make

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it not possible for me to do this

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you suck all right folks now that you

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know that this video is for

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entertainment purposes well

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this video is for entertainment purposes

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only and don't sue me bro if you lose

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money

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let's get into some of my conclusions

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okay first things first

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obviously by this point you should

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already know what coinbase is we're not

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doing an introduction on coinbase i

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already did a first impressions video of

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coinbase

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we're getting right into the numbers on

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this first

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there's obviously a massive massive

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adjustment that has happened

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from transactional revenue at coinbase

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and there are two big forms of

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revenue at coinbase and this is where

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you really have to pay attention to the

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company

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because you have to know these two

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different forms of revenue and where

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they come from

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so the big form of revenue number one is

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transactional revenue i go in there i

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buy bitcoin

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i sell bitcoin i go in there and i send

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somebody bitcoin and i pay a fee or i

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receive bitcoin or whatever and their

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fees charge

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that's transactional revenue whereas

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subscription and service revenue

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has to do with saving borrowing lending

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staking building distributing storing

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and paying

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so the light blue right here is where

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growth is coming to coinbase

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at the same time as growth is coming to

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the transactional revenue side

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and i'm talking about a lot of growth

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this right here is the income statement

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for coinbase you'll see that the revenue

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ended 2020 is 1.14

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billion dollars and their other revenue

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which would be like those services and

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subscriptions was 136 million dollars

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now what you can do because this is the

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year ended

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2020 so you can now jump on over to the

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8k and you can see that

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in the first quarter of 2021 their

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revenue went up to

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1.8 billion dollars with a net income of

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about

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between 730 to 800 million dollars that

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730 to eight mil will become important

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or 800 million will become important in

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a moment

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but the big thing here is we can then

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determine that this total number right

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here

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is going to be about 1.8 billion dollars

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but the beautiful thing is they also

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gave us an indication that the net

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income

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number should be somewhere between 730

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and 800 million dollars

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which if i have this top number and i

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have this bottom number

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and they even tell us about how much

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money they're going to spend in taxes

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it makes it a lot easier for me to fill

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in what's in between

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especially since i know that their

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motivations are to start spending up to

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15

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per year in advertising going forward

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maybe not this year in 2021 but in the

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long run going forward

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so i have all of the pieces of the

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puzzle that i really need to try to make

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some projections

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out to say 2024 on this company and i'm

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going to come up with a

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bare base and bull case scenario for

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this company

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and i'm using information that i

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collected from the report

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like 15 advertising going to 15 if you

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look right here

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advertising is not at fifteen percent

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right now you'll see just sales and

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marketing right here

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which is 56 million dollars that ain't

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15 percent

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of 1.2 billion dollars so we've got a

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little bit of work to do now i'm going

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to spare you of a lot of the details

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in fact in my stocks and psychology of

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money course i put together a

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49-minute breakdown of how i came up

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with what i'm about to show you and i'm

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just going to give you the bottom lines

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and if you want to learn how i do these

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things well obviously the program is

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linked down below for you but let's

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focus on the bottom lines because that

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might be why you're here so

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now we've got a little bit of insight

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that insight i just gave you is going to

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be really important for understanding

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these bottom lines

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so first things first the private

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valuation for this company is

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90 billion dollars which puts it at a

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share price of about 344

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i do not expect that coinbase is going

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to sell for anything

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even close to the private valuation of

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344

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it's wishful thinking it's a dream it's

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kind of like

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the listing reference price of 250

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dollars per share

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it's a joke you're not getting coinbase

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for 250 a share

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and if you can either i screwed up on my

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analysis or buy the crap out of this

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okay it's that simple if you could get

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this for 250 a share

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stop watching right now buy

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okay unless crypto has gone to zero all

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right the street values this at closer

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to a hundred billion

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dollars which means we should easily see

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this 250 price

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go to 383. like this is like this 250

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thing is like a one dollar auction on

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ebay it's fugazi

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whatever however you want to pronounce

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it it's a load of crap okay

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uh this this not unlikely notice i said

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not

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unlikely not not likely anyway not

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unlikely it would not be unlikely for

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coinbase to double

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tomorrow which would put it uh above the

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streets valuation would not surprise me

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there's gonna be a lot of euphoria and

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buying pressure on this that puts it

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around a share price of 500

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that would not be unlikely now is that a

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fair deal well let's talk a little bit

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more

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first a very very rudimentary way you

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can compare

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is you could just look at different

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valuations well stripe is valued at say

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i think stripes around 90 billion

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dollars in the private

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market which is kind of where coinbase

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sits

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uh and so okay we think it's probably at

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least that right

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robin hood right now in the private

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market's worth somewhere between 40 to

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60 billion

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it's probably going to be worth like 90

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to 100 billion paypal

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is worth 322 billion squares worth 124

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billion

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sofa is super tiny that thing's worth i

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think like 15 or 16 billion dollars but

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it's

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tiny relative to the amount of uh

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monthly transacting users

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uh and so what i want to do is you know

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that's that's just a really rough way of

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kind of comparing looking at some comps

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but instead what i want to do is i want

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to look at a bear case scenario

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a base case scenario and a bull case

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scenario and i know this looks like a

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lot of numbers but it's really really

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simple i'm going to make this really

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fairly easy for you

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so all i'm going to do is i'm going to

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show you the bottom lines here again

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if you want to know the details i've got

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a course where i teach exactly how i

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break these things down

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and that's a link down below and you can

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use that coupon code as well but let's

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just get to the bottom lines

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so what i did is i did a bear case

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scenario for coinbase

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and i took something that wall street

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talks about every freaking day

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and the mainstream media is drilling

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coinbase for

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they're like hey well isn't there going

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to be a race to the bottom

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in transactional revenue what happens

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when everybody sets their commissions to

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zero

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and coinbase gets screwed because they

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can't charge those big fat fees anymore

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and i go fine zero i will literally set

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your transactional revenue to

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zero and that's my bear case scenario

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wait a minute kevin how do they make

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money have you set that to zero

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well i'm projecting out to 2024 and i'm

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assuming

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a 70 growth rate see

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1.7 1.7 1.7 1.7 uh times

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their current services and other revenue

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of 162 million

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so i'm literally taking zero

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transactional revenue and and

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assuming 70 growth in their other

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revenue

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for four years the last growth that they

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had

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was a hundred and twenty six percent for

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other revenue and here's the cool thing

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and this is straight from their

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s1 like you could read it yourself it's

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in there there's a segment in their s1

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that says of the customers uh of the

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of all the customers they have 21 of the

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customers

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use other products those other services

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and other revenue

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segments when they use those other

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revenue segments

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the income coinbase gets per customer

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goes up 91 basically

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if you touch any other product coinbase

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has

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other than just transacting let's say

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cryptocurrency

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you literally and essentially

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double the revenue that coinbase makes

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off you

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so you want to double the amount of

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money coinbase makes off you just use

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some of the other products they have

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and it's fine like we want companies to

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make money but the point is that

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segment has the real potential to

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explode

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and i don't think wall street i think

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wall street's gonna be stuck on this

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transactional revenue number

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and if you extrapolate this extra this

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transactional revenue number

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dude coinbase the moon like if you

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literally just take the growth we saw

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from 2020 to q1 2021

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and you take that transactional revenue

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you go yo this is going to the moon

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which i don't think it is i think that

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number is going to come down over time

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uh then then you could literally say

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this is a 1200

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company easily like you could you could

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easily make the case for that if you

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just use transactional revenue

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i i'm a conservative investor i'm gonna

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put zero dollars here okay

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i don't like a lot of risk so i'm

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putting zero dollars here and i'm

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assuming seventy percent growth over

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here

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uh then i'm also going to assume that 15

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marketing budget and i'm gonna

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extrapolate some of the other numbers

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from prior years

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again if you want my explanation for how

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i craft these spreadsheets

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link down below okay operating income so

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that brings me to operating income

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in my bare case of about 635 billion

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if i take off a provision for taxes

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which i use

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taxes that they give in fact you could

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see that over here the 8k

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2021 uh i assume

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taxes of about 250

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dollars which just so you can fact check

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that really quickly

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take a look at this so look at this

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really quick see operating income i got

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to and this is where i did my

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extrapolation from

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operating income about a billion dollars

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provision for income taxes 250 million

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net income about 758 million for q1 2021

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right

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if i go over because we don't actually

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have that info yet we only have

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rough estimates uh when i look over here

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the three months ended 2021 we'd have

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net income between 730 and 800

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uh and taxes paid between 260

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and 225 with some miscellaneous

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adjustments stock based compensation

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things like that here

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i generally ex i keep these things

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simple so i can extrapolate a little bit

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uh and those are the numbers that i'm

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using over here to extrapolate off of

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i'm removing the stock based

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compensation as those are things that

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come with fluctuations

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it's not worth even having a

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conversation about right now anywho and

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keep in mind all this information is

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based on a

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quarter so we get a net income in the

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2024 figure

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of approximately 476 million dollars

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if that ends up being true then we can

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go over here to this

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bare case projection right here and we

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get an annualized net

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which is just basically taking that

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number times four divided by the shares

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outstanding gives me earnings per share

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of

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7.3 then i have to make an assumption

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i'm going to assume

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a 80 times earnings multiple

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in 2024 which i think that's reasonable

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because if i go over here

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take a look at what some of these

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companies are selling for uh to 2022.

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tesla's like 111 end phase 55 square 141

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peloton 141 pound tier 114 etsy expi

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nvidia are down in the 40s and 50s range

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i think 80 is

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reasonable for coinbase projecting to

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2024. so i think this is very reasonable

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and if i use that estimate for my bear

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case

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i get to a price target of about 584

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dollars

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which means if i pay 400 for the stock

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today

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i'd get about a 9.93 compounded annual

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return for those four years

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in my bare case scenario assuming

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transactional revenue goes to

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zero okay now what i did

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is i did the exact same thing for my

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base case

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and my bull case except the difference

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between my base case

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and my bull case is simple and the bear

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case so in a bear case i use

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transactional revenue zero in my

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base case i did transactional revenue in

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2024

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at 50 of what the transactional revenue

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is

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in q1 2021 so i'm literally assuming

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between q1 2021

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and 2024 that transactional revenue

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falls 50 because of price competition or

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whatever

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this gives me a net income of 678 mil

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and then in my bull case scenario i

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assume that transactional revenue stays

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flat so q1 to 2024 q you know the entire

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2024

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annualized we stay flat so it literally

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in none of my scenarios price any growth

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in for the next four years in

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transactional revenue but they still

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include that 70

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growth in that non-transactional revenue

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which is really really important

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okay if i put both of those scenarios in

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here take a look at what we get

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so we zoom in over here we get eps here

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are the different eps's

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if we want to pay 80 times earnings this

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is the result we get we get a price

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target of 830

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to 1076 in 2024

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depending on which scenario you look at

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which means if i pay 450 or 500

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today i would expect either a 16.55 or a

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21.14

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annual compounded rate of return so

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folks

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bottom lines okay again if you want to

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understand

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all the nitty gritty of everything that

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i did there and i give you the

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spreadsheet and everything

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this is the kind of stuff that i like to

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teach in my fundamentals of

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stocks and psychology of money program

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it's in that program already it's live

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already

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so here are the bottom lines the best

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buy

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for this company in my opinion is buying

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this company under

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four hundred dollars i don't think it's

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going to happen but if you buy it under

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400

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you're able to assume zero transactional

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revenue

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80 times earnings in four years because

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this company's still going to be growing

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so 80 times earnings in

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in four years i think is very reasonable

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for a company that's still going to be

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growing

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15 percent ad spend 70 growth in

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non-transactional revenue

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and you'll take that 400 dollars to 584

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and you'll have that internal rate of

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return of around 10

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that's not bad for a bear case scenario

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so in other words

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if you're bullish and you can get this

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under 400

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load the boat is my take okay

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bear case if you buy it under 450

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uh same thing except 50 transactional

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revenue still 70

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growth for non-transactional 80 pe four

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years growth continuing blah blah blah

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blah

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that gets you about the sixteen point

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five five percent

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internal rate of return that's good and

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then if you're super bullish you buy it

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under

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five hundred dollars uh and this assumes

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this assumes transactional revenue stays

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flat so

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very very very simple concise bottom

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line

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in my opinion and don't sue me bro if

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you lose money it's your fault if you

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lose money this is my analysis and it

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could have been totally wrong

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you buy coinbase under hundred dollars

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very heavily

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it's unlikely to happen you buy up to

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three percent of your portfolio of coin

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base up to four hundred

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fifty dollars so you buy moderately up

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to four hundred fifty dollars

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heavy might be like five percent uh

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three percent of portfolio up to say 450

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and if it goes up to 500 maybe one

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percent of your portfolio

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if it goes over 500 it really depends on

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my mood and how interested i am in

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paying a premium for this

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if it goes over six hundred dollars

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forget it

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lulls gg congratulations coinbase

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i'll buy you on the dip there you go

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that

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is a bottom line uh strategy

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that i have for coinbase took me a few

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hours actually it probably took me

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somewhere around

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nine hours now to put all this together

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usually these these deep fundamental

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dives take quite a while to put together

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so hopefully you appreciate this very

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condensed version

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that i've been studying over the past

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few a few weeks here

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hopefully appreciate it if you did

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consider subscribing consider sharing

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let me know what your comments are down

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below if i missed something let me know

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and folks see in the next one thanks for

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watching bye

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[Music]

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you

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