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How Theatre Can Change Your Life: Susan Albert Loewenberg at TEDxCulverCity

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Thank you so much. Um, I have to confess

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to you something.

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Um, I am hopelessly in love with the

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literature of the theater. And the great

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thing about it is that it has actually

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been my constant companion uh over a

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30-year period. And I've been with the

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same company all this time. I guess I'm

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one of those people that doesn't really

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like to change in a way, but I love

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change. And so I have been able to take

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this wonderful wonderful thing the

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theater and um it has changed my life so

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many times and changed the direction of

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what I do and what I think and what my

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challenges are and I am in incredibly

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grateful to the theater and to plays and

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playwrights. Writing plays is very

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difficult. David Mamemoth said something

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very interesting once. He said, "When

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you come into the theater, you have to

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be willing to say that you're coming in

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to undergo a communion.

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If you're not willing to do that,

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what you get is entertainment,

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not art, and poor entertainment

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at that.

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And uh that's been something that I've

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thought a lot about. Um I started off as

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an actor. I was actually a professional

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actor, a child actor. And um uh but when

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I got into my 20s, I kind of realized

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that I love the theater, but this wasn't

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for me. I actually sort of went off to

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graduate school and studied history and

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thought I was going to become a

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historian. And then I got pulled back

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into the theater by a chance remark

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somebody uh made to me at a party

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talking about the theater. And wouldn't

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it be interesting to try to make theater

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in an unusual environment, perhaps in

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prisons or jails? So, I found myself six

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months pregnant,

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working at the county jail with a couple

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of colleagues doing theater games and

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improvisation and working with inmates

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to create plays.

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And what I found was that it was so

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interesting and involving and actually

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at that time more interesting than

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anything that I was seeing in the

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theater. I also remember how gallant uh

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they were all male inmates the um male

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and reverential they were because I was

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six months pregnant. It made a huge

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impression on me actually. Um and that

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kind of morphed into an informal and

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then a formal organization which I

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somehow found myself running. Uh we were

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a group of theater artists. Some of us

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were set designers, costume designers,

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uh production designers, there was a a

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writer, there were a couple of actors.

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We called ourselves artists in prison

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and we started working in prisons. Uh we

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worked at the uh state level at the

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California Institution for Women and

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then the California Institution for Men

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and we then started in at the federal

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level at Terminal Island. And I I I

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always remember the awful

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appropriateness of that word terminal

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island um for a prison. And we uh we we

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used the sort of theater games uh

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improvisation technique to create

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original plays with the inmates.

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And on those long drives, we used to

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kind of plan and scheme and think like

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what's our next project? What's the next

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thing we're going to do? And I remember

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once we were um we were on this drive

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and we had an actress with us that we'd

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hired. Her name was Miltcha Sanchez

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Scott. and she started telling us about

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her experiences working with um an

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employment agency that hired women who

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were Latinas uh as housekeepers. They

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were mostly illegal and uh this was an

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employment agency that placed them. And

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then she sort of shyly revealed that

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she'd written an outline of a play. And

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I remember there were about six of us in

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the car, one set designer, one director,

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one actor, uh one uh one one writer, and

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simultaneously all we all screamed,

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where is it? We've got to see this. And

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uh that's how Milta became a playwright.

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And we became a producer of a play

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called Latina, which ran in Los Angeles.

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It was our first venture in the sort of

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professional theater in Los Angeles. Um,

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and being a producer is kind of like

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being a doctor when you got a play

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running, like being a doctor on call all

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the time. And I remember once when

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Latina was running, uh, about two months

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into the run, about 7 o'clock at night,

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I got a call from the stage manager and

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she said, "Ex is not here.

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She's been arrested. She's in county

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jail for growing marijuana on her

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balcony.

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And I thought, "Oh, okay. Um,

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okay, okay, okay." And then I said, "Um,

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okay. I'm going to find a bail bondsman.

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I'm going to go down to county jail. I'm

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going to get her out. You go buy some

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wine. Don't spend too much money. And

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some cheese. And let's try to buy 45

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minutes with our audience." and keep,

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you know, keep them happy. So, I raced

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down to the county jail. I did get her

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bailed out and I brought her back. She

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was pretty hysterical and I I kind of

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tried to keep her calm with original

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quotes like um the show must go on. Uh

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anyway, we we threw her costume on and

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um and uh and the show went on and um

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and then uh we um we finished out a

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successful run and um other things

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happened along the way. I remember um we

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uh we then started to get other ideas

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about things we could do in the

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community and we started doing plays in

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the community. Um, and so the name

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artist in prison didn't really feel

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right anymore. And I we thought, well,

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what's a great name that we can sort of

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not lose artists in prison? So we came

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up with artists in prison and other

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places.

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Now that's a brand for you. Uh, and uh,

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and but we did actually do some pretty

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interesting stuff. I remember we worked

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with a group of Japanese men and we

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created a play with them. We did a play

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with um older and younger women ages 20

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to 80. And we did a play called Not as a

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Sleepwalker. And it actually came out of

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a remark. One of the 80-year-olds said

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to one of the 20-year-olds, "Whatever

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you do, don't go through life as a

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sleepwalker."

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So we began doing that and it was a very

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interesting way of exploring theater and

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making theater with people in ordinary

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people in the community. I remember we

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made a film about um our experience

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putting together a play at Terminal

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Island called Jump Street. And uh at

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that point we had somehow persuaded the

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prison authorities that it would be a

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great idea to furlow people because TI

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was a minimum security institution. It

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was also co-ed which is a whole other

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interesting story. But um we convinced

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them that they should furlow the

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inmates. um they could come back to the

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prison every night and but they would

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actually perform for the community at

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large. We did it at the John Anson Ford

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Theater which is right across from the

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Hollywood Bowl. So every night the idea

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was the inmates would go out they would

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perform and just like Cinderella

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returning from the ball they'd come home

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uh about two days before this huge

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effort which took us four or five months

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to put together this original show with

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inmates.

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The prison was put into lockdown.

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Now, none of our guys and women were

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involved in the actual incident that

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provoked the lockdown. Lockdown means

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everybody goes back to their cell and

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nobody moves and nothing happens. Well,

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you know, when you work in the theater,

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the magic of the theater is that

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everything is possible. That's the

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magic. In prison, it's nothing is

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possible. And that's the challenge. It's

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also it's also what makes working in

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that environment wonderful and

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incredibly rewarding.

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So, here we were with all this effort

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and everybody's locked down. There are

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no exceptions. And I thought to myself,

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oh my god, what am I going to do?

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And I I think my mind started clicking

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and I thought

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prison,

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federal,

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Congress, Senator, Senator Tunny. How am

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I going to get to Senator Tunny? He was

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a liberal Democrat. He was our senator.

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Somehow I got to Tunny. He made a phone

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call and the prison authorities decided

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to let those inmates

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uh

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perform and they were allowed to leave

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lockdown and we performed.

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Um

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after that period of time, we began to

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think about really working in the

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professional theater with playrs and and

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the next phase of uh LA theater of what

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became LA theater works was working in

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the professional theater developing

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plays with playwrights, foreign um a lot

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of foreign playwrights and a lot of new

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American playrs. And so we changed our

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name from artists in prison in other

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places uh to LA theater works and we

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started working with plays and and

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playwrights. And um I heard about this

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very interesting fellow named Steven

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Burkoff

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and he was a a quite an interesting

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avonggard artist in England and I uh got

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in touch with him and read one of his

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plays. I thought he was fantastic and I

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brought him to the United States and

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that began a very long association with

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probably one of the most interesting and

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original uh people working in the

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theater during that time in the uh early

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80s. And um I remember uh we had a huge

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hit with with one of his plays called

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Greek and we won all kinds of awards in

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Los Angeles and I thought, "Oh, this is

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great. I'm going to take Steven Burke

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off to New York." And so we we raised

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the money and we t tried to bring it to

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New York. We produced the play in New

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York and of course we got killed by the

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critics. I'll never forget it. It was an

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it was a crushing defeat and we kind of

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came home and felt absolutely terrible

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about the whole experience. But it was

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one of those things that on reflection I

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think it was my first what I would

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consider my first big failure. And um I

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probably learned more from that failure

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and how you handle failure and risk than

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uh probably anything else that I've ever

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done. And somebody came to me and said

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there are a group of actors in Los

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Angeles who uh love the theater. They're

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famous because of film and television.

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They're here, but they really don't want

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to travel around the country to work in

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regional theaters to satisfy their urge

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to do theater.

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And it didn't interest me much because

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my emphasis at that point was on plays

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and new plays, new writing, interesting

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work. Um, and and the idea of celebrity

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didn't didn't interest me at all. But

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somehow uh like a lot of good things

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that have happened, I um I did allow

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myself ultimately to be persuaded and uh

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we assembled a group of 34 superb

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actors. I mean people like John Lithco

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and Edner and Marshia Mason, Julie

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Harris, Helen Hunt, Hector Alzando,

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Stacy Keat, Richard Drifus. It was quite

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a group. And we had this dream that we

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were going to form a theater company in

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Los Angeles unlike any other that

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brought in worldclass directors to

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direct this illustrious group of 34

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people. And um create a new equity

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theater in Los Angeles. Um again it was

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it was it was in some ways it was a

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failure. We never were able to raise the

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money that we needed for a variety of

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reasons. And one day um but but the

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group persisted and we did lots of

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things. We did workshop productions and

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had a good time with each other. And one

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day Richard Drifus said um you know I've

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always wanted to work in the u on radio

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and how about doing a play on the radio

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and I thought to myself there's an

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interesting idea. I said well you know I

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do know this woman who runs a public

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radio station. Her name's Ruth Seymour.

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It's called KCRW.

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So I went to Ruth and she thought it was

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a terrific idea. Um, so we decided we

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would record Babbot

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and Ruth said she'd air it and we spent

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about a year and a half. We knew abs had

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no idea what we were doing. We brought

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it we brought it into the studio. We put

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it up on a computer. At that time in the

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eight in the mid 80s they you know

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people weren't really using computer but

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we found a kind of a com a theater

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person who loved computers who put all

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90 characters in the book up on a

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computer and we actually over a period

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of a year recorded the play just the way

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you do a film in the studio. Um it took

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us about six months to have a wonderful

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editor edit it. Ruth premiered it as an

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all day marathon on Thanksgiving Day and

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uh for it was a 12 and a half hour

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recording

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and um it just exploded. It took off. Um

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NPR picked it up and aired it all over

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the country and then the BBC got in

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touch with us. They heard about us and

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said, "We're going to come over to

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America. We'll pay for everything. We

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want to do two plays with you. The

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Crucible and are you now or have you

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ever been? And we said yes. And here we

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are 400 plays later. Um and LA Theater

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Works was transformed into a recording

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company. Um, we have recorded 400 plays,

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but today we have uh we're in about a

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100 markets all over the United States

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with our with our radio show. Um, once

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we started working on the radio, we

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realized we had all of this sensational

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content and we thought, well, what about

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publishing this, you know, being audio

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publishers? So, then we had to learn the

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audio publishing business. We decided to

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go back. We got all the rights. It was

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not easy, but we got rights to actually

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sell at that time it was cassettes. Um,

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and we started selling cassettes to

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libraries and to people all over the

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country and all over the world. And so

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we began to learn the audio publishing

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business in addition to learning the

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radio business, in addition to, you

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know, trying to understand something

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about the play business. And um as we

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began to expand and uh learn about all

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of these businesses, it it it occurred

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to me um that I was such a lucky person

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because I stayed with the same company

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for my whole career, but I had such an

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incredible opportunity to uh get into

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all kinds of things that I had

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absolutely no knowledge about, that I

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was kind of a an

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I had to go from being an amateur to

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becoming a bit of a professional in each

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of these things. And uh as we began to

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accumulate new staff members with

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different kinds of expertise, it became

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more and more interesting. And then when

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we started um expanding from radio to

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audio publishing, um one of the things

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we tried to figure out is how best to

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get ourselves out there first all over

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the United States. Um, and so we started

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touring our show the just the way that

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um that Garrison Keeler or um or uh Ira

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Glass tours this American life. And so

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we started touring around the United

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States. And one of the things that we

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did was to um was to take a show from

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our catalog and tour it around the

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United States. And so one of the things

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that we have done is to take our show,

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one show a year, and play maybe 40 to 50

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venues around the United States. A

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couple of years ago, um

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I got the idea that we would do some

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international touring. And uh so through

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a series of crazy circumstances, we

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ended up deciding that we would go to

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China and tour a play in China. And we

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chose a play that um

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I guess people thought we were a bit

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crazy to take. Um but it seemed to me if

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we were going to do it, it had to be

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worth doing. And so we took a play,

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believe it or not, about freedom of the

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press to China. Um

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it's called Top Secret: The Battle for

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the Pentagon Papers. and it is about the

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Washington Post's decision to publish

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the Pentagon papers uh after the New

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York Times had published them for three

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days in 1971 and been enjoined by the

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government. Um it's a great play because

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it's an easy to understand story. It's

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one of the great standup and cheer plays

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about one of the great moments in

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American journalism. It has heroes, it

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has villains. Um it shows uh American

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democracy and the court system warts and

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all. And so um we thought this would be

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a great play to take to China. It was a

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huge risk and um we uh brought the play

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in 2011. We played three cities. We were

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almost shut down um but we made it

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through. And then we came back this year

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uh in 2013.

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And this time we were invited to play

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the National Theater and six other

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cities in China. We played to thousands

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and thousands of people. We were sold

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out everywhere we went. And the thing

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that was so thrilling about it, let me

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just take a look here. Yeah, here we go.

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That's top secret.

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That's our cast.

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And those are some of the comments. Um,

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and one of the great and and thrilling

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things about it is the entire audience,

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I would say everywhere we went were 35

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and under, all young people, all

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fascinated with this topic. Um, and they

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came in droves. I'll never forget

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standing in the lobby of the theater the

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first time we got there after all the

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problems we had trying to get the show

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there and I thought what if nobody comes

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and I'm sitting in the lobby and the

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doors open and hundreds of young Chinese

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streamed into the theater and I thought

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this is worth it. This is worth

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everything. Thank you.

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