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A New Housing Market Danger | Crash Risk.

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below hey everyone kevin here i just got

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a notification in the bloomberg terminal

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and this is something that i really want

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to start paying attention to and it has

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to do with the real estate market listen

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to this u.s homeowners have a cushion

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with cash out refinances now i want to

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read you some of the statistics here

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because we've got ourselves a little bit

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of an inflection point first things

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first you got to know that real estate

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home prices have skyrocketed we've seen

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rents go up like five six percent year

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over year but home prices have gone up

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18 to 25

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year over year it's absolutely nuts we

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also thought that real estate prices

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would slow down because they generally

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always seasonally slow down around this

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time in fact if you go to the redfin

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data center we don't need to pull it up

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right now we've talked about before if

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you go to the redfin data center usually

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if you look at 2018 and 19 more normal

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years you see home prices go up in march

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april and may and then starting right

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around the school season in august

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september october you start seeing home

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prices go down we saw literally the same

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trend this year we saw the up and then

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the slow kind of inflection down as you

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go into the winter months but something

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changed all of a sudden home prices

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started going up again which is breaking

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the typical trend and it's a sign that

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real estate is still a hot hot commodity

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and the real estate market continues to

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heat up even

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more which is crazy because just when we

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thought we were on normal trend now it's

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getting even hotter it's nutty anyway

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now listen to this okay oh before i

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mention this one of the things that has

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been so spectacular about this real

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estate uh movement is that individuals

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have not been loading up on substantial

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levels of debt and what happens is if

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debt stays the same and prices go up

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then your safety net actually increases

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because if there's going to be a real

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estate crisis that leads to a lot of

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foreclosures well that's going to

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require a lot of people to be upside

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down but right now you've got a less

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than two percent of people that have

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negative equity you'd have to have

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somewhere around a 15 percent decline to

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see about

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five percent of people be upside down

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it's nominal people have so much

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freaking equity right now it's crazy but

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anyway listen to this

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there's plenty of room for more cash out

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mortgage refinancings blah blah blah

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that could provide a cushion for u.s

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consumers grappling with faster

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inflation the use of cash out refinances

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has climbed recently

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25 percent of fannie freddie

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mortgage-backed securities in september

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were cash out refinances 25

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so 25

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of mortgages in september were people

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taking money out of their homes one in

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four mortgages where people going wow

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we've made so much money let's take

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money out of our homes and then

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presumably buy crap or put it into the

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stock market you're borrowing it like

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2.8 so why not

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risky though okay listen to the next one

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okay

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25

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in september

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28

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in october

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30

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in november

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and all three of these top the average

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of 20 that we've seen since the

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beginning of 2020. the share of

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borrowers increasing their loan balance

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by at least 5

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rose to 51

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of all refinances in q2 up from 38

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in the prior quarter now we're still

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significantly down from the 89 percent

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that we saw in 2006 where 89 percent of

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borrowers were taking out more money but

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this is actually an inflection point to

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where now the sudden we're seeing people

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go

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we're seeing people basically say wow

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well we're not getting stimulus anymore

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the stock market's just zooming hey

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kryptos done great this year hey we kind

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of feel like buying stuff and going on

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vacations and stuff's more expensive now

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you know what let's get the hammer

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get the hammer break the piggy bank and

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go shopping

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that's dangerous though because now that

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means the equity cushion that

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individuals has have starts to shrink in

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the real estate market the more debt you

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have in the real estate market

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potentially the more consumer spending

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we get in the short term the more the

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stock market moves positively in the

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short term today we had an insane beat

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on consumer spending which was

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phenomenal and unexpected people are

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very very happy about this i was blown

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away by this and i was honestly kind of

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blindsided by this i thought after

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stimulus started fading we wouldn't

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continue to see this kind of crazy

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spending but no people are finding money

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and folks they're breaking the real

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estate piggy bank is what's happening

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now

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now look i'm still bullish on real

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estate i'm a long hodler on real estate

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i'm 85 percent long in the stock market

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uh you know i've got a 12 hedge in the

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stock market and then i've got another

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what three percent in cash uh i am

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overall very very bullish on this market

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but this is

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this is another one of those little red

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flags you're kind of like

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okay all right it's it's

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you know not horrible i mean people

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still have equity we don't really have

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concerns yet if price is falling but

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it's something we're going to want to

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pay attention to because if the federal

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reserve does decide to accelerate the

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taper and all of a sudden we start

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seeing interest rates go up sooner

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because inflation's higher for longer

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because supply chain shortages are

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lasting longer and are more painful and

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then all of a sudden we could start

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seeing drawdowns potentially

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in

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real estate where we potentially start

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seeing people decide okay maybe it's

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time to start selling real estate

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because things are getting a little too

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bubbly it's possible and who knows it

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could remember look here's the thing

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there's no easy way to say this but

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i think i'm just going to try to

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simplify it as much as possible

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the easiest way to create

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a bubble is with debt

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and the easiest way to ruin

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the growth of asset prices

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is with the popping of the debt bubble

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look when bitcoin was sitting at 33 000

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this summer i made a video saying

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crypto's about to explode for this

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reason and it was that

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the levels of debt outstanding on

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bitcoin were very very low and bloomberg

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was estimating that if debt skyrockets

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we could easily easily skyrocket back to

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over 60 60 000 for a bitcoin it's

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literally exactly what happened

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but the more debt you have

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in an asset system the more at risk you

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are of a rapid and quick collapse

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i get concerned about over

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collateralization you see it with stable

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coins you saw it in the 2008 financial

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crisis people are like oh don't worry

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about stable coins this is just

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borrowing just like banks used to do or

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currently do just like the traditional

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financial system yeah well we saw what

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happened in the traditional financial

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system in 2008 okay when the real estate

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bubble won't poop

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now do i really expect the real estate

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bubble to pop anytime soon because some

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people are refinancing at a higher rate

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no but i do think that this is going to

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create some very interesting

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manipulations in the marketplace because

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it'll probably lead to larger consumer

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spending and more investments in the

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stock market

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so if anything this is actually bullish

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for stocks

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and negative

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for real estate in the longer term

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but for now

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it's something to pay attention to the

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percentage of people doing cash out

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refinances which for those who aren't

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familiar keep in mind also if you're not

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but anyway if you're not familiar with

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that basically if you let's say you buy

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a house for a hundred thousand dollars

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and now it's worth two hundred thousand

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dollars and originally you put twenty

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percent down so you had an eighty

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thousand dollar loan you put twenty

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percent down twenty thousand dollars

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down right now it's worth two hundred

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thousand dollars you could refinance it

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again with twenty percent down you've

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got eighty thousand dollars of equity in

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the house you could take that eighty

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thousand dollars out

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leave forty thousand dollars into it you

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pay off your first loan now you have a

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total of a hundred sixty thousand

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dollars of debt you left 40k of equity

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in there boom

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now you just put another 80 grand into

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your pocket because your real estate

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went out this is just an example of 100k

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property doubling right and just to

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clarify if you buy something at a

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hundred thousand dollars you have an 80

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000 debt position you actually have 120

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000 of equity but you're taking out an

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extra 80 via cash out refinance and

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you're leaving 40 in as essentially your

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down payment but a lot of that is is

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funny money because it was just the

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market appreciating

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anyway

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this is a little bit of an inflection

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point it is something to pay attention

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to

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i'm not concerned yet

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oh

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no my sticker fell off i had a little

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concerning sticker right here and it's

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gone now oh well anyway thank you so

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much for watching this we'll see in the

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next one goodbye

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