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below hey everyone kevin here i just got
a notification in the bloomberg terminal
and this is something that i really want
to start paying attention to and it has
to do with the real estate market listen
to this u.s homeowners have a cushion
with cash out refinances now i want to
read you some of the statistics here
because we've got ourselves a little bit
of an inflection point first things
first you got to know that real estate
home prices have skyrocketed we've seen
rents go up like five six percent year
over year but home prices have gone up
18 to 25
year over year it's absolutely nuts we
also thought that real estate prices
would slow down because they generally
always seasonally slow down around this
time in fact if you go to the redfin
data center we don't need to pull it up
right now we've talked about before if
you go to the redfin data center usually
if you look at 2018 and 19 more normal
years you see home prices go up in march
april and may and then starting right
around the school season in august
september october you start seeing home
prices go down we saw literally the same
trend this year we saw the up and then
the slow kind of inflection down as you
go into the winter months but something
changed all of a sudden home prices
started going up again which is breaking
the typical trend and it's a sign that
real estate is still a hot hot commodity
and the real estate market continues to
heat up even
more which is crazy because just when we
thought we were on normal trend now it's
getting even hotter it's nutty anyway
now listen to this okay oh before i
mention this one of the things that has
been so spectacular about this real
estate uh movement is that individuals
have not been loading up on substantial
levels of debt and what happens is if
debt stays the same and prices go up
then your safety net actually increases
because if there's going to be a real
estate crisis that leads to a lot of
foreclosures well that's going to
require a lot of people to be upside
down but right now you've got a less
than two percent of people that have
negative equity you'd have to have
somewhere around a 15 percent decline to
see about
five percent of people be upside down
it's nominal people have so much
freaking equity right now it's crazy but
anyway listen to this
there's plenty of room for more cash out
mortgage refinancings blah blah blah
that could provide a cushion for u.s
consumers grappling with faster
inflation the use of cash out refinances
has climbed recently
25 percent of fannie freddie
mortgage-backed securities in september
were cash out refinances 25
so 25
of mortgages in september were people
taking money out of their homes one in
four mortgages where people going wow
we've made so much money let's take
money out of our homes and then
presumably buy crap or put it into the
stock market you're borrowing it like
2.8 so why not
risky though okay listen to the next one
okay
25
in september
28
in october
30
in november
and all three of these top the average
of 20 that we've seen since the
beginning of 2020. the share of
borrowers increasing their loan balance
by at least 5
rose to 51
of all refinances in q2 up from 38
in the prior quarter now we're still
significantly down from the 89 percent
that we saw in 2006 where 89 percent of
borrowers were taking out more money but
this is actually an inflection point to
where now the sudden we're seeing people
go
we're seeing people basically say wow
well we're not getting stimulus anymore
the stock market's just zooming hey
kryptos done great this year hey we kind
of feel like buying stuff and going on
vacations and stuff's more expensive now
you know what let's get the hammer
get the hammer break the piggy bank and
go shopping
that's dangerous though because now that
means the equity cushion that
individuals has have starts to shrink in
the real estate market the more debt you
have in the real estate market
potentially the more consumer spending
we get in the short term the more the
stock market moves positively in the
short term today we had an insane beat
on consumer spending which was
phenomenal and unexpected people are
very very happy about this i was blown
away by this and i was honestly kind of
blindsided by this i thought after
stimulus started fading we wouldn't
continue to see this kind of crazy
spending but no people are finding money
and folks they're breaking the real
estate piggy bank is what's happening
now
now look i'm still bullish on real
estate i'm a long hodler on real estate
i'm 85 percent long in the stock market
uh you know i've got a 12 hedge in the
stock market and then i've got another
what three percent in cash uh i am
overall very very bullish on this market
but this is
this is another one of those little red
flags you're kind of like
okay all right it's it's
you know not horrible i mean people
still have equity we don't really have
concerns yet if price is falling but
it's something we're going to want to
pay attention to because if the federal
reserve does decide to accelerate the
taper and all of a sudden we start
seeing interest rates go up sooner
because inflation's higher for longer
because supply chain shortages are
lasting longer and are more painful and
then all of a sudden we could start
seeing drawdowns potentially
in
real estate where we potentially start
seeing people decide okay maybe it's
time to start selling real estate
because things are getting a little too
bubbly it's possible and who knows it
could remember look here's the thing
there's no easy way to say this but
i think i'm just going to try to
simplify it as much as possible
the easiest way to create
a bubble is with debt
and the easiest way to ruin
the growth of asset prices
is with the popping of the debt bubble
look when bitcoin was sitting at 33 000
this summer i made a video saying
crypto's about to explode for this
reason and it was that
the levels of debt outstanding on
bitcoin were very very low and bloomberg
was estimating that if debt skyrockets
we could easily easily skyrocket back to
over 60 60 000 for a bitcoin it's
literally exactly what happened
but the more debt you have
in an asset system the more at risk you
are of a rapid and quick collapse
i get concerned about over
collateralization you see it with stable
coins you saw it in the 2008 financial
crisis people are like oh don't worry
about stable coins this is just
borrowing just like banks used to do or
currently do just like the traditional
financial system yeah well we saw what
happened in the traditional financial
system in 2008 okay when the real estate
bubble won't poop
now do i really expect the real estate
bubble to pop anytime soon because some
people are refinancing at a higher rate
no but i do think that this is going to
create some very interesting
manipulations in the marketplace because
it'll probably lead to larger consumer
spending and more investments in the
stock market
so if anything this is actually bullish
for stocks
and negative
for real estate in the longer term
but for now
it's something to pay attention to the
percentage of people doing cash out
refinances which for those who aren't
familiar keep in mind also if you're not
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but anyway if you're not familiar with
that basically if you let's say you buy
a house for a hundred thousand dollars
and now it's worth two hundred thousand
dollars and originally you put twenty
percent down so you had an eighty
thousand dollar loan you put twenty
percent down twenty thousand dollars
down right now it's worth two hundred
thousand dollars you could refinance it
again with twenty percent down you've
got eighty thousand dollars of equity in
the house you could take that eighty
thousand dollars out
leave forty thousand dollars into it you
pay off your first loan now you have a
total of a hundred sixty thousand
dollars of debt you left 40k of equity
in there boom
now you just put another 80 grand into
your pocket because your real estate
went out this is just an example of 100k
property doubling right and just to
clarify if you buy something at a
hundred thousand dollars you have an 80
000 debt position you actually have 120
000 of equity but you're taking out an
extra 80 via cash out refinance and
you're leaving 40 in as essentially your
down payment but a lot of that is is
funny money because it was just the
market appreciating
anyway
this is a little bit of an inflection
point it is something to pay attention
to
i'm not concerned yet
oh
no my sticker fell off i had a little
concerning sticker right here and it's
gone now oh well anyway thank you so
much for watching this we'll see in the
next one goodbye
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