California impounding Tesla Robotaxi's!
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So Tesla this weekend got notification
that they are eligible for launching a
taxi service in San Francisco. This is
widely being seen as a way to start
deploying robo taxi vehicles in San
Francisco to which apparently you've got
insider memos at Tesla saying we're not
launching a test taxi service, we are
launching a robo taxi service, which is
starting to really piss off some
politicians in California. Ed Lello
yesterday said, "Is Tesla launching
Uber?" and Brett Winton from ARC wrote,
"You misspelled killing." Uh, all of
this relates to the CPU approval for
Tesla to launch a chauffeur service in
San Francisco this weekend. Uh, however,
internal memos at Tesla suggest that
Tesla has other plans. Tesla told staff
on Thursday it plans to launch its robo
taxi service in San Francisco this
weekend according to an internal memo
viewed by Business Insider. In other
words, even though Tesla got approved
for a taxi permit in California because
they have not applied for a robo taxi or
autonomous uh taxi service in California
and they only have approval to operate
as a chauffeur service. Tesla's telling
its staff, "Don't worry about it. We are
going to be launching our robo taxi
service this weekend in California."
This has led some politicians to freak
out uh suggesting that they will
threaten to impound uh California uh
robo taxis from Tesla if they don't
follow the rules. Here's some more notes
on it from Business Insider. The company
said that the timeline for the launch
has been moved up and the service could
launch as soon as Friday. It's going to
be this weekend. The geoenced area is
actually going to be really big. It's
going to incorporate uh mo much of
Martin County. You've got uh East Bay,
San Francisco, south to San Jose. So,
all all over the Bay Area really here.
You've got uh the program will launch
with safety drivers uh in the driver's
seat who will be able to control the car
using the steering wheel and brakes. So,
something to know about this is uh right
now in Texas, in Austin, Texas, we
actually have a safety driver sitting in
the right side. Uh, and they can really
only override the vehicle to the tune of
pressing that door release button to end
the robo taxi service. Uh, and then they
can get out of the vehicle and walk
around to the other side to get in the
driver's seat. They can also stay in
that passenger seat and they can sort of
teleoperate by communicating back to the
Tesla tea operations support and have
the tele operations support take over.
It appears to me that you're not
actually going to have a tea operations
support in San Francisco. Instead, what
you're going to have are basically
people driving hopefully these upgraded
Model Y because in Austin, Texas, we
have upgraded Model Y's with extra
cameras, extra sensors. We think they're
just camera sensors and uh antenna so
that they can communicate with the tele
operation service like radio antenna or
whatever. The the what's interesting
about this is it's unclear if you'd
actually need those upgraded versions
because technically if you've got a
driver just essentially chauffeuring
people around on FSD, Ed Bloodlaw is not
really wrong. It's not really different
from a Tesla driver today driving Uber
and operating FSD. That said, what I'd
like to know is are these the upgraded
uh robo taxi vehicles that just have a
driver in the driver's seat? That would
be best case scenario in my opinion
because it would give you more
opportunity to expand those greater
sensor vehicles in a greater area. Uh
that said, the company has yet to apply
for a permit for driverless testing or
deployment in California. So California
is making it a little harder. Not a
surprise. That's usually how it works in
California. Uh and Tesla currently has a
permit for testing its self-driving
software in California with a driver
behind the wheel, which is fine. I mean,
you could have that a driver behind the
wheel. I mean, that's basically what you
have with FSD. Now, somebody here in the
chat says Tesla factories are the
product. Whimo can't scale. You know, it
is interesting when uh Tesla was uh uh
really gaining popularity before COVID
and then through co that was exactly
what Elon Musk's pitch was is that the
product is not actually the vehicle,
it's the factory. And that to me
actually really got me so excited
originally about Tesla because I always
thought, wow, here is true American
ingenuity again, but it's coming in the
form of manufacturing. something where
America has just really lost a lot of
its clout over decades, especially to
countries like China. And so I was
really excited to see, hey, here's a
product that's great that we could
actually expand using, frankly, American
manufacturing.
Unfortunately, lately, it seems like the
the goal is let's come up with a new
master plan. Uh let's come up with a
different strategy for Tesla. We're
going to go all in on autonomy. And
don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to
autonomy. I guess I'm just disappointed
because I think of the core business as
being such a great manufacturer and why
not print money there while you can see
like I I always like to make a reference
to sort of like our our goals because I
think it makes more sense when you put
money where your mouth is and then you
you share that perspective. So I
personally think uh that in uh in house
hack for example, we're hoping to launch
our AI SAS business, you know, portion
of the business later this year. Uh and
who knows, it could be a game changer
for the valuation of the company, but
we're not going to destroy the core by
doing that. It's not like we're going to
buy fewer homes. It's not like we're
going to be less aggressive in
developing ADUs or developing land. We
want to we want to take like you know
maybe 5% of our capital a small little
like side buffer you know your rainy day
fund basically or a portion of that
rainy day fund and go hey let's actually
put some money into this because this
could be a really good uh a good thing
here because we've already got our AI
product now it's just a matter of
turning it into a licensable product.
Uh, and so we're really excited about
that, but we're not like eating up the
whole business doing that because if
that doesn't work, the rest of the
business is still on strong strong
foundations. And I think that somewhat
is what frustrates people uh with Tesla
a little bit because we look at Tesla
and we say, "Hey, you know, Tesla as a
company that's such a great
manufacturer. We could be printing so
much money with newer models of vehicles
now, but we're not because of this sort
of rejiggering of essentially the entire
business towards autonomy. So, here's
Senator Scott Weiner who says Tesla
doesn't have permits to deploy
autonomous vehicles in California and
hasn't even applied for permits. If
Tesla actually deploys autonomous
vehicles without permits, these vehicles
should be seized and impounded. We have
a permitting and safety rules process
for a reason, Elon isn't exempt. This is
uh one of your more vocal AOC type state
senators inside of California. The C
puke, I'm purposefully pronouncing it
that way, granted Tesla a transportation
charter permit in March that allows the
company to provide transportation
services for employees. It's important
to remember that a lot of people got
really excited about hearing about this
permit. People called it a robo taxi
permit in California, which is exactly
not what it was. It was actually
literally just a permit to taxi
employees. That's all it was. So they're
really, in fairness, within the letter
of law, they are operating a taxi
service. So yes, when Ed Lllo questions,
wait, is Tesla doing an Uber service?
Yes, technically permit-wise, they are.
And this is where I hope that we're
using those upgraded Model Y's to
actually just test the AV side so Tesla
can go back and get more permitting uh
for that. Now, in my opinion, what would
be really lame is if Tesla is not
actually uh testing their robo taxi
service uh and what they're just doing
is they're just chauffeuring people
around on FSD because I think at that
point it would be misleading to to
really investors because the point is,
hey, we want to see the expansion of
robo taxi, not FSD. And like I said,
anybody can just hop in an FSD car today
and get chauffeurred around. So, that'll
be really critical when this launches
this weekend to see what these vehicles
actually are. I doubt I'll get an invite
because that's exactly what I'll be
looking for. Uh, so we'll have to rely
on other people to make that
determination. Uh, Car Maker currently
has safety monitors that sit in the
passenger seat in Austin. Tesla built a
modified Y in Austin that are fitted
with extra cameras and the teleoperating
equipment. Earlier this month, Tesla
shared uh a video of a fully autonomous
uh delivery that had its own software on
it as well. Uh so that had to be
disabled upon arrival to the customer.
And you haven't actually seen much more
of that. It's kind of like they did one
and then they then they were done, which
then uh you know, it's unclear if that
actually had any tea operating support.
So usually you need to add the uh
additional camera or sorry uh antenna
equipment in which I don't think that
vehicle had. So, still kind of
impressive. You got Yeah, you got to
give it to Tesla. Uh, it probably is
just very like unfortunately Elon to
say, "All right, we got our taxi permit.
Let's launch robo taxi." To some extent,
like I said, I hope that they do use the
robo taxi product and then you just have
a safety driver in the driver's seat. If
anything, it could actually be good for
Tesla because if you think about it, if
Tesla has a driver in the driver's seat,
like what's the difference? the driver
in the passenger seat versus in the
driver's seat. If it means Tesla can
expand to 20 times as many cities or
even states, go for it. Let it happen.
And at some point, the goal is to remove
that person in the front of the vehicle
entirely. Uh and if that could happen
faster, hey, great. That's awesome. So,
uh we'll see what happens. We'll see
where it goes. But that's some of the
latest drama on Tesla.
Lax Sky36 says, "Tesla and Nvidia are my
AI plays." Let's go. Uh, somebody else
says there was so much Elon hate this
week. Way ramped up from norm. Oh,
where'd you see that? I feel like it's
been a little quieter since he's escaped
politics, though. Maybe I'm not looking
in the right place. Uh, let's see here.
What? Somebody else says, "Lidar is
already down to $1,000 per vehicle or
less, projected to be just 500 soon."
Yeah, you know, Elon's very, very
stubborn. Going to stay away from that.
I always maintain that all you really
need is forward- facing LAR. Like, you
don't really need the spinning all
around the vehicle in my opinion. The
camera should be fine for this, but just
have that just eliminate the chance of
crashing into something right in front
of you. Uh, and you know, if adding a
little, you know, micro vision style LAR
could do that, heck, that's great cuz it
just it just removes like that that one
bad news story of that robo taxi
crashing into something in front of it,
right? Uh, anyway, so uh, some things to
think about.
>> Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you. Kevin Pafra there, financial
analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always
great to get your take.
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