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California impounding Tesla Robotaxi's!

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So Tesla this weekend got notification

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that they are eligible for launching a

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taxi service in San Francisco. This is

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widely being seen as a way to start

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deploying robo taxi vehicles in San

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Francisco to which apparently you've got

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insider memos at Tesla saying we're not

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launching a test taxi service, we are

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launching a robo taxi service, which is

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starting to really piss off some

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politicians in California. Ed Lello

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yesterday said, "Is Tesla launching

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Uber?" and Brett Winton from ARC wrote,

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"You misspelled killing." Uh, all of

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this relates to the CPU approval for

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Tesla to launch a chauffeur service in

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San Francisco this weekend. Uh, however,

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internal memos at Tesla suggest that

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Tesla has other plans. Tesla told staff

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on Thursday it plans to launch its robo

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taxi service in San Francisco this

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weekend according to an internal memo

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viewed by Business Insider. In other

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words, even though Tesla got approved

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for a taxi permit in California because

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they have not applied for a robo taxi or

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autonomous uh taxi service in California

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and they only have approval to operate

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as a chauffeur service. Tesla's telling

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its staff, "Don't worry about it. We are

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going to be launching our robo taxi

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service this weekend in California."

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This has led some politicians to freak

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out uh suggesting that they will

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threaten to impound uh California uh

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robo taxis from Tesla if they don't

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follow the rules. Here's some more notes

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on it from Business Insider. The company

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said that the timeline for the launch

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has been moved up and the service could

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launch as soon as Friday. It's going to

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be this weekend. The geoenced area is

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actually going to be really big. It's

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going to incorporate uh mo much of

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Martin County. You've got uh East Bay,

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San Francisco, south to San Jose. So,

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all all over the Bay Area really here.

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You've got uh the program will launch

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with safety drivers uh in the driver's

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seat who will be able to control the car

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using the steering wheel and brakes. So,

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something to know about this is uh right

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now in Texas, in Austin, Texas, we

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actually have a safety driver sitting in

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the right side. Uh, and they can really

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only override the vehicle to the tune of

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pressing that door release button to end

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the robo taxi service. Uh, and then they

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can get out of the vehicle and walk

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around to the other side to get in the

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driver's seat. They can also stay in

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that passenger seat and they can sort of

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teleoperate by communicating back to the

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Tesla tea operations support and have

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the tele operations support take over.

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It appears to me that you're not

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actually going to have a tea operations

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support in San Francisco. Instead, what

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you're going to have are basically

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people driving hopefully these upgraded

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Model Y because in Austin, Texas, we

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have upgraded Model Y's with extra

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cameras, extra sensors. We think they're

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just camera sensors and uh antenna so

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that they can communicate with the tele

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operation service like radio antenna or

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whatever. The the what's interesting

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about this is it's unclear if you'd

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actually need those upgraded versions

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because technically if you've got a

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driver just essentially chauffeuring

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people around on FSD, Ed Bloodlaw is not

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really wrong. It's not really different

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from a Tesla driver today driving Uber

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and operating FSD. That said, what I'd

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like to know is are these the upgraded

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uh robo taxi vehicles that just have a

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driver in the driver's seat? That would

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be best case scenario in my opinion

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because it would give you more

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opportunity to expand those greater

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sensor vehicles in a greater area. Uh

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that said, the company has yet to apply

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for a permit for driverless testing or

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deployment in California. So California

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is making it a little harder. Not a

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surprise. That's usually how it works in

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California. Uh and Tesla currently has a

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permit for testing its self-driving

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software in California with a driver

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behind the wheel, which is fine. I mean,

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you could have that a driver behind the

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wheel. I mean, that's basically what you

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have with FSD. Now, somebody here in the

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chat says Tesla factories are the

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product. Whimo can't scale. You know, it

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is interesting when uh Tesla was uh uh

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really gaining popularity before COVID

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and then through co that was exactly

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what Elon Musk's pitch was is that the

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product is not actually the vehicle,

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it's the factory. And that to me

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actually really got me so excited

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originally about Tesla because I always

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thought, wow, here is true American

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ingenuity again, but it's coming in the

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form of manufacturing. something where

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America has just really lost a lot of

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its clout over decades, especially to

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countries like China. And so I was

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really excited to see, hey, here's a

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product that's great that we could

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actually expand using, frankly, American

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manufacturing.

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Unfortunately, lately, it seems like the

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the goal is let's come up with a new

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master plan. Uh let's come up with a

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different strategy for Tesla. We're

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going to go all in on autonomy. And

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don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to

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autonomy. I guess I'm just disappointed

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because I think of the core business as

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being such a great manufacturer and why

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not print money there while you can see

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like I I always like to make a reference

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to sort of like our our goals because I

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think it makes more sense when you put

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money where your mouth is and then you

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you share that perspective. So I

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personally think uh that in uh in house

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hack for example, we're hoping to launch

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our AI SAS business, you know, portion

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of the business later this year. Uh and

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who knows, it could be a game changer

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for the valuation of the company, but

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we're not going to destroy the core by

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doing that. It's not like we're going to

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buy fewer homes. It's not like we're

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going to be less aggressive in

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developing ADUs or developing land. We

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want to we want to take like you know

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maybe 5% of our capital a small little

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like side buffer you know your rainy day

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fund basically or a portion of that

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rainy day fund and go hey let's actually

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put some money into this because this

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could be a really good uh a good thing

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here because we've already got our AI

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product now it's just a matter of

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turning it into a licensable product.

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Uh, and so we're really excited about

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that, but we're not like eating up the

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whole business doing that because if

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that doesn't work, the rest of the

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business is still on strong strong

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foundations. And I think that somewhat

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is what frustrates people uh with Tesla

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a little bit because we look at Tesla

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and we say, "Hey, you know, Tesla as a

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company that's such a great

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manufacturer. We could be printing so

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much money with newer models of vehicles

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now, but we're not because of this sort

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of rejiggering of essentially the entire

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business towards autonomy. So, here's

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Senator Scott Weiner who says Tesla

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doesn't have permits to deploy

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autonomous vehicles in California and

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hasn't even applied for permits. If

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Tesla actually deploys autonomous

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vehicles without permits, these vehicles

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should be seized and impounded. We have

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a permitting and safety rules process

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for a reason, Elon isn't exempt. This is

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uh one of your more vocal AOC type state

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senators inside of California. The C

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puke, I'm purposefully pronouncing it

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that way, granted Tesla a transportation

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charter permit in March that allows the

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company to provide transportation

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services for employees. It's important

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to remember that a lot of people got

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really excited about hearing about this

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permit. People called it a robo taxi

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permit in California, which is exactly

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not what it was. It was actually

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literally just a permit to taxi

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employees. That's all it was. So they're

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really, in fairness, within the letter

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of law, they are operating a taxi

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service. So yes, when Ed Lllo questions,

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wait, is Tesla doing an Uber service?

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Yes, technically permit-wise, they are.

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And this is where I hope that we're

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using those upgraded Model Y's to

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actually just test the AV side so Tesla

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can go back and get more permitting uh

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for that. Now, in my opinion, what would

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be really lame is if Tesla is not

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actually uh testing their robo taxi

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service uh and what they're just doing

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is they're just chauffeuring people

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around on FSD because I think at that

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point it would be misleading to to

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really investors because the point is,

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hey, we want to see the expansion of

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robo taxi, not FSD. And like I said,

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anybody can just hop in an FSD car today

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and get chauffeurred around. So, that'll

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be really critical when this launches

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this weekend to see what these vehicles

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actually are. I doubt I'll get an invite

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because that's exactly what I'll be

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looking for. Uh, so we'll have to rely

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on other people to make that

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determination. Uh, Car Maker currently

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has safety monitors that sit in the

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passenger seat in Austin. Tesla built a

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modified Y in Austin that are fitted

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with extra cameras and the teleoperating

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equipment. Earlier this month, Tesla

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shared uh a video of a fully autonomous

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uh delivery that had its own software on

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it as well. Uh so that had to be

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disabled upon arrival to the customer.

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And you haven't actually seen much more

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of that. It's kind of like they did one

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and then they then they were done, which

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then uh you know, it's unclear if that

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actually had any tea operating support.

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So usually you need to add the uh

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additional camera or sorry uh antenna

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equipment in which I don't think that

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vehicle had. So, still kind of

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impressive. You got Yeah, you got to

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give it to Tesla. Uh, it probably is

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just very like unfortunately Elon to

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say, "All right, we got our taxi permit.

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Let's launch robo taxi." To some extent,

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like I said, I hope that they do use the

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robo taxi product and then you just have

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a safety driver in the driver's seat. If

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anything, it could actually be good for

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Tesla because if you think about it, if

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Tesla has a driver in the driver's seat,

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like what's the difference? the driver

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in the passenger seat versus in the

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driver's seat. If it means Tesla can

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expand to 20 times as many cities or

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even states, go for it. Let it happen.

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And at some point, the goal is to remove

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that person in the front of the vehicle

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entirely. Uh and if that could happen

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faster, hey, great. That's awesome. So,

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uh we'll see what happens. We'll see

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where it goes. But that's some of the

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latest drama on Tesla.

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Lax Sky36 says, "Tesla and Nvidia are my

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AI plays." Let's go. Uh, somebody else

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says there was so much Elon hate this

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week. Way ramped up from norm. Oh,

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where'd you see that? I feel like it's

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been a little quieter since he's escaped

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politics, though. Maybe I'm not looking

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in the right place. Uh, let's see here.

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What? Somebody else says, "Lidar is

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already down to $1,000 per vehicle or

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less, projected to be just 500 soon."

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Yeah, you know, Elon's very, very

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stubborn. Going to stay away from that.

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I always maintain that all you really

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need is forward- facing LAR. Like, you

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don't really need the spinning all

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around the vehicle in my opinion. The

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camera should be fine for this, but just

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have that just eliminate the chance of

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crashing into something right in front

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of you. Uh, and you know, if adding a

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little, you know, micro vision style LAR

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could do that, heck, that's great cuz it

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just it just removes like that that one

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bad news story of that robo taxi

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crashing into something in front of it,

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right? Uh, anyway, so uh, some things to

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think about.

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>> Why not advertise these things that you

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told us here? I feel like nobody else

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knows about this.

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>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

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see how it goes.

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>> Congratulations, man. You have done so

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much. People love you. People look up to

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you. Kevin Pafra there, financial

12:13

analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always

12:15

great to get your take.

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