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Market Warning: Watch BEFORE Tuesday.

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hey everyone kevin here let's talk about

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inflation expectations because guess

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what's happening tomorrow tomorrow

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we have the cpi data release which does

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mean i will be up at 5 30 in the morning

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which is kind of crazy but i'm going to

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be up at 5 30 in the morning so if you

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want to see the cpi data release

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live i will be covering it but first

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let's talk about

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what expectations are and what happened

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last month because last month we got

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inflation data that let us know

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how did prices change for consumer

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prices

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between april and may now we're going to

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get price changes

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between may and june since we're in july

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and we're going to learn about

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june inflation readings now the first

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thing that's really useful to do is know

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where we had some big pain points last

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time

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and that was here on things like a car

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and truck rental prices

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going up 12.1 percent month

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over month which is insane there's a

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massive

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bum 4 increase in public transportation

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seven percent increase in airline fees

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these are some

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big big big numbers so this month

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look comparing essentially the end of

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may or the middle of may

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to the middle to end of june we want to

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potentially see

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those airline figures those ticket

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prices going

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down or stabilizing see zero

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means they're still up right and that's

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important to know the easy way to

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picture this is here actually let's

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explain it like this

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go over here if let's say an airline

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ticket is a hundred dollars and

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then next month which is insane because

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it'd be like a doubling on an annual

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rate but

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next month the airline prices are 112

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dollars that's a 12

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increase month over month we want to

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potentially see that stay

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at let's say go to 113 you know that's a

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little less than one percent

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maybe even stabilize where we have a

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zero percent bump month over month

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you know if we get something like oh

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it's 120 that's still a big bump

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we're still getting a large push in

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things like airline or car

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rental truck pricing right or which

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could be really good for

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inflationary purposes we see airline

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prices or car rental prices or whatever

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start coming down again to something

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like oh it's going to go to 110.

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now we actually have month over month

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deflation

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so that's going to be pretty big we're

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going to be paying close attention

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to what the numbers look like in uh in

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the other aspects like within the data

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or as dronepal says

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under the hood this is really important

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now headline

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news is probably not going to pay

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attention so much

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to the weeds like we do but as investors

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we like to pay attention to the weeds

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what i can tell you the bureau of labor

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statistics article is likely going to

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show

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on on most headline news articles

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is going to be something as simple as

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this is how much inflation we had

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month over month in june and month over

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month in may

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we had point six percent point six

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percent

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for the expectations for june at least

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what wall street believes

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we think we're going to see point five

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percent that's what wall street thinks

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so if we hop on over here and we draw

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this out we can see if wall street

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expects

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0.5 percent last month was this will put

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last last month was 0.6 then we can kind

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of take a little bit of a guess in terms

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of what we would expect

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in the actual market and kind of

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reactions for the market

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so if let's say month over month

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inflation which is much more important

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than the big headline number

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last month the big headline number was

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having five percent inflation which is

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crazy that's

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year over year so this is month over

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month

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and this is year over year the current

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expectations are

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4.9 percent for year over year measure

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in

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june now i personally believe that this

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number

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should start declining rapidly here

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potentially in july but more likely by

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september and october

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so this ideally for june what we're

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looking for in my opinion

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is a number that's stable or slightly

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lower which is actually what wall street

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is expecting

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and then we're on course for hopefully a

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better inflection point to the downside

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with inflation

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by september and october in september

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october i believe these numbers are

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going to be under 3

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again year over year now let's uh let's

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estimate what we think

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and how how the market might respond to

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this right so

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first things first let's talk if the

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headline number so we're going to do

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headline number first if the headline

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expectation is 4.9

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and we come in with something like 4.4

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i would expect things like tech and

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consumer discretionary to do

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very well if inflation numbers come in

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higher something like anything really

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with a five in the front

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i would expect banks and financials to

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do better

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and the reason i would expect banks and

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financials to do better is generally as

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interest rates arise

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their profit margins can go up the same

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would be true for something like a

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rocket mortgage

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but the more we have interest rates

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potentially

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trend downwards because inflation

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risks are subsiding then it's no

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surprise that we see like rocket

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mortgage or united wholesale mortgage

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company

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these sorts of companies do poorly or

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banks maybe not do as well as they

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previously have

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one way that you can kind of see how the

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market is expecting changes in inflation

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is by looking at the 10-year treasury

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yield or the 10-year break

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even which works with tips i'm just

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going to keep it pretty simple and i'm

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just going to look at 10 years usually

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what i do

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i look at 10-year inflation levels or

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sorry not 10-year

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inflation levels you look at a chart of

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10-year treasury bonds

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and when you pull that up you see this

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big fear of inflation

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starting around february of this year

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and that kind of fear of inflation

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really escaped

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starting i'd say somewhere around april

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and may

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which is really interesting because

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april and may is right when we started

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getting cpi data

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that was at its highest point and that's

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in my opinion when the market started

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realizing wait a minute

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the things that are causing the big

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inflation that we're seeing

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in april and may this is a charge of the

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10 years here

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those things are temporary and those are

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going to go away

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so even though we went into these high

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inflation expectations of oh my gosh we

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might see hyperinflation when we

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actually started getting the high

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inflation

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reports inflation expectations started

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waning

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and subsiding commodity prices started

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collapsing we started seeing the

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collapse of crypto prices which

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are someone somewhat and sometimes often

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seen as an inflation

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hedge and so we start seeing those sorts

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of prices collapse or fall

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because the inflation data is showing

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wait a minute the inflation is only in

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temporary things again like

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airline tickets or rental cars and

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things like that well then it's no

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surprise that we see these treasury

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yields that go

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down and we see some of the other

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aspects of markets expecting

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lower inflation now when i say the

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markets potentially expect lower

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inflation

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know that not everyone agrees that

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inflation is going to be

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lower in fact around 50 people think

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inflation is going to be worse

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we even have this new york fed survey

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that just came out in june

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which says that the public expects

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inflation at 4.8

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percent and three years from now

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believes that inflation will still be

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around 3.6

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which i expect in about one year will be

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at

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potentially even under two percent so i

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personally believe that we'll have much

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lower inflation but i just want to make

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that clear because it's kind of a 50 50

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thing like which side of the coin are

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you want

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or maybe you're even in the middle right

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but expected inflation a year from now

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so 12 months out the new york fed survey

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of the public indicates the public

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thinks right now that we're going to see

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4.8 percent inflation

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and now this is the highest level of

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this survey going back to 2013.

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so in other words a year from now the

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public still thinks inflation is going

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to be over

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four percent and over three percent

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three years from now

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this is potentially in my opinion

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because right now we

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are in a moment of seeing high temporary

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inflation high

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you know wages going up in retail

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sectors and businesses reopening

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wages going up in uh hospitality prices

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for airline tickets prices for cars all

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these things going up

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but a lot of these things are temporary

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and associated with a reopening

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in fact when you look at jobs data you

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look at the jobs report and you

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take out hospitality you're like wait a

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minute wages only went up

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0.1 percent which is an annual rate of

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1.2 percent

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for wages not related to the reopening

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in other words things that are related

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or potentially propped up because of the

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temporary

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supply shortages of oh my gosh we got to

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reopen really fast again right

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so let's go back to expectations here if

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we see something like 4.4 to 4.6 percent

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somewhere around here

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i'd expect tech consumer discretionary

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to do pretty nicely tesla

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etsy some of these others uh right here

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i think uh

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we will uh let's see fine okay yeah

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around five percent or above

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i think banks will start doing well if

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we get something in the middle it'll be

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a pretty neutral

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uh kind of response as an expectation so

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uh then

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if we jump on over to here let's do

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just an expectation on month over month

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so the month over month expectation is

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going to be 0.5

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i think on month over month honestly

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anything under

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0.3 is just going to be potentially even

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just euphoric

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i don't think we're going to get

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anything under 0.3 month over month

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because we're just not at that

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inflection point yet i think we'll start

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seeing these numbers in september and

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october

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unless we're starting to see that

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deceleration happen even faster

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so that's going to be a key marker here

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so we're going to get under 0.3 i don't

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think so

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but that would be a big deal now if we

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uh ended up month over month getting

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anything

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crazy which crazy in my opinion would be

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like 0.9

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or above that would be bad for consumer

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discretionary tech

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good for banks and and some of the

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financials right so hopefully this gives

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you a little bit of a guide again i'll

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be

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live streaming this at 5 30 a.m

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california time tomorrow 8 30

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eastern time and folks hopefully you

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enjoyed this sort of preview of what to

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expect tomorrow

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thanks for watching and we'll see in the

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next one

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