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hey everyone kevin here let's talk about
inflation expectations because guess
what's happening tomorrow tomorrow
we have the cpi data release which does
mean i will be up at 5 30 in the morning
which is kind of crazy but i'm going to
be up at 5 30 in the morning so if you
want to see the cpi data release
live i will be covering it but first
let's talk about
what expectations are and what happened
last month because last month we got
inflation data that let us know
how did prices change for consumer
prices
between april and may now we're going to
get price changes
between may and june since we're in july
and we're going to learn about
june inflation readings now the first
thing that's really useful to do is know
where we had some big pain points last
time
and that was here on things like a car
and truck rental prices
going up 12.1 percent month
over month which is insane there's a
massive
bum 4 increase in public transportation
seven percent increase in airline fees
these are some
big big big numbers so this month
look comparing essentially the end of
may or the middle of may
to the middle to end of june we want to
potentially see
those airline figures those ticket
prices going
down or stabilizing see zero
means they're still up right and that's
important to know the easy way to
picture this is here actually let's
explain it like this
go over here if let's say an airline
ticket is a hundred dollars and
then next month which is insane because
it'd be like a doubling on an annual
rate but
next month the airline prices are 112
dollars that's a 12
increase month over month we want to
potentially see that stay
at let's say go to 113 you know that's a
little less than one percent
maybe even stabilize where we have a
zero percent bump month over month
you know if we get something like oh
it's 120 that's still a big bump
we're still getting a large push in
things like airline or car
rental truck pricing right or which
could be really good for
inflationary purposes we see airline
prices or car rental prices or whatever
start coming down again to something
like oh it's going to go to 110.
now we actually have month over month
deflation
so that's going to be pretty big we're
going to be paying close attention
to what the numbers look like in uh in
the other aspects like within the data
or as dronepal says
under the hood this is really important
now headline
news is probably not going to pay
attention so much
to the weeds like we do but as investors
we like to pay attention to the weeds
what i can tell you the bureau of labor
statistics article is likely going to
show
on on most headline news articles
is going to be something as simple as
this is how much inflation we had
month over month in june and month over
month in may
we had point six percent point six
percent
for the expectations for june at least
what wall street believes
we think we're going to see point five
percent that's what wall street thinks
so if we hop on over here and we draw
this out we can see if wall street
expects
0.5 percent last month was this will put
last last month was 0.6 then we can kind
of take a little bit of a guess in terms
of what we would expect
in the actual market and kind of
reactions for the market
so if let's say month over month
inflation which is much more important
than the big headline number
last month the big headline number was
having five percent inflation which is
crazy that's
year over year so this is month over
month
and this is year over year the current
expectations are
4.9 percent for year over year measure
in
june now i personally believe that this
number
should start declining rapidly here
potentially in july but more likely by
september and october
so this ideally for june what we're
looking for in my opinion
is a number that's stable or slightly
lower which is actually what wall street
is expecting
and then we're on course for hopefully a
better inflection point to the downside
with inflation
by september and october in september
october i believe these numbers are
going to be under 3
again year over year now let's uh let's
estimate what we think
and how how the market might respond to
this right so
first things first let's talk if the
headline number so we're going to do
headline number first if the headline
expectation is 4.9
and we come in with something like 4.4
i would expect things like tech and
consumer discretionary to do
very well if inflation numbers come in
higher something like anything really
with a five in the front
i would expect banks and financials to
do better
and the reason i would expect banks and
financials to do better is generally as
interest rates arise
their profit margins can go up the same
would be true for something like a
rocket mortgage
but the more we have interest rates
potentially
trend downwards because inflation
risks are subsiding then it's no
surprise that we see like rocket
mortgage or united wholesale mortgage
company
these sorts of companies do poorly or
banks maybe not do as well as they
previously have
one way that you can kind of see how the
market is expecting changes in inflation
is by looking at the 10-year treasury
yield or the 10-year break
even which works with tips i'm just
going to keep it pretty simple and i'm
just going to look at 10 years usually
what i do
i look at 10-year inflation levels or
sorry not 10-year
inflation levels you look at a chart of
10-year treasury bonds
and when you pull that up you see this
big fear of inflation
starting around february of this year
and that kind of fear of inflation
really escaped
starting i'd say somewhere around april
and may
which is really interesting because
april and may is right when we started
getting cpi data
that was at its highest point and that's
in my opinion when the market started
realizing wait a minute
the things that are causing the big
inflation that we're seeing
in april and may this is a charge of the
10 years here
those things are temporary and those are
going to go away
so even though we went into these high
inflation expectations of oh my gosh we
might see hyperinflation when we
actually started getting the high
inflation
reports inflation expectations started
waning
and subsiding commodity prices started
collapsing we started seeing the
collapse of crypto prices which
are someone somewhat and sometimes often
seen as an inflation
hedge and so we start seeing those sorts
of prices collapse or fall
because the inflation data is showing
wait a minute the inflation is only in
temporary things again like
airline tickets or rental cars and
things like that well then it's no
surprise that we see these treasury
yields that go
down and we see some of the other
aspects of markets expecting
lower inflation now when i say the
markets potentially expect lower
inflation
know that not everyone agrees that
inflation is going to be
lower in fact around 50 people think
inflation is going to be worse
we even have this new york fed survey
that just came out in june
which says that the public expects
inflation at 4.8
percent and three years from now
believes that inflation will still be
around 3.6
which i expect in about one year will be
at
potentially even under two percent so i
personally believe that we'll have much
lower inflation but i just want to make
that clear because it's kind of a 50 50
thing like which side of the coin are
you want
or maybe you're even in the middle right
but expected inflation a year from now
so 12 months out the new york fed survey
of the public indicates the public
thinks right now that we're going to see
4.8 percent inflation
and now this is the highest level of
this survey going back to 2013.
so in other words a year from now the
public still thinks inflation is going
to be over
four percent and over three percent
three years from now
this is potentially in my opinion
because right now we
are in a moment of seeing high temporary
inflation high
you know wages going up in retail
sectors and businesses reopening
wages going up in uh hospitality prices
for airline tickets prices for cars all
these things going up
but a lot of these things are temporary
and associated with a reopening
in fact when you look at jobs data you
look at the jobs report and you
take out hospitality you're like wait a
minute wages only went up
0.1 percent which is an annual rate of
1.2 percent
for wages not related to the reopening
in other words things that are related
or potentially propped up because of the
temporary
supply shortages of oh my gosh we got to
reopen really fast again right
so let's go back to expectations here if
we see something like 4.4 to 4.6 percent
somewhere around here
i'd expect tech consumer discretionary
to do pretty nicely tesla
etsy some of these others uh right here
i think uh
we will uh let's see fine okay yeah
around five percent or above
i think banks will start doing well if
we get something in the middle it'll be
a pretty neutral
uh kind of response as an expectation so
uh then
if we jump on over to here let's do
just an expectation on month over month
so the month over month expectation is
going to be 0.5
i think on month over month honestly
anything under
0.3 is just going to be potentially even
just euphoric
i don't think we're going to get
anything under 0.3 month over month
because we're just not at that
inflection point yet i think we'll start
seeing these numbers in september and
october
unless we're starting to see that
deceleration happen even faster
so that's going to be a key marker here
so we're going to get under 0.3 i don't
think so
but that would be a big deal now if we
uh ended up month over month getting
anything
crazy which crazy in my opinion would be
like 0.9
or above that would be bad for consumer
discretionary tech
good for banks and and some of the
financials right so hopefully this gives
you a little bit of a guide again i'll
be
live streaming this at 5 30 a.m
california time tomorrow 8 30
eastern time and folks hopefully you
enjoyed this sort of preview of what to
expect tomorrow
thanks for watching and we'll see in the
next one
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