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in the great 1974 film The Godfather II

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there's a scene about halfway through

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where Hyman Roth and Michael Corleone

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and all the American gangsters are

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gathering a Patty on Havana and it's

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Hyman Ross 67th birthday and he's giving

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a slice of the cake each game she's got

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Louie from Chicago you run the

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Copacabana Frankie you get the

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prostitutes he's dividing up the island

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among all American gangsters and they're

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appropriately enough the birthday cake

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has the outline of cube on us is giving

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him a slice of Cuba and while Hyman Roth

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is doing this he says isn't it great to

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be in a country with the government that

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respects private Enterprise and that's

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how media policies have been done in the

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United States for the past 50 years so

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it's increasingly in the last 20 years

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extraordinarily powerful lobbyists duke

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it out behind closed doors for the

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biggest slice of the cake the public

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knows nothing about it it doesn't

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participate and that's the problem we

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face

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foreign

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media is the nervous system of a

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democracy if it's not functioning well

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the Democracy can't function we're

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heading toward an election where

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most people are never going to be in a

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room with Carrie or bush what they learn

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about the candidates will be what the

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media shows them or tells them decides

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not to show not to tell

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people are faced with critical choices

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about the future of the country when

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they go into the voting booth and I go

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in and I have been through the course of

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a campaign cycle subject to false

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distorted caricaturing and I may not

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even know where it's coming from because

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often there's an echo effect off places

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like cable and like radio and those

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wrong pieces of information are repeated

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and repeated by the time it reaches me I

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don't even know what the source was this

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is the environment we're living in and

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it's it's it's really it's it's

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fundamentally undermining democracy

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which is based on knowing some good and

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solid information so I can make an

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informed choice

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when you see the properties Rupert

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Murdoch owns around the world the strong

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conservative point of view that those

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properties often reflect it's different

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than ABC or CBS or NBC sure they reflect

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a point of view but not nearly as strong

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and not nearly as consistently from one

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ideological perspective

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Murdoch actually bought the station in

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1985 and actually left us alone for at

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least the first three years of his

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ownership partly because we were so

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successful and prosperous that there was

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no reason to monkey with us at wttg our

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success

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insulated us to a certain degree and it

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was kind of like being in an office and

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seeing people come down with the flu

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around you we knew the flu eventually

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might reach us but we were hoping if we

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took enough vitamins that we'd never

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catch the flu it was clear during those

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years

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that Murdoch who had absolutely adored

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Ronald Reagan adored him had a lot of

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admiration for the group of Republicans

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that controlled Congress and certainly

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on Capitol Hill we received an order

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from one of Murdoch's apparatchics if

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you will that we should cut away from

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our newscast and start carrying a

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fawning tribute to Ronald Reagan that

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was airing at the Republican convention

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we were stunned because up until that

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point we were allowed to do legitimate

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news and suddenly we were ordered from

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the top to carry propaganda carry

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Republican right-wing propaganda there

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was a cultural

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underpinning to what Murdoch wanted race

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issues AIDS I constantly remember

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complaints that there was too much being

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done on AIDS he also couldn't stand the

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Kennedys Ted Kennedy was a long time

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opponent of Rupert Murdoch uh and and

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one a celebrated occasion we were

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ordered to run a long uncut piece from a

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current affair uh that was rehashing the

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whole matter of Chappaquiddick it had

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zero news value we were told you had to

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run this thing uncut you could not even

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edit it down and just run a snippet of

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it I think they evolved in later years

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especially after Roger Ailes took over

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and and really got the Fox News Channel

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up and running into a far more

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sophisticated kind of operation what we

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saw in my era was was really the the

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birth of this sort of thing and the

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roots of what came later I just have to

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say it had a light as I am that we've

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now reached this moment when we can

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firmly announce the starting of a Fox

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News Channel and a much greater effort

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on the build up of Fox News in every

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area we'd like to be Premier journalists

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we'd like to restore objectivity where

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we find it lacking and and certainly uh

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there there could be that interpretation

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because of my background but I left

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politics a number of years ago and have

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run a news Organization for the last two

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years so we just expect to do fine

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balanced journalism

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when you lose and I'm dead

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I was about to play for three years I

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worked in 10 years on air or behind the

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camera

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I think I'd rather keep myself anonymous

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yeah I've heard directly from folks both

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as correspondents and as Bookers who've

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expressed very great reservations almost

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uh as if they're being monitored by a

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stalinous system afraid to be seen

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talking to the wrong person or having

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the wrong kind of Email exchange

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foreign

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you're either one of us or one of them

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and in leaving Fox News for example uh

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there were a number of people at the

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organization to head of the organization

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tried to ruin my career simply because I

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was leaving because I didn't leave on

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their terms because I refused to sign a

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confidentiality agreement that was

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another reason for them to try to keep

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me from getting my next job

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very much an environment of fear it was

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made very clear to us that our

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activities were being monitored and if

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someone wasn't watching it live they

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were at least recording it and they

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would review it after the fact to see

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what we did we weren't necessarily as it

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was told to us a news Gathering

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organization so much as we were a

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proponent of a point of view fox has

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already been successful in sort of

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branding the uh some of you can't be

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trusted and as a result

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I've already sorted my thin ice

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regarding my current employer

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foreign

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I'd been warned by people there were a

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number of people who pulled me inside

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and said look you know

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I don't know I mean I know that you want

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to work and I know that you need a job

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but you might want to think twice about

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taking this job because really it is a

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very conservative news network now that

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I've learned comedy writing at Fox News

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Channel I guess I should be doing

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stand-up in the clubs if you don't go

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along with the mindset of the hierarchy

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of New York if you challenge them on

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their attitudes about things

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your history

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I suspect your research has discovered

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the memoranda that were written by John

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Moody and by Roger uh in terms of

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setting the tone for the day uh the

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message of the day is a very political

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device

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let's spend a good deal of time on the

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battle over judicial nominations which

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the president will address this morning

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nominees who both sides admit are

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qualified are being held up because of

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their possible not demonstrated views on

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one issue abortion this should be a

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trademark issue for fnc today and in the

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days to come

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there was nothing covert about the way

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the managing editors in New York or

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Washington operated they made it

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perfectly clear what they expected from

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us

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the so-called 911 Commission has already

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been meeting this is not what did he

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know and when did he know it stuff do

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not turn this into Watergate

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every morning there was a detailed list

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of subjects to talk about not talk about

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Gary's speech on the economy at

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Georgetown is likely to move on to the

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topic of Iraq we should take the

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beginning of the Kerry speech and see if

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other news at the time is more

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compelling it is not required to take it

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start to finish

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they were just actually issuing edicts

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to the reporters to control what they

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could say and how they could say it

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let's refer to the U.S Marines we see in

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the foreground as Sharpshooters not

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snipers which carries a negative

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connotation

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when headquarters sent the memo every

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morning and said we want to touch on the

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following issues we want to cover the

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following stories we want to do them in

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this particular way our job and our

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objective then was to execute the plan

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the pictures from Abu gray prison are

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disturbing today we have a picture aired

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on Al Arabia of an American hostage

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being held with a scarf over his eyes

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clearly against his will who's outraged

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on his behalf

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the real revolutionary breakthrough of

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fox has been its eliminated journalism I

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mean that's the thing to understand what

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Fox News channel has done is it's

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stripped out any notion of Journalism as

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we've traditionally understood it from

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its product there is no journalism at

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the Fox News Channel

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Chad I want to test if you're an honest

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individual

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stuff here but my religion didn't teach

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me that but thank you very much for

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being here it's a right-wing Network and

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you don't want to hear this stuff you

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want to do it not about the kids it's

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about you Jimmy okay thank you James

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yes thank you Jamie thank you

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inappropriate taking a cheap little

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pathetic shot I am telling you that

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that's you're taking cheap little

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pathetic shots tell you what the truth

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is no you're misrepresenting his record

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I'm telling the truth sir that's the

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truth about his record I understand what

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your positions is not correct I'd like

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to hear one word

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get on regular radios Paula Evans

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Winston-Salem North Carolina Bill if you

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are so concerned about public figures

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being bad role models for children

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please stop rudely interrupting your

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guests and telling them to shut up well

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the shut up line has happened only once

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in six years Miss Evans well you know I

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think that asking a student to stay in

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the closet in order to go shut up about

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African-Americans

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shut up his respect why did you have to

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tell him you were an atheist if you

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didn't have any trouble reading the

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Oaths why didn't you just shut up what

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Jimmy Carter should do is privately give

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Mr Bush's opinion and shut up publicly

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that would be best for the country and

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it is our duty as loyal Americans to

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shut up once the fighting begins once

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the war against Saddam begins we expect

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every American to support our military

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and if they can't do that to shut up all

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he's got in six and a half years is that

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I misspoke that I labeled a poke award

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at Peabody he writes in his book he

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tries to make me out no no no no no no

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no shut up you had your 35 minutes shut

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up

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the techniques of pull odd polling and

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odd Graphics of Democrats and weird

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banners in the lower third of your

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screen these are all pretty

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sophisticated techniques and they work

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in collaboration with the most genius

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marketing slogan in history which is

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fair and balanced

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so if you're the graphics department and

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you can put up a liberal flip-flopper as

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the Chiron hey that's great because the

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next time the graphics department has a

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discussion with management management

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say yeah you guys have been doing a

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great job Graphics are always moving in

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the background they've sort of pioneered

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the use of the American flag as as an

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icon of your news broadcast so there's a

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lot of stuff that people come up with on

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their own which in other news

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organizations you'd never think of

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coming up with some of the stuff much

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less even putting it on the air but at

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Fox News there's sort of the you're

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rewarded for pushing the envelope and if

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you're pushing the envelope against the

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Democrat and in support of Republican

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that's great the problem comes if you

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try to push the envelope or God forbid

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should put in some sort of similar sort

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of style or approach to Republican then

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you get yourself in trouble probably

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19.99 I created the Fox News Alert we

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were striving to accomplish a sense of

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urgency

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urgency in the sense that what was about

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to be delivered after the Fox News Alert

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was very important quote unquote

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shocking news specifically Columbine and

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all the other important news stories of

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that time but now looking back now that

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I'm not there I find it interesting that

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I've seen the Fox News Alert used for

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stories like benefit JLo and Ben's

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relationship I mean this compared to a

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school shooting and there's really no

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relationship to me and I don't

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understand why based on what we

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originally created it for uh why they

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would choose to use it for a story like

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that because the sound and the visuals

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Associated or originally was associated

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with things that were much more

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important

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and this is a Fox News Alert a very busy

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day for Martha Stewart earlier today she

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met with her parole officer no they

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deliberately blur it and I find it I

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find it very hard to believe you know

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there's no separation between Bill

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O'Reilly the interviewer and Bill

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O'Reilly with his talking points I mean

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there's just no separation at all Jimmy

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Carter is making yet another mistake and

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this time there's no excuse for it and

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that's a memo now for the top story

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tonight another view on this it's very

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hard on Fox News to separate news from

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commentary because it all Blends

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together that's what makes it so

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ridiculous that slogan we report you

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decide because there's no TV news

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channel in history that's ever reported

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less for example a Brit Hume newscast

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um which is presented as a newscast

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um I think you you see a lot of attitude

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and opinion uh both from the anchor and

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from the reports welcome to Washington

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I'm Brit Hume there was further Evidence

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today that President Bush's days of

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absorbing John Kerry's attacks with

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without counter-attack are over Fox

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blurs the line between these in

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commentary all over the place we are too

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believed that Brit Hume is the anchor of

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a news Outlet he doesn't bring strong

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politics to it he just happens to Anchor

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the newscast like Peter Jennings on

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Sundays Brit Hume turns into a rather

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caustic right wing pundit look this goes

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to Murdoch too he doesn't believe in

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objectivity he doesn't believe he has

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contempt for journalism I think I mean

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they wanted all news to be a matter of

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opinion

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because opinion can't be proven false

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and I think that's very dangerous

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because if people don't have a set of

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facts that they can agree on I think

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it's difficult to reach a consensus on

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you know what's correct public policy it

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wasn't so much

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a scripted design that promoted the off

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the cuff ad-libs that you see so often

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on Fox News Channel it was sort of a

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reinforcement John Kerry is Jane Fonda

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with the Burberry scarf tied around his

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neck any ad-lib that made the Democrats

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look stupid and made the Republicans

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look smart would get an attaboy uh so a

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pat on the back a wink or a nod well you

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know there's an old Pizza expression

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you've tried all the rest now try the

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best some people say especially on that

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paddle there those Commissioners that

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Condoleezza Rice might be the best and

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we haven't heard from her publicly at

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least are you saying the commission's

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cheesy that you wouldn't say that no

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they're crusty on the panel okay John

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Kerry has Kim Jong-il on his side

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Barbara Streisand you could go wrong

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North Korea loves uh loves John Kerry

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really yeah there's no sense of

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Integrity as far as having a line they

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can't be crossed not having that sort of

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line becomes very tempting for someone

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to self-promote by crossing the line

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saying something funny that you would

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never dare say if you were stepping back

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and looking at it from the sense of a

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journalism school and is this the right

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thing for journalism would never happen

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other journalists use phrases like some

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people say or officials say when they're

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trying to insert anonymously information

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in a story that sort of advances the

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storyline Fox does it in a different way

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some people say is fox's cue that I'm

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pretending to be an anchor so I can't

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say this is my opinion or this is Roger

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Ailes opinion but some people say some

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people say that'd be a pretty good

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choice bring in the Hispanic some people

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saying ah he's posturing some people say

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and excuse me I'll get to you Joe in

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just a second but some people say that

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you may be setting up Sharpton for a run

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against Hillary in 2006 in the Senate

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journalistically it's a very peculiar

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technique because the idea behind

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journalism is that you're sourcing who

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you're referring to this is just sort of

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a clever way of of inserting political

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opinion when you know it probably

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shouldn't be there some people say that

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this might undermine what the US troops

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are doing there some people say some

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people say John Kerry has some

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similarities to an earlier Massachusetts

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politician and some people say in light

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of what's happened with the oil for food

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program some people say supported by

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Iran some say I've heard a couple people

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say some say that it's a sour grapes

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book some people say some people say

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some people say it's just too violent

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there's too much blood some people say

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some people say well some people say

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some people say some say it some people

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say some are saying some people say

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there's some people who say something if

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not major has already happened those are

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his words some people say it's

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exploitive what do you say to that

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I was given a folder a little binder

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that had the names of all the Fox News

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Consultants you know the people who were

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paid to come on the air to give their

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opinions to be a Fox News contributor

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means you're under contract and you're

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getting paid to set them out joining us

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in DC is Larry Johnson former CIA

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officer and former deputy director of

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the state Department's office of

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counterterrorism my services were in

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great demand in December of 2001. the

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contract expired in January of 2003. and

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the first thing that I noticed was that

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I recognized all of the conservatives

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who were in the roster they were very

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well-known people who would come from

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you know talk radio or from some sort of

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political background

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and so I knew all of those people and

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they were very very strong people I came

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in and was always you know I was going

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to call it as I saw it for example the

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edict came down apparently to stop

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referring to Suicide bombings in Israel

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as suicide bombings they call them

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homicide bombings I thought that was

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stupid and I continue to call them

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suicide bombings because every bombing

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that kills someone is a homicide bombing

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but when I looked at the liberal roster

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there was only one person's name who I

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recognized which I recognized and that

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was Bob Shrum who is a very well-known

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speechwriter and political consultant in

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Washington

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the other ones though were people I'd

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never heard of my entire background was

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in politics and political journalism so

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I knew pretty much all the players in DC

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and I'd never heard of these people the

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question came up about the ability of

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the United States to fight two Wars

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simultaneously going into Iraq is going

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to divert resources and attention that

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should be focused on Al Qaeda and Sean

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Hannity being the you know right-wing

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cheerleader that he is was just you know

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incense that I was to add the temerity

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to suggest that we couldn't we do have

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the ability and the resources to we're

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able to walk and chew gum we could

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handle the situation in Iraq and we can

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still finish the job of protecting

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against al Qaeda in another attack what

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happens is when the resources end up

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getting diverted and particularly the

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airlift assets required facts don't seem

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to have any effect upon him what was

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unusual is it was after that appearance

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that even though I was under contract to

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Fox for another uh eight weeks roughly

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they stopped using me

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your government failed you

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those entrusted with protecting you

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failed you

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and I failed you

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and for that failure

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I would ask

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once all the facts are out

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for your understanding

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and for your forgiveness

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when Richard Clark emerged it was

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obvious this was a danger to the

21:48

administration because he had worked at

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the highest echelons of the Bush

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Administration and it was almost like

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Fox News was working off of The Playbook

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coming out of the White House that he

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had to be torn down he had to be turned

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into a Democrat a liberal a carry guy he

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is bringing this up in the heat of a

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presidential campaign can you assume

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from what he's saying that he has now

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become a political do you feel that

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there is a political he is as some have

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suggested auditioning for a job in the

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Carrie Administration sucking up to

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another Administration said when he came

22:21

to me to ask for my support with Tom

22:24

Ridge angling for a top job and Homeland

22:27

Security Department and did not get it

22:29

see one of the things that fox does and

22:30

conservatives do is they don't have to

22:32

win every argument but if they can muddy

22:35

the argument enough if they can turn it

22:37

into a draw that to them is a victory

22:40

because it denies the other side of

22:42

Victory well Sean I either there are

22:44

apparently two dick clocks here Dick

22:46

Clark has been on three sides of a

22:48

two-sided issue he's totally

22:50

contradicted himself his statements are

22:52

contradictory a lot of information that

22:53

contradicts Clark aren't there

22:55

insufficient contradictions he has

22:57

written a book and he certainly wants to

23:00

go out there and promote that book is he

23:04

just out to sell a book who's out to

23:05

sell his book did he have a motive

23:07

behind writing the book and going out on

23:09

60 Minutes and criticizing the bush

23:11

administrationally this guy's Hawking a

23:13

book unveiling his book an appalling Act

23:15

of profits here who rakes Bush over the

23:18

calls and gives Clinton a pass now in

23:19

the book gives Clinton a complete pass

23:22

easily Clark treats uh built the Bill

23:24

Clinton

23:25

concerns about where the truth lies and

23:28

what Richard Clark was saying they

23:30

launched a major smear campaign in some

23:32

ways it worked I thought number one he

23:35

was extremely melodramatic and that he

23:37

was in toning with great pathos I mean I

23:40

it seems it almost seemed like it was a

23:43

performance and it was just attack

23:45

politics

23:47

on a TV channel usually you leave attack

23:50

politics to a political campaign Carol

23:52

rovin company are quite good at

23:53

character assassination you know there

23:55

are all these people dozens of people in

23:56

the White House paid for by you and I

23:58

paid for by our taxes right writing

24:01

talking points calling up conservative

24:03

columnists calling up talk radio host

24:05

telling them what to say it's

24:06

interesting all the talk radio people

24:08

the right wing talk radio people all

24:10

across the country saying exact the same

24:11

thing exactly same words I noticed that

24:13

I was watching it there's a 24-hour News

24:15

Network and I'm sure it's a coincidence

24:16

but what they were saying was remarkably

24:19

similar to what the the White House was

24:21

saying and I couldn't help but thinking

24:22

uh how funny that was

24:25

the we are bringing diversity of opinion

24:28

uh we are there is diversity of opinion

24:31

on Fox News you may disagree with that

24:33

we have many liberals there many liberal

24:36

uh invited we have a liberal

24:38

commentators as we have conservative

24:39

ones who are your liberal commentators

24:41

Alan combs for one

24:44

um

24:45

Greta Van sustrian

24:47

um you know it's in the eye of the

24:49

beholder I guess again until what

24:51

they'll try to put on uh the appearance

24:53

of being balanced but really kind of a

24:55

mismatch you'll have a Hannity and comb

24:57

show where Hannity is a really a

24:59

good-looking clean-cut All-American kind

25:02

of guy and and his counterpart is a

25:04

little squirrely looking frankly and you

25:06

kind of say he's the liberal well maybe

25:07

he's not so smart after all and and it

25:10

sends a subtle message I think you're a

25:12

good liberal good liberal good liberal a

25:15

lot of the times the Liberals that they

25:16

get to appear on are either uh you know

25:19

faux liberals like I would use Susan

25:21

Estridge as an example of that a person

25:23

who was brought on who essentially

25:24

agrees with the person on the right in a

25:27

lot of cases I am your biggest liberal

25:30

friend I do take a little heat people

25:32

sometimes say to me do you really like

25:34

Sean Hannon what's not to like what does

25:37

that mean I thought I was Sean's biggest

25:38

liberal friend I I you know I love you

25:40

all friends or they would just bring on

25:43

people who were very week you know

25:46

people who were not well-known people we

25:48

can learn from history because if we

25:49

don't we're condemned to repeat it in

25:52

the facts you're going to get one guy

25:54

Clark accusing Bush saying Clinton

25:56

really you know giving him a pass then

25:58

you're going to get the Bush

25:59

Administration attacking Clark you're

26:01

not going to get the truth Marianne you

26:02

weren't there you don't know right

26:03

you're probably right about that in the

26:06

even the people who are supposedly

26:07

liberal in those panel discussions they

26:10

know that uh to challenge the guests and

26:13

the other hosts too forcefully

26:15

um we'll they'll they'll certainly find

26:17

someone else to stand in your place if

26:19

that's the case you're spinning now I'm

26:21

not I'm not right-wing I believe in

26:22

global warming

26:26

we looked at special reports one-on-one

26:29

interviews there once a day we studied

26:31

25 weeks of the one-on-one guest who

26:34

appeared on Special Report from late

26:37

June through mid-December of 2003.

26:41

Republicans appeared five times as often

26:44

as Democrats on one-on-one newsmaker

26:46

interviews that means that Republicans

26:48

made up 83 percent of the partisan

26:51

guests while Democrats made up just 17

26:53

percent in addition the few Democrats

26:57

that were interviewed for the show

26:59

tended to be Centrist and conservative

27:01

Democrats often brought on to a firm

27:05

Bush Administration policies so what

27:07

does this all mean well if Fox were the

27:09

Bastion of fairness and balance that it

27:11

claims to be we'd see a lot more balance

27:15

in this prominent interview segment on

27:18

the Network's most prestigious show

27:20

instead the numbers indicate that Brit

27:23

Hume and Special Report choose the their

27:26

guests based on political considerations

27:29

rather than news judgment

27:31

that's here on the Fox News Channel the

27:34

network America trusts for fair and

27:36

balanced news

27:38

my criticism of Fox News isn't that it's

27:41

a conservative channel it's the Consumer

27:43

Fraud of fair and balanced it's nothing

27:46

of the sort

27:50

you pitch a story in any given editorial

27:53

meeting that didn't meet the criteria

27:55

that they had explained to you and

27:58

you got a thumbs down when you have this

28:00

Executive Vice President and those

28:02

around and who are consistently saying

28:03

no we're not going to do that story no

28:05

the story is bad this story is good and

28:07

it becomes very clear to all the bureau

28:09

Chiefs to everybody involved who have

28:11

been there over a period of years there

28:13

are certain kinds of stories it's not

28:14

even worth bringing up there are other

28:16

kinds of stories that you know

28:17

Management's going to love Fox news

28:19

channels uh stated uh practice was to

28:24

embarrass humiliate challenge or disrupt

28:27

whatever Jesse Jackson did we were told

28:30

on many occasions that he was one of our

28:34

targets anything we could do or say that

28:37

would embarrass him discredit him

28:40

we were encouraged to find the

28:42

information and we were encouraged to

28:44

report the information

28:46

I did a piece on immigration and I

28:49

thought it was poignant to tell the

28:51

stories of these people and all of the

28:52

things that they had to go through to

28:54

get citizenship and how we take for

28:56

granted how really blessed we are to be

29:00

born with it and the line that I used in

29:03

describing their efforts was folks

29:07

seeking citizenship earned not born

29:10

suggesting that hey they really want

29:12

citizenship because they've got to go

29:14

through all these motions

29:15

what managing it was very angry because

29:18

who these people are they haven't earned

29:19

a thing they're just here for a free

29:21

ride they're just here trying to take

29:22

advantage of all of our freebies and and

29:25

I mean it was just uh he just laid waste

29:28

to the idea that these people were

29:30

hard-working

29:32

it was very specifically said we need to

29:34

be fair to the Bush Administration or to

29:36

the Republicans than anybody else in the

29:38

media would be but that was almost

29:40

understood as sort of a code for layoff

29:44

I am first to your knowledge of a

29:46

reporter who was basically yelled and

29:48

screamed at by Executives because that

29:51

reporter was asking tough questions of

29:52

James Baker at a news conference it was

29:54

a news conference that was being carried

29:56

live James Baker was saying we want to

29:58

count every vote And the reporter was

30:01

peppering with questions like wait a

30:02

second if you want to count every vote

30:03

why not go back and find the votes that

30:06

were not counted because of problems

30:07

with the Chad the reporters in New York

30:09

thought that this was a little too

30:10

confrontational the style never mind

30:13

that when Warren Christopher got out

30:15

there for Gore the questions were

30:16

equally tough there were no complaints

30:18

about the question and Christopher but

30:20

because the questions of James Baker

30:21

were so tough that reporter was pulled

30:23

off the story and said we can't trust

30:24

you anymore you didn't handle this story

30:26

very well go back to Washington

30:29

Ronald Reagan's birthday was for Fox

30:32

News Channel viewers something akin to a

30:35

holy day

30:36

this was Ronald Reagan's birthday and so

30:38

my assignment was to go to the Reagan

30:39

Presidential Library in Simi Valley

30:41

California and to do live shots from

30:44

Before Dawn until until dark there

30:48

weren't very many people at the

30:49

Presidential Library there wasn't a

30:51

celebration in any organized way going

30:53

on you know there was a class of fourth

30:55

graders who came to the library that day

30:57

to take the tour and they were lined up

31:00

and they sang Happy Birthday

31:02

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31:04

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31:05

but that was pretty much the extent of

31:08

the celebration

31:09

they saw my first three or four live

31:12

shots and Mr Moody called in to say what

31:16

is he doing out there apparently my live

31:19

shots weren't celebratory enough and I

31:22

was frankly at a bit of a loss as to

31:24

what to say or do to make it seem like

31:28

there was a big celebration since Dawn

31:32

they've been streaming in from all over

31:34

the country and even parts of Canada and

31:36

Mexico admire so I got in trouble for

31:38

that one I got in big trouble for that

31:40

one in fact I was suspended what you

31:42

will see of course is intensive

31:44

discussion about what we call the wedge

31:47

issues you'll hear you know affirmative

31:50

action you'll hear abortion you'll hear

31:52

certainly gay rights God in the

31:55

separation of church and state issues

31:57

will be on television every single day I

31:59

think this gay marriage thing is going

32:01

to be an enormous presidential issue but

32:04

there again we have to be fair in

32:06

Balance I mean we can't like run with

32:08

that

32:10

the Stampede of same-sex couples to the

32:13

altar has accelerated President Bush

32:15

says he's deeply troubled by the

32:16

hundreds two thousand same-sex couples

32:18

engaged in 2300 and Counting that's the

32:21

same-sex couples same-sex couples

32:24

wanting to say same-sex marriage their

32:27

job which is what the right-wing

32:29

Republicans want to do is to divide

32:31

America up ignore the important economic

32:33

health care environmental issues and

32:35

they do that extremely successfully they

32:37

did start up a gay marriage but I think

32:39

that they got sort of Blindsided they

32:41

all of a sudden couldn't show the usual

32:42

footage they used to show because they

32:44

used to love to show the footage of

32:45

course the parades and the black leather

32:47

and you know the drag queens then they

32:50

had you know very kind of normal looking

32:52

dumpy middle-aged couples getting

32:54

married and smooching on the steps of

32:55

City Hall so I've noticed a certain kind

32:59

of uh zest going out of the gay marriage

33:01

thing but that the opposite uh where

33:04

they've picked up the slack is on

33:06

anything to do with religion anything to

33:09

do with the 10K Commandments anything to

33:11

do with God why is Jesus so popular

33:14

right now well I think it depends on who

33:17

you talk to I think a lot of people

33:19

would say that one of the reasons that

33:21

he's very popular is that Mel Gibson's

33:23

movie has come out

33:24

George W bush because of all this he

33:27

wants to see it and I'm sure they will

33:29

set up a special screening there at the

33:30

White House oh sure you know he's a

33:32

devout Christian right apparently he

33:33

prays daily do they think it's about

33:35

just a movie just entertainment or do

33:37

they think that there's really something

33:38

bigger at work well I think they think

33:41

that there's something bigger at work

33:42

September 11th threatened people and

33:45

people look to Jesus for Comfort but

33:47

number two

33:48

um a line was drawn around the world

33:50

between two kinds of religions two kinds

33:53

of societies freedom is not this

33:55

country's gift to the world

33:58

freedom is the almighty's gift to every

34:00

man and woman in this world boy couldn't

34:02

you just see the elite media tremble

34:04

over that one the president knows

34:06

evoking the deity will anger the secular

34:08

media he doesn't care talking points

34:10

applaud they're going to push God very

34:13

very hard particularly going up in the

34:15

Bush's reelection

34:16

all of us working together can change

34:18

America One Soul at a time

34:21

Christian fundamentalist movement is one

34:24

that believes in we're right you're

34:26

wrong no matter what

34:28

and I saw a lot of that at Fox

34:31

we're right you're wrong no matter what

34:34

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34:37

The O'Reilly Factor is probably the

34:38

perfect example of everything that's

34:40

wrong with Fox News Channel you have

34:43

stories that are selected primarily to

34:45

upset liberals and and Democrats and

34:48

prop up the Republican party you have a

34:51

hostility towards guests that disagree

34:53

with the host and you have a host who in

34:56

service of his conservative politics

34:58

Will will distort facts will

35:01

misrepresent things and uh will in some

35:06

cases just fabricate in the personal

35:09

story segment tonight we were surprised

35:11

to find out that an American who lost

35:13

his father in the World Trade Center

35:14

attack had signed an anti-war

35:16

advertisement that accused the USA

35:18

itself of terrorism Jeremy Glick is the

35:21

son of a Port Authority worker who died

35:24

in at 9 11 and he had signed an anti-war

35:27

petition and O'Reilly had to have him on

35:30

and they were so persistent about

35:32

getting me on the O'Reilly show because

35:34

they found out that I was on The

35:36

Advisory Board and signed a statement

35:38

that was against the war and then I was

35:40

directly impacted by 9 11. the success

35:43

that I had on the O'Reilly show had to

35:46

do with just practice and preparation so

35:48

I taped the shows and what I did is I

35:51

took a stopwatch that I used to use for

35:52

running Sprints in high school and I

35:55

would see when he has a hostile guest

35:57

and I would time how long it takes for

35:59

him to cut them off you were the only

36:01

one I was surprised and the reason I was

36:03

surprised is that this ad equates the

36:07

United States with the terrorists I said

36:09

I'm shocked that you're surprised and

36:11

basically just made the only point I

36:13

wanted to make our current president now

36:16

inherited a legacy from his father and

36:18

inherited a political Legacy that's

36:21

responsible for training militarily

36:24

economically and situating

36:25

geopolitically the parties involved in

36:29

the alleged assassination and murder of

36:31

my father and countless of thousands of

36:33

others so I don't see why we should be

36:35

surprising for you to think all right

36:36

that I would come back and want to

36:38

support it

36:39

I'll tell you why it's surprising you

36:42

are a mouthing a far left position it

36:44

was extremely intimidating sitting down

36:46

in the studio because he's really tall

36:49

and like dude like he loves over you you

36:52

see even I'm sure your beliefs are

36:55

sincere but what upsets me is is I don't

36:57

think your father would be approving of

36:59

this well actually my father thought

37:01

that Bush's presidency was illegitimate

37:03

maybe but I don't think he'd be equating

37:06

this country as a terrorist Nation well

37:07

I wasn't saying that it was necessarily

37:09

like that yes

37:12

Jeremy was pretty cool during it and he

37:15

was giving his political views which

37:17

were very to the left of O'Reilly's and

37:19

he said oh I don't really care what you

37:21

think politically and I said obviously

37:23

you do care because a you brought me on

37:25

the show and B I told him that he uses

37:28

911 and sympathy with the 911 families

37:31

and the law and the lies lost to

37:34

rationalize his narrow right-wing agenda

37:36

you evoke sympathy

37:38

that's a bunch of crap so I've done more

37:41

for the 911 families by their own

37:43

admission I've done more for them than

37:45

you will ever hope to do okay so you

37:47

keep your mouth shut

37:49

knows people I don't represent and I

37:51

never represent you you know why why

37:52

because you have a warped view of this

37:55

world and a warp view of this country

37:56

we'll explain that let me give you an

37:58

example I'm not going to update this

37:59

with you let me give you an example of

38:00

parallel uh experience no on September

38:03

14th here's September 14th here's the

38:06

record all right you didn't support the

38:08

action against Afghanistan to remove the

38:10

Taliban you were against it why would I

38:12

want to brutalize and further punish the

38:14

people who killed your father

38:18

sure they did the al-Qaeda people would

38:21

train there the al-Qaeda people see I'm

38:23

more angry about it than you are so what

38:25

about George Bush what about George Bush

38:27

you have nothing to do with it the

38:28

director senior as director he had

38:30

nothing to do with people that trained a

38:33

hundred thousand who were I hope your

38:35

mom isn't watching us your mother is not

38:38

watching us it's unfair for O'Reilly to

38:41

evoke both my mom and my father in the

38:43

interview especially when I wasn't you

38:46

know I mean she my mom is a grieving

38:48

Widow for a prematurely volume of

38:50

violent horrific turn in their lives my

38:53

dad was only 55 he was they were working

38:56

people you know working class middle

38:58

class like they were not retiring for a

39:01

while they you know and their life is

39:03

basically destroyed you know their life

39:05

together is destroyed and destroyed in

39:08

circumstances that I wouldn't wish on my

39:11

worst enemies including Bill O'Reilly

39:13

because you that's it I'm not going to

39:16

say anymore okay in respect for your

39:18

father September I didn't know what I

39:20

was doing shut up his respect

39:23

in respect for your father who was a

39:25

Port Authority worker a fine American

39:27

who got killed unnecessarily by

39:30

Barbarian by radical extremists trained

39:32

by this government respect not the

39:34

people of America ruling class A small

39:37

minority cut his might I'm not going to

39:39

dress you down anymore out of respect

39:40

for your father we'll be back in a

39:42

moment we're done we're done

39:45

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39:47

you see him gesturing to security guards

39:50

and then came the after film performance

39:53

after they're off the air he said to the

39:56

kids on the effect get out of my studio

39:59

before I [ __ ] tear you to pieces

40:02

so Jeremy and I've talked to him since

40:05

went actually went to the Green Room to

40:07

get a cup of coffee and the executive

40:10

producer and the assistant encouraged me

40:13

to leave the building because they were

40:15

quote concerned that if O'Reilly ran

40:17

into me in the hallway he would end up

40:19

in jail

40:20

this is our house here if somebody comes

40:22

to your house and begins spitting on the

40:24

floor you'd remove them Glick was out of

40:27

control and spewing hatred for this

40:29

program and his country using vile

40:32

propaganda the next day I just turned on

40:34

and watch the the follow-up and saw my

40:37

views totally distorted next thing I

40:39

know I was saying Bush plan 911

40:42

Glick was saying without a shred of

40:44

evidence that President Bush and Bush

40:46

the Elder were directly responsible for

40:48

9 11. now that kind of stuff is not only

40:50

loony it's defamation that pains me as

40:53

as a fringe conspiracy nut this kid said

40:57

nothing nothing about President Bush and

41:01

his father Bush the Elder orchestrating

41:03

the attack on their own country so

41:05

O'Reilly's just lying here

41:08

he came on this program and accused

41:11

President Bush of knowing about 9 11 and

41:15

murdering his own father Glick said can

41:17

I sue him

41:20

and so I called the lawyer who was in my

41:23

case of the fox versus Dutton and

41:27

Franken he says well the kid has to

41:30

prove that O'Reilly knew he was lying

41:33

and O'Reilly is so crazy

41:37

he lies so pathologically

41:41

that it's harder to prove that O'Reilly

41:45

knew he was lying

41:47

so oddly enough if someone has a record

41:50

of crazily lying it is harder to sue

41:54

them for defamation

42:05

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42:06

an anthrax vaccine for 25 million the

42:10

key thing is don't be inhaling don't be

42:12

ingesting don't be sucking particles in

42:15

your body that could get the radiation

42:16

inside all right

42:21

first your advice is stay inside don't

42:24

drink or eat anything many of the themes

42:27

that are promoted on the Fox News

42:28

Channel have to do with generating fear

42:31

whether that's fear of immigration fear

42:34

of sexual difference a fear of racial

42:37

difference when you Pander to fear it's

42:40

a great motivator an organizer you've

42:43

got to keep people alarmed they really

42:44

love this sense of fear and danger even

42:47

when it's not there and so when

42:49

something is actually dangerous that's

42:51

some things are they go completely

42:54

overboard and all sense of perspective

42:56

is lost so that Anthrax which I guess

43:00

affected four or five people adversely

43:02

no question about it is far more

43:04

dangerous than you know the poisoning of

43:06

our air the way we deal with them is the

43:08

way President Bush is dealing with them

43:10

you Court in the area you search for

43:12

them and you shoot them the motivator is

43:14

fear and then the payoff is you know

43:16

we're going to go out and kill the bad

43:18

guys and you know it's a very simple

43:20

black and white world that they paint

43:22

and portray and terrorism has become the

43:25

all-purpose fear weapon because now

43:28

everything is converted into terrorism

43:30

and of course if you have a constant

43:32

sense of unease then you're going to

43:34

look to the government to protect you

43:35

you're going to look to strong

43:37

government we've removed from Power

43:39

enemies of this country we have made

43:41

America more secure

43:46

there are these enemy out there it's an

43:47

ill-defined enemy but as long as we're

43:49

fighting them and we're killing them and

43:51

he's looking presidential then nothing

43:54

else again is discussed what was

43:56

interesting is in the climate of the

43:57

Bush Administration that much of that

43:59

fear the emotion was purposely

44:03

misdirected by the right wing uh into

44:07

the war in Iraq the type of coverage Fox

44:10

offers and all of them offer but Fox is

44:12

probably the most pristine version is

44:14

completely consistent with Bush's um

44:17

with with the strategy of the push

44:19

Administration a to prevent discussion

44:23

of things that are not going well like

44:25

for instance the economy or the Medicare

44:27

bill there's no doubt that the war

44:29

against Iraq a country that did not

44:31

attack us could only proceed based on

44:34

fear tonight it's a special two-hour

44:36

block four is my last choice but the

44:39

risk of doing nothing is even a worse

44:41

option as far as I'm concerned dealing

44:43

with Iraq the president's war on terror

44:45

when will his military plans get put

44:47

into action we hope you depend on us for

44:49

the truth because we're going to report

44:50

the situation in Iraq without an agenda

44:53

or any ideological prejudice

44:59

then you gotta take what comes not that

45:02

we hate you Martin Sheen but that we may

45:04

not want to watch your television

45:05

program anymore because we're

45:07

identifying you with being against what

45:09

we believe in Americans and indeed are

45:11

foreign allies who actively work against

45:14

our military once the war is underway

45:15

will be considered enemies of the state

45:18

by me first are the Americans who went

45:21

over to Baghdad to act as human Shields

45:23

well are they more than just protesters

45:25

are they Traders so Harry Belafonte he's

45:27

at it again he says the Bush

45:29

Administration is possessed of evil as

45:32

the Calypso King on Bonkers you have a

45:35

right to say what you want but we have a

45:36

right not to buy your record just fair

45:39

warning to you Barbara Streisand and

45:41

others who see the world as you do we

45:43

don't want to demonize anyone but anyone

45:45

who hurts this country in a time like

45:47

this well let's just say you will be

45:49

spotlighted certainly television and

45:51

perhaps to an extent my station was

45:53

intimidated by the administration and

45:55

its foot soldiers at Fox News and it did

45:58

in fact put a climate of fear and

46:01

self-censorship in my view in terms of

46:04

of the kind of broadcast work we did

46:06

first rule of being a great propaganda

46:08

system and why our system is vastly

46:10

superior to anything in the old Soviet

46:11

Union it's not that people think they're

46:13

being subject to propaganda if people

46:15

don't think that they're looking for

46:17

that they're much easier to propagandize

46:19

and that's the genius of our media

46:20

systems a system of ideology of control

46:23

compared to an authoritarian system

46:26

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46:30

so we're making good progress in Iraq

46:33

sometimes it's hard to tell it when you

46:37

listen to the filter tremendous purpose

46:40

in Iraq all the kids are back in school

46:42

10 more than when Saddam Hussein was

46:44

there there's 100 more fresh water

46:49

it's a fresh start for Iraqi athletes so

46:52

far 2500 schools have been renovated are

46:55

Iraqis better off than they were one

46:57

year ago

46:58

yes they are definitely better off

47:00

because these Brave athletes look

47:02

forward to making Olympic gold I mean

47:04

there's so many positive developments

47:06

fox has made a decision

47:08

to present the Iraq War as a success and

47:12

as an ongoing success the Baghdad

47:15

equestrian Club is open for business and

47:17

yes you can play these ponies it's the

47:20

Iraq you don't hear about falling

47:22

unemployment Rising wages interest rates

47:25

down foreign investment up life for 95

47:28

of the Iraqis is already immeasurably

47:31

better than it was under the Decades of

47:33

saddam's rule there's no question about

47:34

that and that's what's the least

47:35

reported story over there you go to the

47:37

markets they're thriving big fat fish

47:39

coming out of the Tigris and the

47:41

Euphrates River young men in Baghdad

47:43

blowing off steam with their cars the

47:45

guys that have put their wheels through

47:47

the paces once a week something they say

47:50

they were not allowed to do Under the

47:52

old senior producer told the two or

47:54

three writers for her NewsHour she told

47:57

us now just keep in mind it's all good

48:00

this is such a fair and balanced issue

48:02

keep it positive we've got to emphasize

48:04

all the good that we're doing achieved

48:06

at that point made a reference to

48:08

rebuilding schools bringing democracy to

48:10

Iraq and then she said see big progress

48:13

Yoo-hoo for us things were actually at

48:16

that point going quite

48:18

badly many more American soldiers were

48:21

dying each day and God knows how many

48:23

Iraqis 277 U.S soldiers have now died in

48:26

Iraq which means that statistically

48:28

speaking U.S soldiers have less of a

48:30

chance of dying from all causes in Iraq

48:32

than citizens have of being murdered in

48:34

California which is roughly the same

48:36

geographical size

48:39

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48:45

[Music]

48:49

foreign

48:55

the people survey is interesting because

48:58

you're looking at questions of of basic

49:01

true false kind of factual nature did we

49:04

find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq

49:07

[Music]

49:11

these are very simple questions with

49:13

very simple answers and what the survey

49:15

found was that the more likely you were

49:18

to watch Fox News Channel the more

49:19

likely you were to have completely

49:21

incorrect assumptions about these things

49:26

foreign

49:29

all the research shows a very high

49:31

correlation in the case of Fox News with

49:34

people watching it with having a very

49:36

confused notion of the world on one hand

49:38

especially of foreign policy in the

49:40

Middle East and also being strongly

49:42

supportive of the government and Power

49:44

[Music]

49:53

and this is an extraordinarily

49:55

disturbing trend for the media I mean

49:57

for any self-respecting journalist if

50:00

you're told the more people consume your

50:01

media the less they'll know about the

50:04

subject and the more they'll support

50:05

government policy and that's that's

50:07

exactly the worst thing any journalist

50:09

would ever want to hear or should want

50:10

to hear

50:13

[Music]

50:17

in terms of fox overall I think we have

50:21

got to appreciate

50:23

and when we look at them is to

50:24

understand that this is an adjunct of

50:27

the Republican party what fox

50:29

specializes in is punditry basically

50:32

getting marching orders from the

50:33

Republican National Committee or some

50:34

political operative and then having

50:36

people pontificate about it have guests

50:38

come on and talk about it I have pseudo

50:40

experts come on and discuss it their

50:43

main allegiances I'm talking about the

50:45

people at the top is to the Republican

50:47

Party Murdock is is absolutely to his

50:51

core a partisan and he makes no secret

50:55

about that

50:56

[Music]

51:03

George W voice sat for an interview with

51:06

all in Austin with Fox news channels

51:08

Carl Cameron who joins us now with

51:10

highlights hello Carl hi Brad welder it

51:12

was well known in the summer of 2000

51:14

that Fox's lead political correspondent

51:16

covering the Bush campaign that his wife

51:19

was campaigning for bush bush does have

51:22

a Halo okay

51:24

very well my wife has been hanging out

51:27

with your sister yeah good my county has

51:29

been all over the state campaigning and

51:31

Pauline has been constantly with her

51:33

and there is a good person my uh oh she

51:37

she's been terrific I mean Paulie to

51:39

hear Pauline tell it when she first

51:40

started campaigning for you she was a

51:41

little bit nervous but now she's out

51:43

getting her stride she's got she doesn't

51:44

need notes she's going to crowds and

51:46

she's got the whole wrist she's a good

51:48

Soul she's having fun too she's a really

51:50

good soul

51:51

and in any other news organization in

51:54

fact in CNN that very summer there was a

51:56

producer whose husband was a lawyer for

51:58

the gore team and this was a producer

52:01

who would have naturally covered goar

52:02

who was immediately told you not to have

52:04

anything to do with campaign coverage

52:06

either covering Bush or covering War

52:07

because of the possible conflict of

52:09

interest or the perception of the

52:10

conflict of interest at Fox

52:12

they didn't care the fact that the

52:15

senior political reporter his wife is

52:17

actually campaigning for the Bush

52:18

campaign at a time when this guy is

52:20

covering them that didn't even register

52:22

it never would have occurred are you

52:25

guys ready all right that's great here

52:27

we go

52:29

she's the little things that get

52:30

disclosed I like that

52:32

thank you for joining us sir yes sir

52:34

thanks Carl it's good to see you just a

52:35

few days away from the convention that's

52:37

a whack of having some sort of basic

52:38

journalistic Integrity that is just

52:40

missing from that organization

52:43

thank you

52:49

first person who made the call to say

52:51

that George W bush had been elected

52:54

president of the United States was the

52:56

person who was in charge of fox news's

52:58

election analysis division the people

53:00

that crunched the exit polling numbers

53:02

that person was a gentleman named John

53:05

Ellis and he is George W Bush's first

53:08

cousin at around two in the morning on

53:11

Election night

53:12

the a new set of data had come in and it

53:17

was complex data with from precincts all

53:19

over Florida

53:20

the proper answer in analyzing that data

53:23

unquestionably was you couldn't tell it

53:25

was too close to call there was simply

53:27

no clear winner

53:29

instead John Ellis called it as a clear

53:33

win for George Bush

53:35

news then interrupted its ongoing

53:38

election coverage and announced that

53:41

George Bush had been elected president

53:43

of the United States Fox News Now

53:45

projects George W bush the winner in

53:47

Florida and thus it appears the winner

53:49

of the presidency of the United States

53:51

now What's significant about that is not

53:54

the intervention of the president's

53:55

cousin to declare his relative the new

53:58

president of the United States it was

54:00

the fact that within minutes ABC NBC CBS

54:04

also fell right in line calling Bush as

54:08

the winner George Bush is the

54:10

president-elect of the United States

54:12

Bush wins ABC News is now going to

54:15

project that Florida goes to Mr Bush

54:18

there's no way that they could have

54:19

crunched the data in that time to come

54:22

to that conclusion in fact quite the

54:24

opposite they should have come to the

54:25

conclusion which Associated Press came

54:27

to which was that you couldn't make a

54:30

call when Fox made the call that bush

54:33

had won and the other other networks

54:35

followed on that created the perception

54:38

that Bush was the winner in fact he

54:40

wasn't but that perception was what

54:43

really held for the next 37 days and I

54:46

would suggest to you that that call on

54:48

Election night had more to do with

54:50

making George Bush president than any

54:52

recount or ballot design issue

54:56

to our audience that information

54:59

our lengthy and critical

55:00

self-examination

55:02

shows that we let our viewers down

55:05

I apologize for making those bad

55:06

projections that night it will not

55:08

happen again

55:12

in the old Soviet Union you used to hear

55:15

about the party line shifting 180

55:17

degrees watching Fox News at the end of

55:20

Clinton where it was all Attack Mode

55:23

where they were just vicious Watchdogs

55:26

and then bush takes power and they're

55:28

like little lap dogs it was like night

55:31

and day and it's a party line shift the

55:34

president has the direction and the

55:35

vision to take us into the future boldly

55:38

and with with courage and with optimism

55:40

he is an extraordinarily straightforward

55:43

leader he says what he's going to do

55:44

what he does it the president stands for

55:46

steady leadership during a time of

55:48

enormous change in challenge but the

55:50

president is on Air Force One and the

55:51

plane is now touched down in New Mexico

55:53

as strong a pro-national security

55:55

conservative president as I have ever

55:56

seen this is the guy who says what he

55:58

means it means what he says but the

56:00

president is a gentleman you know he set

56:02

a different tone for his campaign

56:03

[Applause]

56:07

[Music]

56:10

foreign

56:13

[Applause]

56:13

[Music]

56:18

lived up to its word

56:22

this was a super night for our candidate

56:25

John Kerry and a super night for the

56:28

Democratic party he's a super nominee

56:34

foreign

56:38

that in 2004

56:40

one United Democratic Party

56:43

we can and we will win this election

56:51

what would you say would be uh Senator

56:53

Kerry's one or two major weak points

56:55

that could be exploited the presidential

56:56

hopeful has missed every one of the 22

56:58

roll call votes in the Senate this year

57:00

but hasn't missed the paycheck he talks

57:02

about trying to protect the taxpayers

57:03

every single day and here he is fleecing

57:05

the taxpayers out of 150 000 a year so

57:08

do you think he should step down Dominic

57:10

when he's running for president the

57:12

controversy over John Kerry and his

57:13

Vietnam War medals has just gotten worse

57:16

he says he never suggested he threw them

57:18

away but the videotape does not lie

57:21

foreign

57:23

s or Metals which did John Kerry throw

57:26

away after he returned from Vietnam his

57:29

perceived disrespect for the military

57:31

could be more damaging to the candidate

57:33

than questions about his actions in

57:35

uniform

57:37

many are angry over Kerry's post-war

57:40

protests but the bigger issue here is

57:42

Kerry's involvement in a group that's

57:44

inherently violent presumptive

57:46

Democratic nominee John Kerry was

57:48

scaring old people as usual with the

57:50

predictable Democratic line he said

57:52

President Bush will cut off their

57:54

entitlement checks it isn't true but the

57:56

LIE has worked well for Democrats in the

57:58

past assuming that the unthinkable

58:00

happens and that that Senator Kerry

58:02

becomes president you're watching Fox

58:04

News Real journalism fair and balanced

58:07

they will give you

58:08

the the almost the full Bush stump

58:11

speech no matter where it is no matter

58:12

how many times they've shown it good cut

58:15

live to these campaign rallies as if

58:17

there was going to be real news in them

58:19

as if Bush was going to say anything

58:21

earth-shattering and your uh ability to

58:24

make good decisions

58:25

like

58:27

marrying your wife Carolyn Fox portrays

58:29

his every action as a heroic move as a

58:33

you know something dramatic and

58:35

significant I imagine it's pretty hard

58:37

for the fox producers some days George

58:39

Bush doesn't do anything interesting and

58:42

yet they've got to find something that

58:44

makes him heroic that day most people

58:46

just started waking up and saying Oh you

58:49

mean we don't have the fairness Doctrine

58:51

anymore I can't tell you how many times

58:53

when I was a political candidate running

58:54

for office I would have somebody come up

58:56

to me on the street and say now I saw

58:59

your opponent on TV the other day aren't

59:01

they supposed to give you equal time and

59:03

I didn't even know for years that we

59:05

lost that in the Reagan Era that for

59:07

years we haven't had the ability to

59:09

expect both sides to be adequately

59:11

covered clearly on the Republican side

59:14

what we do know is that for years they

59:16

have coordinated what they call their

59:19

message of the day so you'll hear on the

59:21

floor of the house you'll hear on Rush

59:23

limbo you'll hear on a fox and Rupert

59:25

Murdoch's Network the the issue of the

59:28

day which they will pound away at which

59:30

then creates the echo chamber which

59:32

resonates throughout America

59:41

here's what he said

59:43

I actually did vote for the 87 billion

59:48

before I voted against it Senator Kerry

59:50

recently said quote I actually did vote

59:53

for the 87 billion dollars before I

59:55

voted against him

59:58

end quote

60:00

Kerry starting to feel the heat for his

60:02

flip-flop voting record is in West

60:04

Virginia is President Bush doing a good

60:07

job of defining carriers of

60:08

flip-floppers and you're saying he

60:10

flip-flopped on the issue of this

60:11

because he does seem to agonize and

60:13

flip-flop over and over and over again

60:15

he's flip-flopped on all these issues

60:16

beneath Kerry's flip-flopping is an

60:19

opportunistic flip-flopper you're

60:20

talking flip-flops brand of Summer

60:22

Footwear John Kerry flip-flops they say

60:25

that he flip-flops a lot so he's

60:26

flip-flopped now on every major issue

60:28

those would be the flip-flops because

60:29

he's flip-flopped on everything else is

60:31

Senator Kerry guilty of flip-flopping on

60:34

these flip-flops like crazy first of all

60:35

flip-flops you've seen him flip-flop on

60:37

a whole variety of issues opportunistic

60:39

flip-flopper who doesn't have any

60:41

principles is that a little harsh I

60:43

think

60:44

um it shows one thing the weakness of

60:47

John Kerry you're watching Fox News Real

60:49

journalism fair and balanced

60:51

and just 263 days until you get to cast

60:54

your vote and decide that George W bush

60:57

deserves a second term

61:00

John Kerry may wish he'd taken off his

61:03

microphone before trashing the GOP his

61:06

course description of his opponents has

61:08

cast a luried glow over the campaign

61:11

presidential hopeful John Kerry got

61:14

caught on tape in some candid remarks

61:16

that he didn't want everybody to hear

61:18

but we did John Kerry has been lashing

61:20

out at President Bush and by extension

61:22

Republicans for a long time nothing new

61:23

there you see a picture of George Bush

61:25

you expect to see hear organ music that

61:27

would come out of a church swelling the

61:29

the backlit head you know the Madonna

61:31

look and then a picture of John Kerry

61:33

flashes and you hear the the devil's

61:35

voice this is the devil he is evil is it

61:37

true the reports that we're seeing to

61:39

John Kerry on the slopes curse out of

61:40

secret service agent is that true I

61:42

think Kerry needed this vacation he was

61:43

showing some fatigue I mean the crooks

61:45

only 217 days and counting until George

61:48

W bush is reelected they're saying John

61:51

Kerry looks French John Kerry looks

61:54

French Carrie the man who would be

61:55

America's first French president when

61:57

you're at War there are two models you

61:58

have the Churchill Reagan Thatcher Tony

62:01

Blair George Bush model or you have the

62:03

McGovern Jimmy Carter French John Kerry

62:08

model are the Republicans going to

62:10

effectively be able to make Kerry French

62:13

good afternoon everybody or as John

62:15

Kerry would say bonjour French authencos

62:17

and that doesn't go into the code of the

62:20

American presidency I mean you know the

62:22

French the thinkers I mean they think

62:25

they think they think they never do

62:26

anything with their thinking I believe

62:28

that Mr Kerry has to get away of this

62:31

image if you want to win right now I

62:33

think is not in the American archetype

62:35

why is on vacation if the archetype is

62:38

to take action and you are taking

62:40

vacation I mean you definitely not you

62:42

don't feed the code you are off code

62:45

thank you very much you are hereby

62:47

invited back every week there's so many

62:49

ways you can play the economic story at

62:52

Fox News it's only the upbeat they

62:55

select statistics that prove the economy

62:58

is moving up and thank God for president

63:00

Bush for doing it economy of course

63:02

shaping up to be one of the hot button

63:04

issues in this presidential campaign

63:06

polls show the economy is shaping up to

63:08

be a major issue of the presidential

63:10

campaign they're all amazed at the

63:12

strength of the economy and how it's

63:14

picking up day by day I think the

63:17

economy is growing and uh I think it's

63:20

going to get stronger economy is very

63:22

very strong right now it continues to

63:24

get stronger the latest reading on the

63:25

nation's gross domestic product

63:27

confirming it Rose at a healthy 4.1 for

63:30

sales of existing homes up two percent

63:31

last month the economy is behaving like

63:33

it's on steroids at the moment the fact

63:35

is that the economy is improving will

63:37

Roar and 04 every sign or in all four

63:40

that sounds like a push 204 days until

63:42

George W bush is reelected

63:45

we're creating jobs

63:47

good high paying jobs for the American

63:49

citizens

63:51

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63:53

the president goes to Charlotte to talk

63:55

about job training buoyed by the 300 000

63:58

job figure last week he can boast his

64:01

policies are working

64:04

new jobs grew last month at the fastest

64:06

rate in four years with the the news

64:09

this morning 308

64:10

000 new jobs were created last month

64:12

they're drinking the Maalox right out of

64:15

the gallon bucket at the Kerry campaign

64:17

what this carry plan will do is punish

64:19

successful companies and that's bad if

64:21

you want to destroy jobs in this country

64:22

you raise taxes John Kerry's plan to

64:25

bring millions of jobs back to America

64:27

while someone here says watch out

64:28

Kerry's plan will end up killing more

64:30

jobs instead I said previously that the

64:33

market was neutral on John Kerry I think

64:36

that was utterly wrong I think the

64:37

market is down on John Kerry when the

64:39

market goes down one of the things you

64:41

often hear is the market is worried

64:43

about a carry Victory then out comes a

64:46

poll showing Kerry with a four or five

64:48

point lead down goes the market big time

64:50

and how they know that the market went

64:52

down because everybody had carry on

64:54

their mind as opposed to everyone was

64:57

worried about interest rates or everyone

64:59

looked at the earnings figures and

65:01

thought they weren't as good as

65:02

projected but they they they love to

65:05

pretend that their car neck the

65:07

Magnificent they can read the mind of

65:08

the market sure we got Terror threats

65:10

gas prices Sky High but Forbes as the

65:12

economy is still strong and getting

65:14

stronger every day there you have it 196

65:17

days till we re-elect George W wait wait

65:20

wait the election's over all right

65:21

thanks for letting me know it's almost

65:23

there I think Fox News of all lots of

65:26

procedures had the best increase in

65:28

profits what makes Murdoch particularly

65:30

dangerous is that he's foremost a

65:33

politician and he will use his immense

65:36

Media power to shape the content

65:38

especially the news that furthers his

65:41

interests and those of his allies

65:44

including uh the Conservative Republican

65:47

Community after all Fox News is nothing

65:49

more than a 24 7 political ad for the

65:52

GOP

65:54

foreign

66:00

Phil Donahue Primetime show

66:02

from the beginning they were saying to

66:05

us we have to be balanced giving them

66:07

instructions not to be too

66:09

confrontational don't be too partisan

66:11

don't be too angry now by the end of our

66:14

tenure balance wasn't enough

66:17

and this is the fox effect they mandated

66:19

that anytime we had if we had two

66:22

left-wing guests we had to have three

66:25

right-wing guests if we had one anti-war

66:28

guest we had to have two pro-war guests

66:31

and that's how we ended the show so

66:33

we're like trying to out fox fox you

66:35

cannot out fox fox but MSNBC and the

66:38

others have tried CNBC has tried to out

66:41

fox fox since the corporate structures

66:43

and corporate ownership of the other

66:45

channels did not allow anyone to counter

66:48

program against Fox

66:49

you know in television the inclination

66:51

is imitation you know I I think the

66:53

standard right now is is fox and I want

66:55

to be as interesting and as edgy as you

66:58

guys are it's influencing its

67:00

competitors

67:01

uh that's why you know uh MSNBC hired

67:07

Joe Scarborough that's why CNN in in

67:09

recent weeks has taken to reporting

67:12

pretty much anything the bush White

67:14

House tells it to report there is a

67:16

sense now that there is money in the

67:18

flag and fox knows that and its

67:21

competitors know the fox is on to

67:23

something

67:24

today news business is geared toward

67:26

entertainment it's geared toward in some

67:28

cases propaganda it's geared toward

67:30

ultimately the bottom line of a big

67:33

corporation that owns the station that

67:36

owns the news Operation it's called the

67:38

news business for a reason it is news

67:40

but it's a business

67:42

they don't like to spend money doing

67:44

serious stories they like to do cheap

67:47

easy stories that will get a gut

67:51

reaction the thing I think that

67:52

distresses me more than anything else is

67:54

that a lot of the news content is not

67:57

coming straight out of the newsrooms

67:59

particularly in television

68:01

but out of the promotion Department it's

68:04

expensive

68:05

expense to spend time exploring the

68:07

issues it's cheap and everything now is

68:10

a question of money if you go to the

68:13

National Association of black

68:14

journalists or you go to the National

68:15

Association of Hispanic journalists you

68:16

talk to Asian American journalists who

68:18

are on air you talk to Native American

68:19

journalists you're seeing a diminution

68:22

in the number of journalists that are

68:25

locally based because in order to save

68:27

money and in order to get economies of

68:30

scale and scope a lot of the

68:32

broadcasters are shrinking their

68:34

employee employee pool and they're

68:36

shrinking them in the news section

68:38

sectors of their stations so a lot of

68:41

the young vibrant people who are getting

68:43

experience as on-air talent in small

68:46

towns are seeing those opportunities

68:49

increasingly diminished when you let a

68:51

small number of companies have this much

68:53

concentrated power they will always

68:55

abuse it it's simply unacceptable in a

68:58

free society and if you don't change the

69:00

system we can be having this

69:01

conversation for the next 50 years we'll

69:03

be talking about Rupert Murdoch III

69:05

foreign

69:07

[Music]

69:12

just as Healthcare and the economy

69:15

and the environment are political issues

69:18

that people are familiar with corporate

69:21

control over the media is also a major

69:24

political issue when you have one

69:26

network that is so powerful and so

69:29

intent upon warping the dialogue it

69:32

limits that discourse it actually

69:34

influences it to be a narrower discourse

69:36

and that's what I think citizens ought

69:38

to be up in arms about we can't accept

69:40

this anymore if we do accept it we are

69:43

handing on to our children and our

69:45

grandchildren a lesser democracy than we

69:48

inherited and that's the one thing we

69:50

don't have a right to do it's ironic

69:52

that it's been what

69:54

30 years since Patty chieski wrote

69:57

Network

69:58

but I really believe

70:00

that those prophetic words that were

70:02

spoken by Peter Finch when he finally

70:06

got out of the chair and said it's time

70:10

go to the window shake your fist and say

70:14

I'm mad as hell I'm not gonna take it

70:17

anymore

70:19

I think those are resonant words today I

70:22

think people are genuinely upset get off

70:25

your rear end and become an activist and

70:27

if you see things that are biased

70:28

complain to the outlet and say you won't

70:31

be watching it anymore content has to

70:34

change power has to shift and I think

70:37

the only way we can shift power is the

70:39

only way we've ever been able to shift

70:41

Power by directly confronting those who

70:43

hold it and taking it back policies have

70:46

been made Behind Closed Doors by very

70:48

powerful special just thought any public

70:49

involvement or participation and what

70:52

we've learned in the last few years is

70:53

from the public that's aware of this and

70:54

they start organizing we can change

70:56

these policies and we can make a system

70:58

that actually responds to the needs of

70:59

the people of this country America's

71:01

digital Destiny is hanging in the

71:03

balance now

71:05

with the right activism public outcry

71:09

we can shape a meaty environment so that

71:12

in every Community there are channels

71:15

that actually serve the public interest

71:17

if you are a citizen at home right now

71:19

when you turn on talk radio all you hear

71:22

is one right-wing nut or another right

71:24

wing nut why don't you go to the radio

71:26

station and say I'm sick and tired of

71:28

this there are progressive voices out

71:29

there we want a balance if a Fox TV

71:32

station in your town is broadcasting

71:36

reports that you know to be inaccurate

71:38

that you know to be warping the news you

71:42

as citizens have power groups like code

71:45

pink and others have actually

71:46

demonstrated outside television stations

71:49

and have made noise about it you need to

71:51

basically play the Paul Revere role to

71:54

you know kind of ride out into the night

71:55

alerting people that there's something

71:58

bad going on here and and something

72:00

needs to be done about it here's what

72:02

I'd love to have happen

72:04

family from Nebraska Goes to Washington

72:06

for the family vacation we're going to

72:08

visit the air and space museum we're

72:10

going to visit the mall we're going to

72:12

visit the Vietnam memorial and we're

72:14

going to visit the FCC to see a

72:16

commissioner or two to tell them about

72:17

what we care about when that happens

72:21

you might start to see a little more

72:23

attention but you know it ain't gonna

72:25

happen if you don't try it we can

72:27

actually win here the whole strength of

72:28

the system has been based on people

72:29

being apathetic and not thinking they

72:31

could do anything about it as soon as we

72:33

rise up it collapses like a house of

72:35

cards that's the extraordinary

72:36

development of the last two years it is

72:38

not an issue of the right or the left it

72:40

is a populist issue about people finally

72:43

saying it's their democracy and they

72:46

aren't going to let five companies

72:48

control the Airways for corporate

72:50

convenience at the expense of public

72:53

necessity

72:57

foreign

72:59

[Music]

73:21

I come from a community in the in the

73:23

state of Maine that's mostly uh fishing

73:25

towns small coastal communities and for

73:28

many years we were served by one radio

73:30

station that everybody listened to I

73:31

mean it was local radio every time I

73:33

debated an opponent when I was running

73:35

for office everybody would tune it in in

73:37

their cars or their home radio and they

73:38

would hear what we were feeling

73:40

differently about and when Clear Channel

73:41

bought it that was the end you couldn't

73:43

even count on somebody looking out the

73:45

window and telling you if it was a good

73:46

day or a bad day or if the fog was

73:48

coming in but what was really

73:49

interesting to me was that people got so

73:51

angry there was a local group that

73:53

organized and attempted to get a low

73:55

power FM radio license they had a

73:58

hardpought battle a Clear Channel

74:00

opposed them and they actually won and

74:01

now there was a little radio station

74:03

operated out of a garage in that town

74:05

all volunteers anybody can play the

74:07

music that they want but at five o'clock

74:08

every day they tune into the dialogue of

74:11

what's going on in that community

74:13

coming

74:14

coming in my ear s

74:18

[Music]

74:36

oh we've been doing over the last decade

74:38

is to create this alternative

74:39

infrastructure so that we now have an

74:41

online audience of 10 000 unique

74:44

visitors per day to our home page plus

74:46

the over the air audience of our new low

74:50

power FM radio station and very soon

74:53

we're going to have Public Access TV in

74:55

this community so we're we've got three

74:57

legs of a of a stool here of an

75:00

alternative media infrastructure that

75:02

gives us a means of communicating among

75:04

ourselves and not just relying on the

75:06

occasional letter to the editor in the

75:08

corporate newspaper or almost no

75:11

coverage and the broadcast media because

75:13

they're all owned by Clear Channel and

75:15

and Sinclair or Fox

75:18

[Music]

75:31

when the youth media Council started one

75:35

of our first projects was to recruit

75:38

unorganized use of color teenagers and

75:41

have them study the fox affiliate

75:43

station in the Bay Area when we did the

75:46

study we were able to do an editorial

75:48

meeting it was the first time in

75:51

probably 10 or 15 years that a

75:53

constituency group locally had actually

75:55

ever came and demanded anything from

75:57

them they just get to do whatever they

75:59

want nobody cares nobody understands

76:01

that they can demand anything so it was

76:04

a pretty momentous moment for us you

76:07

know to to both demand something and get

76:09

it from a fox affiliate but also to be

76:11

one of the first you know folks to come

76:13

forward and that's that's something that

76:15

I think is a trend that we're trying to

76:17

start now marginalized people don't have

76:20

any concept that they can go to an

76:24

editor

76:25

in groups and demand something

76:31

[Music]

76:36

[Applause]

76:36

[Music]

76:39

thank you

76:46

[Music]

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