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The Coming Dangers to Facebook, Virtual Reality, and Ads ($META Stock)

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should you invest in Facebook that's

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questions at kevin.com thanks so much

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now we're going to talk about meta

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advertising Snapchat Pinterest trade

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desk and good advertising as well as

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Google potentially be a massive sector

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that is missing from your portfolio

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let's do some fundamental analysis and

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understand a little bit of what's going

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on in the advertising sector look the

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first thing that we've got to start with

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is we we've got to talk about Facebook

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because obviously their earnings were

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such that folks got very optimistic with

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a higher Revenue beat than expected Mark

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Zuckerberg talks about making the

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company more efficient there was a lot

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of talk in the earnings call about being

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tired of having managers managing

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managers Facebook laid off about 11 000

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people and the idea for Facebook is

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let's try to make the company a little

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bit flatter less sort of hierarchical

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which is very expensive because every

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payroll is expensive if you are an

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employee whatever your salary is

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remember that the company probably has

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to pay about 50 more just to keep you

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around so if you make 100K probably cost

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the company 150 000 HR payroll taxes

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workers comp supplies mistakes days off

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paid days off vacation sick time you

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name it okay there are a lot of costs

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that come along with that that but

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that's okay but it makes sense if you

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can cut out some middle level management

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and keep the company more efficient

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there's a great option opportunity to

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reduce your cash burm especially since

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meta is well continues to expect to

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spend a lot of money on uh reality Labs

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which is really their money losing

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division for the metaverse and the

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reason Facebook is really doubling down

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on the idea of the metaverse is because

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they believe the metaverse my opinion is

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the next Frontier for social media

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advertising and they want to make sure

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they get the grip on the metaverse so

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that way when people start actually

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spending more time in the metaverse

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maybe the time they spend now on YouTube

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they spend in the metaverse Facebook

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could be the one that has a dominant

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advertising platform so this year at

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least they're calling 2023 the year of

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efficiency simplifying their

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organizational structure and really

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trying to get back to a return to growth

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they're increasing their share BuyBacks

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they're lowering their expenses and

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really well digital advertising demand

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and pricing is still weak they're

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starting to see some green shoots along

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with an improvement in online e-commerce

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now that was actually surprising to me

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so you're seeing e-commerce see a little

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bit of a pop in advertising and you're

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saving seeing travel and health spending

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substantially up the sectors that are

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down in advertising or financial

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services and Technology with average

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price paid per ad down about 22 however

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they did allude to more growth in the

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potential advertising sector for short

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form content such as Facebook and

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Instagram reels which YouTube just

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yesterday turned on monetization for

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short form reels uh but well sure

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YouTube shorts basically a 60 second or

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less content they just turned on

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monetization for that so we'll see uh

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what that ended up ends up doing to the

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advertising sector but there's a lot of

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focus on Facebook Snapchat uh trade desk

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and Google for advertising Google does

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end up reporting today uh Pinterest is

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another one that's moving on this they

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just announced they're expecting to cut

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150 jobs you've had similar cuts at

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Google Google just had five Executives

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from the doubleclick ad business which

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some say holds about 90 market share and

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sort of the brokering sector for

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brokering website ads five Executives

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just apparently lost their jobs there

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along with potentially hundreds of other

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individuals working there uh Google has

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about a 25 market share of All Digital

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advertising and then in the other 75

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you've got companies advertising like

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obviously Facebook uh then you've got uh

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YouTube's obviously part of Google but

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then you've got a trade desk which is

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your connected TV Advertiser and so on

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uh now what's fascinating about the

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advertising sector is you've kind of got

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these hidden misses you've got Facebook

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seemingly potentially excited at least

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their stocks excited seeing some green

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shoots in advertising again but you're

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still getting a hit from reality labs

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and cash expenses to where they're

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trying to refine their business to make

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it more effective unfortunately you had

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Snapchat that reported and they missed

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bigly and they that was potentially

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because you've got 90 percent of snaps

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user base being under 25 years old

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leading to potentially a less uh dare I

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say advertising Revenue than some of the

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other platforms after all snap generates

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more Impressions per dollar than Google

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or meta but that's potentially because

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the the users are just a lower value

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Target so advertisers also tend to have

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limited data using Snapchat on how their

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ad is doing and this is leading a lot of

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folks to focus on different platforms

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and kind of brings me to uh wanting to

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look at two things one I want to look at

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the fundamentals for Facebook and number

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two we I want to understand trade desk

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and their uid2 platform a little bit

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more first though let's look at meta's

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fundamentals for a moment so here's meta

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fundamentally and we'll go ahead and

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look at some of these numbers together

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so Facebook's Revenue declined for the

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third quarter in a row year over year so

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you're really in a revenue recession at

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Facebook right their revenue is down to

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32.1 billion dollars versus 33.6 at the

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same time last year that's about a four

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and a half percent decline in Revenue at

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the same time as their revenue is

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declining their costs are going up

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substantially while their revenue

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declined four percent their costs of

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goods sold which actually doesn't

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include research and development

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increased 31 so even though the stock is

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rallying you do have some problems

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Revenue declining four percent and costs

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of goods sold up 31 r d also exploded

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9.7 billion dollars of r d expense

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compared to about seven billion dollars

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of r d expense last year puts you in

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about a 39 percentage Point increase in

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research and development their marketing

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and sales and GNA stayed roughly flat to

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slightly negative uh and really what you

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had was a a cost structure that just

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became a bit more well costly so their

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net income fell their net income sitting

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at about 4.6 billion dollars down from

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10 billion dollars last year so you've

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got about half as much income coming

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into Facebook as you did last year and

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if we go to a cash flow statement for

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the company we're not terribly worried

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about the company's assets and their

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balance sheet and companies well

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capitalized but if we look at the cash

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flow statement we can see do they

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actually have cash flow and if you take

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their net income and you look at their

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operating cash they do they've got

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operating cash from about 14.5 billion

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dollars in a net cash provided by

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operating activities hold on let me just

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make sure quickly that we've got this

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aligned properly here we've got net

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income of 4.6 we've got depreciation

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share based comp uh accounts receivable

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accounts payable we've got other

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liabilities we've got net cash okay yeah

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exactly okay then here we have purchases

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of property and Equipment nine billion

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dollars this gives you a free cash flow

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estimate free cash flow would be the

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difference between cash flow from

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operating and cash flow or cash expense

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for Investments so if we look at 14.5

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minus nine you're sitting at about 5.5

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billion dollars of free cash flow it's

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not bad so they're still making

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substantial amounts of money and part of

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this is because they're adding back in

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about 2.3 billion dollars in

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depreciation uh they're adding back in

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three billion dollars of share-based

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compensation so you really have a

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company that's not short for cash

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they've got plenty of cash 5.5 billion

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dollars of cash in just the three months

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ending uh 2022 that's not bad it's

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actually very impressive if you look at

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the free cash flow for 2022 this is a

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company that's killing it with cash cash

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for the entire year of 2022 you're

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sitting at free cash flow of about 15

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billion dollars so plenty of cash the

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question that you have to ask yourself

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is if you want to make or if you want to

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make a meta investment if you're asking

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yourself should I invest in meta is

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you've got to ask yourself do you

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believe in the potential future of

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reality Labs because that's obviously

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where a lot of money is going right now

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uh twice as much of their free cash flow

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is basically going into research and

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development and that's expected to

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continue so you have to believe that

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ultimately reality labs and virtual

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reality is as they say the next

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evolution in Social technology and if

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you don't believe in that probably don't

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want to invest in Facebook now keep in

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mind there are also other players in the

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space take a look at Apple's upcoming

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mixed reality of virtual headset this is

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a Bloomberg piece breaking down exactly

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everything you want to know about it

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I'll give you a quick picture of roughly

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a rendering of what it might look like

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you could see that on screen here look

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pretty cool some people say it's a

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little bit uncomfortable though based on

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some of the people in the beta for it

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well probably more like an alpha for it

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but anyway Apple's long anticipated

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mixed reality headset isn't a an attempt

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to recreate a 3D version of the iPhone

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operating system so think about

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basically uh apps and icons on uh on

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sort of a 3D augmented reality space in

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front of you and somehow being able to

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control those buttons with gestures so

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there won't actually be a hand control

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device there'll actually be cameras that

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look down at your hands to try to

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understand what you're gesturing so you

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can kind of move around or maybe touch a

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keyboard or something that'll be quite

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interesting now the expectation is this

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will cost about a thousand bucks and uh

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it's a likely to be named reality Pro

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which I feel like is a little bit of a

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jab there at meta versus expenses on

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reality labs

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uh and uh then in the future they expect

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to potentially come out with a thousand

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dollar product uh like a lower cost

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product so starting with the premium

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tier and coming down hand and eye

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tracking capabilities uh ability to

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connect to external or become an

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external display for connected Mac uh

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basically you'd zoom in pinch with your

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fingers and your thumb they'll also be a

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little wheel which I think is kind of

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cool at least it's the rumor that you'll

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be able to kind of go from virtual

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reality to augmented reality so that way

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you can see the world in front of you

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with sort of a layers of apps and stuff

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I think it'd be neat if I were ever on a

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run to be able to wear something like

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this if they got light enough and the

11:38

battery packs got light enough to be

11:39

able to kind of see the world but then

11:42

have you know news up or something I I

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don't know it's maybe that's a bad thing

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but that's kind of what I envisioned for

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this but I think uh Apple is doing this

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with a separate battery pack that you

11:53

would carry separately uh and it's not

11:56

actually on the head device unlike the

11:58

Facebook version which is on the head

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device a lot of people talking about

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this is potentially being useful for

12:03

health tracking video games uh I think

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maybe like one-on-one face times will be

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useful with couples for this or maybe if

12:12

you're in the future in a self-driving

12:13

car or you're on a treadmill uh this

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could be kind of useful M2 will be made

12:18

with Taiwan semiconductors enhanced five

12:20

nanometer technology and it's a neural

12:22

processing units can any 20 billion

12:24

transistors this will be a 25 increase

12:27

from the M1 some testers have complained

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that it could be a bit cumbersome

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headset battery pack lasts for about two

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hours

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and people will be able to try it out in

12:38

the uh in the actual Apple Store now the

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reason I bring that up with meta here is

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obviously because there's competition in

12:44

that reality loud space and Apple's the

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big boy coming in we could actually look

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at segment information here at Facebook

12:50

and see that uh reality Labs let's see

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here reality labs labs absorbs

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um this is quite interesting how this is

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aligned there we go these align like

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this and then we have family of apps

13:03

here reality Labs reality Labs showing

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I don't know why this is so uh

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misaligned here it's so difficult to

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understand reality labs this is segment

13:12

info of Revenue there we go okay reality

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Labs created 727 million dollars of

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Revenue and uh reality Labs cost about

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4.2 billion dollars almost a billion

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dollars more than uh what the company uh

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or or what the loss was last year so you

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get about 4.2 billion dollars going into

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reality labs and losses and that is just

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in the last three months of 2022 which

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means if you look at that on an

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annualized basis they're spending about

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17 billion dollars a year uh in losses

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on the metaverse

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so again even though they're buying back

13:52

shares the numbers aren't as bad as

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expected in the long term you got to ask

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yourself how much do you believe in the

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potential for a company that's shrinking

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Revenue to be able to turn around and

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start creating revenues again uh and

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that's ultimately a question you have to

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ask yourself as an investor now one of

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the things you can do to help you along

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with that is we could look at Wall

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Street consensus estimates and if we

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jump over to uh Facebook for uh Wall

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Street consensus estimates yeah let's

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see here we can find out that the

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projected earnings per share for

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Facebook in 2023 is

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11.4 dollars and that could grow by

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about 20 percent for 2024 and 2025 but

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things get really blurry after 2024 and

14:36

2025 where Wall Street actually thinks

14:39

that earnings are going to go negative

14:41

Again by 2026 and 2027. so in other

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words unless you start producing revenue

14:45

from reality Labs by 2026 your earnings

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are probably going to start declining

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again which would make your cost per

14:52

growth very very expensive at Facebook

14:54

but consider that companies multiples

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right now right now Facebook stock in

14:59

the pre-market is trading for about a

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buck 85. divide that by about 11.4 and

15:05

you're trading for about a 16 times

15:06

multiple if you think that the company's

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going to grow at 16 in the foreseeable

15:12

future you're really only paying about

15:14

one times for the growth PEG ratio right

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dividing 16 times earnings by 16 growth

15:20

you're about a 1x however if Facebook

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doesn't end up pulling it off with

15:24

reality labs and their growth ends up

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only sitting around a measly let's say

15:28

two or three percent on average over the

15:30

next few years or let's just go with an

15:32

even five to make math easy well then

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you're probably paying closer to 3x on a

15:37

peg-based ratio and that actually makes

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Facebook look very expensive so an

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investment into Facebook right now if

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you're making a longer term investment

15:44

is solely based on the growth you expect

15:46

from reality Labs personally you can

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make a similar sort of analysis I think

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you can make a similar sort of analysis

15:54

on Intel Now intel is a company that's

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going through very much a similar

15:58

transition as Facebook except rather

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than betting on the metaverse Intel is

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betting on three and four nanometer

16:06

chips which are Advanced chips then to

16:10

be developed in new Fabs that they're

16:12

building in Ohio and expecting to come

16:14

online by 2025 right now they use a lot

16:17

of uh TM they actually use a lot of

16:19

Taiwan semiconductors for for their

16:21

building and so if you're heavy into

16:22

Taiwan semiconductors and you're looking

16:24

for potentially potentially a value play

16:27

on a transformation maybe Intel is that

16:30

opportunity where you're actually

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hedging against tsmc because now you

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have an American manufacturer the

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largest American manufacturer and you're

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betting on sort of a turnaround

16:37

personally I would rather make a bet on

16:40

the Intel turnaround thanks to the chips

16:42

Act and the Tailwinds that that has

16:44

versus a bet on the metaverse because I

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don't actually think we're close to the

16:49

metaverse yet I think the metaverse is

16:51

something that would be ready player

16:53

1esque maybe in the 2030s plus but I'm

16:56

not convinced that Facebook will be the

16:58

one to actually get us there and so I'd

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rather wait to see what actually happens

17:01

before I make the BET and so when it

17:03

comes to advertising I actually am much

17:06

more interested in a company like trade

17:07

desk now don't get me wrong trade desk

17:09

has not reported earnings yet and this

17:12

is going to be big foot and mouth if

17:14

face or if trade desk ends up missing uh

17:17

but I will tell you this oh my God trade

17:19

desk is up eight percent in the

17:20

pre-market right now I have no idea why

17:23

possibly just off the back of Facebook I

17:26

just realized that trade desk is up at

17:28

56 dollars tradisk is one of my my it's

17:30

actually my largest advertising holding

17:32

in my portfolio now I want to explain a

17:35

little bit about uid2 because there's a

17:37

lot of confusion about uid2 so uid2 is

17:42

something you have to know when it comes

17:43

to advertising because it's basically a

17:46

new form of a cookie it's an opt-in

17:49

cookie where basically you opt in to be

17:50

tracked for your phone number your email

17:53

to be tracked and initially you might

17:54

think to yourself why would you want to

17:57

opt into that well you're right most

17:59

people won't in fact only about 10

18:01

percent of people are expected to opt in

18:03

to uid2 style tracking or really any

18:06

kind of tracking however all uid2 really

18:09

needs is about 10 percent of people to

18:13

opt in and then they can model the 10

18:16

percent of people who opt in model their

18:19

behavior and their characteristics

18:21

against the characteristics of other

18:24

people who behave in a similar way and

18:27

this is why

18:29

uid2 potentially raises your uh CPM

18:34

metrics on Advertising by as much as 116

18:38

percent compared to companies using

18:40

third-party cookies that's really good

18:43

on top of that some companies estimate

18:46

that their reach has increased as much

18:49

as 40 percent and potentially led to a

18:53

one thousand percent increase in their

18:55

actual return on spend now this is

18:58

incredible and some of this information

18:59

is uh you know brought To Us by Pub lift

19:02

which in the advertising space could be

19:04

a little bit uh uh a little bit on on

19:07

the buy side uh but uid 2 is worth

19:11

noting it is an open source Tech and

19:14

it's basically your new version of

19:16

cookies and trade desk is one of the

19:18

companies that's in Connected TV

19:20

advertising where uh through uid2 and

19:24

with connected TV advertising trade desk

19:26

expects to be able to blow up their

19:28

advertising Revenue now no guarantees

19:30

but it's basically the New Frontier for

19:32

advertising where people are saying look

19:34

why do we want to be on Facebook when

19:36

you have problems with being able to

19:38

track advertising success when you could

19:40

move over to the new technology which is

19:42

uid2 again an open source framework and

19:46

the goal of it is actually to protect

19:48

user privacy and now that's interesting

19:50

because this is kind of the chart of how

19:52

it works I'm not going to go super

19:54

detailed into this but basically the

19:56

user visits a website the publisher

19:59

explains hey you know do you want to opt

20:01

in basically and it gives you the option

20:04

10 of users let's say opt-in now that

20:08

creates a token for that user and only

20:12

the non-public information is

20:16

transferred to basically the auction

20:17

websites for advertising and you get

20:20

this exchange of of information for

20:23

being able to basically attract people

20:24

on the internet and again if you can

20:26

model around the 10 of people who've

20:28

opted in then you can continue to sell

20:30

more ads more effectively and I think

20:32

the best thing to do is just look at the

20:34

success that some companies are having

20:35

and some companies are having great

20:37

success so for example if you look at

20:40

Cocoa Village they're the ones talking

20:42

about a massive uh increase in uh return

20:46

on ad spend and a substantial boost in

20:49

reach on top of that uh you're seeing uh

20:52

a trade desk very optimistically argue

20:56

that this recession is an opportunity

20:58

for them to actually gain more market

21:00

share and get people realizing look in a

21:03

recession companies are going to have to

21:05

be more careful with how they spend

21:07

money so why would you spend money on

21:09

regular TV advertising when you could

21:11

use connected TV advertising or you

21:13

could get the advantages of uid too

21:15

through some of the services that a

21:16

company like trade desk provides why not

21:19

go to a company like trade desk and have

21:21

a substantially more efficient

21:22

advertising platform than than

21:25

potentially waste your money on Facebook

21:27

like I'm not trying to bag on Facebook

21:29

obviously I'm biased here I invest in

21:31

trade desk and I don't invest in

21:33

Facebook because I don't believe in

21:34

reality labs and I do believe in uid too

21:36

but it's an interesting thing to think

21:38

about again this will all be foot and

21:40

mouth if they miss earnings here uh when

21:42

when earnings come up but it's

21:44

fascinating because you are in this sort

21:46

of Brave New World of advertising where

21:48

Snapchat's having trouble figuring it

21:49

out their user base is very young

21:51

Pinterest somewhat a bit of a Dying

21:55

platform Google is getting sued by the

21:57

Department of Justice for potentially

21:58

being a monopoly on sell side

22:00

advertising for brokering website ads

22:02

then you have Facebook which is throwing

22:04

all their money away on reality labs and

22:06

so when you start looking at the

22:08

advertisers who do you really have left

22:10

that's like a pure play Advertiser well

22:12

in my opinion one of the few Pure Play

22:15

advertisers is trade desk on the other

22:17

hand you have apple but apple is great

22:20

uh uh on one hand because of Apple ads

22:23

you know obviously a little bit biased

22:26

with apple because Apple can kind of

22:28

make it harder for everybody else to

22:30

advertise while at the same time

22:31

pitching their own ad business but

22:33

Apple's not a pure play ad business

22:34

right Apple's a products and services

22:36

business

22:37

and then there's a little bit of

22:38

advertising in there so from a pure play

22:40

advertising point of view I think trade

22:42

desk is probably the the best option

22:44

that exists hashtag no guarantees

22:46

obviously uh and uh then after that

22:48

you're probably maybe considering

22:50

companies like Disney or uh Netflix for

22:54

their exposure to TV advertising but

22:56

then again I'm not entirely convinced on

22:58

their ability to convert uh ads to

23:01

profitability through Disney Plus or

23:03

Netflix and instead I'd rather be

23:06

investing again in the pickaxe instead

23:08

of the company itself in that case and

23:10

who's the pickaxe for Disney's connected

23:12

TV trade desk so kind of all points back

23:16

the trade test now again no guarantees

23:18

but I'm very very excited uh about trade

23:21

desk in the advertising space and I

23:23

think it's a good place uh to to have

23:25

exposure uh especially since your

23:28

financials pretty solid again no

23:31

guarantees few fourth quarter is going

23:32

to be great but you've got revenue that

23:34

increased in the third quarter year over

23:36

year 30 percent uh now what we can do is

23:39

we can kind of compare that to what it

23:41

was in the prior nine months to get a

23:43

little bit of a trend I I don't have

23:45

that written down here so let's do that

23:46

really quick let's divide

23:47

divide by 808 that puts us at about 35

23:50

so you've got a slight slow down that's

23:52

already been realized but uh you've had

23:55

so in other words you had 35 growth in

23:57

the first nine months of the year down

23:59

to about 30 growth still growth uh but

24:02

what I love about this company is the

24:05

margins uh that they have and we've

24:08

gotta unfortunately what then that makes

24:09

this a potentially a little bit harder

24:12

one to analyze is the pink that I've

24:15

highlighted here shows a single one-time

24:18

large boost in stock based comp for the

24:21

CEO a little bit of a problem here

24:23

because it makes it look like trade desk

24:26

almost lost money they didn't they made

24:29

about 16 mil but it's a substantial

24:31

plummet from the 2021 60 million rev or

24:35

net income rather if in the fourth

24:38

quarter growth stays stable at above 25

24:41

and we get that stock base comp out we

24:44

should see some pretty good margins at

24:47

the come company which is exciting to me

24:49

especially since their platform

24:51

operations are basically their their uh

24:53

uh margin right that's for gross margin

24:56

so if we look at 70 million dollars in

24:59

expenses out of 394 million Revenue

25:01

you're only talking about 17 in expenses

25:04

which means you've got about an 82

25:05

percent gross profit margin Opex grew at

25:11

uh about 44 so we want in terms of sales

25:14

and marketing so we want to keep an eye

25:15

on potentially sales and marketing

25:17

growing faster than rev so this is not a

25:20

risk-free company but it's definitely a

25:22

company that I think has upside from

25:24

here and again no guarantees but it's

25:26

one I'm excited about so uh these are

25:28

some of the things that fundamentally

25:30

I'm uh watching and curious to know your

25:33

thoughts so uh leave me some comments

25:35

now uh you know question here what about

25:37

Google uh you know Google Google I think

25:40

again great exposure for uh for what

25:44

you've got uh to YouTube big fan of that

25:46

however YouTube Red Avenue actually

25:48

suffered a decline in the last Google

25:51

earnings report now we're going to get

25:52

Google earnings today so hopefully it

25:54

goes back that's what I'm going to be

25:55

looking for in the Google earnings is

25:57

I'm going to be looking for a return to

25:59

YouTube advertising growth take a look

26:02

at this this on screen right here is

26:04

Google's uh ad network uh income and you

26:08

could actually see that in 2021 you got

26:11

7.2 million dollars for YouTube ads but

26:13

only 7 billion dollars uh in 2022 which

26:16

is a decline of about 1.85 percent

26:18

Google search still grew but then again

26:21

Google search is where they're suffering

26:22

from the uh Department of Justice

26:24

inquiry into into their models right so

26:28

and you've got Google Cloud growth

26:30

slowing so these are some things to pay

26:33

attention to for Google again not a pure

26:35

play advertising play uh so again

26:38

watching I think the next earnings calls

26:41

especially the Google one today will be

26:43

very insightful and and those will be

26:44

things that I'm paying attention to but

26:46

some of my thoughts there on the

26:47

advertising amazing sector hopefully

26:49

that on Advertising was insightful or

26:52

interesting to you

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