What Alex Hormozi isn't Telling You
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you know what there is a process that
when I got into this I didn't understand
in this video I'm going to break down
what bone I have to pick with Alex Heros
we're going to go through what I like
what I don't like and where some
additional perspective could be useful
to finalize some of Alex's thoughts on
entrepreneurship sales and success
especially in business oh and by the way
hi I'm me Kevin I provide financial news
and commentary here on YouTube or
wherever you're watching me I'm a
license financial adviser and got like
almost every series license under the
sun we manage over $100 million and
hopefully have a couple startups on the
way to a billion plus of dollars and I
started as a real estate broker in sales
license lender license contractor so
hopefully I've got some insights that
are useful to help you become better at
sales and Entrepreneurship so with that
said let's get into it the first thing
that I think is a copout and and I don't
want to start negative and harsh because
I like a lot of what Alex says but I
have to say the first thing that I think
is a cop out that if you're not doing
some of the other things we're going to
talk about here you shouldn't even be
thinking about this but I hate hearing
this I hear it all the time people like
why is your business not succeeding no
duh you are not running enough ads
advertise you can chunk it up oh yeah uh
let let's be real about this for a
moment ads especially when you're
starting out as an entrepreneur or
business owner not only do they cost a
lot of money but they need to be done
correctly and let's be clear I'm not
here to sell you on Advertising because
there are plenty of firms that are going
to call you all day long suggesting you
can become a millionaire if you just
advertised more because after all if you
could put a dollar in and get $2 out why
would you not do more of that but the
problem for most entrepreneurs and
business owners isn't getting the
attention it's what to do when you have
that attention now there are two styles
of selling and many forget this okay you
could go with the script based this is
very much the door knock we got to close
this transaction right here I've done
this before as well door to-door sales
totally different ball game from
relationship selling now most folks
haven't considered which typee of sales
they're in and this is a problem because
if you can sell with running a script by
knocking on a door then sales becomes a
purely numbers game it's transactional
how many NOS to get to a yes not all
sales is like that and this is where a
lot of people make a little oopsy
dupsies so you could run ads all day
long
and give your script but if you're in
the wrong type of sales for your
industry then maybe it doesn't matter
how good your script is or how many ads
you got coming in the market is telling
you they don't want your product the
market is really good at telling people
what the market wants let's make it
simple if you're not selling they don't
want your product or service is it the
script or are you using the wrong sales
method yes it could be the script Alex
Heros is right maybe you didn't have a
script maybe your script is bad maybe
there are things to improve on here
maybe you just stink you know you got to
take a shower and dress up and put a
shoot on a suit on and shave or clarify
the way you explain things to folks or
how you react to them I come from a
world of relationship selling and that's
not to say script based selling is bad
you could use scripts to lead into
relationship selling here's the
difference let's say you're a real
estate agent or you're somebody trying
to sell something and you're doing an
open house or some kind of event where
somebody comes to you people are coming
to you because they have a problem or a
need people who go into an open house
are usually neighbors who want to know
what their Market values are so they can
buy or talk about selling in the future
notice it's not the tenants who usually
come through it's other potential
sellers great way to get sellers is open
houses by the way most people like is
this the look L neighbor those are
sellers they're vetting you for the
future when they want to go sell or
they're home buyers or investors who
need help the problem is the thing is
when people come to you they have a
problem even when you go to them your
goal when you start off this script is
discussing a problem for example let's
say you're selling uh Pest Control you
knock on the door hey you know we're
just doing some Pest Control in the
neighborhood right over here we noticed
you've got some problems with these
cobwebs over here and a little bit of a
potential rat intrusion over here and
hate to see those around you and you got
children your children this this is how
can we help you while while we're here
maybe we could throw in a discount right
that that might be your script or your
pattern to get start with to get started
with but all sales ultimately wins in my
opinion when you employ empathy and that
was really in my opinion missing from
Alex Hero's last presentation which I
link down below I thought it was good
but empathy is a very very big missing
piece and of course we've got many other
missing pieces here we've got to talk to
but when people come to you at for
example a Sales Event they're not there
to be sold nobody wants to be sold
they're there because they need help or
information or data when they come to an
agent how is the market doing you better
be prepared with data what's the best
school district what's the crime you
better know these answers it's the same
thing as when you go to a car dealership
you say hey I need eight seats I've got
children coming and I need at least two
of the seats to have latch systems for
car seats and I've got other ones that
are going to be in booster seats how am
I going to strap these in you have
something with four latch and and you
know still eight seats you need a
salesperson that can say all right well
you're going to be looking at a seat SI
or an odyssey look we sell Sienna here
but what I recommend you do is make sure
you also go across the street and go to
that Odyssey dealer because I want you
to make the best decision for you and
your family now here here's what you're
going to see between the two when you go
look at that Odyssey across the street I
want you to pay attention to you know
this difference it has a little bit of a
larger trunk let's just say but oh man
but it doesn't have you know XYZ that
you might be looking for pay attention
to that and then compare that to this
take them both on the drive listen
specifically for the sound the
transmission makes when you change it
right that's building value for your
customers which everybody talks about
providing value building value I used to
be called meet Kevin which was
trademarked the trademarked no pressure
agent providing more value I trademarked
all of those meet Kevin providing more
and no pressure agent all of those
because I think that's the value of a
salesperson is you don't have to
pressure somebody to sell you can use
empathy and relationship to sell you
could start that relationship with a
script and they come together but most
folks start here and they get so stuck
on a script that they forget that sales
is about providing value and helping
people solve a solution that is human
sales will always always be a human
business it is
so frustrating me when people try to
dehumanize what sales is nobody wants to
sell or nobody wants to buy something
from a dag just like nobody wants to
feel like they're forced into buying
something you know I I don't have what
10,000 people who have signed up for my
courses on Building Wealth in stocks or
real estate or property management or
you know my entrepreneurial courses I
don't have people signing up for those
or thousands of people coming to my
course member live streams because they
were forced into it they come because
they want value and perspective and they
perceive that somebody else has a
perspective that could help them right
and so your goal is to do exactly that
how could you increase that value
perception and you don't have to start
off a video with oh I got all these
licenses hundred million working towards
bills what none of that matters when I
started as a real estate agent I started
as somebody at open houses just to stand
there and share people people's pain and
frustration with them about specifically
the market at the time because we were
just coming out of the the 2008
recession and people were scared they
were worried about a double dip
recession they were worried about this
Shadow inventory of homes coming up for
sales uh or for sale that would that
would end up crashing the market and so
my job became being an educator for
people so that they could feel
comfortable in making a decision for
what they wanted to buy or what they
wanted to do so that's very important
and that's something that we forget so
this idea that you should just advertise
more in my opinion is a complete copout
there are plenty of opportunities to get
clients without blowing money on ads now
let's bring that to the next thing that
Alex does great and that is followup boy
he is so right when He suggests that
people do not follow up enough if you're
in sales or you're in business simple
followup up could be the difference
between getting a deal and not I have a
rule of thumb the last one to be on the
phone with a prospect is the one who
gets the deal give you an example you
put an offer in for whatever it is you
want or you give a client a contact you
give them some information you provide
some value you're like I did such good
work I provided so much value for this
client uh they're sure to use me as what
you think so you're so enthusiastic andc
excited because you followed the rule
you provided value you did the best you
could but you didn't follow up so I have
a
rule it's when you provide value on a
Wednesday and the client says they're
going to make a decision on a Friday
guess what's going to happen that Friday
evening that Thursday morning that
Thursday afternoon and that Friday
morning before that client makes a
decision everybody else is going to
Pepper them everybody else is going to
provide more value and their value is
going to be more recent than yours
because now that seller could say to
that Thursday call they got well you
know I had this guy yesterday that's you
tell me this this this and then they go
oh well you know that's great but here's
how what we're doing is even better oops
it's usually the person with the last
phone call who wins so Alex trosi 100%
correct about followup I want to give
him massive credit on this we've got to
pay attention to followup that's
something that most people get wrong uh
it's amazing to me how few salespeople
actually follow up with me when I'm
interested in doing something
specifically in for example for my real
estate startup purchasing good deals
it's surprising me how few actually
follow up unless we're constantly
reaching out to them it's like it's our
job to follow up with the salespeople to
remind them to follow up with us yeah
kind of exhausting now another thing
that Alex does great which I think is
somewhat interesting from a speaking
point of view I'm not sure how great it
is from a close in point of view from a
speaking point of view he he does a lot
of affirming with his audience for
example a lot of statements like hey you
know how to turn on a computer right do
you know how to turn on a computer yeah
yeah yeah yeah can we agree that people
with more Charisma sell more yeah do you
agree whatever you want to make more
money are you here to make these are
great in motivational style
speaking I don't think they're that
great in one-on-one deal closing and I
think that's where a little more Nuance
is useful as well so if we're one-on-one
deal closing generally what we're
looking at is not asking affirming duh
questions be more charismatic right can
we agree that if someone's more
charismatic they might do better in this
field in general yeah cool but actually
empathetic questions that are specific
to somebody's goals so for example you
sit down with a client hey um why are
you selling oh you know tired of uh
dealing with this property we inherited
it blah blah have you thought about
renting the property out oh you know I I
I just don't know how much it would cost
to have a property manager well what if
I told you it would cost 10% a month of
the monthly rent to have a tenant H well
you know I really don't want to deal
with the headache of having tenant okay
no problem see what you've done in that
you may be thinking like well you're a
salesperson why why would you suggest
that well what you've done there is
you've empathized hey you know have you
thought about not hiring me and looking
at the other option have you thought
about going across the street looking at
that Odyssey that is a way of building
empathy because you are not just
somebody there who's trying to cram
something down somebody's throat to get
them sign a contract that's where people
go wrong with the scripts and I'm not
saying scripts can't work but eventually
after you break that ice with your
script and you know what to say when
that phone rings uh or or you call or
you knock on that door move empathy
one of the easiest sales I ever closed
door-to-door selling Pest Control was a
woman who we found out was married uh to
a husband that was working a lot after
uh the script opener we realized she was
pretty stressed over the fact that her
husband wasn't really around that much
so I said hey you know who currently
does the pest control for your house oh
well you know my husband does it when he
has time and gets around to it well what
if we could get something off of your
husband's plate wouldn't that help sold
like right there let's just take the
wallet out and give it to you just all
in on getting something off of her
husband's plate so that was
great so that personto person empathy
very very frequently forgotten and I
think this is very important it's not
something that advertising can actually
solve uh and that's useful for
remembering completely agree by the way
when Alex says that your skills compound
your ability to speak and follow up and
your charisma compounds over time the
more you do the better you become but on
doing and
becoming I have a little bit of a
reaction here okay Heros suggests that
you should do in order to become so
basically simplify everything look at
who you want to be and then just do it
this is very similar to be the change
you want to see in the world want to
make more money than do what successful
people are doing right there's a quote
watch what successful people are doing
and copy
it I actually don't think that's great
for two reasons number one there is
something called the
toxicity of
Relativity so we'll just call it the
toxicity of R this is when you compare
yourself to other people so much so that
you actually just become miserable
you're like okay I I thought I was doing
better than them and I'm doing what
they're doing we actually ended up both
at the same listing presentation they
went first then I went obviously
generally different times if you're a
real estate broker whatever but then you
see the other person get the listing
you're miserable you're like why didn't
they choose me and you feel resentment
towards the person that you're trying to
emulate resentment turns into hate and
it's it's vicious it's very negative it
means your successes are never good
enough because somebody's better than
you and your losses are like acid on you
comparing yourself to other people is a
horrible thing to do in the business
World instead and this is the the second
part where we can kind of build off of
what her MOSI says a much better
strategy than comparing yourself to
other people is not saying what is
somebody in a place I want to be in
doing so I can emulate them and get
there a better thing would be to say
what can I do
better than that other person because if
I want to be like somebody else but I
could actually do something better than
them well now we really start
potentially winning because now not only
are we seeing them as sort of the bare
minimum but now you're looking at your
idol as a stepping stone on the way to
what you really want to do which is
providing a better product or solution
than maybe what they're offering and
this of course is important to consider
as well is that if you're in an
environment where you want to sell a
better hot dog than somebody else well
it's difficult you know the Costco hot
dog's basically a lost leader for
example so if you want to get into the
hot dog business outside of Costco you
know the market might not be too uh too
happy no matter how EP or or too
enthusiastic no matter how empathetic
you are however if you can provide
provide a service that is 10 times
better than somebody else because you're
uh a plumber who does clean work shows
up on time is empathetic gives
reasonable bids uh works nights and
weekends whatever you got to do to get
started well well now all of a sudden
you could actually bring in more
business because you're able to provide
value where others are not able or
willing to provide that value again not
saying you want to be working 24/7 but
when you get started you kind of got to
do what you got to do so not a big fan
of comparing yourself to others big I do
like the phrase of compare yourself to
your future self that's great but Alex
went straight from that into look at
what other people are doing in copy we I
I've heard that my whole career and boy
I'll tell you it is it is
toxic now another thing that I I heard a
lot of was about having this inversion
mindset of how do you guarantee to lose
and it's okay well don't work scroll on
Tik Tok
uh you know don't go hold that open
house for Real Estate or whatever and
then his thinking is do the
opposite this is this is good this is
it's not bad I mean obviously like you
can actually do versus not do then then
yeah like you only have yourself to
blame if you're not actually getting out
there and trying to put the grind in
when you're start starting a
business my big thing
for guaranteeing more
success is optimism optimism and
progress now this is an interesting hack
watch this let's say you feel like
you're stagnating in your business and
like it's grown but now it feels like
it's somewhat
stagnating sometimes what I've actually
done on purpose is I've created a little
bit of a reset where you're kind of
resetting at zero or it almost feels
that way but you have all of your
experience and your branding or whatever
still with you and your goal becomes how
can I now Now kill those ideas or
projects or marketing methods or ads or
whatever we were doing before kill
everything and just start over and then
start building on stuff that
works right so just take the best and
kind of start over one of the things
that's neat here is you actually
psychologically get a hit with this
reset but then everything you do starts
looking like progress as you climb back
to where you were and then the goal is
to exceed it and boy once you start
exceeding where you were that Delta
right
here that just creates Euphoria and an
entrepreneur somebody trying to suce
somebody's trying to succeed success is
in my opinion not about money it's kind
of like Sam Alman says Sam Alman argued
in a blog he posted probably four or
five years ago you know the open AI guy
uh he's like you know many people start
an entrepreneurship for money but they
leave just wanting to have provided for
Humanity that is amazing and the more
success you could provide the more you
want to keep building it becomes less
about the dollar it becomes more about
providing and that's a really fun place
to be in so what else well then one
thing I completely and wholeheartedly
agree with is Heros suggested that if
your plan requires luck it's a bad plan
love that one that's great uh luck luck
is fantastic but you can't plan on it
not only can you not plan on it but you
could give a lot of luck to a criminal
eventually the luck runs out and they
still end up in jail you can give a lot
of unluckiness to somebody who
perseveres and eventually the bad luck
runs out and they get really lucky and
then people look and go wow that person
like became an overnight millionaire and
then people go no that person's been
grinding for 12 years and then they
became a millionaire it's so easy to
forget on the outside looking in
especially
with the sort of Tik Tok and Instagram
mentality and rented jet mentality that
we kind of see on the internet these
days which is pretty sad uh but that's
very common because the idea is oh show
the lambo show the rented jet oh show
the big mansion and the lifestyle and oh
I could go in the Apple store and buy
whatever all that stuff is it's
such bull crap it's ridiculous anyway
next uh Hermos talks about starting to
make change when you're busy make it
work in the worst condition this is
interesting I I kind of liked where he
was going with this his idea is that hey
don't wait until the perfect time to
start making a change make the change
now like what are you waiting for make
the change now even if you're busy now
then stay up an extra couple hours pour
yourself another cup of coffee and get
to work stop being a little weenie and
get to work I actually like that and uh
one of the things that's so useful about
making changes when you're busy is it
forces you to be more efficient the
easiest tip that I could give when it
comes to efficiency is making sure that
every time you run into an inefficiency
you fix it don't wait so if you're like
H my phone's out of battery again why do
you not have more Chargers they're like
$15 on Amazon for a pack of two so get
some more charger so you don't run into
that situation same thing is true for
your car or your travel bag why are you
always forgetting your tooth paste or
your razor or this that what have a
duplicate now all of a sudden you make a
small investment to be exponentially
more efficient last thing you want is to
start off your day on the wrong foot
just because you couldn't find something
or your computer's dead or you forgot
something these are just the basic
barriers that that make it much easier
to succeed when you don't fall victim to
those nonsensical traps shortening your
commute is a nice one too and so little
Aristotle little ancient Greek we are
what we repeated so this is not actually
an Aristotle quote uh it is a
misattribution mostly because it was an
interpretation of a dude in the
1920s who thought that's basically what
Aristotle meant and so what Aristotle
meant uh had a lot to do with excellence
and so the idea of Excellence is really
about how do you
live The Good Life
and so the idea of living the good life
is really to have a balance you dial
everything to the mean nothing to the
excess you drink in moderation not too
little not in excess you play in
moderation not in excess not too little
otherwise you're miserable or you're a
loser and you don't do anything right so
there's the idea of Excellence is quite
simply this when you do you want to be
excellent in what you do but you want to
do those things in moderation you want
to provide the best service possible for
your clients but you don't want to be so
extreme that you maybe come across as
high pressure or annoying or too
laxidasical that you become lazy so it's
not just a matter of you are what you do
so to speak but it's the balance the
moderation in how you do it uh and
that's why I kind of keep going back to
this idea of people believe that a
business is simply run ads and win the
more ads the more
winning no no no no no maybe run ads in
moderation like retargeting
advertisements to people who've
expressed that they're interested but
then at the same time you also need to
have scripts in moderation to be able to
answer that phone the first time
correctly then you need empathy not so
much that you're calling them every day
like they're your girlfriend or
boyfriend but enough to show you care
and it's when you put the whole package
together that it becomes a lot easier to
succeed as an entrepreneur now the last
comment that I have for Alex heroi is in
reaction to his idea that intelligence
is defined as how quickly you are able
to
learn I actually believe that it becomes
easier to learn faster the more you
learn that when when we generally think
of intelligence we kind of think of
something that we're born with kind of
like our character stat when we start
out in a video game like H you know I
got five out of 10 intellect but I
picked strength right or oh I got nine
out of 10 intellect but I got a one for
strength all of those things in my
opinion can be changed you could go to
the gym and actually work out or work
out more uh if that's important to you
uh obviously being healthy to some
extent is important to everybody
everything in moderation right but
intelligence Alex trosi defines as the
rate of your ability to learn I actually
think when you learn your
intelligence and your rate of the
ability to learn more actually starts
speeding up so the more learning you do
the easier it is because not only do you
know how to learn more efficiently but
things start relating more and you're
able to wire your brain better notice
what I drew was not actually a linear
line for those math folks learning is
exponential boy I wish that marker had
worked there we go learning is
exponential in my opinion and so I
believe that if you can learn faster
when you learn more then your
intelligence can actually go up over
time and the intelligence is maybe just
a measure of the slope of a line at any
given point and so the more you learn
the the steeper that slope is uh so look
that's my take this is no hate on heroi
it's just additional perspective and if
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