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What Cathie Wood JUST Said | Weakening Market

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hey everyone me kevin here in this video

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i'm going to break down what kathy wood

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just said i'm going to add perspective

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and commentary as well as my opinion to

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add to what she said to provide more

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insights into what the heck is going on

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so first things first and this is

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expected m2 money supply growth is down

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even though qe quantitative easing by

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the federal reserve the buying of

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treasury bonds and mortgage-backed

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securities is still happening we are

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seeing the money supply no longer grow

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with the crazy rate it was growing at a

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previously was growing at 27

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and then now it's just growing at 12

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which is still higher than pre pandemic

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but m2 money supply does represent the

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amount of money in the economy at any

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given point in time and m2 is definitely

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increased by things like stimulus

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payments eidl grants the idea loans ppp

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money unemployment money stimulus money

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and even though we have things like the

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child tax credit the monthly child tax

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credit coming to individuals now the

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unemployment boost is coming to an end

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the 300 per week that comes to an end

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this week and we don't have as many

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stimulus programs as we previously had

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ppp is over eidl is over uh stimulus

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checks so far are over now when we do

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get to the next sort of hopeful stimulus

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package we look at the 3.5 trillion

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dollar package kathy wood is not a big

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fan here she echoes joe manchin that

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centrist democrats arguments that we've

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got to be careful about the potential

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for inflation if we keep spending this

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three and a half trillion dollars on uh

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supposedly investments in america at a

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time when our gdp uh or debt to gdp

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ratio is over 100 now kathy wood is not

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a big fan of the big infrastructure

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package though it's worth mentioning our

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debt payments as a level of debt that we

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have are at the lowest they have ever

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been in history obviously this has in

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part to do with interest rates

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but it is worth mentioning that the

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federal reserve and the united states

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government have kind of

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re-jiggered how they look at the debt

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instead of saying i forget about the

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overall level we'll just look at the

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interest rate payments which is kind of

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concerning for when they do go up

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but in fairness even if interest rates

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went up to where our debt payments

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doubled we would still have lower debt

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payments than we had in the mid 90s and

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this is something that kathy did not

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mention is kind of something to keep in

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mind when you're thinking about

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government spending and the government

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debt levels just perspective not taken

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aside uh kathy does not think that

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without joe manchin this package will

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pass she believes that this three and a

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half a trillion dollar uh proposed

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investment by the government will just

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end up being taxed away by job creators

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well by the government and then if job

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creators are taxed then then we'll

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basically tax away the benefits uh and

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so she sees a big boxing mat match

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unfolding over this over the next month

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which is something that we've been

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covering as well we do expect pearson

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cinema

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joe manchin

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democrats especially with this new

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abortion law that is all going to be

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duked out in the house of

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representatives and the senate over the

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next uh well three weeks here so things

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to pay attention to now uh kathy wood

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then gets to some statistics on what's

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happening in the market she mentions

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mentions that manufacturing hours worked

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are down about 0.5 percent now sometimes

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and this is my perspective sometimes we

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can actually see a decline in

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manufacturing hours worked when we stop

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paying individuals overtime because we

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finally can start getting other

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individuals who do not be uh need to be

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paid overtime which is obviously less

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expensive and then reduces the average

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hours worked per individual now i

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believe we actually can get these

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statistics pretty easily basically what

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you would do here is you would just

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google bls a labor report

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give that a google you'll always get the

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employment summary for the last date you

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scroll to the bottom and what you're

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looking for are the charts average hours

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of uh or average weekly hours work and

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so this is the particular chart here

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that kathy

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would have been looking at and so we go

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over here to manufacturing ah yup see

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not a surprise take a look at this you

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can see that in july we were actually

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working 40.5 hours which that that's

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overtime right so businesses are

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incentivized to reduce that and they did

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they reduced that 0.6 hours so kathy i

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don't know if that's so much of a

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catalyst for uh for a shift in

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manufacturing here as it is more of a a

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shift towards uh people not getting paid

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overtime which is very expensive when

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you can find more labor you stop paying

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overtime right this makes sense and you

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can't salary manufacturing employees

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unless they're like supervisors it's

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also worth mentioning that because

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that's why you would see average hourly

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average hours worked up in my opinion

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just because it's obviously way easier

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to track your hours hourly than it is

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with salary

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construction employment she mentions uh

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also down potentially due to supply

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constraints here i agree with her

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we are seeing a little bit of a hold up

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at the new construction builders and

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there are massive wait lists for new

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construction homes right now because

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well the real estate market is booming

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and lumber prices are still extremely

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high but so are other components like

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appliances

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furnaces whatever things have been

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delayed uh now so she does say and i

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thought this was interesting she

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literally says quote the economy is

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weakening fundamentally

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okay i i i don't know if i so much agree

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with this here but let's analyze a

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little bit more here so she mentions

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that we still have 10 million jobs

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unfilled and that many maybe jobs just

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don't pay enough money she references

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walmart's pay increase uh then

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references jerome powell's argument

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saying maybe people have a skill set

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mismatch which is basically what jerome

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powell says every time he's at his

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podium about how people have lost their

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jobs in their own pandemic were

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unemployed so long now it's harder to

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get back into the labor force because

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their skills have deteriorated or not at

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least kept pace with the economy or you

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know best case scenario actually evolved

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with the economy and that's a problem

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that makes it harder for people to go

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back to work i don't know if

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that's the economy fundamentally

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weakening although i do believe that her

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fundamental weakening is more of a

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reference to this horrible

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jobs miss that we had on friday i think

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everybody was blown away it came in at

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235 000 which was a very very low uh for

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a jobs report missed all expectations

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uh she does though mention that hey you

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know there are some positives we've got

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initial unemployment claims that have uh

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peaked right we're down to uh 340

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thousand it was much worse during the

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pandemic we're much closer to normal

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levels now we're still seeing a slight

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increase in personal income 1.1 percent

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uh still seeing a new and existing homes

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go up in pricing but we are starting to

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see inventory peak up or creep up she

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mentions uh she mentions that in some

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markets we've seen this panic buying now

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uh in this i always like to go to the

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redfin data center

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because it is true that inventory has

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creeped up but we've also started to see

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that flip a little bit so worth

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mentioning here just so you can see it

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so first of all new listings are

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following the typical annual trend here

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you saw it in 2020 you saw it in 19 and

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18. very worth comparing to 19 and 18

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obviously so new listings doing the

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natural rotation down new listing median

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home prices

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inflected down and i thought this was a

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flattening and inflection down was a

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little bit of a concern

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for for the market but look at that new

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listing median home prices are actually

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going up again we had this little

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inflection up again which i thought was

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incredible uh and then pending home

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sales are just kind of following their

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their seasonal decline here so it's

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worth noting that you are still seeing

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new listings but you're seeing new

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listings and pending sales at a lower or

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slower rate

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but yeah look in some markets is

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inventory finally starting to catch up a

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little bit yes now kathy doesn't make

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any mention of the eviction crisis which

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uh you know could end up leading us with

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in my opinion somewhere between 7 to 12

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percent more inventory on the market for

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those that end up going through eviction

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and those that end up selling unless of

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course congress's rent relief actually

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finally goes out to the freaking people

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which governors like kevin newsom have

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been abject failures at providing to

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people

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that's why he's getting recalled anyway

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uh purchasing managers index kathy wood

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says is a very strong 66.7 and

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levitating she says businesses are

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potentially here uh scrambling to catch

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up now i actually um

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take a little bit of a different stance

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on this as well i don't consider massive

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purchases by businesses businesses

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scrambling to catch up though i do

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believe that

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maybe some of the reason is is a catch

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up because we've had these shortages but

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i think there's actually a bigger reason

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for this uh and look i'm not trying to

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discredit her reason as business is

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trying to scramble to catch up i just

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think that's maybe 30 or 40 percent of

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the issue i think the bigger issue and

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it's not really an issue is that

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businesses got so screwed by not having

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enough inventory on hand that they're

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purposefully over ordering and

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overloading up their inventories to

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prepare for the christmas selling season

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that's my take if i got screwed during

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the pandemic for not having enough

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inventory you can bet my next order is

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going to be 30 larger just so i have a

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little bit of a buffer or heck to exit

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whatever you know what i mean so capital

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spending she says has been very strong

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tech spending uh shift uh to get in tune

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with the digital age she very much

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thinks that we are going to see this

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continued shift to spending on stay at

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home work from home digital age remember

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investor and zoom it makes sense uh and

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she's not wrong i do believe zoom

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docusign these things are here to stay

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to some degree

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uh

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well their growth is is going to be soft

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when i say to some degree it's worth

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clarifying i believe that they're not

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going to grow with that exponential rate

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we saw during the pandemic but i do

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still think that they will grow

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industrial production very strong 1.4

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percent again businesses either playing

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catch-up or pre-ordering you know okay

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now she gets to the negative catalyst

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which i thought some of the ones she

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kind of lumped under positive for

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overall were negative uh but but maybe a

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little

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overly negative i personally don't think

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the unemployment number was

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unnecessarily that horrible uh look i

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wish more people were employed but i do

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think it represents fears over the delta

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variant because look you're still able

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to spread delta uh when when you're

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vaccinated when people go to restaurants

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what do they do they take their masks

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off so it's like the two defenses we

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have for covet are gone right it's like

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you're still spreading it and don't get

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me wrong i'm for vaccination i

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understand that vaccines help reduce

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hospitalizations but if the covered

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vaccine does not prevent the spread

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university of oxford two weeks ago found

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out the same viral loads same likelihood

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of spreading right now you might be

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contagious for slightly less periods of

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time that is fair but if you're still

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spreading it you're still spreading it

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right

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so you've got two things here that

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that kind of hurt the pandemic right

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especially then hurts those who are

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either unvaccinated or

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can't get vaccinated for medical reasons

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or they have children and they're like

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well i don't want my children to get the

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potentially coveted delta variant

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worth noting hospital admissions are

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skyrocketing for children which is very

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very sad

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anyway uh kathy woods cites the

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university of michigan consumer

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sentiment uh she says that uh this level

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dropped to 2011 levels uh back in 2011

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by the way i made a video about this the

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sentiment index by the way as well about

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a week and a half ago uh and that's not

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to slam kathy whatever i'm just saying

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i'm not going to go into super detail

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here uh but it is interesting to note

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that in 2011 uh we were worried about

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the double dip back then kathy mentions

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we had a lot of fears about the economy

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back then i remember that being defined

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as the double dip recession which

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obviously never came everybody's always

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worried about the double dip i remember

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in 2020 march people are like that's it

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we're gonna have a double dip you just

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wait you just wait and then we never

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have a double dip

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anyway like that that original peak fear

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rarely comes back all right

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retail sales we talked about these

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plummeting and this is fair but i don't

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know if this is the economy weakening i

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think the economy is actually very very

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resilient i think this is just a classic

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delta shift and it's also an expected

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shift after the explosion of reopening

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that i think we had in the summer uh

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remember we are also seeing it and we've

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talked about this uh it's worth

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mentioning that we're seeing the same

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thing happen at hotels uh airlines foot

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traffic at uh at outdoor malls these

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things are declining so worth mentioning

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specifically airlines and hotel bookings

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more than seasonal declines we did a

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video on this where uh hotels are are

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saying wait a minute we're getting more

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cancellations than usual now as well

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this is odd so that could put a damper

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on hiring as well obviously we're also

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seeing less job postings

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for things like child care and dental

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offices also worth noting which those

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are very

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delta affected

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now uh mentions that uh if if you

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calculate with inflation uh hourly

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earnings real hourly earnings are down

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1.1 percent mentions that uh auto sales

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have peaked at 8.5 million units in

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february we're down to 13 million units

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in august she believes that and i

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actually completely agree with kathy

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here she believes that look people

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bought their cars they got their

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stimulus money uh they they wanted their

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own vehicle they were maybe commuting

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more because or maybe now they're

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commuting more because of the work from

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home so people bought cars over the last

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you know six eight months but now

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they've bought their cars uh and so uh

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you know she

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alludes to these twitter wars that she

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has of uh people saying oh well i mean

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what do you mean the the auto sales have

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hit peak have you seen car lots there

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are no cars to be bought this is true in

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fact i was reading a report yesterday

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that uh over labor day weekend this

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weekend some car lots are going to sell

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down sat are going to close saturday and

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sunday because they don't have any cars

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to sell and this is usually the most

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important time for car sales it's also

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worth noting people keep asking me like

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what do i think about shift well look

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this car shortage and the fact that

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people may have already bought their

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cars i think it's horrible for companies

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like shift i think it's horrible for

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carvana and vroom or whatever just

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because there's a car shortage and

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prices are going up doesn't mean that

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your revenue goes up because even though

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your revenue might go up per vehicle

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you don't have enough to keep making

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money so i think it's a big problem and

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we are seeing that decline in car sales

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kathy's right about that now

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obviously there's uh there have been a

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lot of complaints about chip shortages

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but kathy mentions no no for those

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twitter warriors it's it's more than

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that and she brings up the manheim used

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vehicle index which she's right the

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value of used car prices uh have have

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inflected down now they have not

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inflected down as much as what we had

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here so we're seeing another little

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inflection point here where prices are

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are still maintaining pretty high levels

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kathy wood mentions that this is very

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similar to the fallen lumber prices but

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kathy it's worth also mentioning

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that

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lumber prices hit a bottom

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and uh now they're back they're trending

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back up again which is crazy i thought

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they would just go straight down but it

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is worth mentioning that take a look at

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the one month on lumber kathy did not

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mention this look at the uh

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the one month here we are higher than

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where we were one month ago you go we're

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at 576 go out to the sixth month yeah

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look we we went down and this chart

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sucks we went down to a low here of like

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468 456 456 was the low uh certainly the

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high was like 1600 or whatever but we

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have inflected back up which is

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it is hard to wrap your head around but

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it's not as binary as it seems so i

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don't know if we could say

15:57

things are things are particularly as

15:59

weak as they seem yes there have been

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inflection points

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but it is definitely hard to say with

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certainty hey use car prices you're

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going to plummet again well they're not

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plummeting as fast as they did in that

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one month reading uh and and lumber

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prices are going back up which uh you

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know initially the thought was oh well

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if lumber prices go down then we won't

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have inflation because well look

16:17

commodities went up and now they're just

16:18

going to go back down it was temporary

16:20

well now they're going back up again

16:21

right so there there's so many things

16:23

about this economy that are so freaking

16:25

complicated

16:26

now uh she also mentions that uh oh big

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talk about how ev cars are gonna make

16:31

more sense used car prices are so high

16:34

you can't negotiate on new car prices

16:36

because well there's a lack of them so

16:38

you're paying sticker basically or some

16:40

people are even paying oversticker which

16:41

is nuts shows she actually thinks this

16:43

is going to help companies like tesla

16:45

she's bullish on tesla doing well for

16:47

this she believes that there will be a

16:49

brewing

16:50

buildup of gas-powered car inventory and

16:53

eventually we're going to see this

16:54

massive explosion of ev sales i agree

16:56

with her i do agree that ev sales are

16:58

going to explode over time

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she does mention that if this was merely

17:02

because of a chip shortage we would see

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the manheim index go up

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but

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again it's not falling as rapidly as it

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was so i think i think you could have

17:12

two things i think maybe the numbers got

17:13

a little too inflated but they're

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actually staying at higher levels

17:16

because of the chip shortage uh but yeah

17:17

look it is down from its peak so she's

17:19

not wrong she's also right about saying

17:22

that a lot of people have inventory at

17:23

their homes or in their driveways a lot

17:25

of cars are now in your driveway or in

17:27

your garage or you have maybe stocked up

17:29

on enough frozen meat in your garage

17:32

freezer you've uh

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which maybe you've uh you've stocked up

17:37

maybe you've stocked up on enough clorox

17:39

in your garage and paper towels or

17:40

whatever that you don't need to keep

17:43

buying these pandemic related products

17:45

because you already have enough

17:47

and so now you're seeing big declines i

17:49

looked it up clorox is down 15.43 over

17:51

the year she's not wrong she says that

17:53

the fixed income markets in other words

17:55

the bond market is not worried about

17:56

inflation it's a very cathy woody an

17:59

argument of uh hey we're not going to

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see inflation this is also where she

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talked about lumber again i rearranged

18:04

that a bit she mentions that she's got

18:07

an employee or staffer who's tracking

18:09

the nvidia rtx 3070 pricing uh worth

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mentioning that's one of the nicer uh

18:17

you know

18:18

chips that a lot of computers advertise

18:21

uh that they include

18:23

one of the things that i like doing is i

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like looking at the availability of

18:27

computers that have that chip built in

18:30

and she mentions how the msrp for this

18:32

product is 500 but now the thing's

18:35

selling for prices that are

18:36

substantially higher somewhere in the

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neighborhood of

18:40

1065 off of its peak but still selling

18:43

very high if you go to newegg right now

18:45

it's even a little bit higher this is

18:47

newegg where you can sort of track the

18:49

rtx uh 3070. worth noting here that best

18:53

buy has it for 4.99 price match

18:55

guarantee but what good does that do you

18:57

when it's sold out

18:59

uh so also recognizes an inflection

19:02

point there notices that prices of these

19:04

chips are going up as well now that

19:06

ethereum is is going back up now a very

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interesting one was as she mentions that

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the nxp ceo sold big shares not

19:15

according to a pre-plan she mentions

19:18

that uh well she didn't mention the

19:19

exact details but i i know this was

19:21

reported in barons this was a big story

19:24

in barons barons reported that the ceo

19:26

sold 29 million dollars worth of shares

19:29

and another co-executive sold 5.8

19:32

million dollars worth of shares this is

19:33

an auto group

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and and potentially that's kind of the

19:37

the danger of what what i've been saying

19:39

with like potentially a risk in some of

19:41

the car manufacturers or auto groups

19:43

because there's not enough uh to sell we

19:46

might see depressing numbers

19:49

mentions that a fang stocks have become

19:51

very defensive i had a comment the other

19:53

day as well where i mentioned hey it

19:54

looks like people are going into a fang

19:57

again you know people are using apple

19:58

and google as safety stocks it's a

20:01

flight to safety these stocks and

20:02

somebody went off on me for saying that

20:04

fang could be deemed safety look kathy

20:06

wood she thinks they're cash parks so

20:09

yeah people think they're safety but

20:11

anyway uh says that people are going to

20:13

growth value defensive and real estate

20:15

she does believe that a rotation to

20:17

innovation is happening obviously that

20:18

would be very good for arc and the arc

20:20

index funds uh says that look we got to

20:22

get back to evs ev cars better for the

20:25

environment crypto's taking off as uh

20:27

inflation is taking off but uh remember

20:30

she's not a big fan of believing that

20:32

inflation is going to happen but she's

20:33

also a crypto fan i did run a poll about

20:36

this before kathy posted a video

20:39

i ran a poll and i asked on twitter are

20:41

you investing in crypto primarily reason

20:43

number one because of inflation and look

20:46

at this out of 4 000 votes i was

20:48

surprised 48 of you said yes and i said

20:51

if cpi misses on september 14th will

20:53

crypto fall 32.4 of you or a third of

20:56

you actually said yes on that

20:58

kathy then talks about the benefits of

21:00

dna sequencing sequencing cost declines

21:03

uh benefiting dealing with disease cost

21:06

of ai is coming down and the convergence

21:08

of these is going to help us a lot with

21:09

health care good for companies like

21:11

vertex crispr she says oil prices going

21:14

up helps evs

21:15

kathy's been talking about oil prices

21:17

coming down but obviously we've seen a

21:19

lot of volatility in oil prices

21:22

so uh you know sometimes we revise with

21:24

the market a little bit but uh yeah hey

21:26

look that gives us a thorough overview

21:28

and if you like my perspective always

21:30

consider checking out the programs

21:31

linked down below on building your

21:33

wealth really appreciate you being here

21:34

and folks we'll see in the next one

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