Breaking Point: The Science of Stress Explained - September 17, 2025
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Hello everyone. Welcome to today's
master class in health sciences. The
breaking point, the science of stress
explained. The goal of ASU master
classes to connect students from our
alliance partner universities around the
world to researchers and professors from
Arizona State University so you can
learn from them no matter where you are.
A sincere thank you to Santana Education
for their sponsorship of these lectures
and to university at Adatana de
Guadalajara for providing Spanish
translation. In today's master class, we
will introduce information on the mental
and physical aspects of stress along
with the long-term effects that
prolonged stress can have on our body.
Our presenter Kristen Hoffner will speak
for about 30 minutes and then we'll have
time for questions. Please use the Q&A
box to submit your questions. This
lecture is being recorded and will be
available to your professors later.
Remember, if you want to hear this
webinar in Spanish, just click the globe
icon below. Now, let's welcome Professor
Hoffner, who is the director of faculty
success and teaching professor of the
College of Health Solutions. Thanks
again for joining us today, Professor.
The rest of the time is yours.
>> Great. Thank you so much.
All right, thank you everybody for being
here. I'm so excited to present to you
today on the science of stress.
So nice to meet you all. Um, as was
stated, my name is Kristen Hoffner. I'm
a teaching professor in the chinesiology
program. I've been at ASU for 22 years
now, and most recently, I have had a
title change. I am the assistant dean of
career track faculty success leading
some of my faculty members. My
background is in sport exercise and
health psychology. And then just a few
things about me. You all can read them
here but I'm a big sports fan. Um we
talk about sports all the time, sports
and exercise. So, I'm really excited to
share a little bit about stress,
physical and mental aspects, and also
the kind of toll it takes on our health
over time with you today.
So, here's our agenda. We will define
stress. Many of you have probably heard
about stress, but maybe you didn't know
that there are forms of both positive or
beneficial stress and negative stress.
We will talk about the general
adaptation syndrome which you may not
have heard of but it is a theory on how
our body responds to and resists stress
over time.
Of course with a lot of stress
resistance comes some health impacts. So
we will look at some of the impacts that
stress has on our overall physical and
mental health. And then we'll move into
some techniques for stress relief,
changed perspectives,
appraisal styles, challenge and threat,
reframing stress from being a bad thing
to maybe a more beneficial thing in our
lives, and then some additional
strategies such as exercise and social
support to end the conversation.
Please put questions in the um Q&A box
so we can address some of your questions
at the end.
So what is stress? You can see here that
it ultimately is a response that occurs
in the body when our demands outweigh
our resources. So this can be very
literal. Exercise is a form of stress.
So if we are in homeostasis or all of
our systems, physiological systems are
at rest and we start to run outside or
on a treadmill that is putting a demand
on our body. So because of this, our
resources must be there to meet those
demands. So our stress response, which
we will look at in a little bit more
depth on the next slide, is activated.
A more perceived form of stress might be
hearing a crash in the next room in your
house or your apartment and you get
nervous. You don't know what it is. That
is perceived threat and our body still
activates ready to what we would call
fight or flee. Maybe you've heard of the
fightor-flight response. So, even though
we're just thinking about a stressor,
our body is still active and prepared
to um take it on or to tackle that
stress. Perceived stress could also be
watching a scary movie. Maybe you've
watched a scary movie and even though
the threat is not real, it's perceived
in your mind and therefore your body is
activated. So all of these perceived and
real stressors
result in that stress response.
So what does the physiological stress
response look like? And there's that
term again, fight or flight. Our body is
physiologically activated to either
fight the beast in front of us or flee
from it. Sometimes you may have heard
fawn or freeze as a part of the stress
response as well. We won't talk about
that much today, but sometimes when
people feel stressed, they freeze and
can't do anything or they become a
people pleaser and they want to do
anything that the other person says. So,
what's going on during this
physiological stress response? Maybe
you've exercised before. Maybe you felt
stressed from watching a movie. Maybe
you felt stressed from a physical
performance or a sport performance.
Maybe you felt stress um when you think
that your opponent is better than you.
This is what's going on. We have an
increased heart rate and breathing rate.
Your body must speed up its
physiological
um resources to meet those demands.
Redirected blood flow. Maybe you felt
that your toes or your fingers get numb
when you're experiencing a stress or
anxious response. That's because the
fingers don't need blood any longer. I
have watched some athletes perform. You
know, I'm a big basketball fan and
before they go to shoot free throws,
they might be doing this with their
hands to try to loosen them up. That's
because if they're having any sort of
stress response or even the stress from
running and sprinting throughout a game
can redirect the blood flow to the major
muscle groups that need it. We have
muscle tension. We have slowed
digestion.
This might be why when you experience a
stress response, you feel kind of sick
or you don't want to eat or you have to
use the bathroom all the time. This is
an adaptation to prepare the body to be
ready to fight or flee. These things all
occur. Again, whether the stress is real
or perceived and over time they can take
a physical toll on the body. Increased
blood pressure is another one of these.
you know, we've got to pump that blood
to the major organs and the major muscle
groups that need it to get us ready to
go.
So, this is another look graphically at
the stress response and what goes on in
our body when we experience that
physiological stress response over time.
So, if we look at the alarm stage, this
is what happens when we experience that
initial response to a stressor. So fight
or flight is active. I think about this.
If you
are driving a car and an animal darts
out in front of it and you have to slam
on the brakes and you're able to stop
and you don't hit the animal, but oh my
gosh, your heart's pounding, right? And
you kind of have to take some breaths to
slow everything down. Fight or flight is
active. Your physiological system spike.
Your body is not worried about resisting
the stress. It's taking that stress on
and then our systems relax. We calm
ourselves down. So if we look at this
blue line, right, where it dips a little
bit, this has to do with our stress
resistance. Our body can handle that
stress. We don't resist it, right? We're
not resisting the stress. We spike and
we lower our response.
if we are in a state of prolonged
stress. So now we're talking some of
that distress that just takes over.
Maybe we're a full-time student and
we're working a job and we've got a
family and we have other
responsibilities at home and we're
constantly feeling stress and pressure.
Well, now our body is wired to resist
that stress. So during the resistance
phase, our body is working on overdrive.
It is actually telling itself that that
new level of hormonal and
neurotransmitter response, that fight or
flight that's happening inside of the
body, that's our normal. So everything
is heightened. Everything is on
overdrive just to respond and keep
ourselves feeling normal. Even though
our body physiologically is on
overdrive,
we can only handle that physically for a
matter of time. Now for some this might
be weeks. For some this might be months
but eventually our body can no longer
resist the stress
right over time and we hit what's called
the exhaustion phase. We see this happen
not only to people that are chronically
stressed out because of things happening
in their lives but also overtrained
athletes. Remember, exercise and
physical activity is a stressor on the
body. And if we don't allow ourselves
time to recover appropriately, rest and
relax, we will hit a stage of
exhaustion. Sometimes this means
burnout.
Often times this means getting sick.
Right? So if you're a student and you've
had to study, study, study, and you have
your final exams and then maybe you have
a break, whether it's summer break or
winter break. Sometimes because you've
pushed through for an entire semester
and not really allowed yourself to rest
and recover, you spend that break time
sick and in bed cuz your body says, "No,
enough is enough, right? You need to lay
down. You need to rest and relax." And
so it puts you into this exhaustion
phase to protect itself.
Just so that we're all aware, we often
approach stress and this has been
mentioned from a biocschosocial
perspective.
So biologically is the physiological
response that we've talked about that
fight or flight. Some people are much
more physically apt to handle stress
than others. Psychological biocsycho
approach is how your mind responds to
stress and some of the thoughts that go
on. And we're going to talk about how to
help this with our appraisal changing
and reframing section. And then of
course social, we can't ignore social is
how our environment, the things
happening around us impact our stress.
And it is very important kind of
skipping ahead to some stress relieving
strategies to set boundaries
and to kind of make decisions for
yourself how much you're going to let
those environmental stimuli in. things
like social media,
things like watching television and
watching the news. You know, sometimes
they're pumping a lot of stressful
things
into you, right? They're telling you to
be scared and to live in fear for all
the things that are going on in the
world. And so those social
relationships, those environmental
stimuli, those can really impact our
stress levels. And it is important to
kind of say no to some of those
environmental stressors when we can.
All right, the fun stuff, but also kind
of sad stuff. You know, if we're not
allowing ourselves to come down from
times of stress, times to recover, you
know, we can uh really experience some
negative health outcomes. So, how does
stress impact health? You see these
boxes here? You know, we'll go through
them pretty quickly. The first one is
poor mental health. Chronic stress is
linked to depression, anxiety, and
burnout. Like mentioned, we can only
resist stress for so long. Eventually,
we hit that exhaustion phase which which
is related to lowered immune system
function, an increase in illness along
with poor mental health and burnout. You
can see cardiovascular disease here.
stress, just constant stress, that body
on overdrive, that physiological
consistent fight or flight is linked to
things like hypertension, heart disease,
and stroke.
Exercise and being a fit individual can
help to offset some of these things.
However, being in a state of constant
stress can um really increase your risk
of different forms of cardiovascular
disease. You see, immune system
dysfunction. And I did just uh refer to
this. Stress impairs immune responses,
increasing susceptibility to infections
and slowing recovery time from acute
illnesses.
Other physiological effects might
include things like GI or
gastrointestinal stomach problems,
things like ulcers, um indigestion. We
talked about how in a consistent state
of fight or flight, your digestion can
slow. So that might be another
physiological effect that is felt if you
are consistently stressed. Pain,
headaches, sleep disturbances,
all of these have a greater toll on the
body and are also aligned with poor
mental health as well.
Unhealthy behaviors. So people who live
in states of chronic stress or who
experiences experience a lot of stress,
they may engage in other behaviors that
are not healthy to the body. They might
increase their use of substances, things
like alcohol and cigarettes and other
drugs. They might um eat more poorly,
right? They might not sleep. We already
talked about how stress can impact sleep
disturbances. So, sleep behaviors might
be changed. Maybe they socially withdraw
and maybe they limit their exercise. So
people that are very stressed may
actually indirectly affect their health
through other health behaviors. And then
we have this box of social withdrawal
here. Um we can't ignore that people who
are consistently stressed sometimes, not
everybody, but sometimes they withdraw
from their social networks, their
family, their friends, they just want to
be alone. They say no to a lot of
things. This can be incredibly
problematic because one of the um
biggest resources for handling stress is
actually reaching out to friends and
family. So, it's kind of this issue
where you need them, but because you're
stressed, you withdraw. And it is
something to recognize if you're
experiencing those sorts of feelings.
So, what do we do? I'm telling you all
of these things that really indicate
that stress is bad, but everyone's going
to experience stress. So, what if we
shifted our viewpoint? We can understand
and be aware of the negatives that
stress um can present to us and the
negative health effects it can have, but
we're all going to experience it. So,
how can we shift our mindset to actually
protect the body?
Well, first we should understand that
not all stress is bad. Distress is the
term for the stress that usually is
related to kind of those negative
feelings. The stress that we think about
when we think of the word
ustress on the other hand is actually
bene beneficial stress and activation.
So if you look at this inverted U
graphic below the stress continuum, you
see in the green the stress that's kind
of activating us,
right? Good stress. Maybe you're
somebody who actually gets more done the
more they have to do. I'm one of those
people. Maybe you're an athlete and you
really need a lot of intensity and
activation to get to your optimal level
of performance. All of these things are
indicators of ustress.
Maybe excitement and good things
activate your fight or flight. That's
ust stress, right? So you see here that
good forms of stress can actually
increase our healthy levels of tension.
It can make us motivated and more
focused. However, that only goes for so
for so long, right? Too much can then
bring us over into the distress area
where our performance starts to suffer.
If we can start to view a lot of our
stress as being activating
instead of scary, it can really do a lot
for our physiological stress response.
That brings us to this idea of appraisal
styles and reframing. If we can shift
our way of thinking about stress, it can
really do a lot for us. So, the first
thing I'm going to address is appraisal
style. You can see up here in the first
green box that there are two main styles
that we talk about today. The first one
is challenge appraisal and the second
one is threat appraisal. So because I'm
a sports psychologist I talk about this
a lot when it comes to competing.
Two athletes going out I'm was a
basketball player so going out to the
basketball court that always comes
easily to me in terms of stories and
explanations.
One athlete looks at the other team and
says, "Oh my gosh, I'm not ready for
this. Look at how big they are. Look at
how strong they are. We aren't prepared.
I feel threatened."
Think about what that does to your
physiological stress response and what
that might do to performance, which
usually means it's going to go down,
right? That is a threat appraisal. The
other athlete looks at the same team,
the same opponent, and says,"Oh my gosh,
sure, they're big and strong, but I
can't wait to take on this challenge.
I'm so excited to test my skills against
this other team. I'm ready for this."
Two athletes, two different appraisal
styles. Think about what athlete number
two with the challenge appraisal style,
seeing that same situation as a
challenge rather than a threat. what
that does for their level of
physiological stress response, their
fight orflight. They're actually getting
activated in a way that's bringing them
up to their peak performance level. It's
you stress. It's let's go. This is
exciting.
Let's talk about reframing feelings. We
all feel the same way when we're in
fight or flight. Maybe you've been asked
to public speak. Not everybody likes
public speaking. And you stand up in
front of a group and your heart starts
to pound.
And then your mind starts to spiral
because oh my gosh, you have a pounding
heart. That means you're not ready for
this. Well, that's one way to appraise
that or to think about that same
physiological sensation. Or we could
say, "My beating heart means I'm
energized. This is good. This means I'm
alive. I'm prepared to meet the
challenge in front of me."
I talk about this with athletes all the
time. your muscle tension, your
breathing rate, your heart. That is your
body getting ready to challenge, to
battle, to compete. These are good
symptoms.
I ask you to think about yourself and
think about if you like to perform
with butterflies in your stomach. If you
know that feeling, right, that's fight
or flight. I love that feeling. Some
people get nervous from that feeling or
it's because of nerves. I'm telling
myself, "Wow, when I feel that feeling,
that means I'm ready. My body's active."
This is just a perspective shift. It
takes practice. You have to repeat these
things to yourself all the time in order
to truly believe it. But starting to
view those symptoms as being activating
and good. And starting to view stressful
situations as being just bring it on,
it's just another challenge. lets go can
really do a lot for your physiological
stress response. So, a few slides back
when we looked at the general adaptation
syndrome, it actually allows you to stay
down at that more baseline level. Your
body does not activate as much. You
don't have to resist as much because
you're not perceiving it as highly
stressful.
Okay. our thought processes, our
reframing, our appraisal changing.
That's really tool number one. But what
else can we do to help manage our
stress? Two big categories.
Unfortunately, today I'm not necessarily
going to talk about things like deep
breathing and meditation. Although these
are all great techniques, we are going
to talk about exercise and social
support. And then we're also going to
take a little bit of time to talk about
how useful exercise is in buffering
other instances of stress. It's called
cross stressor tolerance. It's tough to
say. Crossstressor tolerance.
I have a whole course on this that I
teach to my undergraduate students. The
use of exercise for stress and mental
health. So this is just a few slides,
right? I talk about this stuff for a
full semester. But exercise has a very
strong evidence base to support its use
as a stress reliever. And not only a
stress reliever, but fit people, people
with high levels of fitness can actually
handle stress better in the world.
That's our crossstressor tolerance. So
the question becomes why? And on this
slide, I'm showing you a couple
categories of the why. The first
category is physiological mechanisms.
And I've got to say, we research this a
lot because if we want to recommend or
prescribe exercise for mental health
conditions such as depression and
anxiety
alongside medication and alongside
psychotherapy, we've got to show that it
physiologically works like a medication
for some of these mental illnesses. So,
what does exercise do? It helps with
hormonal regulation. So, it actually
regulates the stress hormone cortisol.
which relates to that HPA axis
regulation bullet point number two and
it increases our endorphins which really
ultimately are feel-good chemicals.
So hormonal regulation when we exercise
these things are stimulated and
regulated to help our physiological
stress response regulate HPA axis
regulation or modulation. The HPA
accesses the physiological sympto sorry
system that's involved in our physical
stress response.
Regular and acute exercise can improve
regulation which helps to lower our
physical stress re reactivity.
Neurotransmitter release. When we
exercise things like serotonin and
dopamine are elicited into the brain and
bloodstream. These are stress relieving
hormones. They also help with mood
change. We see reduced inflammation
which can help with our immune system
function. Remember stress suppresses our
immune system function. Exercise can
help improve it and also brain
adaptation which is great for all sorts
of mood um aspects and cognitive
function. So when we exercise we
increase our neuroplasticity.
We increase our uh creation neurogenesis
of new brain cells.
um and it may restore healthy brain
function in regions involved in stress
and emotion regulation.
So physiologically exercise is doing
great things for us and internally it is
really helping combat some of the
negatives of the stress response.
Psychological mechanism. So a little bit
different. This is where a reframing and
appraisal changing comes in. Exercise
can serve as a distraction. It can help
us feel more confident. It can help us
feel more resilient because we've been
able to push through in an exercise
setting. We can push through in other
settings. It may increase or improve our
social support. We talked about mood
changes. It improves our view of
perceived behavioral control, which can
help us feel more control of our lives
and schedules. And for some, simply
exercising can help us. Um,
well, simply exercising, if we believe
it's going to help our stress, it can.
That's an expectancy effect.
It's like a placebo effect.
So, what types of things should I do?
What types of things will help me when
I'm exercising?
Um the biggest things that we see that
are the most beneficial is aerobic
exercise which are things like running,
swimming, biking, walking, yoga and
combined aerobic and resistance training
which are things like weights. It should
be moderate to vigorous activity. And
then the most important thing and we see
this for any aspect of exercise and mood
regulation, depression, anxiety, stress
is that you need to be consistent. So,
you've got to find something that you
like to do. We got to do it regularly
and it can really help with that stress
response.
Here's that cross stressor tolerance
that I've been talking about. Chronic
exercise training has been shown to not
only improve the body's response to
physical stress such as exercise, but it
also enhances your ability to respond to
other stressors, stressors outside of an
exercise setting. Although this isn't an
unequivocal finding, right, we do see
that this is mixed. There's a lot of
reasons for that that I won't get into
today.
Physiological adaptations, becoming more
fit. I think we could tune into some of
the psychological adaptations like
having a better sense of control, better
self-efficacy, better self-confidence,
and also increasing resilience.
challenge appraisals, those sorts of
things that are developed and fostered
in an exercise setting can transfer to a
stress response outside of that same
setting,
to a beneficial improved stress response
outside of that same setting.
The last thing we're going to talk about
is social support. So research does show
that social support can help to what we
would say buffer the negative impacts of
stress. It doesn't take them away
entirely, but it can help lower the
physiological and mental impacts of
stress. And we'll see a graphic
depiction of this in just a moment.
When we feel support and like we have a
lot of people on our side, it actually
does shift our threat appraisal.
Research shows that we view more
opportunities that could be potentially
stressful as challenges. And I'll say
that word again, opportunities instead
of threats to our self-image or our
self-worth.
We're going to talk about the direct
effects and buffering hypothesis when we
look at this graphic representation, but
just so that we're prepared for the
slide that's coming next. The direct
effects hypothesis of social support and
stress proposes that social support
helps to lower stress. Whether that
stress is low, just a few annoyances or
high. You're dealing with a lot of
things on a lot of different levels. The
buffering hypothesis, however, says that
social support can help lower any
stress, but it's even more beneficial in
times of high stress. There isn't
necessarily one that's right or wrong,
but I urge you to think about how social
support works in your life when you
experience stress.
So this is the article from 1985 where
this was um you know looked at and they
did a review and this is what they came
up with in terms of a graphic
representation of the direct effects and
buffering hypothesis.
So the first graphic you can see graphic
A.
This is the direct effects hypothesis.
With low social support, our stress goes
from low to high. And with high social
support, it just lowers it a little bit.
Times of low stress, it's equidistant
from how much it helps in times of high
stress. It does lower our stress,
but equally regardless of how much
stress you're experiencing.
This is one graphic representation in
graph B of the buffering hypothesis. So
in low stress it doesn't really make an
impact, but in high stress, high social
support makes an impact. And oh my gosh,
in version C,
high social support helps demonstrabably
more in times of high stress versus low
stress. It actually makes you feel like
you're experiencing low stress, even if
it's a time of extremely high stress.
So the big takeaway from this is that
social support can be very important and
helpful. You know, reach out, don't
withdraw, reach out in times of stress.
So to summarize, this is kind of our
summary slide tying this all together.
Just little reminders of what we've
covered today. Stress can come from
physical, mental, and environmental
sources. So be aware of some of your
stressors, some of your triggers so that
we can mentally prepare if and when we
encounter those. The physiological
stress response can negatively impact
our health if it is prolonged.
Everyone's going to experience stress.
How can we take breaks from it? How can
we allow ourselves times to relax and
recover?
One way that we can impact these effects
is through shifting our appraisal style
and reframing our stress and what it
means. not only viewing ourselves as
powerful and being able to take on a lot
of stress, but also reframing what those
physiological symptoms mean. A beating
heart means that we're activated and
ready.
And exercise and connecting with friends
and family can really be important in
not only buffering stress, but also
helping us handle stress in the future.
Exercise and social support can not only
buffer our stress but shift our
appraisal style, help us be more
prepared to reframe when we encounter
stress in the future.
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Thank you, Professor Hoffner, for your
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questions. We got a few questions. Um
first,
so we're looking at the connection
between tendency to be stressed and
psychology. Are there some people who
are more prone to being stressed
naturally?
>> More prone to being stressed naturally.
That's an interesting question. Um I do
think that there are a variety of things
that impact our stress response. So
dependent upon your experiences you know
in any time of your life but
particularly your youth uh maybe some of
us have gone through traumatic
experiences some of those past
experiences are now wired in our body.
So even if you approach a situation and
mentally you don't think it's going to
be stressful our subconscious connects
it to a past experience and activates
fight or flight to protect you. So when
you say predisposed based on your past
experiences, yes, some people are more
um active and activated.
Personalitywise, I don't know if you've
heard of type A or type B personality,
but type A personality by nature is just
higher, anxious, and anxiety and stress
are a little bit different, but they
have the same physiological response. So
why I always explain it as a type A
person is kind of living life at a seven
out of 10 and a type B person is kind of
living life at a three out of 10. So
yes, predisposition to kind of
experience stress and and have less
stress send them over the edge or over
that you into distress.
Yes, if you're high type A, all of this
to say, you know, you can understand
these tendencies. Awareness is key and
you can work on some of these
tendencies. Some traumatic um brain
responses really do need to be handled
with a professional, with a clinician,
uh with a psychotherapist, potentially
with medication. Um even type A high
anxious personality can be handled with
a with a clinician, right? Whether
that's medical or psychotherapy,
but you can definitely reframe and
retrain your thoughts to help manage
high type A personality and high
anxiety.
Did that cover some of it?
>> Excellent. No, that was great. Uh, this
actually leads into another question.
Um, can too much stress turn into
distress? Uh, and where is the line
between those two?
>> Yeah, that's a great question between
distress and you stress. I mean, a lot
of it is perspective.
Um,
a lot of it is perspective. So, there
isn't a black and white line because it
depends on how the individual handled
it. So, I can just give examples in my
own life. Granted, I talk about these
things every day and I've been
practicing self-t talk and appraisal
changing and reframing for 25 years of
my life. But we over this past year in
my family have gone through
quite a few very large stressful life
experiences. And when I talk to people
about them and can still do my job and
you know I I would say handle them
fairly well even though I do experience
stress that is because I practice all of
these skills all the time. And I've had
friends tell me, "Oh my gosh, I couldn't
imagine or I can't believe what you go
through or or how you've handled this."
And you know, ultimately it's my
perspective. I really do see it as a
bring it on, you know, like let's handle
more. We can do it. So, um, I don't know
the line. It does depend on you as an
individual, but I want to make sure that
you as an individual start to kind of
figure out what your breaking point is
and take a break. So, I get told quite
often from my bosses, I'm going to have
a great support system at work. They're
telling me, you know, let us know if you
need a day off or let us know how we can
help you. And I tell them, I will,
right? I I will. I'll listen to myself,
but, you know, not yet. So, that's
that's kind of the nice thing about
social support, but also really knowing
your own tendencies. And if I was
overdoing it or feeling like I was going
to burn out, I would take their advice
and take some time for myself. And I did
see a few things in the Q&A um of people
mentioning their high levels of stress.
And you know, all I can say is you have
to know yourself and what you can handle
and when you do need to set a boundary
or take a break. I've known students
that have taken a break from school
because they've hit that breaking point.
I've known students that have just
reorganized or rep prioritized things,
shifted their mindset about things,
taken things in smaller chunks, set
different goals. So there isn't a
one-sizefits-all. It does depend on the
individual.
>> Excellent. Thank you for that. U maybe
looking at a more specific example of
stress or an outcome of stress um
looking at hyperventilation. Is there a
best way that you've read about or know
about um to calm and solve
hyperventilation?
>> Yes. Um, as I said during the talk, I
didn't really get into other sorts of
relaxation techniques, but breathing
for my athletes, for people that are
physically performing, for people who
are experiencing physiological aspects
of the stress response is number one
because not only is it going to help
calm the mind, you can focus on your
breathing, you can count with your
breathing, it starts to calm the body as
well. So hyperventilation,
you know, usually that's too much
breathing, right? You're overdoing it.
Um, when it comes to hyperventilation
specifically, I often work with people
on some grounding techniques. So, we'll
maybe look each other in the eyes. So,
I'll have them focus on me. We'll talk
about things in the room. We'll say, "Do
you see the floor?" You know, "Look at
the the brown floor. Do you see the
walls? Do you see that picture on the
wall?" And we really try to center them
in some of those situations. You know,
I've had athletes hyperventilate when
they're performing and in an athletic
performance. So, we try to get them
focused, breathe in through the nose,
out through the mouth, do some counting,
do some mental distraction techniques to
start to calm the body.
I don't know that that's going to work
every time, but those are probably my
go-tos in those situations.
>> Excellent. Thank you for that. Mhm.
>> Another question. Um,
so looking at external factors related
to bringing on stress. Uh, we have a
question about relating it to parents.
Maybe parents are stressful or family
members make things stressful. Um, h how
do you kind of negate that stress um
when it's such a personal relationship?
>> Absolutely. And that's really
challenging. Um, my biggest
recommendation there,
it's cliche, is control the
controllables.
So, unfortunately, so much of our stress
comes from outside sources, um, coaches,
parents, teachers, and ultimately the
only thing we can control is ourselves.
So, maybe it's your routines on okay,
you know, I I know that my parents are
asking for this or I know that my
coaches are asking for this. How am I
going to make this manageable for me?
Right? I know that my boss is asking for
this. So, routines are one of our most
controllable things, you know,
controlling our schedule, managing our
time, controlling our self-t talk,
things that we say to ourselves, you
know, and I'm going to kind of take this
aside, but one of the things that I
think connects these pieces is emotional
management.
So, I tell my students and and
colleagues and people I work with all
the time that we need to be really
selfish when it comes to our emotional
energy. And we have to be really selfish
about who we give it to. You know, I
mentioned earlier about social media and
the news. You know, no, they don't get
my energy today. I don't have enough for
them, right? I'm not going to sit and
look at social media or give maybe my
parents, even though it's a close
personal relationship, that energy
today. They can say what they need to
say to me and then I'm going to protect
my energy and go and channel it in ways
that are more productive. This is a
practice
wrapped up in it. When you did this,
right, you made me feel, you made me
feel this way, you said this, you made
me feel this way, you made me get angry,
you made me get stressed. Just a little
shift.
You said that not you about that today.
I'm not saying that affect you but
manage it right protect your energy
hopefully. Um thank you is another
question we have um difference in
traditional stress and post-traumatic
stress um and how can different
strategies be applied for both of those.
>> I mean yes yes is a short answer. So if
you're going to say traditional stress
right life annoyances things that fill
up
um you know sudden changes some people
you know don't do well with change. So
all of a sudden you have a change in
schedule or something gets dropped on
your plate that you weren't expecting.
You know those I would say would fit
under that guise of traditional stress
or category of traditional stress. you
know then there's major life stressors
um diagnosis you know medical stress or
you know tragedy or loss I mean these
are major life stressors that still
might fit under the umbrella of
traditional I guess if we're from
but it's going to be a little bit
different and there are some different
strategies to be on how it's impacting
you and then we have post-traumatic
stress which PTSD is a disorder So,
post-traumatic stress disorder and
[snorts] something I mentioned earlier
in terms of people that are predisposed
to have more reactivity or more of a
stress response, a lot of that is rooted
in PTSD.
So, if maybe you've noticed that in
yourself, all someone has to say is this
one little thing and and it just
skyrockets your physiological symptoms,
it's because somewhere that's that's
rooted in in bad. Your body says, "Nope,
that's a threat. This was bad before.
it's going to be bad again and that PTSD
is hardwired. So for PTSD, in order to
truly solve it, usually you need some
sort of clinical intervention, right? So
finding someone that you trust, working
through some of those past things that
have happened to really start to rewire.
You have to rewire your brain and your
and your stress response system. Um, so
I'd say that would be the biggest
difference. You know, with traditional
stressors generally, you can kind of
handle those with some of the strategies
that we talked about. But with PTSD,
it's working through kind of some
hardwired stress response that's related
to trauma.
>> We have a lot of questions um about,
you know, there's super stressed out
uh and they see these strategies such as
exercise
um but they feel like they don't have
the time for it. Do you have uh any
suggestions for them?
You know, that's a great one. Um, one
thing I tell both myself and others is
that, well, one, exercise is just
healthy for you in general. And when I
say exercise, I mean movement. So, this
could be just taking a quick walk. This
could be listening to things that you're
studying, maybe in headphones while
you're just walking. This does not have
to be like an hour of intense training
in a gym. So, so movement versus
exercise, right? So, just moving is good
for our bodies. We should be doing that
regardless time or not.
When I talk to people about fitting
exercise into their schedule, because I
talk a lot about motivation for
exercise.
Sometimes exercise is adding to the
stress. It's doing a disservice. And for
myself, if I'm experiencing some of
those times, I cut the exercise out. I
still try to move. Maybe I try to take
the stairs instead of the elevator on a
certain day or walk to class and do an
extra block. Right? We're not talking
major exercise programming, but if
fitting in exercise is actually making
me more stressed, I take breaks. So,
that's kind of suggestion number one.
Um,
number two is really looking at your
kind of your time management and what
you can cut and what you can change. And
there are kind of seasons where exercise
might not be fitting in, but how can we
reframe what it means to exercise? So,
just kind of going back to what I said,
this does not have to be intense
programming. This could just be a few
push-ups, you know, maybe just some
strength training that's easy that you
can do first thing in the morning or
maybe walking instead of driving
somewhere. Um, and maybe [clears throat]
that can help.
>> But I get it.
>> It's
another question. Um, how do you how do
you handle work pressure and stress past
workload?
>> Yeah, that's a great question. I've
become a very good delegator, but I
don't know if that fits everyone's
scenario. Um,
I've had to do a few things. One is make
sure I'm really managing my time
effectively, including rest time. So,
it's allowing myself to rest. It doesn't
mean that everything's going to get done
in exactly the same timeline that
everybody wants. Which segus me into
number two. Depending on what I have
going on, some things take precedence
and priority and some things get bumped.
So with a very large workload, I often
think of myself as just putting out
fires like what's due tonight, what's
due tomorrow. Those things take
priority. Other things get pushed off. I
have to talk to people. I'm an
overcommunicator. So hey, this is what's
happening in my life. This has to get
bumped. Is that okay? And you'll find
that nine times out of 10, people will
work with you. So, I used to get really
panicked about not getting things done
to someone else's schedule and timeline.
And then I just kind of let it go and
would just ask for extensions or ask for
help. Now, you have to use that wisely.
I'm not someone that's asking for an
extension once a week in every area of
my job demands. But, you know, when it
comes down to it, I'm I'm I'm an
overcommunicator and I do reach out for
help. I see if people can take things
off of my plate. I try to work with
groups whenever I can and maybe that can
help to um eliminate some of the
pressure on just me and then I just have
had to let it go and say, you know what,
everything's not always going to get
done by that deadline and it's okay if
it's a couple days late.
>> Thank you. How can we differentiate
between a healthy level of stress that
motivates us and stress that becomes
harmful?
Again, I think that that is up to the
individual.
And I also think it's up to kind of how
you're feeling.
Um,
you know, a healthy level of stress
that's going to be motivating is is very
individualized and it depends on how
your body and your mind is handling it.
And then one it gets once it gets into
the kind of that I I always think of my
life in use but kind of over that hump
and you're starting to spiral you have
to notice it and you have to change
something. So again there isn't an exact
answer
but maybe it's checking in with yourself
and hey can I think about this a little
bit differently rather than thinking
about this as oh my gosh this is the
worst. Can I just say this is this is a
part of it. You know I'm in the thick of
it. I'm in I'm a student right now. I
tell myself that all the time. This is
just the season, right? Like in my job,
March, March is a really rough month.
And I just go into it saying, you know
what? This is the season. It's going to
be stressful. I'm going to have to maybe
cut some other things. But it just is
what it is.
And then when I find myself maybe
experiencing it a little bit too much,
maybe I reschedule a meeting, maybe I
cancel something, maybe I don't do that
again social event. As long as you're
not fully withdrawing from all of your
social companions. Um, it's a it's a rep
prioritization based on how you are
feeling. But otherwise, I don't I don't
know. You gota you have to know that for
yourself. Tune in. Check in with
yourself. I make my students journal. I
make my students write it down. And you
know, even if you're not aware of what's
going on, if you start to write about
it, sometimes it's like, "Oh my gosh,
I've been really hard on myself lately."
Or, "Oh my gosh, my heart's just
pounding out of my chest all the time. I
didn't realize that was attached to just
doing too much at once." I mean, check
in with yourself. You got to know your
symptoms and your tendencies.
>> Excellent.
Another question we have from Garve is,
"Does psychology play an important role
in shaping our indiv individuality or
future?"
>> Yes, psychology plays an important role
in pretty much everything we do. Um, and
I say psychology in terms of mindset.
Yes, it's all individualized in case you
haven't gotten that from this talk yet.
Right. Every person's different. You
have to know yourself and your own
tendencies. How does it shape your
future? I mean, your outlook
shapes everything from your level of
motivation, your level of discipline,
um your stress response, right? How how
how reactive your body is. If you view
everything as a threat and as a negative
and as more of a pessimistic outlook,
your body's active, right? Your body
doesn't know the difference between a
real and perceived threat. So, if you've
decided that this new class that you're
taking is going to be the worst ever, or
you just got this new job and oh my
gosh, it's going to be awful. You just
know it. Your body responds to that. If
you take that same situation and say,
"Oh my gosh, I'm so thankful this for
this opportunity and I might not know
anything yet, but I will know
something." Your body starts to release
that stress. It's very individualized
and very much impacts your future and
also the things you take on and say yes
to, right? If we're too stressed and
maybe psychologically really hard on
ourselves, we may say no to more things.
We may be scared to take new
opportunities and take risks. And if you
can shift your psyche to say, you know
what, mistakes are okay. I don't need to
be a perfectionist. Everything's going
to work out. Can I add one thing? What
time is it? There's a part in the brain
called the reticular activating system.
reticular activating system
that when we set a goal, when we kind of
rest in a viewpoint or a value, that
part of the brain filters our world to
confirm that goal or that value. Let me
give you an example. If we decide that
we're going to have a good day, it's
going to be a good day today. We wake up
in the morning, it's going to be a good
day. that turns on the RA
and we will take in cues in our
environment that confirm that today is a
good day because guess what? You're
never wrong. Your brain does that for
you. So, I'm going to see that that
person on the street let me in rather
than the person that cut me off. I'm
going to see that the person at the
coffee shop smiled at me and said hello
rather than the person that slammed the
door in my face and then I had to go get
the door. If we decide it's a good day,
the brain shows us cues that make that
our reality. Think about that on the
other side. If we decide it's going to
be a bad day, if we decide this job is
going to be really too hard for us, if
we decide this class is going to be
awful and too hard, our brain says,
"Okay, you're going to be right." And
our brain will filter the world to show
us cues that support that we're not
ready for this, that we're not smart
enough, that we're not prepared, because
that's what we keep telling ourselves.
Oo, it's deep. It works. I'm telling
you, turn the turn the RA on in a
positive and beneficial way. We can't
take in everything around us all the
time. I'll give you one quick example.
Think about simple stuff like a car.
Long, long time ago, I bought a car. It
was used. It was a blue Honda Civic. I
thought it was so special. I didn't
think anyone else had it in the world.
And then I drove it off the lot and I
noticed that every single human being
where I live in Phoenix, Arizona, had
the car. I saw it everywhere. I saw it
there. I saw it there. I saw it there. I
had no idea. My mind was blown. I was
like, "Where did this car come from?"
It's because the day before I didn't
value it. My reticular activating system
was not turned on to that car. And then
the day after I thought it was great. It
was something I valued and all of a
sudden I saw it everywhere. My brain did
that for me automatically. That's how it
works in your life as well.
>> Excellent. Thank you for that example.
We appreciate it. Another question. Uh,
and we're getting close to time, so
we'll probably only be able to answer
one or two more. Um, this person
mentions they have lived in a fight
orflight survival mode for a long time.
Um, what is your advice for getting out
of it and not letting it run your life?
Yeah, you know, again, I'll just say
that there are seasons and we can't ever
talk about these perspectives and talk
about these topics without also really
recognizing that there are times of life
where people are in survival mode, and
I've had plenty of them. Um, I will just
go back to starting to shift
perspective.
Some of that fight or flight as a part
of survival mode is for survival. your
body's active because you have to get
through all of the things that you're
getting through. But I urge you, you
know, when can you rest or recover?
Maybe that's open to perspective as
well. I used to count my rest and
recovery time during a commute. And if
you don't know what a commute, that was
like driving. I was a basketball coach
and it would take me about an hour to
get to practice and back, meaning an
hour each way every day. I hated it. I
was in traffic. I was angry. I was mad.
I was annoyed. And then one day I said,
"You know what? This hour each way is
going to be my my me time. It's going to
be my relax time." And I would listen to
music. And I had to turn that time into
my time to relax. Whereas the week
before it was my time to be active and
be angry and have my heart pounding and
be in a state of fight or flight. It
wasn't fun in reality, but I had to tell
myself it was my time so that I could
kind of trick myself and my body into
thinking that that was my my me time, my
relaxation time. So, I urge you to find
those moments, whether they're 20
minutes when you can just sit and
decompress. Um, whether it's shifting
the different things that you have to do
into an I get to do. I do that a lot. I
get to do this stuff. I get to go to
work. I get to work with students. Still
a lot of work, but it's a it's a shift
in mindset. I I just I want to
appreciate that everyone's life is
different and survival mode is real, but
wow, if if we can find those little
moments to be able to tune out, relax,
and shift our thinking about all of
those have to, it may be helpful.
>> And then last question, uh so you
mentioned stress on sports. Are you
aware of any current method to track uh
stress for athletes whether that's
professional or more intramural?
>> Um I mean there are methods to track
stress. There's also methods a lot of
when we talk about ustress and distress
and that inverted you relationship. We
actually call it intensity management or
arousal management in the sport
literature. But what we're looking at is
an optimal zone physically like my heart
rate, my breathing rate, my muscle
tension to get me to my peak
performance. And every sport is
different too and every person is
different, right? But where should I be
to get to my peak performance and what
is too much? So, while we can track
stress through questionnaires and
through some of those physiological
symptom markers, what we're really
curious about with a sport setting is,
okay, how activated do we need to be for
that person to have their peak
performance? And I'll just add,
everyone's different. When I played
basketball, I wanted to be at like an
eight out of 10, meaning physiologically
amped up. I would get beat up before
every game. I would get in this little
huddle and all my teammates would pummel
me. It's a little bit weird. had to do
with personality and activation needs to
perform and play. Whereas my teammate,
my point guard, would sit with
headphones in rocking by herself,
bringing herself down in order to hit
her peak performance. So, we do monitor
some of that um depending on the level.
Triathletes do it a lot. Where does my
heart rate need to be at the end of the
bike versus the run versus the swim? And
they can manage that through what's
called BOF feedback. So, if you do want
to look into um the evidence, BOF
feedback is a good key term.
>> Well, excellent. Once again, thank you
so much, Professor Hoffner, for your
time and valuable insights. I'm going to
um switch this back to our
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