White House Insiders "FREAKING" Out AND -3.4% GDP Collapse
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Could the worst be over? We have a
little bit of color on White House
officials who are freaking out over
tariffs coming out tomorrow on
Liberation Day. But that freaking out is
actually giving us a little bit of
insight into what actually could happen
tomorrow, leaving the stock market to
maybe be a little bit happier on this.
We'll talk about that. But we'll also
talk about could the worst of these
recession worries be over now that the
first quarter is over. A lot of folks
obviously paying attention to the
Atlanta Fed real GDP numbers, which just
once again collapsed on April 1st. I
hope it's a joke, but I don't think it
is. The Atlanta Fed just updated their
model from
-2.8% to
-3.7% for first quarter GDP. Now if you
remove or adjust for gold imports the
shenanigans that that can do we for to
uh GDP models we actually find that we
have now an alternate model forecast
which adjusts for gold and it sits at
-1.4%. Which basically says that based
on the data we currently have through
the beginning of April for January,
February, March we're looking at a
negative 1.4 GDP read. Now, does that
mean with certainty we're going into a
recession? No. That's because first of
all, the April uh data that we just got
today is just the beginning of the data
that we're going to get. In fact, a lot
of the data we got this morning, like
the Jolts or construction spending data,
a lot of this information is old. Jolts
refers to February data. So, we don't
actually really even have March data
yet. And we won't have all of March data
really until closer to the end of May.
And we probably won't get real Q1 GDP
numbers until closer to June or July,
which means it's going to be quite a
while before we know if we had a
recession, at least set up in the first
quarter. Because remember, a recession
is typically two quarters of negative
GDP. But even when we had that in the
past, like in the first and second
quarter of
2022, well, the economists who decide
whether or not we're in a recession
looked and said, "Well, may have had two
quarters of negative GDP, but the
employment market was too strong, so
we're not going to say it was a
recession. We're going to change uh
revise how we define a recession." The
problem though is most economists who
study recessions look at this data and
say we weren't told we were leading into
a recession in 2007 either. In fact, we
had estimates at the end of 2007 that
growth was actually sitting somewhere
around half of a percent. The problem
was it was somewhere around 6 to 12
months later that we ended up getting
revisions so large that we pushed those
half percent positives into negatives.
And that's how in hindsight we ended up
in a recession. So even if some of these
numbers end up positive for Q1, we might
not know for six to 12 months. So this
is why looking at these data sets is
usually not the best tool for trying to
understand are we actually going into a
recession. And instead we like to look
at things like what's going on with the
labor market or what's going on in
credit spreads. And credit spreads is a
really interesting kind of complicated
place to look. The easy way to look at
this is recently there's been a tiny
little spike, but when you zoom out the
spike is pretty tiny. When you look at
credit spreads, think of this fancy
phrase as a way of saying insurance.
When insurance costs go up, either
insurance companies are more nervous
about the risk or more people are
demanding insurance, right? So, in other
words, people are asking for higher
prices on that insurance or more people
are demanding that insurance. Uh, and so
what we've seen is junk bond spreads at
least quote still remain at multi-deade
lows. Now Bloomberg argues that this is
odd and that this could actually be a
gray swan risk of recession. Now what
the hell is that? Well, like a black
swan is a reference to something we
didn't see coming. A gray swan was
something that we could look at every
single day on the chart and go, "Oh,
it's ticking up. It's ticking up." It's
basically something that we see coming,
but we're not paying attention to it or
we're not pricing in. Uh, and so
Bloomberg is making this argument that
credit spreads, if we were to be going
into a recession, should be a lot wider.
In other words, those insurance costs
should be a lot wider. And the fact that
we're not making that movement yet could
create a shock. Now, a shock is
something that's really, really bad for
an economy. And it's usually a moment
like a Lehman Brothers or a Black
Monday. It's usually some moment when
somebody spilled a bunch of gasoline
where somebody throws the cigarette in
that gasoline. That is the poopy dupy
moment. The poopy dooy moments are the
moments where all of a sudden the spread
between the 2-year Treasury yield and
the 10-year yield spread apart. See,
that's a version of a spread as well,
just like these sort of junk bot
spreads. Uh, and when you get that sort
of spread above a spread of 50 to 90,
you're usually in a recession. Today,
we're just chilling out somewhere around
0.29. Like, who cares? We're not close
to that 50 level yet. Uh, and it's
similar here to what Bloomberg is
suggesting that, hey, you know, Gray
Swan risks uh include the following.
Take a look at this. included a crash in
Nvidia shares, 10-year yields above 6%,
and a US growth shock. These are risks
pointed out by Numeura Holdings. In
other words, economic risks for everyone
would be the 10-year yield rising above
6%. Most people think it's actually
going to go down now due to a slowdown
in the economy, but this could be an
inflationary risk, like a
hyperinflationary risk. obviously some
form of growth slowdown in stocks which
we're already seeing uh but potentially
true not fully priced again the stock
market has priced in a little bit we
already seen Nvidia shares down
somewhere around 30 40% from peak but
they see even more of a potential crash
here maybe as sort of a leading
indicator for an AI bubble a lot of
people for that one by the way pay
attention to coreweave stock now because
coreweave is basically signed up or been
signed up by Nvidia as their sort of
little bailout facility uh Nvidia in
other words is going to spend up to $250
million propping that stock up every
time it drops under $40 and then they
stop. So, it's really interesting
because when you look at the price
action for the stock, go on sort of the
hour basis here. Yesterday, we fell all
the way down to 36 bucks and the volume
on the day was pretty low. You could see
the highest volume on an hour basis was
about 4 million to 2 million shares.
Beginning of the day, four, end of the
day, you were sitting around 2.4. Well,
beginning of the day today, we were
around 5.7 million shares. And then all
of a sudden out of nowhere, which is
very unusual in the middle of the day,
all of a sudden out of nowhere, 8
million shares trade and oh my gosh,
wow, look, the price goes up. A lot of
people think this is the Nvidia bailout
facility pushing it up to 40 bucks and
then traders are like, "Oh my gosh, this
one's going up." And then you pump it up
even higher, right? Uh so it's an
interesting bailout mechanism that's
happening in plain sight right now. And
it does make a lot of people wonder,
yeah, maybe we should be paying
attention to some of these risks. But
anyway, uh this this idea about tariffs
freaking out the White House is
something that's worth talking about as
well because of course, you know, there
are always people who are worried about
recession. This Q1 Atlanta Fed GDP data
is scary, but we don't have all of the
data yet. Uh and even if we had all the
data, it's always subject to change. Uh
so that instead makes people very
interested in this quote unquote
freaking out behind closed doors. You
can see that here uh in the Daily Mail.
They suggest that White House officials
are quietly freaking out uh about
Trump's upcoming liberation day. Behind
closed doors, top administration
officials are deeply concerned with many
quietly admitting they're unsure what
the president is actually going to do.
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House ally close to Trump's inner circle
told Politico, "The president has
signaled that more than $1 trillion in
trade could be affected. Keep in mind
the president's goal is to make it so
that those making under $150,000 a year
don't have to pay taxes because we're
able to raise somewhere around $600
billion in tariff revenue. Economists
report that the problem with this is
you're going to have to add a multiplier
effect and whatever you think it's going
to take to get to $600 billion in
revenue. You're going to have to add
some kind of multiple to that because
you're going to destroy demand. So it
might actually take 40% or so more
tariffs than you would otherwise think.
White House officials have spent the
past several weeks privately assuring
business leaders, financial executives,
and Republican lawmakers that a cleaner,
more stable trade policy is coming. This
would be great. This is something that a
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the alpha reports that we do. A lot of
what you find is uh you know with worse
stock pricing right before a catalyst
event because usually the catalyst event
is one that gives you clarity and
clarity is something that can be traded
and is something that could be planned
around whereas a lack of clarity is is
much more complicated to trade or plan
around and then that leads to withheld
orders which leads to depressed Atlanta
Fed GDP potentially. Uh now you know
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So, going back to this piece right here,
we see that White House officials have
spent the past several weeks privately
assuring business leaders, financial
executives, and Republican lawmakers
that a clearer, more stable trade agenda
is coming. The problem with that is
folks like uh uh right, you know, you've
got JD Vance, Susie Wilds, and uh
Treasury Secretary Bessett suggesting,
hey, we need a more targeted tariff plan
or at least some kind of structured roll
out so businesses could plan. But Donald
Trump has actually been fluctuating
between should we just have sectoral
tariffs, which would be, you know, all
pharmaceuticals or all chips, or blanket
tariffs, such as blanket tariffs on all
of the dirty 15. Here's the Wall Street
Journal's take on what the dirty 15
could be. China, EU, Mexico, Vietnam,
Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Canada,
India, Thailand, Switzerland, Malaysia,
Indonesia, Cambodia, South Africa. You
you'll notice that individual EU members
are not listed here. Just have sort of
the bulk of EU mentioned here. Uh then
uh and that's also where you'll see a
lot of the VAT taxes, the value added
taxes, which aren't really tariffs.
They're just sort of tariffs on goods.
Well, I shouldn't say tears, their
taxes. There's sales taxes on goods uh
in various different countries. Uh and
um this is normal. You go to Europe, you
see substantially higher sales taxes on
goods than the 6 to 8% were blessed with
over here. But anyway, uh we may find
sectoral tariffs on April 2nd. We may
not, said one official to political
granted a condition of anonymity due to
ongoing deliberations. In other words,
nobody really knows what's going to
happen. Now, we will find out tomorrow
at uh 400 p.m. at 400 p.m. Eastern time,
1:00 p.m. California time, Donald Trump
will be holding a uh White House presser
in the Rose Garden to announce
Liberation Day. Now, note this is the
minute the market closes. So, in other
words, we're going to go from closing
bell, and I'll live stream it. We're
going to go from closing bell to Danny T
liberating us. So, we'll see how it
goes. Anyway, earlier this week, he
quote blindsided staff with a sudden 25%
increase on auto imports, forcing the
White House to delay afternoon
programming and scrambled to formalize
the decision. So, in other words, people
feel like there's a little bit of sort
of fly by nightishness going on here
with Donald Trump where it's sort of
like, today I feel like we're going to
do this and you know what, now we're
going to do this. This is what's leading
a lot of folks to say that, you know, we
we could end up not actually getting a
lot of clarity tomorrow because you know
what? if Trump gives certain countries a
break or certain companies a break. He
said he would there wouldn't be a lot.
Then he said there would be more
exemptions and he might be kinder and
then he said he might not be that kind.
So in other words, we have absolutely no
idea what's going on, which I think is
the point for Trump. Sort of art of the
deal. Lutnik says this is going to be a
historic day for American workers. Uh
other insiders say he goes into the Oval
Office and tells the president whatever
he wants to hear. one Trump ally calling
Lutnik an effing nightmare who backs
Trump's instincts without considering
broader consequences. All right, so he's
got a Trump yesmen in Lutnik. Uh and
apparently there's this inner quote that
says if the economy tanks then fine, the
economy tanks because the president
truly believes it will rebound and
countries will give in. Others quietly
hope Trump's affection for the stock
market might steer him away from more
shock. Senators like John Kennedy and
Mitch McConnell are saying, "Basically,
all we can do right now is complain
because if we really screw this up, we
might only have two years as we get
hosed during the
midterms." Okay. Wow, that's a lot to
take in. So, I think the bottom line out
of all of this is set your calendar for
400 p.m. Eastern and 1:00 p.m.
California time tomorrow. I'll be
streaming it live. I'm excited to be
there to bring the the event. Uh well,
you know, I'll be here in in the studio.
I'll bring some sound. How about that?
We'll bring some soundboards by
tomorrow. Uh and uh yeah, we'll take it
from there. So, it's going to be very
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