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oh man Twitter just got whacked with a

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big Miss oh it's dirty folks but we

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gotta talk about something in this video

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that kind of relates to Twitter about

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how I was wrong let's get into it and I

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don't like being wrong but I'll be

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honest with you about it let's go I

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thought that we would go into 2022

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seeing a massive increase of inventory

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so that his companies would see Supply

0:23

chains loosen up we would see Freight

0:26

speed up we would see over ordering and

0:29

all of a sudden people who had already

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bought the stuff they wanted to buy

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wouldn't need to buy as much stuff

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anymore so stores would have tons of

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excess inventory and would have to cut

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prices contributing to a decline in

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inflation like what we're seeing at

0:41

Target and Walmart at the same time when

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companies have a lot of product lots and

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lots of product what I thought we would

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see is we would actually start seeing

0:53

companies advertise a lot again that's

0:55

because when you don't have a product to

0:58

sell you don't need advertising thing

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right think about that for a moment

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logically if you are running a lemonade

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stand and that's what you're selling and

1:08

you have five cups of lemonade that you

1:11

can sell but you have demand for let's

1:15

say 20 cups of demand well then the only

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thing you could do is raise the prices

1:20

for the five cups and hope to make a

1:23

little bit more to your bottom line but

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you're still missing out on a bunch of

1:26

excess demand a lot of customers are

1:29

upset because there's so much demand but

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you don't have the supply so guess what

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you're not doing you're not advertising

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to get people to come to your lemonade

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stand because you don't need more demand

1:39

you've got enough of that so it was

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logical to me that as soon as we saw

1:45

Supply catch up and maybe we got to 50

1:48

cups of lemonade with 20 cups of demand

1:52

maybe then what we would see is this

1:55

transition back to ads and so my thought

1:59

was that in 2021 people didn't people in

2:03

companies really didn't need to

2:05

advertise much because we didn't have

2:07

enough stuff and in 2022 we were

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supposed to have lots of stuff and then

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have to advertise more to be able to

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sell that stuff because if you have more

2:18

cups there are a few things you can do

2:19

you can drop the prices to increase

2:22

demand or you could advertise more to

2:24

bring in more customers to increase

2:26

demand or a combination of both usually

2:29

companies do a combination of both a

2:31

combination of advertising a combination

2:33

of uh you know reducing prices and being

2:36

competitive with promotions you know

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together but anyway let's talk now about

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why I was wrong so I thought that in

2:58

2022 we would see see more advertising

3:01

spending unfortunately that was

3:03

predicated on their only being about a

3:07

twenty percent chance of a recession or

3:09

a prolonged downturn uh obviously I was

3:13

very wrong about that in the summer of

3:15

2021 I thought we only had a 10 to 20

3:18

percent chance of like any kind of

3:20

prolonged downturn uh it was obvious

3:23

that the insane like opium that we saw

3:25

in November and Euphoria and stuff

3:27

wasn't going to last but I don't think

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anybody in the summer of last year was

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like oh yeah we're knocking on the door

3:32

of a recession uh with the exception of

3:34

you know some element of like I mean

3:37

maybe right like there's gonna be a

3:39

tightening cycle at some point in the

3:41

future but the stock market really seems

3:43

to get so focused on like what's

3:45

happening or going to happen in the next

3:46

three to six months sometimes we lose

3:48

sight of that longer term risk of oh

3:50

well there could be a recession of

3:52

course so that's why at the beginning of

3:53

the year when we're like oh crap we

3:55

actually might be facing a recession I

3:57

realized dang it advertising is not

3:59

going to be the gameplay for 2022 so I

4:02

was wrong because I was wrong in the

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thesis that we wouldn't have a prolonged

4:06

downturn we had a prolonged downturn

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okay so what's happening with

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advertising well it's not good it's

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really not good and what I want to help

4:14

you see with advertising is This

4:17

Disaster scramble that a company that

4:20

just reported is going through and I

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don't use this service I don't use

4:24

Snapchat I don't invest in this company

4:26

but I like to learn from companies that

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even ones that I don't use or invest in

4:31

just to see what I can take away from

4:33

them and so I'm going to give you some

4:34

really quick bottom lines here I don't

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want to get too nuanced because I think

4:38

sometimes I lose people in the sheets

4:40

and not everybody loves going into the

4:42

sheet so much so Snapchat Snapchat's a

4:45

company that's been losing money hand

4:48

over fist in the last quarter here they

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lost 422 million dollars now the thing

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about Snapchat though is for some reason

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they raised so much freaking money the

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they're actually really well capitalized

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their capitalization is so good they've

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got about six billion dollars in cash

5:07

and one billion dollars in current

5:08

liabilities which really gives them five

5:10

billion dollars to just keep losing

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money with uh and this isn't supposed to

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be just a snap video but I just want to

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show you that's a five billion dollar

5:20

Coffer to go burn if you need 400 ml per

5:23

quarter they say they expect Q3 revenues

5:26

to be flat year over year which is

5:28

terrible this is a company that's losing

5:30

money their growth is stagnating and

5:32

they're slowing and they're trying to

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figure out how do we get advertising

5:37

fixed keep this in mind this gives them

5:39

about uh what is that that's uh five

5:42

divided by 400 mil this gives you about

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12 quarters or three years of cash that

5:48

they can burn at this rate of course it

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becomes a problem if they keep spending

5:52

more money in their advertising Revenue

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goes down but this is where we can look

5:56

at the snap earnings call to try to

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understand a little bit more about

5:59

what's going on in the advertising space

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and I think it's critical for other

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advertising stocks as well including

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Netflix and trade desk or Google or

6:09

Microsoft or really any company that you

6:10

might be investing in that's exposed to

6:12

ads especially after the Apple disaster

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like the Bloomberg term right but I want

6:40

to talk about this look at this let's

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talk about the macro environment you

6:43

stated that Q3 is roughly flat is thus

6:46

far and so what they're noticing and

6:48

let's go to some of the conclusions here

6:50

what they're noticing at Snapchat is

6:52

right here we're observing a fairly

6:54

steady deceleration in advertising

6:57

demand over the last year Ah that's a

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little bit of a problem a little bit of

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a red flag especially in the advertising

7:03

space they're saying we're seeing these

7:05

various headwinds put pressure on the

7:07

earnings of a wide variety of companies

7:09

and this is directly impacting the

7:11

demand for advertising so in other words

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the macro pressures we're seeing whether

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it's less consumer demand or inflation

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or whatever are making it harder for

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companies to remain profitable other

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companies that would ordinarily be

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advertising but what they're doing is

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they're actually one of the first things

7:27

they're cutting is advertising in a bull

7:30

market my thesis would have been right

7:32

companies would have spent more money on

7:33

Advertising but we went into a bear

7:36

market and look at what snaps telling us

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one of the first things to actually get

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cut is advertising that's because

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advertising is one of the very few line

7:45

items in a company's cost structure that

7:47

can be reduced immediately it's a really

7:50

interesting thing to think of and in my

7:52

opinion it also makes you want to start

7:53

thinking about coming out of the

7:55

recession right because if we come out

7:57

of the recession and whether we're in

8:00

one now or we're going to go in one or

8:01

it's going to be close to one when we

8:03

rotate out of the recession you're going

8:06

to want to pay attention to companies

8:08

like financials but also advertising

8:10

companies because like they say here

8:12

that advertising can get ramped up very

8:14

very quickly the problem is when you're

8:16

on the downside of that slope it's

8:18

really easy to turn it off very quickly

8:21

right so bummer uh and again was wrong

8:24

we also know that a trade desk they uh

8:27

they did not end up getting the Netflix

8:29

contract which was a big bummer that was

8:31

a big deal uh that they even hinted

8:33

about right over here in the trade desk

8:35

earnings call where uh you know Netflix

8:38

was talking about uh uh you know

8:41

essentially having a straight publisher

8:42

about people that can do all the ad

8:44

matching or whatever and there was this

8:46

almost suggestion that uh a trade desk

8:49

would be one of those companies that

8:51

that could be used for Netflix because

8:52

the former CFO at Netflix is now on the

8:55

trade desk board which is kind of

8:56

incredible but that didn't end up

8:57

happening Microsoft got that deal but

8:59

what I I wanted to say over here with

9:00

tradedesk was the following trade desk

9:02

is really suffering a similar problem

9:05

that apple is and it has to do with that

9:08

Apple ID and people being able to opt

9:10

out of their private data being used for

9:12

advertising which makes that advertising

9:14

dollar less targeted which makes it less

9:17

valuable so companies are less

9:19

interested in spending money on that

9:20

advertising style now trade desk talks

9:23

about this fancy idea here that oh well

9:26

we only need about 10 percent of people

9:28

to be logged in and then we can model

9:30

the rest of people after that for

9:31

advertising to them I really question

9:34

that and Snapchat discusses in their uh

9:38

their earnings call not only this lower

9:40

bids per action and this falling demand

9:43

for ads and the falling overall

9:46

advertising spending but they also spend

9:48

quite a bit of time complaining about

9:50

Apple and this how challenging it has

9:54

been to really Target customers and one

9:57

of the things about this is in this app

9:59

issue has been going on for over a year

10:02

now where Apple has implemented their

10:04

new privacy rules and companies just

10:06

aren't figuring out how to transition to

10:08

a world with apple and the same thing is

10:10

happening at Facebook so here's what

10:12

you've got you've got Apple makes this

10:15

massive change on privacy and how people

10:17

can get targeted and so what happens

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well you get meta saying things like oh

10:22

well we'll be able to figure out and

10:24

trade desk oh well we'll figure it out

10:25

it'll be fine and Snapchat's like oh

10:27

don't worry we'll figure it out we'll be

10:29

fine even without uh without the Apple

10:31

analytics we which we used to rely on

10:33

and make so much money on okay great so

10:35

what are these companies actually doing

10:37

and this is what gets concerning for me

10:39

for the advertising space and I think

10:40

it's a big headwind to be aware of is

10:42

meta is like uh let's go to VR yeah

10:46

that'll help save our business I'm like

10:48

that's a terrible idea we just did a

10:50

fundamental analysis with course members

10:52

on Facebook and we're like

10:53

you're going all in on the metaverse

10:56

changing your company name from from

10:58

Facebook to to meta uh to try to

11:01

capitalize on this VR kind of rush but

11:03

nobody's even figured out if people like

11:05

VR yet you put the VR goggles on you get

11:07

a headache we're we're so far from the

11:09

metaverse I mean I'll go play World of

11:11

Warcraft if I want to feel like I'm in

11:12

the metaverse almost uh it's it's quite

11:14

sad uh so at the same time what's

11:18

Snapchat doing well Snapchat's also

11:20

somewhat scrambling a good bulk of their

11:22

earnings call you know what they end up

11:24

talking about instead of talking about

11:25

VR they talk about AR and how they're

11:28

going to be able to have this awesome

11:30

augmented reality system and be able to

11:33

benefit off of it because people will be

11:34

able to put dinosaurs in their Snapchat

11:36

stories or whatever I don't know but my

11:39

point of saying this oh yeah and then of

11:40

course you have trade desks that's kind

11:41

of like oh don't worry we have a uid and

11:43

we only need 10 of people logged in we

11:45

can figure advertising out my point is

11:47

you have all of these companies that

11:50

originally are like yeah come spend your

11:52

advertising dollars with with us and

11:55

you'll get a good return on your money

11:56

because we can Target people well well

11:58

apples took that away Apple killed all

12:01

of that and now you see these

12:03

advertising companies are quite frankly

12:05

scrambling meta is trying to turn itself

12:07

into the future VR company because

12:10

they're scrambling because the ads just

12:11

ain't working Snapchat is trying to turn

12:14

themselves into an augmented reality

12:16

company because the ad numbers just

12:18

aren't showing the growth anymore and

12:19

the problem with them is they can't even

12:21

make a buck they have a billions of

12:24

dollars in convertible bonds they raise

12:25

lots of money when the stock price was

12:27

higher that was smart but this is a

12:28

money furnace and so if you're betting

12:30

on these advertising companies you have

12:32

to bet that trade desk is telling you

12:34

the truth that they can figure out what

12:36

the hell they're doing with just 10 of

12:38

the data they used to have that you're

12:40

betting on Snapchat you're betting that

12:42

augmented reality is actually going to

12:43

go somewhere where that VR is going to

12:45

go somewhere if anything this whole

12:47

advertising conundrum has a lot of

12:50

people especially even like Bank of

12:51

America analysts saying the following in

12:53

invest in Apple because maybe they're

12:56

the ones that when you're logged in with

12:58

iCloud into a million different things

12:59

and they they're tracking your Apple

13:01

wallet spend or whatever maybe they have

13:03

all the data and maybe you should just

13:05

advertise through Apple this is exactly

13:08

why some people also say Google might

13:10

have some benefits because if you're

13:11

logged in on on YouTube for example

13:14

people you know it's easier to Target

13:16

ads to you because they could see what

13:18

videos you're watching if you're

13:19

watching blippi all day long you're

13:20

probably five uh you know and if you're

13:22

watching meet Kevin all day long you're

13:24

probably 35 and if you're watching other

13:26

Finance creators maybe you're 18 because

13:28

you know we'd like to go a little bit

13:29

more detailed and some people do a

13:30

little more surface level that's fine

13:31

just Target a different audience right

13:33

uh but but YouTube can determine that

13:35

but if you're not logged in and off and

13:38

then you look at these advertising

13:40

companies and what you're getting is

13:41

companies like Snapchat going oh yeah

13:43

yeah yeah obviously longest most

13:45

exciting opportunities augmented reality

13:47

really that sounds like I'm gonna have

13:50

to make a YOLO bet on augmented reality

13:52

here if I want to invest Snapchat now I

13:54

want to be crystal clear and this by the

13:57

way is also a problem for Netflix you

13:59

know all this stuff is a problem for

14:00

Netflix too because think about it

14:01

remember Netflix is coming out with

14:03

their uh their their ad supported model

14:04

it's like okay cool like you're you guys

14:07

are also going to have these sorts of

14:08

issues as an Advertiser with Microsoft

14:10

right but anyway uh the the point of all

14:14

of this is that these companies all of

14:17

them if the stock market does this which

14:20

is kind of what it's been feeling like

14:22

because we've seen this little bit of a

14:24

rebound here these companies will rise

14:26

with the tides right but the problem is

14:29

a lot of these advertising companies

14:31

have really big anchor blocks hanging

14:34

from them and it's just going to make

14:36

future earnings misses more likely and

14:39

they're probably going to be more

14:40

frustrating companies to own compared to

14:42

companies that just aren't exposed to

14:44

this advertising conundrum right now and

14:46

certainly a declining advertising market

14:48

we've been talking about ads going down

14:49

since January and we see less sponsors

14:52

in each video right this is why have to

14:54

keep sponsoring myself use the coupon

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code down below right sponsoring myself

14:57

because there are less other advertisers

14:59

we milked what we could last month I'm

15:01

sorry I know like a thousand of you were

15:02

like damn Kevin a few too many ad

15:04

Integrations okay a few too many I'm

15:06

like man I know ain't gonna last

15:09

say well we gotta pump them out let's

15:10

get them all done and then you know sure

15:12

enough it'll last uh you know because uh

15:14

because the Market's slowing down we saw

15:16

that coming we saw that writing on the

15:17

wall so uh anyway look

15:20

my bottom line is uh advertising

15:23

companies I would be very very choosy

15:25

with advertising companies right now

15:27

especially in my opinion meta I I don't

15:29

agree with VR I don't agree with ar I'm

15:31

I like trade desk but I really want to

15:33

see those advertising budgets bottom out

15:35

at companies before I could really see

15:37

myself go heavy again and again you

15:39

can't just look at the stock price and

15:40

go oh but it's up you know 10 of the

15:42

last week or whatever that that's macro

15:44

right that's Rising tide I want to be

15:46

heavy on companies that will rise with

15:48

the macro tide but will also

15:50

fundamentally perform extremely well

15:52

because again that'll insulate me with

15:54

future earnings and it'll it'll protect

15:56

me in the long term in 10 years I'm not

15:58

worried about these companies turning

15:59

into a Sears and they're going bankrupt

16:01

because they never figured out how to

16:02

make money uh anyway look don't get me

16:04

wrong I think Snapchat is great for the

16:06

people who use it their Maps feature

16:07

seems really cool you know I watched a

16:09

little bit of Ryan Reynolds show on

16:10

there and stuff like love Ryan Reynolds

16:12

like there's some cool stuff uh but they

16:15

just can't figure out how to make money

16:16

off of it so in terms of snap I don't

16:17

know problems we'll see if these are

16:19

things to pay attention to the these are

16:20

Trends but bottom line hey I was wrong

16:23

on advertising and I want to be honest

16:24

with you and I want to give you sort of

16:26

my opinion in terms of where I would be

16:28

looking to get back into advertising and

16:29

when and hopefully you got that from

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