WOW, SHOCKING VP Debate Summary & Fact Check
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well that's it what is probably the
final debate of the presidential cycle
in 2024 has just occurred between JD
Vance and Tim Walls and I have to say JD
Vance is really slick at speaking he's
clearly a master debater so really
impressive and that's not to try to
start this out bias I'm just saying I
think anybody whether you're a Democrat
or Republican you watch this you're like
ah Tim's kind of like you know your
grandpa who going to come over and kind
of like grab you on the shoulder and be
like come here Jimmy how can how how can
I help you out you know and jie V is
like my son Timmy we're going to help
you out in the following three ways
first it's like it is it is such an
incredibly different environment between
these two but I mean look let's be real
do we really think the outcome of this
election is going to change
substantially as result of what we saw
here tonight no but we did get a little
bit of some policy hints and some fact
checking so it's worth touching on these
so let's run through those also quickly
worth noting that if you look at Bitcoin
Bitcoin actually started right about
here under
61,000 and it ran right up to my next
resistance line through the debate which
in my opinion suggest Bitcoin pricing in
a bit more of Advance win on this debate
though I did notice that the betting
markets didn't actually move that much
at all from this so again while we'll
get some commentary from both sides I
don't really think we saw much of a move
over here I do think maybe we saw one
penny up on Trump and one penny down on
Harris in the uh predicted odds maybe
although this barely fluctuates on a
regular basis uh that's predicted. org
and if you look at Poly Market which is
the crypto back uh betting a market you
didn't really have much of a movement
here and you've got substantially closer
of a race between the two so with that
said let's hit some of the facts the
debate begins on Iran and the question
is would you support a preemptive strike
on Iran and walls talks about how
important it is to expand our
relationship with is proxies and the
first slam he takes is like his second
sentence which is when he calls Donald
Trump an 80-year-old and we don't need
an 80-year-old making decisions now this
I thought was interesting because it's
almost kind of like they're trying to
weaponize Walls by the way is 60 they're
trying to weaponize the Biden age
problem and turn it now against Trump uh
anyway uh walls does talk about prior
staff from Donald Trump saying Trump
should be nowhere near the White House
Donald Trump actually responds to that
and says yes some people do say that but
they were that's because they were fired
for example look at Mark esper he was
secretary of defense for a bit over a
year and then he got fired uh so you
know not so much of a surprise we always
know that Trump has a little bit of
contention with with some folks that he
ends up appointing or hiring and this is
something he actually brought up in the
last debate where he says yeah well if
somebody does a bad job I fire them and
he actually tried to draw that parallel
uh or contrast rather to Harris where he
says you know I don't keep bad workers I
fire them all right so uh then uh Vance
talks about the American dream bringing
the American dream back Vance talks
about Iran taking money uh from the
United States under the Biden
Administration it's worth noting that
yes some Iranian assets like $16 billion
of which were unfrozen for some period
of time these were Iranian assets so
it's not like money that went from us to
them it was their own money uh how and
and some of that about $6 billion of
that was later refrozen because of
Iran's volatility but yeah it's possible
some of those frozen assets that were
unfrozen were used to
quite frankly uh produce or manufacture
some of the missiles that we're seeing
now or some of the drones that are being
sold to Russia in the war against
Ukraine uh Vance finally hits what I
think is one of the most important
topics of this debate uh and quite
frankly it's something that Donald Trump
should be talking about a lot more and
Vance finally brought the point home it
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the way actually Donald Trump finally
had a big highlighter put through his
stability now I put that in quotes
because that is exactly what Vance
argued he argued that Donald Trump
brought stability that KLA Harris has
been vice president for three and a half
years and we've had a lot of instability
from Afghanistan to Ukraine to Israel to
the Red Sea and really you didn't have
any new Wars under Donald Trump this is
one of the best arguments you could
possibly start with for the Trump
Administration and I got to give JD
Vance credit for this because that's
exactly what you should start with it is
one of Donald Trump's strongest
points that he could possibly make and
Donald Trump doesn't actually make that
point as much as he should now uh JD
Vance uh does say uh uh you know he sort
of rhetorically asked well when did Iran
and Hamas attack oh during the Harris
Administration so really trying to dig
in there for some reason we don't spend
more time on geopolitics or like the
port strikes which don't even come up
instead we go into climate change which
then there's discuss this sort of like
argument over like who's polluting more
uh look let's just put that issue to
rest uh everybody like all major
countries with major populations are
polluting but I think the easiest way to
just put this to rest is just look at
the chart and look at your own see it
with your own eyes the United States is
polluting less as in it's sort of
shrinking in its level of of uh
emissions growth its emissions growth is
plummeting as its emissions remain
relatively stable and begin to decline
in growth the same is true for the EU
but it's really China and India that are
starting to see this sort of explosive
emissions growth and so van strikes this
argument of hey we should be in a
position where we're punishing China and
India by not supporting those polluters
why don't we make more in America later
there's actually an argument that comes
up that you know uh van suggests that
walls wants us to buy more Chinese solar
panels This is actually incorrect the
inflation reduction C act really only
provides subsidies for products
manufactured in the United States but JD
Vance realizes this and then comes back
and says well I mean some components are
made in China ah okay all right all
right he tried to pick that up he tried
to pick that up walls talks about
producing more clean natural gas and oil
and clean energy than ever before Vance
sort of questions this whole clean
energy thing he's trying to you know
play the anti uh Green New Deal aspects
here not so so much substance here on
the border they're both asked would you
Deport the parents of children born here
of course both of them ignore that uh
Vance talks about how uh kamla Harris
wanted to undo Trump policies and then
therefore open the floodgates to
Fentanyl and illegal migrants uh then
there's this sort of like debate that
comes up about uh uh temporary protected
status in America it's worth noting when
they talk about the Haitian migrants
that are in Springfield Ohio which
apparently there are like 15,000 of them
there and the area only has a population
of like 60,000 so it's like one in what
four people or Haitian migrants
apparently now whatever the point of
this is those Haitian migrants were just
granted an extension of the temporary
protective status by the Biden
Administration I'm adding this in right
this didn't come up in the debate they
were granted an extension through 2026
so yes you do have Asylum Seekers from
whether it's Haiti or Venezuela you know
400,000 Venezuelans you know many many
thousands of Haitians or whatever that
are getting asylum in America and they
are eligible to stay here on a basis
where that sort of you continue to get
this renewed and renewed and renewed
Asylum uh on this idea that hey we'll
just let you be here for now and we'll
figure it out later for in terms of like
dealing with it Vance has an interesting
solution He suggests look for everybody
who's here illegally let's start with
the people who committed crimes after
coming here like Beyond being here
illegally who are the criminals let's
get rid of those people first it's an
interesting idea and I I think most
people would actually agree with that
suggestion uh Vance is a big fan of
implementing deportations and uh
building the wall uh walls argues look
we tried to pass a bill to fix this uh
and Donald Trump tanked it okay yes
Donald Trump did tank the Border Bill
Republicans say well there were problems
in that anyway but then other
Republicans are like yeah no no no
Donald Trump definitely did Kill The
Border Bill to you know give himself
political leverage so even Republicans
admit that however what is interesting
and nobody brings this up but the Harris
admin well the Biden Administration
actually implemented one of Donald
Trump's executive orders to limit the
number of Asylum Seekers that are
eligible to come into the United States
uh and you won't like once that limit is
reached you don't reopen that until
border crossings fall below like, 1500
as sort of like an on andof toggle and
that was a trump executive order that he
went to court for uh and and lost in
some cases and the Biden Administration
tweaked it and is now using basically a
trump executive order to do the same
thing Trump was doing now one of the
most egregious claims was when uh wall
suggests that uh we've had uh a fewer
border crossings now than uh when Trump
was president that is just laughably
false I mean you could really look at
any uh statistics here on When Donald
Trump left office which is like right
here and you can see expulsions in
admissi apprehensions everything is
through the roof right now expulsions
actually dropped off when title 42 ended
so now you're just left with
inadmissable under Biden but honestly
I'm kind of at the place where I'm just
sort of like I don't really know what to
believe anymore I just there's a giant
border problem but then you get this
sort of other problem where walls tries
to argue that Trump only Built 2% of the
wall uh no that's not correct Donald
Trump built 452 miles of wall which is
about 23% of the total distance of the
US Mexico border which is about 1954 mil
long however only 699 miles of that are
actually land the rest is the Rio Grande
so that means 452 miles represent
roughly 65% of the land distance between
the US Mexico border or on the US Mexico
border had new Trump wall built on it
now yes there were some existing fences
and walls in a lot of those areas and so
yes only 80 Mi of new barriers were
built but even if you said 80 Mi divided
by that 2,000 M border which includes
like 1,300 M of river that's 4% not not
2% Mr woles I see where he's going with
it though I think it's highly misleading
though so I I I didn't love that though
Vance also makes this misleading Claim
about the Department of Homeland
Security losing 300,000 children yes the
Department of Homeland Security did
release a document saying hey like we've
kind of lost track of like 300,000
children people under 18 like are they
coming to a court appointment where are
they where are they living right now
where are they staying what's their
residence and yes it is possible that
these people could end up getting
trafficked which is very bad and
terrible and sad however the reality is
most of these people are
probably 15 16 17y old dudes uh they're
not like 5-year-old kids that are like
where's my mommy uh and there's some
estimates that put that somewhere around
84% so like most 16-year-olds you can
you can get by okay you can survive a
six-year-old can't uh so you know I I
just want I like to draw that because
I'm not saying it's good that the DHS
lost track of I'm just saying it it's
not as bad as it sounds when you say
they lost 300,000 children like it
sounds like you just lost a school of
preschoolers you know it like it it's
just political extremism but that's okay
both sides do it they all do it and
that's why we're here to try to clear it
up uh I did I mean I'm not going to fact
check this but I thought it was funny
when Vance is like I've been to the
Border more that our borders are KLA
Harris all right uh you know walls kind
of keep circling back to oh we need a
build h handle this we need a bill to
handle this okay and then uh that's
walls who says that and then Vance is
like the pain will stop when Trump is
back uh talking about food prices and
inflation blah blah blah keep in mind
you probably would have honestly had
inflation under Trump as well Trump
probably wouldn't have passed the chips
act the inflation reduction act and uh
$1,400 stimulus check package though so
all three of those things did probably
add fuel to the inflationary fire
because even though it's called the
inflation reduction act most of that
reduction won't actually be seen for
years
afterwards okay uh then uh H tax cuts
yeah let's hit that I I want to shout
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Americans it's worth noting had their
tax returns simplified by the tax cut
and jobs act thanks to the expanded
standard deduction the corporate tax
rate was cut to 21% so most people who
own stocks probably got a benefit out of
the tax cuts and jobs act so a lot of
people like to say oh Donald Trump only
Cuts taxes for billionaires and it's
true those in like the the highest
income paying brackets probably saved
the most but that's because they also
pay the most in taxes so I don't love
this idea of like walls going I'm a
union guy you know if you want to give
billionaires tax breaks Trump is your
guy it gives a lot of people tax breaks
uh you know yes the bottom like
40% uh uh you know maybe have only
benefited up to maybe 500 bucks but it
does
imply that uh that that the upper
threshold that is like maybe the upper
half of America uh did receive
substantial tax benefits in addition to
the corporate tax rate being cut so
we'll see but anyway uh walls really
gets screwed when he tries to to like
explain the discrepancy in his military
record he goes into talking about how
he's a middle class guy and he gets
really awkward here he's really bad like
I'm surprised he wasn't like trained or
prepped on this it should have been
really obvious that this was coming it
just didn't look good again I don't
think it really matters but it it
definitely didn't look good uh know then
Vance is asked about uh Trump and his
criticisms in the past of course he says
well the media lied to me we actually
had that on our bingo card if you want
to see how the bingo card ended up
really quick it's right here we got
Bingo on someone's mic is muted abortion
comes up they show up moderators fact
check JD Moore and hurricane relief
comes up crypto does not come up was
correct uh we did get JD rushing walls
at the end for handshake uh uh W
handshake uh JD gets the jump and and
rushes walls yeah exactly walls brings
up 20 project 2025 walls reminds
everyone he's a gun owner JD says I grew
up either in the sticks or middle class
or basically working class so we took
that one uh walls tries to hammer JD on
Trump
criticisms
uh and then of course yeah I think that
that about covers that okay that was
bingo so then we get into abortion walls
talks about just wait for the project
2025 registry okay we've talked about
this times Donald Trump has distanced
himself from 2025 project 2025 but
Democrats regularly bring it up okay
fine van says no we're not going to
create a registry we want to make it
easier for people to afford to have kids
a home and access to fertility treatment
and then sort of like a debate ensues
about whether or not certain individuals
were denied care you know should ha
Catholic Hospitals be forced to provide
abortion like there these like really
Nuance things that honestly I don't
think is worth spending ter terribly
much time on I just like personally
clarify that uh you know I've I've I'm
trying to be as balanced as possible
here and I think I've done some
factchecking more on one side than the
other I'm going to try to balance it
just by I got to give a little more of a
fact check here to Trump we brought this
up earlier as well as usual Donald Trump
tweets that you know basically I can't
believe there are radical Democrats that
are doing abortions in the 7th 8th or
9th month no that is not happening those
things only happen if the child is going
to die and therefore potentially kill
the mother or create some kind of
medical emergency that doesn't happen
and then this idea about executing a
baby after birth this is again it's just
it's it's a it's look some children are
born and they are viable for a few hours
but they have chromosomal chromosomal
chromosomal my goodness abnormalities
and they're going to die they will not
survive they will die so yes there have
been quotes about this Governor talking
about we try to make the child
comfortable it's been way taken out of
context it totally has a reference to do
with children that are going to die
anyway it is the most terrible thing
ever I have seven children and I I just
I hate this kind of stuff I hate even
talking about it because it's just
terrible to think about nobody wants to
see a child die but I just want to
clarify this because like honestly I I
personally sometimes when I listen to
Trump uh speak or or when he writes this
kind of stuff I I just wish we could get
like a little bit more in the middle
like a little bit more rational with
some of these things because this stuff
just pisses me off because it's just
it's like it's Looney you know
California doesn't for example
California is one of your most liberal
states when it comes to abortion you
can't have an abortion after fetal
viability uh you know and and I've been
for a very long time in the niku with
babies I love all of the babies many B
give me all the babies I'm a big fan of
babies I want more children actually uh
but anyway this topic for a different
thing H just frustrating but anyway uh
on guns uh walls brings up this idea of
hey kids should just be kids why do we
have this problem it comes down to the
guns Vans is like no there are me mental
health problems we have higher rates of
depression and anxiety than anywhere
else in the world we have a mental
health crisis wall says well just
because you have a mental health crisis
doesn't mean that you know uh mental
health people are violent uh they uh uh
you know it's the problem is they have
access to guns you know this turns into
sort of a gun debate um look I do think
mental health is a problem I mean so
what I did on this is I just looked up
the share of population with mental
health disorders and I mean I have to
give it to to the mental health argument
you know United States is pretty damn
red okay we're as red as freaking
Greenland and
Australia Spain Portugal and Iran dude
we're as red as Iran when it comes to
mental health disorders I think there's
a guy over there named
Kami uh some Ayatollah or whatever he he
might qualify as one of the people on
that list uh anyway I thought this was
kind of interesting I don't know you
know mental health argument like like
who else we got over there Syria where's
Israel Israel the Israelis have like a
quarter fewer mental health problems per
100 people than we do the Israelis with
with the Iron Dome and bombs going off
in their backyards they have fewer
mental health problems per capita than
America let that sink in oh jeez man a
maybe we maybe that's the problem we
don't have enough problems in
America there's no common enemy so so
you become your own ene I don't know
anyway on housing uh you know walls
talks about we're not just going to hand
out money we're going to make housing
more affordable nobody actually has a
clear plan on this they talk about tax
credits down payment assistance look
it's going to make housing more
unaffordable yes a a current home buyer
could benefit with a down payment
assistance program but it's just is
going to increase the prices of homes
for everybody else down the road so
generally not an economically sound
principle but it does help buy
votes uh Vance says hey if you stopped
letting illegals in you wouldn't drive
up home prices as much oh and by the way
if we opened up to more American Energy
you know Keystone Pipeline talk or
whatever maybe it would be cheaper to
build things like houses because you
could ship stuff cheaper It's actually
an interesting argument I I thought that
was actually pretty good uh vans
reiterates that we're going to cover
pre-existing conditions uh on uh Health
insurances talked about inflation uh
both of them touched on paid leave and
being open to a debate on paid leave
nobody really gave a time frame in terms
of how long that should be uh let's see
here Vance clarifies that Trump how is
threat how is Trump a threat to
democracy when he peacefully Gave Over
power to Biden on January 20th that's
true he did do that uh
walls finishes with we don't agree on
everyone but we have optimistic people
on our side including Dick Cheney Taylor
Swift and others we're going to create
an opportunity economy uh Vance made it
clear he'll stand with the Trump agenda
Harris gives us a different option
Harris is bringing the politics of Joy
all we have to fear is fear itself then
I mean honestly they are running a very
different campaign right you know Trump
it's usually everything's crap and with
Harris it's like we're going to make it
better the I was actually hoping Trump
would kind of take some of the like the
hope POV he has not uh Vance's final
statement talks about crime and drugs
are getting worse due to Harris Harris's
policies make this worse we need change
someone with the experience who can get
this done vote for
Trump all right so there's your uh
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