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hey everyone me kevin here so there's a

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chance that i could be wrong uh

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according to history there's actually

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one instance in the past where we were

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able to get under five percent inflation

0:12

without a recession and i think it's

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worth

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exploring what the economist just said

0:18

about this one era and what it could

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mean for us going forward so

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that's what we're going to do in this

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video

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if you find this helpful well

0:27

buckle up and consider getting yourself

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life insurance in as little as five

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minutes by the link down below all right

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so the first thing that we should do is

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we should look at inflation year over

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year and the easiest way to do this is

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just hop over to the st louis fred grab

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the chart and we can go all the way back

0:43

to the 50s and we can see what inflation

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has looked like uh well historically and

0:48

broadly speaking as as somebody who

0:50

loves charting

0:52

we know that we have had this

0:54

downtrend of inflation essentially since

0:58

the 80s i mean it's pretty clear after

1:00

paul volcker killed inflation over here

1:02

we've seen this consistent downtrend and

1:04

a lot of this agrees with the kathy

1:06

woodyan argument which is technological

1:09

innovation and creative disruption leads

1:12

prices to go down it leads

1:15

legacy companies to go bankrupt and have

1:17

to lower prices because of that leading

1:18

to broader based in deflation rather

1:21

than inflation so the long-term trend

1:23

here is clear decades long i i would

1:25

expect we're more likely to face

1:27

negative interest rates than

1:29

hyperinflation at least based on the

1:31

longer term trend and the rationale for

1:34

that longer term trend uh what's

1:36

fascinating though is if we look at this

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chart and we look at the five percent

1:40

level which is right here where my mouse

1:42

is here there's only been one time in

1:44

history we've actually been able to get

1:45

it down without a recession you see here

1:47

recession well at least in the last 70

1:49

years right here recession here

1:52

recession here recession uh i i guess

1:56

that never really hit five percent no

1:57

that hit four point eight nine percent

1:59

okay here you go over five percent

2:00

recession uh here we go uh this didn't

2:03

even hit five percent recession we hit

2:05

five percent here during 08 recession

2:07

right and so here we are again

2:09

uh and and this is as far as the measure

2:11

goes back maybe maybe that's why we

2:12

can't go any further back this is the

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furthest it goes back looks like we're

2:15

above five percent here and of course we

2:16

had a recession as well and so the only

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time that we have not hit a recession

2:19

was actually right here in 1951 where we

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went from 9.4 inflation back down and

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we're going to talk about that

2:27

right after we take a listen to uh some

2:31

highlights from this article from the

2:33

economist it's really really incredible

2:36

so here they talk about today as

2:38

inflation spikes there's a growing sense

2:40

that the fed has lost its way they and

2:43

this so far they say has battered stock

2:45

markets we know this last eight weeks

2:47

eight to nine weeks have been a little

2:48

rough and led many firms and homeowners

2:50

to wonder if the era of low rates might

2:51

be over for good

2:53

and so they say that in the long run

2:56

they believe that the world's aging

2:57

population along with the kathy woodian

2:59

argument essentially is going to keep a

3:01

cap on interest rates but what's

3:03

important is what might happen between

3:06

now and the long term so that's short to

3:08

medium term and this is where they think

3:11

we might go through what they call an

3:13

unpleasant financial squeeze rather than

3:16

this hyperinflationary paul volcker

3:18

disaster style era of the 1970s

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so let's take a look at this

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they mentioned that over history

3:26

we've been somewhere

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well global interest rates have been

3:30

above five percent uh in the 90s and

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over the last decade they've only been

3:34

about two and a half percent we've seen

3:36

cheap financing sort of be the

3:38

cornerstone of our global economy uh and

3:42

they suggest that right now though in

3:44

the last 18 months we've had a little

3:46

bit of a rude awakening that so far with

3:48

inflation at seven percent now and the

3:50

next expected cpi read to come in at 7.3

3:53

percent they argue that it's likely

3:55

we're far from transitory inflation and

3:58

if anything inflation right now seems to

4:00

be feeding into

4:02

wages and this is a problem because as

4:03

soon as inflation goes into wages then

4:05

you could potentially risk what's known

4:07

as the wage price spiral this is that as

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prices of things go up via inflation

4:12

people demand more pay because they need

4:15

more pay just to pay food and rent and

4:17

bills and we know that rent's gone

4:18

ridiculous potentially as much as 20 up

4:21

year over year

4:22

and so that demands that wages go up but

4:24

if wages go up and companies want to

4:26

preserve their profit margins they raise

4:27

their prices as a way to preserve profit

4:30

margins which is literally what every

4:31

single company has been saying in their

4:33

earnings calls for q4 that they believe

4:35

they have pricing power and because

4:37

prices have gone up for wages and costs

4:39

they're going to raise prices to

4:40

preserve their margins to try to appease

4:42

their investors and that sounds good for

4:44

the company but it's terrible for

4:46

inflation because it means that the

4:47

spiral is starting and it's an upward

4:50

driving spiral now

4:52

they say here that private sector wages

4:53

and salaries are up five percent in a

4:55

year i wrote next to it rent because we

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know rent is up about 20 so there's

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actually

4:59

a lag uh you know in in real terms wages

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have actually gone down in the last year

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real terms is basically just taking your

5:06

actual your nominal wage growth of five

5:08

percent subtracting inflation from it

5:10

and then you're negative two percent so

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you have actually had a real decline of

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wages in of two percent over the last

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year which is insane because everything

5:17

else has gotten more expensive i mean

5:18

there are some food items that have gone

5:20

up 50 and it makes you wonder like why

5:22

is our cpi seem rigged sometimes but you

5:24

know that's the topic for a different

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video in december the median consumer

5:28

expected prices rose by six percent over

5:30

12 months and many of these trends are

5:31

being felt around the world global

5:33

inflation they say has now reached six

5:34

percent and as a result of this we're

5:36

seeing 12 emerging market rate setters

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aka central banks raising rates in 2021

5:41

the bank of england did so as well the

5:43

bank of england is about a quarter

5:44

percent ahead of us and now all eyes on

5:46

are on powell who whom the economist

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says has a dominant role in the world

5:50

but argues is behind the curve now they

5:53

do say that the goal is to get back to

5:55

two percent by 2024 which might be close

5:57

to the neutral rate of interest this is

5:59

when you're neither stimulating the

6:01

economy uh nor uh

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essentially trying to tighten on the

6:05

economy or restrain the economy or as

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they say here hold it back

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uh and so

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here they go on to say that the most

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likely prospect uh therefore of a year

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or more of interest rates rising well

6:18

okay let me rephrase this a little bit

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so in the long term 2024 plus they

6:23

believe it's likely we're going to see

6:24

these lower rates again that makes sense

6:26

but they make this argument here and

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that's the start of a powerful argument

6:29

that they're going to conclude with you

6:31

they believe that quote the most likely

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prospect is therefore

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of a year or more of interest rates in

6:39

america rising more sharply than the fed

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has so far indicated

6:44

some forecasters predict interest rates

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will rise by 1.75 percentage points in

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2022 more than any year since 2005. and

6:54

so the economist here is making the

6:56

argument that look long term we're going

6:58

to have lower rates we're going to have

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a more likely element of deflation the

7:02

kathy woody an argument is going to make

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sense but we're going to go through this

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really weird financial squeeze period

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and we don't exactly know what's going

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to happen nobody can predict exactly

7:13

what the market is going to do

7:15

and this is why we look to history and

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that that chart i showed you which we'll

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be going back to in a moment and so

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again they reiterate here that the most

7:23

likely prospect is a year or more of

7:26

interest rates rising more sharply than

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the fed has indicated now i think this

7:29

is interesting because right now you've

7:31

got people like mary daley coming out

7:33

from the federal reserve and and they're

7:35

suggesting things like hey you know what

7:36

we're going to be data dependent we'll

7:38

see what the data does our goal is a

7:40

smooth landing a soft landing jerome

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powell says we want to be very

7:44

predictable and methodical with how we

7:46

do this we want to communicate clearly

7:49

to the the american public into markets

7:52

we've got neil kashgari who even was had

7:55

headlines suggesting that maybe there

7:57

would be a pause in store for interest

7:59

rates in the spring or maybe only two

8:01

rate hikes this year although when i

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broke down the actual transcript of that

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neil kashgari article and transcript

8:08

went through the transcript neil

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kashgari said the only way we would

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pause interest rate hikes is if the data

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started turning in our favor otherwise

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it's possible we might have to move to a

8:17

more contractionary stance so i think

8:20

the fed a little bit is playing us

8:23

they're trying to play the violin for us

8:25

and say hey everything's gonna be okay

8:27

everything's gonna relax like we're

8:29

gonna be fine we're gonna soft landing

8:30

this but i think the fed themselves

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realizes that's the hopeful case

8:35

scenario that

8:37

hope isn't always the scenario that's

8:39

going to work out best uh you know with

8:41

a rescue ship for the titanic took four

8:43

hours to come hope was that it would be

8:45

there within the next 30 minutes okay

8:48

hope doesn't always work out but they're

8:49

playing the violin for us right now now

8:52

i want to just clarify before we get to

8:53

the end of this article i i used to be

8:55

the biggest fan of jay pow but i'll tell

8:58

you when he flipped on us nine days

9:02

after meeting with joe biden i lost a

9:05

lot of respect and i made a video saying

9:07

i can no longer trust this guy it was a

9:10

short it was like 59 seconds long you

9:11

could probably see it just type into

9:12

youtube meet kevin i can no longer trust

9:13

this guy jerome powell or fed or

9:15

whatever and you probably see him

9:17

and that was within that moment where

9:18

i'm like you literally just flipped

9:19

because of politics or like what why it

9:22

was odd uh so anyway and i like

9:25

in hindsight like

9:27

i i don't disrespect him i suppose for

9:29

for making this change because i'd

9:31

rather know but the fact that it came

9:33

nine days after meeting joe biden makes

9:35

me think that there's a lot more

9:36

politics at play here and the fed right

9:39

now is kind of trying to sing the song

9:41

of joe biden

9:42

trying to tell us that in this midterm

9:44

election year don't worry everything's

9:45

gonna be okay we've got it all under

9:46

control and there's supposed to be a

9:48

political you know

9:49

chasm between these two anyway

9:51

so over the past 20 years the underlying

9:53

neutral rate has steadily fallen as

9:55

savings and investments got out of whack

9:57

rising global savings caused by hoarding

9:59

of cash reserves in asian countries and

10:01

so on so forth basically

10:03

they reiterate here that look it's very

10:05

very normal that because of

10:06

technological progresses and uh and what

10:09

history tells us spending on

10:10

intellectual property and innovation

10:12

again the kathy woodian argument it's

10:14

very normal for us to expect that

10:15

interest rates will go back down

10:18

substantially for for the long term and

10:20

that we can expect a low level of

10:22

interest rates in the long term future

10:24

that's okay but take a look at this this

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this is very interesting

10:28

these factors lay down the map for

10:30

interest rates in other words rates are

10:32

going to go down in the long term in the

10:34

long run

10:35

any upward shift is likely to be small

10:38

and to the extent that this reflects a

10:40

pickup in investments welcomed because

10:42

we want to see more investments right

10:44

however between now the short term the

10:46

medium term and the long term

10:49

there is likely to be a sharp and

10:52

potentially painful rise in rates

10:56

the world's debts have reached 355

11:00

percent of gdp

11:01

making firms and households potentially

11:04

more sensitive to even small rate rises

11:06

potentially after we offload the cash

11:08

that we have because households do have

11:10

a lot more cash on their balance sheets

11:11

but once that cash is gone that's when

11:14

pain starts because that's when you go

11:15

back to debt and it's like oh crap

11:17

credit card rates are higher buy now pay

11:19

later rates are higher everything's

11:20

getting jacked up right and then listen

11:22

to this one folks there are few examples

11:25

of central banks taming inflation

11:27

without the economy suffering recession

11:30

the last time

11:31

america's inflation fell

11:33

from over five percent without a

11:36

downturn was over 70 years ago

11:39

fighting inflation could put the world

11:41

in a slump

11:42

if so the prospect that rates will one

11:45

day fall back again would only offer

11:48

some consolation

11:50

that's kind of bearish now what about

11:52

that one exception can we be that one

11:56

historical exception where inflation was

11:59

quelled

12:00

well we have to know what happened in

12:02

1950 to 1952. the korean war happened

12:06

and when you have a war you tend to have

12:09

wartime inflation that's because

12:12

manufacturers shift their production to

12:15

guns instead of butter this is the old

12:17

definition of guns and butter not the

12:19

stocks in psychology money definition

12:21

that we like to use but they shift their

12:23

production to means of war like tanks

12:26

and bullets and guns and that increases

12:28

the price of things like butter and food

12:31

and consumer consumer essentials right

12:34

because we're focused on a war

12:36

now what's interesting is what happened

12:37

in 1951 is our government and treasury

12:41

department actually felt that inflation

12:43

would be long lasting so they

12:45

implemented very stringent price

12:47

controls and aggressively responded by

12:51

essentially tightening monetary and

12:53

fiscal policy to bring inflation back

12:55

down

12:56

they also raised taxes so they raised

12:59

taxes they tightened policy and they put

13:01

in price control saying we're not

13:03

allowing you to charge more than x for a

13:05

certain product well this succeeded in

13:07

bringing inflation down

13:09

but what happened unfortunately was

13:11

because of these higher taxes and all of

13:14

these these price controls we ended up

13:16

just kicking the can down the road about

13:18

two years from 1951 and we fell into a

13:21

recession in the third quarter of 1953

13:25

all the way through the first quarter of

13:27

1954. now it was a brief a recession

13:30

it wasn't an extremely painful recession

13:33

like what we've seen in 2008 or or uh

13:36

probably uh what we've seen in other

13:38

recessions it was brief and and

13:40

relatively painless but it was still a

13:42

recession nonetheless and so i find it

13:44

very interesting that the only time

13:46

we've actually been able to get under

13:48

five percent inflation without creating

13:50

a recession was when we basically raised

13:53

taxes a bunch and implemented price

13:54

controls unfortunately neither of those

13:57

are very likely to happen in america

13:59

there's not a lot of appetite to raise

14:00

taxes especially during a democratic

14:02

administration when republicans have

14:04

enough control to basically prevent

14:06

the biden administration from doing

14:07

anything until 2024 so i don't think

14:10

taxes are going to be able to go up much

14:12

especially since the buildback better

14:13

plan keeps getting whacked i really

14:15

doubt that price controls are going to

14:16

be popular because price controls are

14:18

the lifting of price controls are

14:20

ultimately what led to the insane

14:22

inflation that we saw in the late 60s

14:24

and then the disasters that we saw in

14:25

the 70s

14:27

so i also doubt that we're going to see

14:29

price control so price controls and

14:31

taxes are likely off the table which

14:32

means we're most likely to see

14:34

aggressive monetary policy tightening

14:36

from the federal reserve in addition to

14:38

a lack of fiscal stimulus leading to

14:41

what is most likely going to be

14:44

according to history a recession that

14:46

pulls us down from above five percent

14:49

levels of of inflation now that does not

14:52

necessarily have to be a bad thing you

14:54

know i think when we hear recession we

14:55

think oh my gosh that's it you know time

14:57

to be the most bearish ever not

14:58

necessarily recessions are wonderful

15:00

opportunities to remove speculation from

15:02

markets

15:04

to remove uh uh

15:06

zombie companies from markets that

15:07

shouldn't be alive to create the

15:09

innovation that we should actually

15:11

foster the fact that companies like

15:13

amazon and apple have become so

15:14

incredibly efficient from the pandemic

15:17

uh and and have have uh you know worked

15:19

on their supply chains to the point

15:20

where in a few years they're gonna have

15:22

the most efficient supply chains in the

15:23

world they're gonna be the most

15:24

efficient companies ever that we've seen

15:26

in the world a recession wouldn't hurt

15:28

them i mean their stock price might go

15:30

down temporarily but in the long term

15:31

they'd be great like companies like

15:32

tesla and whatever else they'll be

15:33

they'll be phenomenal in the long term

15:35

but in the short term what you'll

15:37

actually likely do is weed the

15:39

battlefield for these companies and

15:41

you'll actually pave the way for

15:42

companies like apple amazon and tesla to

15:45

be bigger more efficient companies than

15:47

we've ever seen before in our lifetimes

15:50

so a recession could actually be the

15:51

best possible thing to get all the crap

15:54

out of the way get the speculation out

15:56

of the way reset our economy so to speak

15:59

get rid of inflation and then we're

16:01

really off to the races the question now

16:03

though and this is the most difficult

16:05

one is do you buckle up and hold on for

16:07

the ride because we're going to have a

16:09

lot of rallies and crashes and rallies

16:11

and crashes and rallies and crashes

16:13

between now and when we get inflation

16:15

down hopefully inflation is transitory

16:18

the biggest argument which at this point

16:20

we know is not but

16:21

the biggest argument that inflation will

16:23

be coming down is that don't worry

16:24

supply chains will fix themselves by the

16:26

end of 2022 or at least they'll get

16:28

better in the second half but the

16:29

question that i have to ask you is just

16:32

because supply chains get better does

16:34

that mean companies are going to stop

16:35

raising their prices if consumers are

16:36

still buying or do supply chains get

16:39

better reducing the costs that

16:41

businesses have and prices continue to

16:43

go up because people are continued

16:44

continuing to be willing to pay those

16:46

prices leading to essentially double

16:49

benefits to the profit margins of

16:50

companies lower costs and higher incomes

16:53

and then we actually get the greatest

16:55

earnings ever for companies right before

16:57

potentially going into an actual

16:59

recession when the fed says we've got to

17:01

get really aggressive here uh i don't

17:04

know i obviously don't know the answers

17:06

but i'm going to be tracking this on the

17:08

daily to try to find out when we

17:11

actually hit an inflation inflection

17:13

point and of course i'll be sending

17:14

alerts in the stocks and psychology

17:16

money group for any kind of transactions

17:19

or trades that i make based on new

17:20

information that i find thank you so

17:22

much for watching i really appreciate

17:23

you and folks we'll see in the next one

17:24

thanks goodbye

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