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everything that was just said in the
Tesla earnings report the Tesla earnings
call uh we'll talk about the good the
bad and uh well let's just get right
into it okay first things first when it
comes to earnings yeah they they they
miss okay Tesla's missed six out of the
last eight times so making the bet that
Tesla's probably not going to do super
well was probably the right bet in fact
it is probably why the stock basically
sold off going into earnings in the
first place at the time of recording
this in the postm market it is down 5%
and our next FIB retracement does leave
us with a 175 in sight which isn't is n
great we're looking like we're going to
open below 200 tomorrow so you're below
a psychological threshold will that lead
people to buy the dip who knows we'll
find out but what were the numbers
well again adjusted DS missed by 2 cents
coming in at 71 cents versus 73 free
cash flow Beats at 2.06 billion versus
the 1.45 expected gross margin missed
with
17.6% versus the 18.1% expected and X
credits we came in at
17.2% we've got this summary over here
at eack I will say there is still no
bottom in margin it is worth noting that
production costs came down 3.2% from the
last quarter we've been seeing price
declines come down but it's worth
balancing those price declines with the
fact that lithium prices have been
plummeting which is good but you know
that's just one component here and we
want to potentially see lithium prices
come back down or continue to come down
but we also want to see cost Savings in
other areas which we are seeing and is
probably why we've been seeing these
cost declines here really it's a way of
saying hey there's deflation in
manufacturing whether that's coming from
Innovation or that's coming from cheaper
uh commodity prices or it's coming from
both for example going to a 48 volt
architecture system and the massive
reduction in need to use copper is one
of the ways that you could actually save
money however we are coming to a limit
in terms of how much of a reduction you
could actually get or expect from uh
Tesla's uh production cost we're coming
up to about a
$36,000 cost per vehicle Tesla calls
that a limit so imagine that is sort of
this line that's hitting this 36,000 uh
limit the uh analysts and Executives in
the calls did sort of indicate that oh
there's still more we can do don't worry
I'm not sure if they were just saying
that because they're sad the stock is
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a little scary but also exciting when it
comes to the realate market uh anyway no
production estimate given for 2024 this
is in the bingo card and in uh the
actual call we got nothing bingo card
earnings call nothing the only thing we
heard is that uction would be lower for
2024 but we didn't hear how much lower
just lower just interesting and kind of
annoying that we had no guidance at all
some of the comments regarding uh or
some people were commenting that the
Next Generation Investments could be why
production might actually maybe even go
as far as negative below the 1.8 uh 1
million vehicles per year I don't think
that's true Elon did make it cleared
that Q4 is growing uh production at uh a
rate close to 2 million but then again
close to I guess 1.8 is close to 2
million but Elon did start off by saying
that hey we're close to 2 mil he's very
very excited about the nextg platform
calls it uh remarkable revolution in
manufacturing one that will be uh uh
first tested out in Giga Mexico however
they won't conduct any product
announcements here and then they will
only build Giga Mexico after they tested
out the manufacturing in Giga Texas
which means you're going to have the
manufacturing line tested out Giga Texas
probably late 25 then in 2026 you'll
probably get to Giga Mexico and we'll
probably announce a third Giga uh
location for the NextGen platform at the
end of 2024 or early
2025 which really means for us to
actually price in the Next Generation
model we're probably looking at uh mid
this year before you actually start
pricing that in stock market usually
tries to price about 18 months ahead so
18 months ahead does put us at about
June July before we start pricing in the
Next Generation platform the ramp of the
Cyber truck is expected to be longer and
slower than uh other models the model 3
being threeyear hell as Elon says with
the model y being slightly easier since
borrowed a lot from the model 3 no
mention on the earnings call of solar
deployment those solar deployments
substantially negative 33% uh to the
negative uh in q1 of 2023 flat Q2 - 26%
Q3 those are all sequentially mind you
which is not great another 16% down in
Q4 operating margin appears to have
bottomed at 7.6% now up at
8.2% storage grew 2 and A2 uh 2.25 times
in 2023 but did fall to 19 1.5% uh or
did fall 19 1.5% in Q4 from Q3 so some
kind of sequential slowdown there in
solar and batteries not great in the
near-term 4 end phase roughly $29
billion of cash 24ish billion in debt SL
payables 6.3% growth in superchargers
quarter over quarter installed vehicle
uh capacity is flat at about 2.35
million so it looks like we'll probably
be producing slight LLY below the
installed capacity other things that we
are looking at is uh uh basically saying
look we can't predict what gross margins
are going to do the company's obviously
still got pretty good gross margins at
17.2% X credits that's pretty remarkable
but without that real growth which they
say is really driven by interest rates
it's hard to say what margins are going
to do Elon says if rates come down
quickly margins will go up if rates come
down slowly margins won't go up as fast
pretty straight straightforward shows
you that Tesla is an interest rate
sensitive company in my opinion that can
still mean recession resilient but not
interest rate resilient very big
distinction that's very important
company talking about being between two
major growth waves essentially a way of
saying hey we're going to be at a little
slower period of growth that is we may
have been growing at you know 40 to 50%
da da da then we hit a little bit of a
trough and that's hoping to set up for
the next scurve
uh actually downplayed Optimus here I
was pretty surprised not Optimus Dojo
was downplayed I was pretty surprised
with how much Elon Musk downplay Dojo he
called it a high potential high risk or
sorry it a project that has potential
but that is high risk High payoff and
that it's potentially a long shot
without a high probability of actually
occurring uh this is why they're
undergoing with a dual path approach to
figuring out uh artificial intelligence
which is basically a way of saying like
we're all in on Nvidia while at the same
time all in
on uh uh Dojo at the same time
interesting way to put it uh and I do
think that downplays Dojo quite a bit
more than I expected they are about to
complete version three of Tesla's
Hardware that uh worth noting is uh not
uh that's actually Hardware 5 that's
because they started with mobile ey then
Nvidia and then three versions of Tesla
Hardware they are uh not seeing any
interest in other companies uh in the
scope of full self-driving licensing
even though elon's open to that we're
not seeing anybody actually bite on it
he seems to think that other people
don't think it's real yet which I agree
why I think they ought to you know
consider advertising how beautiful that
full self driving is but they might get
inou Trouble With The Regulators if they
do that laob facility is adding another
production line expected to double its
capacity for battery packs from 10 20
gwatt hours to 40 inbound logistic costs
are coming down they're optimizing and
negotiating on Advertising they have run
digital targeted uh campaigns to drive
awareness education however the biggest
issue they still see is affordability
they are trying to address
misconceptions of EVS on safety and
affordability but everything ultimately
comes down to and they don't want to
overspend on Advertising uh by the way
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the things that I was surprised that did
not get mentioned uh I was surprised we
didn't I I wasn't really surprised we
didn't get anything on Uber or a van but
I was surprised that we did not get any
Red Sea commentary we did get Bingo
twice boom boom
Elon did walk back the 25% stock comp he
mentioned this is not to get economical
25% control it's simply he wants more
voting control and he thinks he can
accomplish this with a dual class of
share that's that he believes Tesla's on
the path to creating an AI and Robotics
Juggernaut and he doesn't uh he doesn't
want to control it but he also uh
doesn't want so little influence that I
could be voted out by some random share
older holder he argues uh so we did not
see any comments on a solar bottom no
talk about a van or Uber no talk about
further price Cuts nominal talk about
the charging Network so I I left that
one unchecked no production numbers
which was really surprising no Union
talk no audible puff of a joint no
mention of digging our own grave no
mention about crypto no mention of Earth
as a market no uh
whatever Frameworks over here uh no
insulting an analyst uh some of these
things were slightly de eii wasn't
mentioned some of these may have been
mentioned but would have been relatively
nominal I can't remember if he mentioned
production as hard or some of these so
it's possible at some of these others I
wasn't paying attention to as much but
anyway uh the ones that were very clear
of course they have an excess supply of
4680 this was very interesting plenty of
4680 and they think they're going to
sell out cyber trucks for 2024 based on
how many people are converting off the
weit list obviously there's a loss in
that but they think they're going to do
eventually up to 250,000 cyber trucks a
year they did not give a production
Target for how many they produced last
year or how many they're looking for
this year they uh did mention twice the
most valuable company in the world
comment uh interest rates were
complained about project Redwood was
talked about AI day was briefly talked
about although Elon was a little bit
concerned other companies are just
copying everything that they're doing so
uh as far as the actual stock well I
mean not a surprise the sucker's down
and missed this is what's supposed to
happen in earnings the company the stock
is not as down as much uh as I thought
it would have been though who knows
sometimes after these calls are done it
plummets even more they did talk about
how Optimus is extremely revolutionary
but some of the executives sort of
argued like hey well you know does it do
anything you useful and there was like a
little bit of a back and forth there
between the exec and Elon where's like
yeah yeah it already does useful stuff
yeah stock almost down 6% now so you are
getting a bleed the implied volatility
was 6% so uh we'll see if how puts end
up printing tomorrow uh if they do at
all since we're not past 6% yet the the
stock could end up falling more tomorrow
who knows I do think on a technical
basis with this bad news out of the way
I do think that 175 is a pretty safe
floor no guarantees but I've been very
clear that when we failed this breakout
here and earnings were coming up 175
well well 221 was easy but 175 was a
possibility and so we are on a nasty
downtrend right now so you do have some
potential near-term pain uh however I do
think as usual after earnings you get a
few days of down and then you do
potentially have the opportunity for for
Tesla play some catchup to uh the market
essentially being at all-time highs look
at how different those stock charts are
that's the NASDAQ for you that's Tesla
pretty embarrassing Tesla stuck in that
wedge there but uh it is an interest
rate sensitive stock whereas companies
propping up the NASDAQ right now like
Nvidia are anything but interest rate
sensitive in fact uh Tesla's Opex
spending is heavily going into a company
like Nvidia I think any if anything here
of this Tesla earnings called reiterated
uh what we have on uh nvidia's dominance
in AI the fact that Elon downplay Dojo
is quite frankly one of the
strongest uh pushes you could see for
NVIDIA like Elon basically just handed a
win to Nvidia there so I have to give
Nvidia a big high five on that one uh so
I still I'm still personally of this
dual track mindset where you can have
chip exposure that's not personal
financial advice obviously but chip
exposure that's uh Nvidia AMD asml Intel
uh TSM you get your chip exposure and
then potentially you equal weight that
with energy and Tesla so that might be
like an end phase in Tesla those two are
your anchors right now once those two
rally that's a goodlook portfolio but
right now you've got one that's crushing
it one that's sucking kind of hurting
the portfolio a little bit but I think
it's just a matter of time of when
interest rates go down where you get the
slingshot even if you get a correction
on chips you get that slingshot on
energy that creates a pretty good-look
portfolio the question is when is the
time to enter those and quite
frankly nobody knows anyway with that
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