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The Housing Market *JUST* CRASHED | Zillow.

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oh hey everyone i thought i was done

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filming for today and you know i may

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have just had a shower and gotten

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totally blindsided by this report from

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zillow and you know things might still

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be a little unhinged around here but

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holy crap bloomberg just had the

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following

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of from zillow

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and uh in a headline piece here we got

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to talk about it a little bit

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oh boy here we go all right here it is

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dang quote the market is softening the

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housing market that is see zillow does

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homes full stop says the ceo of zillow

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in an interview he says quote i think

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the toughest macro lens is that

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inventories continue to plummet

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flat transactions would be good this

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year and i don't know if we will get

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there okay this is challenging so we

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gotta talk about this and we get a

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little bit more color from this excerpt

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by going to the earnings call not the

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interview the earnings call

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so let's jump on over there and try to

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understand what zillow's seeing because

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it's a good heads up for the housing

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market remember zillow is a company that

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has a lot of data on us as as individual

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searchers from for homes and obviously

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one of the first things to get hit uh

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you would expect at least

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if the housing market was beginning to

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slow down would be individuals

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willingness or interest in searching for

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homes

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so let's jump over to the uh earnings

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call and see kind of what they've got

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compared to expectations now first it's

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worth noting that our expectations are

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that when

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interest rates shoot up four percent

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that we would have potentially a 40 drag

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down

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in purchasing power but of course if you

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have excess demand in the amount of 40

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you might not actually see home prices

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go down at all so that's sort of like

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the backdrop of what our expectations

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are going in that maybe zillow would

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tell us they're starting to see some

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forms of uh cracks i mean obviously when

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they already say the market is stopping

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full s

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or softening full stop that's already a

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problem and they're talking about tough

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macro right so let's jump into the

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earnings call here and let's just snoop

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around a little bit in the earnings call

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so they talk about how inventory is

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still in march was down 23 year over

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year and remember the last year is uh is

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essentially a year that gave us 20 plus

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percent across the entire united states

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in increased prices which is incredible

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however even though inventory levels and

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this is one of the big things that

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people keep talking about they keep

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saying oh well housing prices can't go

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down because inventory levels are down

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that's true year over year you know if

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this right here is march of 21 then you

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know maybe over here

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i should actually draw it kind of like

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this maybe over here is march of 2022.

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now now why did i actually draw it with

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that little inflection point up ah

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that's because take a look at this

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new for sale listings were less strained

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in march up 36

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from feb levels but still down nine

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percent year over year so actually we're

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probably doing a little bit more like

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that trying to get back uh just nine

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percent down essentially here from those

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march of 2021 levels okay interesting so

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kind of seeing a little bit of an

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inflection point where maybe inventories

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are starting to move up but then again

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that could be seasonal right i mean who

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lists their home in february that's lame

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you sell in march right it could be

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entirely seasonal so what else can we

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see here transaction value growth trends

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are meaningfully softening and even the

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most respected prognosticators

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have and this is a i think just typo

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here i think distinct or dis you know

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maybe different views

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in terms of what will happen next in

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other words you've got people like me

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who think prices will probably come down

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10 to 20 percent and you got a lot of

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people saying well there's just still

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not enough inventory so we'll probably

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just have a soft landing which is kind

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of exactly what we were told in 2006

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when then fed chair ben bernanke says

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well we've never had home prices come

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down across the board so i probably

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won't have that happen now oops oh wait

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oh

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damn didn't see that one coming okay

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anyway then zillow talks a little bit

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about how they're getting out of

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obviously the i buyer business which is

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where they buy homes and flip them they

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only have 100 homes left to go they've

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almost completely gotten out and if the

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market kind of tanks after this they got

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out at the perfect time and they got a

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lot of hate for what they did the last

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you know a couple earnings reports ago

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but honestly it could end up having been

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a pretty uh smart uh smart move they

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talk about how more people save homes on

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zillow when they have 3d tours this in

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my opinion is kind of obvious though

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because you're more likely to go back to

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the listing more often when there's a 3d

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tour duh

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then they talk about right here they

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still have high occupancy rates in

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rentals and that makes it harder for

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them to make money from landlords who

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want to re-rent properties because they

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offer a rental service and credit

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screening services

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but here they talk about affordability

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challenges with higher mortgage rates

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and we're starting to see early signs

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not only what we heard earlier of

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inventories going up but also earlier

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signs of low rental vacancy issues

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subsiding that would mean we're starting

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to get more properties potentially

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opening up and that could potentially

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for one reason or another helps

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stabilize those rents from continuing to

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just skyrocket and they also talk about

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this deceleration in the real estate

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industry's growth so they they kind of

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stop short of saying like hey we're

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heading towards a crash here

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but they do say that we anticipate

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market headwinds and then they say hey

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you know if

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if there's some terrible storm and the

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market grinds to a halt for a long long

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time you know we could change our views

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but hey um let's just talk about 2025.

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okay

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so what do we what do we glean from this

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well in my opinion what we glean from

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this is really what they didn't tell us

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in relation to what they did tell us hey

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we're starting to see some softening and

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rentals which when you see softening and

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rentals that means you generally get

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less landlords who want to get into the

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rental business because it gets tougher

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right then potentially you get landlords

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who want to get out of the rental

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business which could mean more for sale

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inventory people who want to take

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advantage of a top we're already seeing

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housing inventory trend up we don't know

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if that's seasonal yet so we'll have to

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wait for a little confirmation on that

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but we're still down compared to last

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year so it's still time and then when

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they're basically asked hey like are we

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gonna have a market crash you're like

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well

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you know if there's a terrible storm uh

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we're focused on 2025 uh but yeah yeah

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yeah things are softening but uh hey

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don't worry

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folks

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i think it's obvious

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you should be a little bit concerned

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about the real estate market going

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bit cheaper towards the end of the year

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talk to you soon

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