The Housing Market *JUST* CRASHED | Zillow.
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oh hey everyone i thought i was done
filming for today and you know i may
have just had a shower and gotten
totally blindsided by this report from
zillow and you know things might still
be a little unhinged around here but
holy crap bloomberg just had the
following
of from zillow
and uh in a headline piece here we got
to talk about it a little bit
oh boy here we go all right here it is
dang quote the market is softening the
housing market that is see zillow does
homes full stop says the ceo of zillow
in an interview he says quote i think
the toughest macro lens is that
inventories continue to plummet
flat transactions would be good this
year and i don't know if we will get
there okay this is challenging so we
gotta talk about this and we get a
little bit more color from this excerpt
by going to the earnings call not the
interview the earnings call
so let's jump on over there and try to
understand what zillow's seeing because
it's a good heads up for the housing
market remember zillow is a company that
has a lot of data on us as as individual
searchers from for homes and obviously
one of the first things to get hit uh
you would expect at least
if the housing market was beginning to
slow down would be individuals
willingness or interest in searching for
homes
so let's jump over to the uh earnings
call and see kind of what they've got
compared to expectations now first it's
worth noting that our expectations are
that when
interest rates shoot up four percent
that we would have potentially a 40 drag
down
in purchasing power but of course if you
have excess demand in the amount of 40
you might not actually see home prices
go down at all so that's sort of like
the backdrop of what our expectations
are going in that maybe zillow would
tell us they're starting to see some
forms of uh cracks i mean obviously when
they already say the market is stopping
full s
or softening full stop that's already a
problem and they're talking about tough
macro right so let's jump into the
earnings call here and let's just snoop
around a little bit in the earnings call
so they talk about how inventory is
still in march was down 23 year over
year and remember the last year is uh is
essentially a year that gave us 20 plus
percent across the entire united states
in increased prices which is incredible
however even though inventory levels and
this is one of the big things that
people keep talking about they keep
saying oh well housing prices can't go
down because inventory levels are down
that's true year over year you know if
this right here is march of 21 then you
know maybe over here
i should actually draw it kind of like
this maybe over here is march of 2022.
now now why did i actually draw it with
that little inflection point up ah
that's because take a look at this
new for sale listings were less strained
in march up 36
from feb levels but still down nine
percent year over year so actually we're
probably doing a little bit more like
that trying to get back uh just nine
percent down essentially here from those
march of 2021 levels okay interesting so
kind of seeing a little bit of an
inflection point where maybe inventories
are starting to move up but then again
that could be seasonal right i mean who
lists their home in february that's lame
you sell in march right it could be
entirely seasonal so what else can we
see here transaction value growth trends
are meaningfully softening and even the
most respected prognosticators
have and this is a i think just typo
here i think distinct or dis you know
maybe different views
in terms of what will happen next in
other words you've got people like me
who think prices will probably come down
10 to 20 percent and you got a lot of
people saying well there's just still
not enough inventory so we'll probably
just have a soft landing which is kind
of exactly what we were told in 2006
when then fed chair ben bernanke says
well we've never had home prices come
down across the board so i probably
won't have that happen now oops oh wait
oh
damn didn't see that one coming okay
anyway then zillow talks a little bit
about how they're getting out of
obviously the i buyer business which is
where they buy homes and flip them they
only have 100 homes left to go they've
almost completely gotten out and if the
market kind of tanks after this they got
out at the perfect time and they got a
lot of hate for what they did the last
you know a couple earnings reports ago
but honestly it could end up having been
a pretty uh smart uh smart move they
talk about how more people save homes on
zillow when they have 3d tours this in
my opinion is kind of obvious though
because you're more likely to go back to
the listing more often when there's a 3d
tour duh
then they talk about right here they
still have high occupancy rates in
rentals and that makes it harder for
them to make money from landlords who
want to re-rent properties because they
offer a rental service and credit
screening services
but here they talk about affordability
challenges with higher mortgage rates
and we're starting to see early signs
not only what we heard earlier of
inventories going up but also earlier
signs of low rental vacancy issues
subsiding that would mean we're starting
to get more properties potentially
opening up and that could potentially
for one reason or another helps
stabilize those rents from continuing to
just skyrocket and they also talk about
this deceleration in the real estate
industry's growth so they they kind of
stop short of saying like hey we're
heading towards a crash here
but they do say that we anticipate
market headwinds and then they say hey
you know if
if there's some terrible storm and the
market grinds to a halt for a long long
time you know we could change our views
but hey um let's just talk about 2025.
okay
so what do we what do we glean from this
well in my opinion what we glean from
this is really what they didn't tell us
in relation to what they did tell us hey
we're starting to see some softening and
rentals which when you see softening and
rentals that means you generally get
less landlords who want to get into the
rental business because it gets tougher
right then potentially you get landlords
who want to get out of the rental
business which could mean more for sale
inventory people who want to take
advantage of a top we're already seeing
housing inventory trend up we don't know
if that's seasonal yet so we'll have to
wait for a little confirmation on that
but we're still down compared to last
year so it's still time and then when
they're basically asked hey like are we
gonna have a market crash you're like
well
you know if there's a terrible storm uh
we're focused on 2025 uh but yeah yeah
yeah things are softening but uh hey
don't worry
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