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hey in this video I'm going to tell you

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everything that you need to know on the

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arm IPO maybe you don't even know what

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the heck arm is and don't worry I'll

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break that down for you so we'll start

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with what the heck is this company do

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they actually do AI which is the big

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buzzword these days which by the way is

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perfect timing especially since the CEO

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is going to get a nice 20 million dollar

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check just for getting this IPO done

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that's on top of stock options that are

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going to vest okay these folks are gonna

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make a killing on this IPO this IPO

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could be rivaling some of the money rays

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that we've seen from companies like

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Facebook rivian

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Alibaba and let's just say two of those

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three lost a lot of money so uh walk

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into this one with a little bit of

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caution but I'll also give you my

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opinion on how I think this play

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compares to something like Nvidia why

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not advertise these things that you told

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us here I feel like nobody else knows

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about this we'll try a little

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advertising and see how it goes

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congratulations man you have done so

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much people love you people look up to

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you Kevin financial analyst and YouTuber

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meet Kevin always great to get your take

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all right let's just get started with it

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this is the filing widely anticipated

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filing the arm company okay so what the

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heck is this company well here's their

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prospectus summary but let me just

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simplify this for you okay there are

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these things in computers we need called

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chips no not like Doritos but things

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that process computer information there

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are companies that are called designers

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of chips and designers are going to be

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companies like

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Nvidia really popular designer of these

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chips and then of course somebody has to

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make those chips and that's going to be

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like your Taiwan semiconductors which

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will actually make the chips uh and then

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of course you have companies that Supply

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materials to help make those chips like

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asml that is a company that supplies

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some of the advanced lithography

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machines ultraviolet lithography

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whatever basically fancy machines to

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help make smaller and smaller chips okay

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got it so that's asml that's a Dutch

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company here's Taiwan semi it's a

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Taiwanese company they do somewhere

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around 90 percent of advanced chips in

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the world Nvidia is sort of a chip

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designer and Nvidia in addition to

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designing chips also provides code for

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some of their chips like specifically

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their GPU chips which they use a

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language called cuda okay now how does

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that relate to arm so arm is a language

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provider language okay now this is where

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things could get a little confusing but

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we want to keep this simple okay

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there are basically three types of

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languages x86 and arm these guys go head

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to head all the time okay arm is based

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on a risk framework which this was

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written as risk that's because I think

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the stock might be risky I'll explain

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why but it's actually risc risk five

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anyway so you've got x86 this is your

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1970s 1980s language that Intel founded

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and AMD uses today then you've got arm

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which got really popular because it

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optimizes what you actually need a chip

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for and that is really good for Energy

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Efficiency and so arm became very

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popular for mobile like smartphones

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right now arm helps provide code and

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gets about 50 percent of their revenues

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from smartphones and consumer

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electronics keep that stat in mind

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that'll be important for the whole AI

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thing okay so anyway you got x86 and arm

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kind of like head to head over here with

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these different languages for Designing

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and using chips now I said there were

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three but just focus on those two for a

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moment so you've got arm and then you've

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got x86 and these guys are sort of in a

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battle against each other to get

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designers to use this code so yeah that

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actually means Nvidia in for example the

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Nintendo 6 Tetra uh a CPU central

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processing unit has used arm language to

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make their chips who else uses arms

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language to manufacture their chips

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Samsung Amazon and their AWS their

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graviton AWS chip their Cloud compute

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chip is an Arm based language chip

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Nvidia has used them for many other

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purposes but also Apple the M1 and M2

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chips we keep hearing about those are

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Arm based chips the old a chips that we

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saw for like the iPhone 12. those are

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arm-based the s chips that were in the

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eye watches the Apple watches those were

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Arm based okay so hopefully this adds a

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little bit of clarity so what you have

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is you have this language and everybody

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in Mobility is really using arm these

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days because it's more energy efficient

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and Intel's kind of like crap man we're

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stuck with the x86

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that battle is so important to

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understand because today Intel is seeing

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their revenues do this

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so why would somebody invest in Intel

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well listen to this Intel's gotten so

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smart they're now building new

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fabrication that is facilities where you

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make chips Fabs column they're building

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new fabrication facilities with stimulus

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money from Joe Biden and in those

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facilities guess what kind of chips

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they're going to manufacture remember

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they found an x86 are they going to

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manufacture x86 chips Only Hell No even

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they see the writing on the wall and

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instead Intel will manufacture chips

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that are on based on x86 that

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architecture

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and arm so what you could see is this

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competition for which language to use is

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a big deal

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but arm is the company that came up with

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and uses well it was a partnership back

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in the day in like the 80s Apple was

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actually involved in this but what's

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left over is basically the company arm

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now okay so you got the arm language and

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x86 that's just the lines of code that

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the chip designers are like okay cool

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let's uh let's put silicone together

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like this and what if we stack away for

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like this oh it does better oh let's do

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more of that uh or oh our uh our uh

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enemy over here AMD just came out with a

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and new chip well let's put it

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under an electron uh scanning microscope

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or whatever these folks use and go oh

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that's how they manipulated that

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graphine oh man I'm gonna bring this

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home to my wife tonight okay all right

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you get the idea okay this is all like a

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massively competing industry for chips

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okay everybody wants the best Dorito on

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the Block some people write the language

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some people design the chips some people

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make the chips some people Supply the

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machines that make the chips arm is

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simply and at this point only that it is

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just the language okay now that's really

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important because there is also now

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potentially a third language and that is

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also a it's well it's called risk five

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but arm the r in arm is because it's

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based on risk but risk five because it's

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an open source language risk five is

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sort of this new kid on the Block and

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people are like oh maybe we should use

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this but then companies are like no

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we're going to keep using arm because

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that's what we know how to use okay

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worth knowing though risk five is

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actually a risk to arm it's probably

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small it's probably going to happen over

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time where you see a transition between

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different languages but I think we can

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say with certainty a lot of the x86

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business is going to arm

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or risk five most of it probably going

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to arm right now worth keeping that in

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mind so uh here are just some other

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examples I went through some of these

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Fire TV these are I just wrote some

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notes as I was doing my research on some

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of the things that are arm-based chips

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okay great in fact they go as far as

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saying 70 of the population probably

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uses arm-based products okay that does

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also make me wonder how are you still

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gonna grow if you're already doing that

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much that is also going to become very

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important here in just a moment here's

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some things that I wrote down though

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because artificial intelligence is going

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to be a big deal so what I wrote down is

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there's something to know there's a

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difference between a GPU

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and a CPU arm does a lot of CPU work

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okay this is where arm does a lot of

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work it's not to say they you can't use

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arm for gpus and I'm over simplifying

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this video otherwise this will be like a

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five hour long video

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most of arms work is going to be in the

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CPU those central processing units

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especially for mobile devices so you're

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going to hear a lot about energy saving

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keep that in mind because that's going

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to be a big deal too when we get to some

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of the pros and cons of this company

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Okay so

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CPUs can usually be used for AI

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inference models

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and gpus are usually used for training

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okay now I may have lost it there let me

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just put it this way okay if I said hey

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you're an AI and you need to tell me if

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the face that I'm drawing is a happy

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face or a frowny face and you started

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seeing me draw this what can you infer

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that the face is about to be

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well you're probably like well I mean

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it's starting to curve kind of down so

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it's probably going to be a frowny face

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right you already know that because

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you've already seen a million different

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frowny faces as you've grown up

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throughout your childhood hopefully

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you've also seen an equal amount of

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happy faces okay but the point is you

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know what a frowny face is a frowny face

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understanding what this is the first

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time is really what you're using gpus

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for today it's a training whereas once

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you kind of start drawing and providing

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oh what's it going to be what what oh

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What's it gonna be oh it's going to be

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frowny that's where CPUs come in more

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now don't get me wrong there are highly

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intensive visual applications that will

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require gpus to tell you that this is a

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frowning face think like Tesla

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self-driving will probably be more

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involved in the GPU world this means

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there is somewhere a space for CPUs in

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artificial intelligence

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but it's not entirely clear how

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different that is from just operating

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regular programs on computers today in

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fact what I can tell you is entirely

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clear is that if you wanted to build a

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new language model you would probably do

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it by renting server capacity and this

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is what the server would look like the

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top part of the server would generally

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be a CPU although even Nvidia is trying

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to get into that game right now

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everybody's trying to take everybody's

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bread okay this shouldn't be a surprise

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okay keep in mind I'm a licensed

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financial advisor and even though I

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can't give you personal financial advice

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it's my job to tell you you need to make

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sure how to get more bread in your life

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that's everyone's goal that's why we're

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here everybody wants more bread okay

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that's fair so the CPU might be at the

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top and let's say we're going to throw

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in an AMD CPU at the top of the server

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rack guess what the next 10 items in

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this server rack are well more often

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than not now they are Nvidia h100s

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though there are other weaker models

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that do good enough for most AI things

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that people probably need you probably

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don't need the latest and greatest but

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just to show you the latest and greatest

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Nvidia is probably about a thirty

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thousand dollar chip for each one of

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these lines right here in a server stack

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and that AMD CPU is probably about 15

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grand so if you add this up you're

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looking at about 15 grand to 300 Grand

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in income so in case you're wondering

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why Nvidia has gone to the moon it's

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probably because of this now they've got

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earnings coming up they're always going

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to have earnings coming up this video is

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not to speculate on Nvidia earnings I've

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got a position in Nvidia I want to be

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clear about that obviously I don't have

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a position in arm because it's not

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public yet my position isn't massive in

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Nvidia I think it's gotten a little

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ahead of itself though I'll tell you if

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they can prove that they're not a flash

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in the pan Nvidia is going to be a great

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investment and and I'll explain more

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about what I mean with the Flash and the

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pan problem in just a moment but again

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the whole point of this is to say if

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you're doing language work for this part

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on AI servers

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you're probably missing where the real

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money is you see what I mean and where's

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who's Pro what's the programming

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language here it's Cuda okay and who

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owns Cuda it's Nvidia again I I prom I'm

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not trying to chill in video I would

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love to have other stocks I'm just

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looking at this like oh man people are

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gonna hype this up like it's a Nvidia uh

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you know play uh on uh like an

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alternative to Nvidia and personally I

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think that could end up being a mistake

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now I'm open to your commentary in the

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comments but we got a lot more to cover

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okay so let's look at some more some

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more notes here right ready for this so

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arm right now says they want to get into

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Data Centers so the CPU strategy of

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getting into Data Centers you have to

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kind of think okay who's the data center

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world for AI right now well maybe you

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could do big data like palantir or

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snowflake or of course your OG names the

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Google the Microsoft the Amazon right

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that's great but how different is this

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new amount of money that uh arm wants to

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raise now from what they've been doing

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for Amazon's Cloud compute so you

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remember what an IPO is an IPO is not an

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opportunity for you to get rich as an

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investor an IPO is an opportunity for

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the Insiders to finally dump their

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shares on you this is why usually IPOs

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are not a great thing to invest in I

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generally stay away from IPOs and even

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though I've been saying that for years I

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still have taken a bite on some IPOs

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only to get burned and learn my lesson

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so I'm I'm a little jaded when it comes

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to IPS just gonna throw that out there

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now it's also worth noting that hey ai's

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been great but how much has it really

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boosted our world's productivity these

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days my take is

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potentially somewhere around 10 percent

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maybe 15 if you use some of the

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strategies that we talk about in my

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courses on building your wealth where we

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integrate here's how to actually use AI

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to be productive but okay is it really

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like revolutionary is everybody really

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waking up going oh my gosh is AI no of

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course not because the reality is AI has

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been

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big data and neural Nets they've existed

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for 10 plus years in fact we've been

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working on our own artificial

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intelligence for a real estate startup

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for four or five years we just sort of

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keep evolving it and this whole AI craze

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in March changed nothing so it's kind of

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like yeah okay you found a sexy way to

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label AI it's one of the concerns I have

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for NVIDIA okay it's actually why I'm

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not kind of going like oh let's go all

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in on a video right like there's a

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little bit of gun shyness that I have

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and I actually think there'll be better

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opportunities to buy Nvidia in the

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future and I'll explain why okay so now

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we understand a little bit about uh this

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this arm versus CPU GPU thing uh now

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what we should do is understand a little

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bit about where this money is going to

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go because they want to raise you know

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about 10 billion dollars would be nice

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and so why do they want to raise money

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well they tell you here that developing

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Leading Edge chips is getting

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exponentially more expensive Ah that's

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actually going to be a red flag keep in

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mind this company tells us that 80 of

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their staff is sitting in research and

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development to design a seven nanometer

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chip the company spent about a quarter

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of a billion dollars to design a two

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nanometer chip they spent about three

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times that so this is where they talk

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about this exponential growth in costs

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ah so why do you want an IPO well

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because you're probably at the peak AI

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hype cycle and it's a perfect time to

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dump on the normies okay I'm sorry I

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don't want to sound like bearish maybe

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this thing will go to the Moon I'm just

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saying if if I were uh you know one of

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the executives over at arm and I was

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calling up my buddies over at SoftBank

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which is not a bank it's a Japanese

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investment firm be like hey everybody's

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you know losing sleep over how great AI

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is and how revolutionary it is you know

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it's it's amazing amazing uh how about

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we just IPO now it's the perfect time to

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do it remember this is a company worth

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noting this is a company that was

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acquired for between 31 to 32 billion

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dollars in 2016 by SoftBank

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SoftBank not a bank remember that agreed

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to sell this company in 2020 to Nvidia

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for guess how much

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they agreed to sell it for 40 billion

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dollars that was in 2020 2021-ish but

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the deal fell apart because the FTC sued

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and Regulators got involved it would

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have just been too big uh like Nvidia

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would have just gotten too big now

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they're kind of like okay well forget

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about that 40 billion dollar valuation

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when everybody was printing money now

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that everybody's so hyped up on AI why

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don't we try to sell it at a 60 to 70

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billion dollar valuation oh yeah baby

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give me those dandies this way SoftBank

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can exit with a sweet sexy double now

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you can't blame them I mean nobody's

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gonna blame anybody for for making money

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but what I did think was interesting

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going through the filing and everything

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I say in this video you should assume is

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an opinion because I can't remember

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every I spent like two or three hours on

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this I could be making a mistake on some

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of this so just use some of this as an

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inspiration for you to go through the

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information yourself in other words arm

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and soft don't sue me bro anyway

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SoftBank has basically carved out a

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little exception for themselves

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here's what's going on usually when a

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company IPOs there's something known as

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a lockup for example everyone on the

19:32

inside like all these r d people who

19:34

have been getting stock based comp for

19:37

years or decades are finally like yeah

19:40

baby my ship is coming in we're gonna

19:42

get rich off the IPO and we're gonna

19:45

sell those shares as soon as we can

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maybe

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and those folks would be able to do so

19:51

usually within about 180 days so in

19:54

other words you IPO and you kind of have

19:56

to wait six months for the market to

19:58

settle down and then people on the

19:59

inside can start selling except for

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SoftBank SoftBank at least based on what

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I saw only has about a 60 day lock up

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that is because they wrote in their

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lockup expires 60 days after a public

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offering interesting okay so a lot lower

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in other words SoftBank can get out

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before the Insiders okay interesting

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what else I noticed is that SoftBank

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then said and this is what I thought was

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really interesting maybe it's normal

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softbank's got a bunch of debt remember

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they're not a bank they're an investment

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firm and basically what they're going to

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do is they're going to pledge eight and

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a half billion dollars of their shares

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as collateral to basically borrow

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against all right that's a whole lot of

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words let me put it this way the IPO is

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expected to raise 10 billion dollars

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SoftBank owns a ton of shares tied up by

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this uh you know lock-up agreement of 60

20:54

days or whatever but they're basically

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going to take a loan out on day one and

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if the stock tanks the bank that gave

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the loan can liquidate the shares right

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away so in other words SoftBank gets

21:08

their money right away on a loan if the

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shares tank then the bank can Margin

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Call SoftBank right away to cover the

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bills basically so if it tanked on IPO

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day the lockup agreement means nothing

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those shares start getting dumped to the

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tune of eight and a half billion dollars

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now I don't actually think the shares

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will tank on day one mostly because

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quite frankly it is now the job of the

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executives at this company to market the

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snot out of this company you're gonna

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see banners from this company about how

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great this IPO is how you should invest

21:42

in this IPO how you should invest in the

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next generation of AI chips and arm 9

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and all the latest and greatest crap

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from them but the reality is when you go

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through their documents there are some

21:55

more problems uh okay let's get into

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some more of the problems here and then

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we're actually going to get into some of

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the revenue okay let's get to some of

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the juice you ready for some of the

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take a look at this all right these are

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some of my initial thoughts that I wrote

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down this has to be marketed uh in my

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opinion if Nvidia misses on earnings

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either Q2 Q3 Q4 it doesn't matter when

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any Nvidia Miss is probably bad for the

22:32

entire industry and Nvidia beat is going

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to be good for arm not because arm is

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necessarily going to capitalize like

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Nvidia but it's just going to reignite

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the whole Ai fomo and AI fomo is going

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to be perfect I guarantee you all of the

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executives that arm are like come on

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baby come on and video

22:51

it okay all right now it's worth noting

22:55

that about 24.5 of revenues come from

22:58

China from this company but what's a

23:01

little scary about this here's the

23:03

segment section by the way 40 from the

23:05

US what's a little scary about the 24.5

23:08

that comes from China is that the part

23:10

that comes from China is basically only

23:14

determined based on what China tells

23:17

them listen to this there's a whole

23:19

section you can look this up it's on

23:21

page 89 too bad it's not on 69. anyway

23:23

performance of armed China okay we

23:26

depend on arm China for basically a

23:28

quarter of our Revenue okay and this

23:30

company gets licensing Revenue I didn't

23:33

even mention that yet they don't make

23:34

chips they just get royalties from the

23:37

code they wrote we go we wrote the best

23:39

code and everybody uses it well I don't

23:42

think it's going to get replaced anytime

23:43

soon maybe there could be a gradual

23:45

transition to open source but honestly a

23:48

lot of people used arm it's good code

23:50

it's good technology I'm not gonna bag

23:52

on that do I really think it's like the

23:54

next AI Wonder no of course not uh but

23:58

then again nothing really is me except

23:59

for maybe Nvidia if they could pull off

24:01

the amount of server sales that they're

24:02

talking about okay so what is this right

24:05

here so here they say they're dependent

24:08

on China armed China right but listen to

24:12

this I'm just going to read you this

24:13

okay ready for this

24:15

all right here it is under our

24:17

partnership agreement armed China's

24:20

payments do to us our determined based

24:23

on the financial information that armed

24:26

China provides to us accordingly we are

24:29

dependent on armed China providing us

24:31

with reliable And Timely financial

24:33

information

24:34

in other words if there are any issues

24:37

in China and China's lying to us we

24:40

would have no idea

24:43

okay given that a quarter of your

24:45

revenue is based on we have no idea

24:49

it's a little bit of a red flag to me

24:51

okay furthermore in light of these

24:53

issues we expect to continue to see

24:56

declining royalty revenues derived from

24:58

the People's Republic of China and we

25:01

could see declining and Licensing

25:02

revenues in other words a of their

25:04

business they think is shrinking so part

25:07

of me is

25:08

like trying to like

25:09

jump out of the ship or something like

25:11

that I don't know anywho let's keep

25:13

going here so this arm thing is a risk

25:15

all right they talked about 30 billion

25:18

of a arm-based chips shipped last year

25:21

that's not all their revenue right

25:23

because they just get royalty on that

25:26

right so even if you had a million AI

25:29

chips that shipped that would be one one

25:33

thousandth uh of of the 30 billion a

25:36

million dollars of AI chips right that'd

25:38

be one one thousandth of the companies

25:40

30 billion now if you had a billion

25:43

dollars great that'd be one thirtieth my

25:46

point is NVIDIA expects to ship 7

25:49

billion dollars of AI related data

25:54

center chips per quarter that's about 28

25:57

billion per year that actually means

25:59

there could be a real upside here if

26:02

they could actually really ship

26:05

uh AI chips but I'm not really seeing

26:08

that yet so I want to be clear here

26:11

because that might be a little confusing

26:12

there is real potential upside if they

26:15

can convert their pipeline to really

26:19

amazing top producing AI chips but wait

26:22

a minute wait a minute

26:24

they're not making the chips

26:27

that was the whole point of that little

26:28

setup I just played I'm sorry I set you

26:31

up I built you up just to tear you down

26:33

they don't design the chips they do the

26:36

code and somebody else does the chips

26:40

they literally say in their investor

26:43

relations document we rely on our

26:46

customers too design manufacture and

26:49

sell quote unquote chips

26:53

so really

26:55

even if you sell 28 billion dollars of

26:57

AI chips in a year

26:59

arm just gets royalty revenues on them

27:02

so a percentage as a thank you for using

27:04

the code but if that code is actually

27:06

using Cuda and Nvidia or something else

27:10

and is this code being used for gpus

27:13

nominally it's mostly used for CPUs and

27:18

that's really important to remember now

27:20

do keep in mind they do talk about

27:22

potential GPU deployments in fact they

27:25

talk about arm gpus so they exist it's

27:30

just not a primary product see it says

27:32

right here our primary product offerings

27:34

are leading CPU products

27:36

complementary products are gpus

27:40

all right good fine so uh and here's by

27:44

the way where it says that 80 of their

27:46

employees Global employees are focused

27:48

on R and D uh worth noting and their

27:51

revenue was relatively flat but that's

27:53

okay because the whole chip industry has

27:55

somewhat slowed down so I'm not like

27:56

horribly worried about their revenue

27:58

down one percent gross profit year over

28:00

year eight point eight percent external

28:02

year or um external Revenue year over

28:05

year that's not a big deal the whole

28:07

chip industry has slowed down uh not so

28:09

worried about that uh at about 50 cents

28:12

in earnings per share if this company

28:15

IPOs at the valuation we think it will

28:17

around maybe you know 60 to 70 billion

28:19

bucks uh maybe 60 ish dollars per share

28:23

that puts you around 120 times earnings

28:26

because it's a software company this is

28:29

an insane valuation for a company that

28:31

actually expects to kagger compounded

28:34

annual rate of growth for their compute

28:36

business grow at 15 percent

28:38

okay that's really really expensive I

28:41

mean you're talking about over a three

28:43

peg here for those of you keeping track

28:45

Nvidia trading at a lot lower peg in

28:48

fact let's go ahead and pull up the

28:50

Nvidia Peg just so you can compare for a

28:52

moment the Nvidia evaluation so remember

28:55

that Peg is priced to earnings growth

28:58

let me pull this up for you okay so this

29:01

right here is nvidia's latest quarterly

29:03

document uh you can see their revenue

29:06

year over year is actually down 13 this

29:08

whole industry has gone through a

29:09

correction so it is not surprising to

29:11

see some negatives here we talked about

29:13

the h100 revenue if that h100 ordering

29:16

is a flash in the pan Nvidia gets

29:18

screwed however if Nvidia starts growing

29:21

at 50 percent oh it's gonna be juicy why

29:26

because right now the stock market Wall

29:29

Street consensus is that Nvidia is going

29:31

to make over eight dollars per share

29:33

this year over eight dollars per share

29:35

puts them at about a 57 price to

29:38

earnings ratio which is about half of

29:40

the arm price to earnings ratio

29:42

with a 25 growth factor which is about

29:45

80 more than arms they're in about a 2.3

29:48

Peg so you have like a three peg for arm

29:50

2.3 Peg for NVIDIA but if Nvidia is not

29:55

a flash in the pan with the h100s and

29:57

they start growing at 30 40 50 this Peg

30:01

could go all the way down to one which

30:03

means Nvidia stock could double there's

30:06

some real potential Nvidia

30:09

or it's a flash in the pan we'll find

30:10

out over the next probably year as the

30:12

earnings come in so that's why I wrote

30:14

at the bottom the danger is The Flash

30:16

and the pan for NVIDIA Nvidia does have

30:18

about three to four times the revenue

30:20

that arm does three to four times the

30:22

free cash flow that arm does uh but

30:24

let's be fair to arm here arm does have

30:27

good free cash flow I can't take that

30:30

away from them and they're well

30:31

capitalized they've got about 3.2

30:34

billion dollars in current assets versus

30:36

2.8 billion in total deaths this is

30:39

great it's actually very good 675

30:43

million of free cash flow no borrowing

30:45

no dividends they don't plan to do any

30:47

dividends just keep in mind a lot of

30:49

employees are probably going to end up

30:51

dumping shares once they are able to do

30:53

so okay what else do we have here oh boy

30:57

I'm telling you I spent way too long on

30:59

this okay I'm gonna need like an AI beer

31:01

or something after this

31:03

all right so we got a lot of information

31:04

here oh okay I'm sorry their cloud

31:06

kagger is expected to be 16.6 I think I

31:09

said 15 whatever but the growth is

31:12

really unclear for AI and they talk a

31:15

lot about energy saving for servers

31:18

their pitch goes something like this hi

31:21

everyone we did really great with energy

31:23

saving and chips for things like watches

31:26

and smartphones so uh let us help you

31:28

save on energy costs for your serversal

31:33

it's not really like hey we have the

31:36

best AI technology that's going to make

31:38

your servers better it's just going to

31:40

make them more energy efficient is the

31:43

idea in fact they actually say that

31:46

right here in the graviton data center

31:50

chip they don't talk about how it's

31:53

better they talk about Better Price

31:56

performance over comparable x86 systems

32:00

that's basically incorporating the price

32:03

of the code the chip

32:07

and the energy consumption now I know

32:10

that's not super clear but let me just

32:12

put it this way after having gone

32:13

through this this company talks about

32:15

the energy saving aspects of the arm

32:18

Orchestra architecture more than they

32:20

talk about artificial intelligence so

32:22

maybe they're trying to go for a high

32:23

ESG score which maybe that's realistic

32:27

that's the thing like maybe maybe we

32:29

shouldn't be expecting them to be like

32:31

oh we're really I play we should be

32:33

expecting them be no like forget about

32:36

AI for a moment maybe AI is a flash in

32:39

the pan in which case who has the best

32:42

potential technology for mobile chips

32:44

well hands down its arm who has the best

32:47

potential technology and and code

32:50

technology for CPUs in servers and

32:53

computers and otherwise

32:55

it's arm sorry Intel I know Intel chips

32:58

x86 are good too but they're just not as

33:01

good as the risk-based chips at this

33:04

point maybe that'll change Intel's not

33:06

going to try to give up on their x86 and

33:08

those are some risks right x86 from

33:11

Intel could start being a lot stronger

33:13

or better or whatever or companies like

33:16

AMD could start switching to an open

33:19

source version of risk language writing

33:22

which then removes the royalty revenues

33:25

that arm gets remember they're just

33:27

writing the code for these chips all

33:29

right what else I do not believe that

33:31

Tesla uses arm for their self-driving uh

33:35

Tesla I believe uses their own code but

33:37

they probably do have arm and some other

33:39

generic uh chips so that's worth

33:41

watching

33:43

uh personally before investing in arm I

33:46

wrote down that I would let this get

33:47

through the first six months of lock-ups

33:49

so that way the executives could dump

33:51

SoftBank could dump you get rid of the

33:54

Margin Call risk which would be a huge

33:56

downside uh you get rid of the employees

33:59

dumping and in the meantime as everyone

34:03

else buys arm because they don't

34:05

actually do their DD which is fine maybe

34:08

they'll make a lot more money than I'm

34:09

going to on this and you know what

34:11

I hope you do I am happy for other

34:13

people to make money but uh you know I

34:17

think as people throw money at arm

34:18

they'll actually be a buying opportunity

34:20

and the other competitors like AMD

34:22

Nvidia Intel

34:24

I don't care okay I really don't care

34:26

what you buy uh okay so uh they do

34:29

mention they have some limited customer

34:31

risk that might be apple they don't

34:33

specifically say but like 30 of their

34:35

accounts receivable as of the second

34:37

quarter uh so ending like June 30th

34:39

we're from One customer they didn't say

34:42

which one and then the next biggest

34:43

customer was slightly under 10. uh they

34:46

emphasize sustainable growth probably

34:49

because they're realistic about AI not

34:51

exploding growth that's actually

34:53

probably a good thing I don't need a

34:55

flash in the pan investment okay I want

34:56

something that's going to do well for a

34:58

long term so like I don't want to sound

34:59

too bearish because ai's probably flash

35:01

in the pan but they are going to Brand

35:03

this as an AI

35:05

Nvidia is the only one that might not

35:07

end up being a flash in the pan for AI

35:08

right maybe you could argue uh the

35:12

Microsoft Google's Amazon's I'm not

35:14

convinced okay anyway

35:16

SoftBank doesn't necessarily align with

35:18

your interest right of course softbank's

35:19

gonna dump out of this so they can go on

35:20

to uh other Investments this 60 day is

35:24

actually asterisk because of their

35:25

margin loan I found out about that later

35:27

because it's obviously in a different

35:29

part of the report which is annoying 50

35:31

of the revenue comes from smartphones

35:33

and consumer electronics we already know

35:35

that section is going through a downturn

35:37

uh say you know I mean just look up

35:39

iPhone 15 sales expectations there are

35:42

any warnings for weakness on this side

35:44

right multiple references to

35:47

decarbonization it's it's ESG promoting

35:49

is what it is uh big bonuses tied to the

35:52

IPO price specifically whatever price

35:54

they get on this IPO probably increases

35:57

what the executives are being paid in

36:00

addition to the CEO getting 20 mil just

36:02

cause

36:03

uh right this is technically a British

36:06

company okay we talked here some more

36:08

percentages fine whatever okay so uh

36:11

what else did I write down I wrote over

36:13

here oh a little bit of History how

36:15

Nvidia tried to uh acquire this company

36:18

and I think as far as asterisks that was

36:22

sort of the bulk of it oh they did ask

36:25

asterisk Taiwan as well as a potential

36:28

risk factor war with China okay

36:32

that was an insane amount of talking and

36:35

I'm just gonna bottom line this for you

36:37

is this an AI play I don't think so

36:40

is AI a flash in a pan probably except

36:44

for NVIDIA though we will determine if

36:46

the Nvidia flash on the pan is a flash

36:48

in the pan over the next few earning

36:50

Cycles I have absolutely no idea I just

36:53

know if somebody's gonna make a crapload

36:55

of money from this AI Revolution it's

36:56

gonna be Nvidia how long that lasts I

36:59

have no idea because here's the reality

37:01

maybe everybody bought AI chips in q1

37:05

because everybody wanted Ai and then all

37:07

of a sudden Google Amazon and Microsoft

37:09

are like oh no our AI usage from our

37:11

customers is actually falling off a

37:13

cliff all right let's cancel some of the

37:15

Nvidia orders we had well if people

37:17

start canceling some of the Nvidia

37:19

orders they have

37:20

yeah nvidia's gonna dump it's gonna dump

37:23

so fast

37:24

and quite frankly ask yourself how often

37:27

are you using AI on a daily basis

37:29

probably very little maybe because you

37:31

have learned productive ways to use it

37:33

on a daily basis like I use it on a

37:35

daily basis but that's okay uh we teach

37:37

that in the the how to make more money

37:39

and get shnit done faster course link

37:41

down below but anyway look

37:44

bottom line arm IPO

37:47

I would not touch it until at least six

37:50

months after

37:51

second that Chinese revenue is gonna get

37:54

destroyed especially with China's

37:55

economy going to crap and I just don't

37:57

trust it I don't have the transparency

37:59

into that and I know SoftBank is gonna

38:01

dump on you because they want to get

38:02

their money out of this they tried

38:04

getting their money out with uh Nvidia

38:05

now they think they can strike it big on

38:07

the AI hype and I think

38:09

it's kind of like brilliant for them but

38:12

it pisses me off because I feel like

38:13

it's just sort of taking advantage of

38:14

the hype cycle but then again if you

38:16

were in their shoes you would do the

38:17

same damn thing

38:19

you can't blame them

38:21

so

38:22

um wouldn't touch it for six months I

38:24

want to see growth expectations want to

38:25

see what happens with China want to see

38:27

what happens with Nvidia I'm actually

38:28

not convinced that they're going to be

38:30

around forever because open source

38:32

technology means companies can kind of

38:33

get rid of them and then not have to pay

38:35

royalties to them if Nvidia can make it

38:37

in like a Nintendo switch Tetra chip

38:39

without arm and then they use risk five

38:43

now they don't pay royalties oh come on

38:46

man even if that's like 10 that bumps

38:48

margins bro

38:50

I'm sorry this was so long if you found

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it useful consider subscribing I'll see

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38:57

here I feel like nobody else knows about

38:59

this we'll try a little advertising and

39:01

see how it goes congratulations man you

39:03

have done so much people love you people

39:04

look up to you okay financial analyst

39:07

and YouTuber meet Kevin always great to

39:09

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