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hey everyone me Kevin here we need to
talk about the Tesla miss this morning
and the first reaction that a lot of
folks had was don't worry even though
right now Tesla has had its first sales
decline in over 10 years with a 1%
decline in sales
volume things are going to get better in
2025 with the release of a lower cost
production vehicle now while in this
video I want to talk about the stock
price and the valuation what Wall Street
is reacting with what we think for
earnings I really want to start by
addressing that claim the claim is that
okay we're going to have a lower cost
vehicle coming out in
2025 and the first thing that I like to
do is I like to evaluate where is that
claim coming from so that way we could
address the likelihood of that happening
uh and so I know exactly where that
claim is coming from the claim is coming
from well Tesla itself see if you look
at the Tesla investor relations page and
you look at their shareholder deck
you'll find this section right here this
is the q1 2024 shareholder deck and
you're going to see I'm going to show
you q1 Q2 and Q3 those are the last
three shareholder decks we have in 2023
we did not get any mentions of this but
we did in 1 2 and 3 and they changed
take a look at this so read this line
here for a second here I'll hide myself
for a
second okay I'll read it to you we have
updated our future vehicle lineup to
accelerate the launch of new models
ahead of our previously communicated
start of production in the second half
of 25 okay got it so new vehicles 2025
sounds cool lower cost Vehicles that's
great what do they say in the next uh
press releases well they say the
following plans for new vehicles
including more affordable models remain
models with an S remain on track for the
start of production in the first half of
2025 aha wait but this says second half
yes they got more optimistic they moved
up the production of these more
affordable models okay interesting so
what are more affordable models well
they could be one of two things one they
could be the rooc cab well actually they
could be one of three things they could
be the rooc cab Robo taxi they could be
a $225,000 nonfully autonomous vehicle
or they could be cheaper existing models
of vehicles right here's the Q3 one
where they say the same thing plans for
new vehicles including more affordable
models uh remain on track for production
in the first half of 2025 okay so
remember the three three options that we
have here here it could be a rooc cab it
could be a cheaper existing models we'll
call it uh or a new model entirely not
fully
autonomous okay but wait a minute it
says more affordable well the current
most affordable vehicle let's go to
tesla.com and find it uh it's what in
the lower 30,000 right so let's go to a
model 3 let's get the order now let's
take out things like gas savings or
whatever cash
$229,999 remove the gas savings eh
current more affordable model is about
424 okay interesting so if we're about
424 right now uh let's write we would
have to have less expensive Vehicles
basically than that uh under
$42,000 now that's possible Right all
three of these things are possible this
could be metion in the robo taxi product
cheaper existing models just lowering
prices basically vehicle deflation which
is probably likely especially since
we're seeing some sale numbers come down
here and a new model entirely not uh uh
not entirely
fully not entirely fully autonomous
under
$42,000 that would any of these three
things would fulfill the promise now the
question is could it potentially be the
$25,000 vehicle versus the robo taxi
well for this we could go to the Q3 2024
Tesla Financial results and let's listen
to Elon talk about exactly that so um so
anyway there's like basically I think
having a regular 25k model is pointless
yeah it would be silly like it would be
completely at us with what we believe in
in in a town this world what matters is
the lowest cost per mile of of of
efficiency of that vehicle and that's
what we've done with with the Rope taxi
exactly Aon it's fully considered cost
per mile
um is what matters and if you try to
make a car that
is you
know
essentially a hybrid
manual automatic cards it's it's not
going to be as good as a dedicated
autonomous car um
so yeah Cy cab is is just not going to
have steering wheels and paddles it's
designed optimized for
autonomy now
it'll it'll it'll you know cost on the
order of cost roughly 25k so it is a 25k
car and you can you will be able to buy
one on it exclus exclusively if you
want
so just what have
Ste you don't need it all right got it
so this gives us a little bit more
clarity because now we can go over here
and we could say all right so it's not
going to be
this will not be 25k because that would
be pointless right so I suppose this
leaves open the door to a you know maybe
30 to 40K vehicle
right but this would likely in my
opinion okay just my opinion just be a
cheaper model 3 especially as the $7,500
tax credit expires which actually is
somewhat surprising to me because you
know the the $7,500 tax credit Donald
Trump one of the first things that he
said once he got elected with Elon
musk's support is that they're going to
kill the $7,500 electrical Electric
Vehicle tax credit I was convinced that
was going to mean we are going to see a
uh rapid acceleration of Tesla sales
because people are basically going to
want to buy the dip before the coupon
code expires so to
speak uh
should I mention
it okay yes yes we have a New Year's
coupon code over at Meek kevin.com you
you could join me in the courses on
building your wealth and everything on
trumponomics best course right now if
you want to know like with the amount of
new content that's planned for that
course you want to be in it uh the price
is only going to go up this year as I
keep releasing new content but it's it's
really good and here's a picture of me
with my cyber truck which by the way
this cyber truck like you saw that
explosion that happened yesterday Trump
attack uh the Trump Tower Vegas attack
uh apparently a military uh vet very
very sad killed himself you know with a
Bed full of basically gas and fireworks
and stuff uh shocking but it really just
like it was so strong it really didn't
cause a lot of damage it didn't break
any glass at Trump Tower it just
absorbed all the blast seems like most
of the blast actually went inside of the
cabin sucks for the guy uh and and then
up but this is an example of my uh cyber
cab or cyber cab cyber truck and uh I
really enjoy the utility of this and I
really like I'm going to you know what
I'm going to buy like right now another
one of these partitions because they're
so useful uh I just I like I can't
stress enough I I don't think I've I've
bragged about a car this much but I
really like the cybertruck it's really
really good I do miss my model X the
model X7 seat version is a scam though
don't get it because your your trunk
room goes to zero if you are a family
and you need
space uh the max you could really do
with a Tesla is two kids because don't
don't think you 7 seats going to work
cuz you won't fit a stroller in the back
it sucks uh it's pretty much true for
all the cars so just assume two kids two
adults Max you know after that you
really got to get into the van world or
sprinters anyway I wish they would come
out with a larger vehicle but anyway uh
these uh the accessories they have for
these are great uh and uh I know I'm
going on a little bit of a tangent over
here right now I don't even know where I
can find the accessories right now I
know they put all these crazy like
pictures and stuff over here but um the
vehicle really is phenomenal it it
drives well it's comfortable to drive
and I also really like that it's higher
up off the ground and what's really
remarkable is I got Lauren to start
using the um what's it called um let me
just see if I can add this to a cart or
something and go shopping in the store I
can't find
it oh well uh this should make it easier
here Tesla cybertruck accessories anyway
I got Lauren to finally start using the
uh Model S which is she loves it so it
took a while to actually get her to
really love it um and and want to drive
it because she was always sort of afraid
of like oh it's a Tesla I don't know but
honestly now she's kind of like nah man
yeah this is actually really good so
like people are slowly starting to learn
how great it is uh anywh who uh oh this
is really cool cooler in the front H
this by the way is great I will say this
is fantastic I put my golf clubs in here
the unde ones it's like perfect little
tray back there anyway I'm totally off
tangent or off off um topic here so
let's get back to topic so rooc
cab is an option we we know this is
going to be about uh yes we know for
sure this will be more affordable than
42k so we know this with
certainty we know that it's not going to
be we know with certainty it's not going
to be a $25,000 vehicle so we might be
talking about cheaper existing vehicles
or the rooc cabs in this disclosure here
right which with the $7,500 vehicle tax
credit expiring new models going into
production the only thing we've heard
about new models going into production
so far has been the rooc cab because
during we robot Elon Musk said that we
should be at mass production quote
before 2027 which means entering
production in 2025 and then Mass
producing in 2026 you know before
2027 uh and he calls this optimistic but
that's basically what he's outlined so I
think this is really interesting because
I I do think that as a Tesla investor
you really have to recognize that yes
this is a company that is betting the
farm basically I shouldn't say the farm
because that sounds bad but you have to
remember what Elon says and I I was
talking about this this morning in the
course member live stream because we did
a we're starting to do the course member
live stream as the market open live
stream I apologize about that I just
there's so much going on in my life I
just had to consolidate back to just
doing one live stream in the morning uh
so if you want to be a part of it
meetkevin.com you pay once you get
lifetime access but uh what I talked
with course members about is I said if
you don't believe in fd's ability to
handle fully autonomous don't buy the
stock that's not my line that's Elon uh
Tesla talk that's Elon musk's line and
that's because this new model that
they're talking about in my opinion has
just been a tease for the rooc cab all
along all along these three quarters
have just been a te's for the rooc cab
and and I'm not saying that's a bad
thing you know in fact they kind of gave
you like a nice heads up that it was
coming what day were were these earnings
Q I think it was like October 17th or
something like that Q3 2024 Tesla
earnings it was
October 23rd oh okay close yeah and wi
robot was 1010 so that's all pretty
fresh
information so now that leaves you with
the question of okay well what happened
with the decline in production here well
there are a few things that happened
first of all you had flat sales in the
United States you had Europe down 14%
year-over-year Europe's basically in a
recession and this is very different
from the sovereign debt crisis where
everybody might remember uh pigs if you
don't remember this it's a really
derogatory thing that was used back in
2011 to about
2014 and the definition was uh Portugal
Italy Greece Spain were so heavy in debt
that countries like Germany and France
were having to bail them out that was
the thesis then well now all of a sudden
you look and you're like
bro Germany and France are lagging
Germany and France the the leaders are
now potentially in recession especially
Germany so it's not a surprise that
European sales are down 14% year-over
year but remember the European sales
only make up about 14.8% of Tesla's
total sales China's closer to like 22%
so China beats Europe by a lot but but
China is also facing a lot of byd
competition byd grew their total sales
by 41.4% plugin hybrids of that 301,000
but pure battery 207,000 vehicles in
China that's that's pretty good pretty
good number it's still not like what
Tesla's selling I mean Tesla if Tesla's
doing about 22% there they're still
beating byd by about a factor of two
even in China CH but when it comes to
Pure electric vehicles but uh I mean
you're selling quite a bit uh and the
growth is pretty phenomenal for byd
Warren Buffett invests in byd he's got
about a 6% stake of his portfolio uh in
by most of his portfolio is Apple for
the dividend and Bank of America and
American Express honestly American
Express and apple are pretty good
companies I don't like Bank of America
but anyway so then it got me wondering
okay why why are we not seeing maybe
just a more affordable version where
people would have the choice to buy a
second vehicle with a smaller battery
pack Lauren has you know 312 miles of
range in the model S and I've got I
think like 305 in the Cyber truck do we
really both need 300 miles no because
all it does is Lauren just doesn't
charge your car but maybe like once
every 10 or 15 days because she only
drives like 15 miles a day so she just
uses the battery that she's carrying
around for not having to plug it in
which is fine because we don't have a
driveway and that's kind of convenient
for us anyway but if we had a driveway
in a place to park it and plug it in
every day great that'd be
cool but one of the things that I got to
thinking about is why don't they
introduce a lower cost or or a smaller
lower cost Tesla with a smaller battery
pack like something that you know let's
say one of your cars is a 300 mile range
car and you're a two income household so
you have two cars with kids or whatever
your second car ends up being like a 75
mile range car and you end up paying I
don't know $20,000 like a dirt cheap
Tesla like an iPhone C you know or
whatever I think it's because most of
Tesla's margin is actually in selling
you the battery think about this lithium
prices have absolutely collapsed from
the insanity of Co and I don't think
they actually want to draw give you a
smaller battery pack because I think
most of the manufacturing margin is
actually buried in the battery pack in
other words maybe they're making the
pack for 1,000 bucks they're selling it
to you for 6K that's 5K a profit well 5K
a profit on on a you know $35,000 sale
is already 15% margin now I'm not saying
that is exactly how it plays out I'm I'm
I'm exaggerating here I'm just saying I
think that one of the reasons why you're
not getting smaller packs is because
that's where all the margin is buried
you know otherwise like you're not
putting margin really on labor or the
you know aluminum or the iron or
whatever so I think that's very
interesting now with that said uh that
would be an option for a lower cost
vehicle but we just we haven't seen that
from them as well now I will say FSD is
pretty good uh I I like version 13 I
have the latests uh Ross doesn't like it
Ross just tweeted says uh not to mention
driving FSD 13 yesterday in Venice can't
even come close to the ability of wh
wh's everywhere and I have to disengage
FSD constantly was a hectic day of
tourists however no excuses FSD is not
close so that's Ross Gerber's
take um it is true wayos are expanding
pretty rapidly but they're also a very
different system right lar based versus
Tesla's pure Vision
based but uh uh something else that's
very interesting for Tesla though out of
these earnings and I want to talk about
what Wall Street was talking about as
well is that we we had a you know 20%
growth in the gigawatt hours of energy
production energy did so well that even
though tesle stock right now is down
about 6.3% Nas stock is up
3.8% probably because of this explosion
in in you know battery sales mega pack
sales and solar potentially sales I'm a
big fan of this by the way big fan of
what you could sell these battery packs
for like home storage or city Storage
Mega
packs excuse me because the margins are
so high the margins on energy are like
35% they're
incredible so this is why again it sort
of reiterates my thesis that they don't
want to drop the prices all on or or
drop the size of battery that they're
selling you because that's where they're
making the money the dollar holas are
there so uh I mean look look at the last
here go to the last earnings release for
test go
to let's see let's get a statement over
here let's go over here to the statement
of operations let's go right here energy
storage let's throw a little highlighter
on that and then let's go to energy
storage expenses right right here and
all we're going to do is divide those
two lines and we're going to get the
2024 number which is the far
right okay so zoom out a little bit so I
can actually see the right line that I'm
on there we go this
number and this number all right so our
expense our cost of goods sold basically
1651 divided by
2376 yeah that's 31% margin .5% margin
so our expense is about
69% uh so but 30.1 or 5% going to uh
gross profit from energy that's really
really good that's fantastic margin but
unfortunately the the company's stock
price is not predicated on energy right
now because how much how much profit is
that right now what's the difference
2376 minus 1651 7 $25 million in gross
profit okay take off say 15% for
operating expenses let's see operating
expenses here are 2280 divided by
25182 oh okay take off 9% minus 9% for
Opex 725 *
.91 659 million of uh
energy uh we'll call it uh op
profit and their net income was
3183 million net income energy equals
divid by
2183 30% of net income it's great that's
fantastic that's really really good like
as a proportion of how much money
they're making this is a great sector
and it's growing rapidly and it's
probably honestly going to double it
could become 50% of their night income
but batteries are not what's propping
the stock up batteries make money but
don't prop the stock what
props AI plus robotics that's what's
propping the stock up right now in my
opinion when I think the valuation
unfortunately and I've been saying this
you know I've been saying this a little
early I've been saying this since like
$300 I thought it was a little Rich So
In fairness like there has been a
euphoric rally uh that has extended a
lot further than I thought it would last
summer I made videos talking about how
you know volatility and you might
remember this we did an emergency course
member live stream on this like I did
emergency live I sent Al alert to
everybody I go this is very important
and I'm like look volatility on Tesla is
the lowest it's been uh only four times
in history over the last 14 years and
every single time after volatility has
gotten this low it has gone up like 50%
over the next three months and Tesla did
exactly
that uh so I was right about that ran up
to about 260 from like 150 at that point
but I didn't think it would extend to
you know over
400 uh so obviously I was wrong about
that but let's take a look at this so
the current projections from Wall Street
and then fairness these are just Wall
Street projections so you know they they
they could be overly bearish but right
now we have
$243 of eps expected for Tesla for this
three year so if I divide that into
their price right now where my gosh
there's a child screaming out there I
haven't closed my other door yet that's
156 PE ratio right now wow that is loud
I'm going to go get a child in a sec and
bring him in
here give him a piece of my mind that's
uh 28% average growth is expected over
the next four years for the company 156
divided by 28% it's selling for a 5.5
Peg I mean even if I priced them as an
AI company they should be selling for
half of
that yeah which would be 380 divid 2
yeah 190 at this earnings per share
right for
2026 If I multiply their 2026 expected
EPS of $4 by a 2.67 like AI style PEG
ratio times 28% growth they should be
selling for
$300 in
2026 which this somewhat aligns with my
uh
like the valuation spreadsheet that I
have when I actually price out I always
like to do valuations in two ways one
sort of quick rough and dirty with a peg
sheet and then another we could get deep
sort of into the Weeds on a uh a Tesla
spreadsheet that I put together uh and
it somewhat aligns with saying that yeah
things are a little bit pricey right now
so if I go to 2026 for Tesla uh looks
like let's see here post end of 2026
what do we got here this
is uh let's see let's let's do this
together I don't have the latest fresh
one up so we'll just do this together so
we so we'll do the cost per vehicle here
uh revenue from energy $26 billion this
is very very high remember right now
we're we're like half that but we expect
it to double so we're going to put that
in
there uh we are expecting a reduction in
the average cost per vehicle that's fine
margin 18% that's fine we can leave that
and uh then we're going to give them the
50p
ratio oh well actually yeah by the end
of 2026 with these numbers yeah so I was
thinking $300 off the top of my head
here with numbers now I'm at 244
here with a reasonable end of 2026 level
on uh oh this is with an auto valuation
so this is with a 1.67 peg if I go to an
AI valuation there we go yeah 381 so
basically where the price is today with
an AI valuation you're in the 300 in
2026 with energy doubling so the price
today
assumes uh that you have vehicle growth
I think we've got vehicle how much
growth we have in here yeah 3 million
vehicles that assumes 50% vehicle growth
at slightly lower prices 50% energy
growth 18% margins over here uh and the
services PEG ratio which gives you a
higher PE multiple you're at 381 in
2026 the there some big assumptions
there pretty big now if I want to go
like you know more extreme here and
we're go W we're going to sell 5 million
rooc cabs by then and we're going to
sell those rooc cabs at you know 20%
margin I mean I think it's possible I
mean then you're at $623 that'd be
amazing okay the world is now using rooc
caps and we're selling it as a robo taxi
you know AI soft Service Company rather
than just a manufacturer sure but I mean
let's be real we haven't made a single
one yet and uh you know entering mass
production might give us that extra
million units to get to a million units
in 2026 for rooc caps assuming flat
growth on the others and I mean I think
these are already pretty generous
numbers so uh anyway that's that's where
I come from you know with this but
anyway don't get me wrong like I I don't
want to come across as a Tesla bear I
just think there's been a lot of
momentum uh and that's unfortunately
like a well I mean after that volatility
Spike that kind of created momentum and
then you get excitement over Robotics
and AI andah blah blah blah that's cool
but so what happens when that momentum
starts fading well this is a temporary
risk factor when you get something that
momentums up usually once the momentum
Fades you you tend to retrace and the
biggest retracement level I have right
now is about 318 I think we'll probably
hold 318 breaking 318 would put you back
at like the mid 200s which this is more
of where I'd want to buy more
anyway uh so I just think it would be
buying opportunity like I I don't think
Tesla's price going down would be a bad
thing I actually think it's just an
opportunity for you to buy more for the
future because I do think in the long
run they're on the right trajectory but
in the short term yes the valuation is a
little bit uh on the high side so let's
see did we cover everything we got uh
first decline in a decade we covered
that we needed 515,000 vehicle
deliveries to have a positive
year-over-year growth we didn't get that
we got 495,000 production being down 9%
that was weird to me why production
missed by 9% I think that's potentially
a leading indicator that they're seeing
signs of softer sales com forward into
q1 which honestly I mean that sort of
aligns with my I mean I hate to say it
but my sort of my bearishness that yes
there's going to be a lot of euphoria in
Q4 after Trump was elected but q1 we're
going to start getting the reality
numbers where you know January February
March we're going to start seeing people
potentially getting laid off after the
holidays the government workers for
polls get laid off uh you know polling
workers uh private payrolls continue to
suffer continue to be overstated and
then revised
down it sort of aligns with just a
slowing economic cycle usually the cycle
doesn't doesn't like
slow uh and then get better like it's
not like if you draw a circle an a
typical econ business cycle doesn't go
from boom to slowing to diagonal across
and back to Boom it has to go through
recession now I don't know when that's
going to be I think it'll be this year
but I could be wrong I've been wrong
before I might be wrong again but the
reason I share this with you is because
I think that there's a great future for
Tesla I think there are going to be
better prices to buy it I think end
phase is a great deal if you're looking
for energy bets but end phase will get
screwed in recession too I mean
everybody's just going to get hurt in a
recession so if there is a recession
things will be a lot cheaper in the
future if there's no recession well then
I look at cheap valuations right now and
end phase is a very cheap valuation
relative to Tesla so if you like that
energy growth you know I'd be buying end
phase for the energy growth that's not
recommendation for you that's just a
thesis that I have if you want more of
my thesis and talk to me in the live
streams remember go to meet kevin.com
but anyway end phase right now 71.3
divided by 2.19 selling for about 32
times and their growth over the next
four years is expected to be 33 yeah so
we're selling for a one peg slightly
below a one peg it's like a 097 Peg you
know Tesla at a 5.5 Peg paler at like a
10 Peg price turnings growth yeah you
all know this but anyway thanks so much
for watching okay I really appreciate
yall uh I'll just keep providing value
I'm always just going to like you don't
have to copy me right I just want to
share my perspective with you and and
and really I want everybody to make
money like I I get happy when other
people make money because other people
are happy and it's fun to be around
happy people I'm very depressed when
everybody around is like oh my gosh you
know I lost my job and I don't have any
money that's sad I remember that 2008
it's terrible man terrible so anyway
thanks folks see you bye can not
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