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Tesla Stock Disaster, Bankruptcy, Margins, Musk Lawsuit, Carvana, Lucid, & Rivian,

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Tesla is straight up bankrupting the

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competition in this video we're going to

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review how Tesla is bankrupting the

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competition and we'll start by looking

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at a used car dealer followed by a

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couple of other very popular EV

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manufacturers we'll go ahead then see

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how Tesla might be shooting itself in

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the foot thanks to a margin preview that

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we get for Tesla we'll also look at an

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earnings preview we'll understand what's

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going on with car rental companies and

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Tesla we'll take a brief look at a

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Twitter regarding its profit problems

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and debt and how that could affect Tesla

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and then of course we can also not end a

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Tesla video without talking about the

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lawsuit over potential Elon Musk fraud

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or defrauding investors for his tweet

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from 2018. hey everyone me Kevin here

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first let's talk about how Tesla is

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bankrupting the competition first let's

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start by looking at what the car

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dealership guy says on Twitter he says

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here's a Tesla Model y listed on carvana

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for twelve thousand six hundred dollars

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more than a new car

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carvana's management literally asleep at

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the wheel he says now I had to

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personally fact check this because I

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found I found it remarkable that a model

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y that's used with 14 000 miles would be

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listed for more than a brand new model y

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so what did I do well I went to

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carvana's website typed in model Y and

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sure enough I can overpay by about seven

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thousand dollars for a last year model

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model y with about 2500 miles given that

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the current new price of a car a model Y

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is sitting closer to 52

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000 in fact you could see that right

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here this is the model y long range 52

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thousand nine hundred and ninety dollars

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and this is not on the potential savings

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tab it is under the actual purchase

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price tab so just remember that number

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for a moment fifty three thousand

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dollars is roughly the new price right

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uh and if you zoom out what do you get

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on the carvana website you end up

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getting these vehicles sitting here for

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fifty nine five for the Tesla Model y

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long range Tesla Model y long range 55 9

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19

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000 miles almost here's another long

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range for fifty seven thousand dollars

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five thousand miles a 2022 here's a 2021

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13 000 miles basically the same price as

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new and it makes you wonder what is

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carvana thinking why would they not

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appropriately adjust prices so that way

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they could actually maintain a

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Competitive Edge for their used vehicles

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and car dealership guy actually suggests

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that this is exactly what CarMax is

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doing in fact CarMax dropped prices

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immediately after Tesla drop prices and

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they sold 57 percent of their entire

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Tesla inventory in just 24 hours and as

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of the next morning the stock continued

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to fall so the car dealership AI paying

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attention to this now we did notice that

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vehicle prices have started getting

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dropped by carvana on Teslas but again

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if you go to the main inventory page you

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still get a whole host of vehicles that

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are actually showing as more expensive

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than Tesla's now after the Tesla price

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drop now that's quite remarkable and so

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it made me wonder oh my gosh what if

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Tesla is actually bankrupting these

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companies so what I wanted to do was

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jump over here I went to the carvana

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balance sheet and I went ahead and did

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these numbers for us already and what I

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did is I took their balance sheet which

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is right here as of September 30th 2020

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and I made some adjustments because I

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want to see how close to bankruptcy this

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company actually is keep in mind if you

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search on YouTube meet Kevin carvana

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you'll see that I've already been

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covering the bankruptcy story for

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carvana for a while and I think this is

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an incredibly dangerous stock to huddle

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they also just adopted a poison pill

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which honestly is quite ridiculous they

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don't want anybody to adopt more than a

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five or buy into more than a five

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percent position of or of for corvana

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stock because they're so worried about

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being taken over for some reason but

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their excuse is absolutely hilarious and

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then I'll show you the balance sheet

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look at the excuse that they're giving

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they're saying here that carvana wants

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to preserve the ability of carvana

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to basically take tax benefits from Lost

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carry forwards in other words if you

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lose so much money that you're so good

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at doing nothing but losing money like

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let's say you lose a hundred million

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dollars or in the case of carvana maybe

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a lot more then in the future if you

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make say 10 million dollars of positive

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Revenue you might be able to carry

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forward some of these losses and offset

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your income to where usually if let's

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say you made 10 million dollars of

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income you might have to pay 2.1 million

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dollars in corporate taxes right about

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21 but because you have all these losses

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that actually becomes an asset so in

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some Twisted perverted way this loser of

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a company is trying to preserve their

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leftover asset of potential tax carry

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forwards so that way they could say hey

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look we made money again now we don't

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know those taxes this is kind of like

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the Amazon mentality where it's kind of

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like hey we've lost so much money in the

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past we shouldn't have to pay any taxes

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on our new income it makes sense that's

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called entrepreneurship and capitalism

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and the way the tax structure is set but

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what's fascinating is carvana is

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basically telling the world hey because

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we are so good at losing money we do not

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want anybody taking control of more than

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4.9 percent of this company and as soon

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as anyone does we'll basically just do a

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stock split basically giving everybody

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two shares for one share that they have

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except for the person who took more than

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a five percent share so in other words

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they instantly get diluted down to about

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two and a half percent ownership as soon

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as they go and hit five percent now

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that's pretty wild and this is called a

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poison pill and the excuse they're using

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for this poison pill is we're so good at

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losing money that is now an asset okay

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fine but now we need to actually try to

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understand what's happening on their

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balance sheet because it'll show you how

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Tesla is actually forcing deflation by

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basically bankrupting the competition

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and it ain't just carvano okay watch

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this okay let's go over here and let's

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take the green column and say that's

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carvana's vision of their assets carvana

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wants you to think they have 9.6 billion

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dollars in assets that's this piece

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right here they want you to think they

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have 9.6 billion dollars in assets so

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what I'm going to do is I'm going to go

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in here and I'm going to add up things

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that I think matter I'm going to take

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their cash position I'll take that I'm

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not going to give any value to their

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restricted restricted cash position

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because this is probably going towards

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new cars that they're probably going to

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lose money on anyway so I'm just going

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to be a little conservative and take

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that out for a moment anytime I do

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critical fundamental analysis I like to

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be very conservative right I want to

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know the worst case scenario so I'm

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going to be a little bit more aggressive

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here I'm going to give all financing and

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vehicle inventory that they are trying

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to sell L like loans or cars they're

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trying to sell a 20 discount so rather

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than giving them 2.5 billion dollars for

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car inventory I'm only going to give

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them two billion dollars rather than

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giving them 485 for loans held for sale

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I'll give them 400. all right fine I'll

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give them their beneficial interest in

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securitizations but uh these other

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current assets you know I'll carry those

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forward as well that's fine but because

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of these discounts I'm only going to

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give them 3.7 billion dollars of actual

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current assets when it comes to

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long-term assets I'm gonna remove

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anything I think has no value plant

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property and Equipment these are like

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car vending machines and carvana car

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transporters and carvana branded

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software I think this has virtually no

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value in the event the company goes

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bankrupt or it would have some really

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low liquidation value so to be safe I'm

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gonna say this has no value their leases

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have no value if they go bankrupt

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they're intangible assets or their

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Goodwill like their trademarks and their

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brand have no value and these other

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assets from uh do from related parties I

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I went ahead and even though I wrote no

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value I gave them that 214 anyway so now

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when we look and subtract their plant

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property and Equipment their Goodwill

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and their brand value and their

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trademarks and all this stuff that

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really doesn't matter what we end up

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with this is lease right and anyway

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these things have no value what we end

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up with is a company that actually only

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has total assets of about 3.9 billion

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dollars they say they have 9.6 billion

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dollars but because they're knocking on

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the door of bankruptcy I'm going to be

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very aggressive here when I add up their

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debts I get roughly the same number that

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they do in debts about 9.1 billion

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dollars that means carvana in my opinion

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has negative shareholder Equity of 5.2

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billion dollars they're so far upside

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down they are trying to tell the world

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no no we have at least 374 million

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dollars of equity but they're propping

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that up with stuff that's valueless like

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their brand which there isn't really

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much of one left uh and they're not

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doing a good job on their website of

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preserving that thanks to Tesla's price

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drops and so really what you're creating

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here is a company that's going bankrupt

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you don't have to look too far down

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their third quarter income statement to

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realize they're screwed while yes they

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actually made a gross profit of 359

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million dollars selling about 2.5

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billion dollars worth of vehicles in

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wholesale and to retail that 359 million

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dollar gross profit gets eaten up by

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more than

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153 million dollars of interest expense

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and SG a expenses exceeding

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650 million dollars that's a lot and so

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it's no wonder why they're losing 500

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million dollars a quarter or at least

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this last quarter they were doing better

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uh last year obviously they were only

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down 68 million but even last year they

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weren't even profitable and over the

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last nine months they've lost basically

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1.5 billion dollars 1.452 to be exact

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but that's roughly 500 mil per quarter

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that they're burning but wait a minute

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if we actually go to their balance sheet

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we don't have 500 million cash exactly

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that's because the company's going

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bankrupt and Tesla just contributed to

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that by basically forcing all used car

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companies to increase their discounts on

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their existing inventory substantially

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pushing companies like carvana closer to

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bankruptcy but it's not just carvana

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that's getting pushed closer to

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bankruptcy it's also other manufacturers

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look at arcimoto arcimoto money losing

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company I've interviewed the CEO but 4

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I've posted my criticisms online before

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type into YouTube meet Kevin Tech

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archimoto you'll see my most recent

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interview and you'll see that money

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losing companies if they can't turn a

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profit in a recession have to resort to

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selling stock on the stock exchange but

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when they do that they substantially

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depress the value of their stock because

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there doesn't tend to be a lot of buying

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liquidity so what ends up happening well

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you end up getting unfortunately a

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company whose CEO I like but it's not a

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company I would invest in you get a

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company like arcimoto dropping 58 in a

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day yikes because they have to dilute

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their shareholders but it's not just

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companies like arcimoto it's companies

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like rivium let's look at rivian for a

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moment here you have a company that in

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2022 is generating half a billion

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dollars of Revenue but their costs to

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achieve that Revenue are 1.4 billion

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dollars that's gross profit of negative

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nearly a billion dollars so in other

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words it costs them 2.71 cents to make

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one dollar and we're not even talking

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about operating expenses yet which are

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running at 857 million dollars rivian is

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next to have to raise a lot of money

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unfortunately it gets not much better

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when you look at the rivian balance

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sheet yes they have about 13.2 billion

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dollars in cash yes they only have about

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2 billion in payables that gives them

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about 11 billion dollars in free cash

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that's fantastic and they're going to

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need it because when we go over to the

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cash flow statement we could see that

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unfortunately they're operating cash

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flow is negative 3.6 billion dollars in

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nine months plus the Investments the

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capex they're spending of about 1

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billion dollars you're looking at about

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a 4.6 billion dollar burn and they have

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11. that gives them about 2.3 years

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before they run out of money

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unfortunately you don't want to get get

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close to running out of money for when

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you start raising money so in my opinion

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rivian is another one that if they

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continue on this course of losing money

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for every vehicle they are Manufacturing

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in the ramping process yikes you're

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potentially looking at bankruptcy now

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don't get me wrong and I've done this

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comparison before you could actually go

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on YouTube and just type in meet Kevin

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Tesla versus rivian versus Lucid if you

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go back and you look at Tesla at roughly

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this similar amount of production as

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where rivian or Lucid sits now guess

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what Tesla was making a profit per

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vehicle not a large profit but a profit

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when you look at both rivian and Lucid

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they are burning money substantially

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we're not even close to profit and by

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Tesla reducing prices you're putting

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even more stress on these margins that's

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not very good in fact if you jump over

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to the Lucid earnings report what you

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have is you have

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195.4 million dollars of Revenue and

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what's their cost of Revenue

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492.4 before you get to operating

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expenses so another example where you

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have a company spending 2.52 cents to

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make a dollar and Tesla dropping their

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prices does no good for used car

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companies rivian Lucid even Ford Ford

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can't even manufacture an electric

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vehicle with a positive gross margin

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they're negative on producing mockies

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they lose money on maquis that's insane

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so what do you end up with you actually

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end up with a strong likelihood that as

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long as Tesla can survive this

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recessionary environment the competition

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is going to be be beaten to death

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or near death

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they are going to have to raise so much

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money and dilute their shareholders so

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much that they might have to de-list

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from stock exchanges or go bankrupt now

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it's not to create fear or fud for other

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companies it's just to say when Tesla

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Cuts prices other companies freak out

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reason why after Tesla Cuts prices xping

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and Neo stock fall Ford and GM stock

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fall Volkswagen and BMW stock fall it's

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because everyone is worried that the

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entire industry is going to compress and

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given the fact that the biggest Chinese

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auto manufacturer known as byd makes

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just 1.45 for every one hundred dollars

16:47

of income they receive whereas Tesla

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brings 14 to the bottom line for every

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100 they sell you have a lot of concerns

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that the entire EV manufacturing world

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is about to get shifted down which means

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yes Tesla margins are going to go down

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down but the rest of the EV sector goes

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negative and that means Tesla might be

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one of the few survivors who's actually

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able to expand during this recession

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unfortunately as we talk about expansion

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on one hand we also have to be realistic

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that yes Tesla is unfortunately going to

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suffer some kind of margin compression

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and this is where it's worth looking at

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Bloomberg's estimate for Tesla's margin

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compression so what we're going to do is

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we're going to jump on right over here

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and we're going to look at what

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Bloomberg suggests Bloomberg believes

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that the price war that Tesla is

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creating is going to significantly hurt

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Tesla as well it's not like this video

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is just to say Tesla's gonna be good

17:53

it's gold and everything's fine it's

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unfortunately not great even though

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Tesla has the highest likelihood in my

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opinion of being one of the winners in

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the EV space it's going to get Shrugged

18:05

through the mud it's kind of like going

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into the pig Den beating up all the

18:10

other pigs and you're still muddy and

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stinky and full of poop even though you

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won you still kind of lose right so

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Bloomberg suggests their first estimate

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at gauging how much of a margin impact

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we're going to see at Tesla is about 380

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basis points to consensus gross margin

18:31

however it could be as high as 450 basis

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points that could end up being offset by

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more operating leverage lower raw

18:42

material costs maybe the introduction

18:44

finally of the Cyber truck but at least

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in the near term you're expecting to see

18:49

a margin hit a Tesla even as it likely

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gains market share from the competitors

18:56

In fairness here Bloomberg actually

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hands it to Tesla and suggests that look

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Tesla is actually pretty competitively

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priced against cars like the Mercedes

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GLC or the Mach e and the biggest ones

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to be worried about are companies like

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rivian and Lucid who are bleeding cash

19:13

at least companies like Ford and GM have

19:17

balance sheet flexibility including

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Honda but balance sheet flexibility just

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means I guess we can lose money to try

19:25

to survive and keep selling some EVS so

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we don't get completely beaten out of

19:30

the market but look at this price

19:32

comparisons from Fisker show that a

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Tesla Model Y at its new 53 000 price is

19:38

very competitive to a Maki or a Mercedes

19:41

GLC before any potential tax

19:44

considerations like tax benefits for the

19:46

EVS thanks to the inflation reduction

19:48

act that's actually a really good Plus

19:50

for Tesla because now with its new

19:52

pricing we expect Tesla's going to be

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able to take advantage of a lot more of

19:56

that sub 55

19:58

000 full 7 500 tax credit see Tesla's

20:02

full self driving is is actually build

20:05

separately from the base model of the

20:08

vehicle and even though you might be

20:10

able to include FSD in your financing it

20:15

is not included as an optional upgrade

20:17

for the purposes of determining whether

20:18

or not you could get the tax credit that

20:21

actually potentially means you could

20:23

have a lot of Tesla buyers who say wow

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I'm paying fifty three thousand dollars

20:27

for the car how much is FSD oh 15 grand

20:31

that's a lot oh but wait I get a 7 500

20:33

tax credit maybe now do I want to buy

20:36

FSD maybe and it likely will increase

20:39

the take rate for FSD especially since

20:41

now people can actually get the full

20:43

self-driving beta in a wide release

20:46

that's great and once again reiterates

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Tesla's ability to just beat up the

20:51

competition and take more market share

20:53

so so far we've talked about the fact

20:56

that Tesla is bankrupting companies

20:58

we've talked about them potentially

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bankrupting used car dealers like

21:02

carvana and we've also talked about

21:03

about Tesla's potentially shrinking

21:06

operating margin even though that means

21:09

they're going to be kicking the

21:10

competitions but in terms of market

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share so what is that shrinking

21:14

operating margin look like well if we

21:16

take the Bloomberg estimate of a

21:18

reduction of basically three to five

21:20

percent on Tesla's operating margins

21:23

what we're going to want to do is

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probably take Tesla's present about 27

21:28

to 25 margins and drop these to probably

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to be safe about 20 percent so we're

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going to say the gross profit on Tesla

21:38

vehicles is only 20 percent that's an 80

21:40

percent cost right and let's use a

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forward projection of a forty seven

21:45

thousand dollar Revenue per vehicle with

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4.2 million Vehicles by 2025 which

21:50

obviously could be vastly off but we

21:53

think is relatively reasonable

21:54

especially with the gigafactory

21:55

expansion we're seeing now if I assume a

21:59

19 take rate on FSD which is in my

22:02

opinion low because that's what what we

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had in 2020 we had a 19 take rate that

22:07

could be higher in my opinion closer to

22:10

30 but let's go ahead and assume 19 that

22:13

probably puts our fair value for Tesla

22:15

at a PEG ratio of 1.67 at about 481

22:21

dollars per share at Tesla today around

22:24

120 that represents about a 59

22:26

compounded annual grade of return over

22:29

the next three years as we get out of a

22:30

recession again let's go ahead and be

22:32

generous though here to valuations and

22:35

remove Tesla FSD completely let's assume

22:39

Tesla makes zero money from FSD and

22:42

margins are 20 you're still looking at a

22:44

company that should sell for 350 and if

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you think a PEG ratio of 1.67 is too

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high let's go with a PEG ratio of one at

22:55

a 30 growth rate that would be a 30pe

22:58

ratio bringing you still yet to a 210

23:02

dollar price Target or a 2 20.6 percent

23:05

compounded annual rate of return for the

23:07

next three years so even with this

23:09

margin compression that Bloomberg is

23:11

projecting Tesla looks like a steal of a

23:13

deal and there's a reason why it's one

23:16

of the largest positions in my personal

23:17

portfolio though I want to be realistic

23:19

there is bad news now there are some

23:24

nice things like Morgan Stanley says we

23:27

believe a floor in earnings must be

23:29

reached before investors get comfortable

23:31

with the floor and the valuation now the

23:34

reason I say that's nice is because we

23:36

have an earnings call coming up in one

23:38

week from Tesla I personally agree with

23:41

this analysis that it's quite likely in

23:43

my opinion that in one week once we

23:45

actually get those Tesla earnings

23:46

whether they're good or bad will

23:49

actually have insights and usually what

23:52

happens is when you get answers and

23:54

insights on a company or on any kind of

23:56

negative Catalyst some element of fear

23:59

goes away and you potentially unlock

24:01

buying Morgan Stanley May maintains an

24:04

overweight rating with a price target of

24:07

250 dollars on Tesla they suggest that

24:10

the global EV Market is experiencing a

24:12

transition from under Supply to

24:15

oversupply and they believe that 2023 is

24:18

a year during which execution on

24:20

manufacturing costs and Supply Chain

24:22

management will separate the winners

24:25

from the losers I've just broken down

24:27

quite a few losers and shown you why

24:30

Tesla wins in almost all of these

24:33

categories against all of the

24:34

competitors whether it's sales prices or

24:37

its margins or its net income Tesla wins

24:41

across the board Capital

24:42

self-sufficiency may also be tested

24:45

during a time of negatively reset

24:48

expectations over the next few years

24:50

this is a way of saying if you're not

24:52

making cash flow and you have to go to

24:55

the market to raise money you're going

24:56

to end up like an arcimoto where you're

24:59

down 60 percent in just a day because

25:01

you had to dump a bunch of shares on the

25:03

market just to be able to survive

25:06

that is a problem but not only that it's

25:10

worth looking at analysis from Goldman

25:12

Sachs Goldman Sachs talks about the

25:15

recently reduced prices in several

25:17

geographies including the US Europe and

25:20

China anywhere between six to twenty

25:22

percent and they suggest that while

25:24

reduced prices for the model 3 and Y

25:26

help the company better address the 20

25:30

to 30 percent of vehicles sold in the

25:32

market between the 40 to 55k range

25:34

basically opening up your market share

25:37

ultimately the price Cuts May imply that

25:40

orders were tracking more weekly than

25:42

expected therefore Goldman Sachs is

25:45

lowering their EPS projections and

25:48

they're reducing their average selling

25:50

prices now they've already been lowering

25:53

their expectations for earnings per

25:54

share and the growth rate for Tesla but

25:57

now they're lowering lowering them even

25:59

more

26:00

despite this Goldman Sachs believes that

26:04

even though we're going to have lower

26:05

earnings in the near term they think

26:07

they're going to see Tesla take more

26:09

market share which is what we've been

26:10

talking about and they think that

26:13

Tesla's new factories including Austin

26:15

and Berlin will end up having margins

26:18

that closely resemble Shanghai or more

26:21

closely resemble Shanghai then they

26:23

resemble Fremont Shanghai we know to

26:25

have very very high margins and so

26:27

Berlin and Austin ramping should help

26:30

increase margins for Tesla rather than

26:33

only seeing margins go down thanks to

26:37

price Cuts this is what happens when you

26:39

scale maybe that'll happen for rivian

26:41

and Lucid as well but they have a long

26:43

way to go to even make a dime of profit

26:45

they're not even close yet they also

26:48

think that Tesla's ability to make a

26:51

profit while lowering prices basically

26:54

wrecks the competitors in their opinion

26:57

this is something we talked about

26:58

earlier as well so it's not just me me

27:00

saying it now their earnings per share

27:02

estimate is only three dollars and fifty

27:04

cents for 2023. now that actually makes

27:08

Tesla look a little bit more expensive

27:10

than usual because if you look at three

27:12

dollars and fifty cents at about a

27:14

hundred and twenty dollars a share let's

27:15

say that puts you at about

27:18

34.2 times price to earnings ratio for

27:21

for 2023 and if you have a 30 gross

27:25

Target or growth Target for Tesla that

27:28

actually puts you somewhere around a PEG

27:30

ratio of 1.13 most people have a price

27:33

or growth Target I should say for Tesla

27:35

of around 40 percent uh in which case

27:38

you'd be at a PEG ratio of about 0.85 if

27:41

you have a pay or a growth Target

27:43

eventually for Tesla of 50 you'd

27:46

actually be at a PEG ratio of only 68.

27:48

so it all comes down obviously to your

27:50

growth Target for Tesla

27:52

in addition Goldman Sachs believes that

27:55

the recent weakening of the U.S dollar

27:58

mitigates some of the damage of the

28:00

international price reductions you have

28:02

to remember that Tesla sells or receives

28:04

about 45 of their revenue from the

28:07

international market that was really bad

28:10

in 2022 when the dollar was

28:12

strengthening but now that the dollar is

28:14

plummeting it could actually be a

28:16

Tailwind for boosting Tesla's margins

28:20

and profits and what I actually like to

28:22

see is substantially declining profit

28:25

estimates because it makes it easier for

28:28

Tesla to beat them consider the

28:30

following snapshot that's been

28:32

circulating on social media you could

28:34

see that 12 months ago we had let's see

28:38

here this is the EPS adjusted measure

28:41

for Q4 and then this over here is our

28:45

EPS 2022 measure let's just stick with

28:49

the Q4 2022 earnings estimate

28:53

and you could see that six months ago we

28:56

thought number the earnings would be

28:57

about one dollar and 24 cents that has

29:01

then steadily declined actually it went

29:03

up to 129 there for a hot minute three

29:06

months ago but then declined back to 124

29:08

116 114 and the current estimate is only

29:12

a buck 13 for Tesla EPS so if you're

29:17

trying to track what that EPS comes in

29:19

at for the fourth quarter for when those

29:20

earnings come out the current estimate

29:22

is declining by the day right now

29:25

sitting at just 1.13 if we look at the

29:29

2022 adjusted earnings per share we're

29:32

sitting at a current estimate of about

29:34

four bucks and so if you wanted to use a

29:36

trailing PE measure for Tesla you would

29:39

take about 120 for the share price

29:41

divided by four and you would see that

29:43

Tesla's selling for about 30 x now I

29:47

know you might say wait a minute like

29:48

isn't that less than what Goldman Sachs

29:51

was predicting

29:53

yes Goldman Sachs actually includes only

29:56

about four dollars uh of of eps for

30:01

Tesla if you exclude SBC for 2023 stock

30:05

base Com or 350 for 2023 if you include

30:10

stock based call that's insane think

30:13

about that for a moment the consensus

30:15

estimate for

30:17

2022 okay 2022 consensus estimate is

30:22

four dollars you can see right there

30:25

four dollars period 2022.

30:27

simple that is wall Street's consensus

30:31

estimate Goldman Sachs is actually 50

30:34

cents lower than that

30:36

for the next year's earnings per share

30:40

in my opinion that's actually great news

30:42

because it's a sign that Wall Street

30:44

once again is probably going to be

30:46

really wrong and it's going to be quite

30:50

bullish for Tesla now do keep in mind

30:52

though even the Wall Street average

30:55

estimates which are more bullish than

30:57

Goldman Sachs have growth of the

31:01

following for Tesla thirteen percent

31:03

next year 31 percent the year after 28

31:08

percent the year after in earnings

31:10

that means that Wall Street actually

31:13

thinks Tesla's only going to grow their

31:16

earnings per share at an average this is

31:19

wild okay Wall Street thinks Tesla is

31:22

over the next three years only going to

31:24

grow at an average of 24 percent

31:28

this is despite the goal of the company

31:31

to grow at 50 percent and Tesla in a

31:36

hard quarter going at 41 percent

31:39

so you could see Wall Street is pretty

31:42

bearish relative to the company's

31:44

estimates now if you don't think that

31:46

Tesla is going to grow 40 or even 30

31:48

percent yeah you might align more with

31:50

Wall Street or even Goldman Sachs but

31:52

the fact that Goldman Sachs here for

31:55

2023 is actually looking at what to me

31:58

looks like a negative EPS absolutely

32:01

blows my mind now just to make that

32:04

crystal clear because I know it's like

32:06

hard to imagine that Goldman Sachs could

32:09

picture zero growth for Tesla over the

32:11

next year

32:12

look at this chart right here EPS

32:15

projections

32:16

3.48 cents for 2022 3.50 for 2023. yeah

32:22

Goldman projects no growth that's insane

32:28

and this folks is a company that has a

32:32

200 price Target Goldman Sachs has a 200

32:36

price target for Tesla but assumes

32:40

zero growth over the next 12 months how

32:44

freaking insane is that

32:47

hey you know what in the short term you

32:49

know what they say in the short term the

32:51

market is irrational and it will remain

32:53

irrational longer than you can remain

32:55

solvent but in the long term

32:57

fundamentals tend to win and this is why

33:00

we regularly talk about fundamental

33:01

analysis in my programs on building your

33:04

wealth in our course member live streams

33:05

real estate investing Stock Investing

33:08

do-it-yourself Property Management

33:09

making YouTube videos being a YouTuber

33:12

being a real estate agent increasing

33:14

your income and our Hustlers course you

33:16

name it next we have to talk about how

33:19

Hertz is actually now interested in

33:22

buying 25

33:24

000 Tesla and poll stars to rent to Uber

33:27

drivers for about 334 Euros per week now

33:31

that's actually quite interesting

33:33

because it means that even if consumer

33:36

demand slows down if the prices of these

33:39

EVS come down you could end up finding

33:41

that rental car buyers even during a

33:44

recession might end up swooping in to

33:46

pick up the inventory so far it looks

33:48

like that's exactly what's happening we

33:50

have to talk about how Twitter could

33:51

potentially affect Tesla unfortunately

33:55

Twitter has to start making payments at

33:57

least according to the financial times

33:59

on about 1.5 billion dollars of annual

34:02

interest expenses if we look at the 2021

34:05

annual report for Twitter we could see

34:08

they brought in revenue of about 5

34:10

billion dollars yet they had losses of

34:13

221 million dollars so somehow you could

34:16

make five billion dollars and still lose

34:18

money that's pretty disappointing but

34:20

anyway the company lost money wow uh and

34:24

we know that their revenues per quarter

34:27

if per quarter revenues were about 1.27

34:30

let's say we know that their revenues

34:32

right now were down by about 40 percent

34:34

which means this is a company that's

34:37

probably making somewhere around

34:41

762 million dollars in Revenue right now

34:46

762. if they have to pay 1.5 billion

34:50

dollars in interest that means they have

34:52

to pay 125 million dollars in interest

34:54

per quarter unfortunately their expenses

34:58

were insane even if you take out the

35:00

probable one-time litigation expenses

35:02

here you're still sitting at about 4.8

35:05

billion dollars in annual expenses

35:07

divided by four puts you at about 1.2

35:10

billion dollars in expenses right now

35:13

the company only makes about 762 mil

35:16

that would put them way upside down

35:19

but since Elon Musk cut about 75 percent

35:22

of the company out let's just assume

35:24

they're about 75 expensed out right now

35:28

their expenses instead of being about

35:30

1.2 might be actually closer to 300

35:35

million dollars

35:36

ah wait a minute that's actually

35:39

potentially good news because if their

35:41

revenue is about

35:43

762 million dollars a quarter assuming

35:46

we could take the 2021 numbers and

35:48

divide them by four and then take off 40

35:51

percent we're at 762 of Revenue per

35:56

quarter we're at negative 125 per month

36:00

which means we're at negative 125 times

36:03

3 for the quarter right minus 300 mil

36:06

for surviving expenses what do we end up

36:10

with we end up with let's take the

36:12

little handy dandy calculator here and

36:14

see if there's any more risk 762 minus

36:17

125 minus 125 minus 125 minus 300 oh my

36:21

gosh oh my Lord they could actually

36:24

potentially be positive by 87 million

36:26

dollars so e even though this entire

36:29

Financial Times piece is a my opinion a

36:32

pretty big fud story on how Elon Musk

36:35

could potentially have to default on the

36:37

debt and then he would uh have to go

36:38

bankrupt and he could try to force

36:40

renegotiating uh and and he could try to

36:43

re-imp improve his position by

36:45

negotiating with Bankers under even the

36:47

threat of bankruptcy or he could try to

36:49

take out more margin loans against Tesla

36:51

or he could try to raise more Capital

36:53

which is exactly actually what they've

36:54

been trying to do if the numbers are

36:56

right Elon should actually have been

36:59

able to get his cost down to where the

37:02

company might be soon able to run at a

37:05

break even

37:06

even if we just assumed Elon Musk set

37:09

aside

37:11

three billion dollars of stuff he

37:14

already sold for Tesla stock and assume

37:17

that uh Twitter runs out of 250 million

37:20

dollar negative that's like taking

37:23

another 20 or like another third off of

37:25

the revenue that I assumed for for uh

37:27

Twitter based on reports that we're

37:30

getting okay public reports are showing

37:32

Revenue declines at Twitter of 40 to 35

37:35

percent okay if we take off another 250

37:38

here we're probably more like uh

37:40

assuming a 55 to 60 decline

37:43

even in that case Twitter would be able

37:46

to survive another 12 months using three

37:49

billion dollars of elon's money this is

37:51

where I actually believe that elon's

37:53

confidence in saying he will not have to

37:55

sell in 2023 sell more Tesla stock is

37:58

actually

37:59

accurate

38:00

so I give Elon a pass on that now 2024

38:05

all bets are off he could go back to

38:07

selling even though he says he hopes he

38:09

won't have to sell until 2025.

38:11

unfortunately then we have even more

38:16

bad news the lawsuit over the Tweet

38:20

funding secured long story short in

38:23

August of 2018 Elon Musk said taking

38:26

Tesla private at 420 funding secured he

38:30

ran his math assuming that Tesla is

38:32

worth about 419 dollars and some odd

38:34

cents and he rounded it up to 420 for

38:37

Good Karma

38:38

he was doing so under the premise that

38:40

the Saudi private investment fund would

38:43

be willing to commit to funding the deal

38:45

at 420 per share unfortunately those

38:48

were just talks and in an interview with

38:51

the New York Times Elon Musk kind of

38:53

walked himself into a corner when he

38:56

basically said yeah the deal wasn't a

38:58

commitment yet it was just talk that led

39:01

a judge in California named Edward Chen

39:03

who's the same one hearing the fraud

39:06

case starting today to say quote no

39:10

reasonable jury could find Elon musk's

39:12

tweets on August 7 2018 accurate or not

39:17

misleading this is the same judge who

39:19

rejected elon's claims to move the Tesla

39:23

fraud case that Elon Musk tweet fraud

39:25

case to Texas despite elon's claims of

39:28

bias in the jury pool due to all of his

39:31

layoffs at Twitter now one of the jurors

39:34

or potential jurors was interviewed I

39:36

don't know how they pulled this

39:37

interview off but apparently or maybe

39:40

maybe this was reported through through

39:41

attorneys that's probably the case

39:43

because attorneys interview jurors but

39:45

anyway one of the jurors apparently said

39:48

that Elon Musk comes across as arrogant

39:50

and narcissistic but they believe they

39:52

could put that opinion aside in the

39:54

courtroom and judge Elon Musk fairly

39:56

because after all there are times they

39:59

don't like their husband and you don't

40:00

have to like somebody to properly judge

40:02

them

40:04

ah

40:06

let me just say that Elon Musk losing

40:09

this fraud case would not be very good

40:12

because there is a risk that Elon Musk

40:15

could lose a substantial amount of money

40:18

in the fraud case to damages now it's

40:22

very difficult to prove damages because

40:24

since his tweet Tesla's share prices are

40:27

up 384 percent but I believe the

40:31

individuals involved in suing Mr musk

40:33

for fraud are individuals who were

40:36

trading based off Elon musk's tweet and

40:39

so now there's going to be not only a

40:42

jury that decides was Elon Musk wrong

40:44

for what he said but then if he was who

40:48

decides how much in punishment he has to

40:50

pay who decides what those damages are

40:53

and all that is still to be determined

40:55

but if Elon Musk has to pay one or two

40:58

bill you better damn hope that Twitter

41:00

is really cash flow positive otherwise

41:03

elon's gonna have to flip-flop again

41:05

instead are probably selling Tesla stock

41:07

to keep both well his penalties alive

41:11

himself alive his obligations alive and

41:14

Twitter alive

41:16

that's a lot of information so long and

41:19

short of it if you made it this far I

41:20

appreciate you consider subscribing and

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sharing if you like this sort of longer

41:24

video please let me know in the comments

41:25

down below if you want a bottom line of

41:27

the whole video short-term bad long-term

41:30

good for Tesla stock hashtag not

41:33

Financial advice and to the person who

41:35

left me a comment the other day saying

41:37

Hey Kevin when you say I'm a licensed

41:41

financial advisor and I run an ETF and I

41:43

sell programs on selling or on building

41:45

your wealth

41:47

uh you shouldn't say that

41:51

oh and final message to the person who

41:54

told me that I should not say things

41:56

like I'm a licensed financial advisor

41:58

and even though I sell programs I'm

42:00

building your wealth and I run an ETF an

42:02

exchange traded fund this video is not

42:05

personalized Financial advice

42:07

no I'm going to continue providing that

42:10

disclosure disclosure because I think

42:11

it's very fair and reasonable to the

42:13

audience to know that look I am a

42:15

financial advisor I do sell courses on

42:17

building a wealth I am an investor in

42:20

Tesla stock and I run an ETF which may

42:22

or may not have Holdings in particular

42:25

stocks that we're talking about so I'm a

42:28

big fan of more disclosure rather than

42:30

less but thanks for the feedback I see

42:32

it whether I like it or not thanks so

42:34

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