Air India 171 *URGENT New Data* FADEC ECC Failure - Captain Steeeve RESPONDS
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Just moments ago, we received an
official update from Air India on some
of the information that the corporation
Air India knows about Air India Flight
171. In addition, after my video on
VaporLock posted about 2 and 1/2 days
ago that got over 400,000 views, we've
seen multiple other YouTube channels
start talking about the theory of vapor
lock. In this video, we're going to give
an update on that, but I'm actually
going to give you some insight into what
may be even more of a probable cause for
the Air India 171 accident based on new
information that's since come out. Now,
in case you're not familiar, I'm Meet
Kevin. I'm the owner, operator, and uh
pilot in command of this Phenom 300E, a
dual engine jet. In this video, we're
going to touch on first the latest
updates from Air India. Air India just
provided in an inter interview interview
with the Times of India information on
the engines. The right engine was new
and installed as of March of 2025.
So, in other words, less than 2 months
old at the time of the Axim. And the
left engine was quote last serviced in
2023. Typically, an engine is going to
get overhauled every 5 to 10,000 hours.
So, this may not be unusual. Though,
using the word service might be a bad
translation since engines are serviced
with oil. I think they might be
referring to overall here, but that
translation might be lost. Uh, the CEO
of Air India indicates, quote, "No
safety concerns that were raised on this
7878
prior to the crash. There were no known
maintenance issues or red flags, which
stands in contrast with some of the
rumors we've heard online that this
plane has had maintenance issues in the
past. We've seen video of the air
conditioning not working in the cabin on
the ground. people suggesting these
planes specifically. This aircraft has
had issues with sort of the uh cabin
pooling or cabin electrical systems for
the little computer uh you know computer
screens that you see in front of your
seat and glitching out or not
functioning. But the CEO at least at the
moment suggests no known maintenance
issues or red flags that Air India has
been coordinating with Boeing at the
quote highest levels and has also
coordinated with GE regarding the GE NX
engines regarding any potential known
issues. Now this is entirely possible
here that the CEO is just sort of
washing their hands of hey we didn't
know anything. This is a terrible
tragedy. We've got both black boxes
recovered. So TBD what information is
revealed and released from this? But
what we should do right now is catch you
up to speed on why Air India 171 could
have crashed and what we know about this
accident. First, we know that the RAM
air turbine was deployed. We can audibly
hear the deployment of the RAM air
turbine. Uh and uh we can see it. Now,
this at this point, we're going to
assume we're already accepting of this
information, and this information
suggests that an electrical failure or a
dual engine failure is heavily likely.
Catching you up, since this incident
occurred 6 days ago, now it's highly
believed that a dual engine failure is
the likely cause of the Air India 171
crash. But the question is, what would
cause a dual engine failure? We already
know the ram air turbine, a little
spinning turbine that gives you the
opportunity to potentially restart your
engines or operate some basic electrical
equipment at higher altitudes like
cruise altitudes could be useful but not
very useful at 400 to 600 ft which is
all this aircraft was able to climb to
unfortunately before crashing. We also
know that there are rumors around
potentially the uh pilots setting up the
flaps instead of the gear retracting the
wrong uh uh lever essentially. This
seems unlikely based on on the ground
footage of the wings of the aircraft
appearing like they're set to a flaps 5
setting suggesting the flaps were never
fully retracted. Despite this rumor, we
do see potential evidence that the gear
was indeed commanded up, but never
actually fully went up. Uh, in fact, a
Gary B pilot has a great video on this
where he shows what the typical gear
retraction mechanism looks like on a
Boeing 787. He's a first officer and he
plays a clip here of once that gear is
commanded up, the Boeing 787 actually
tilts the tires while opening the board
doors before retracting the actual gear
of the aircraft. And based on the
footage that we could see, the crash
footage, some of the higher resolution
crash footage, and the different angles,
it's currently believed that the gear
was indeed commanded up. So, it doesn't
seem like while it's still possible, it
doesn't seem like pilot error was one of
the large contributing factors here, at
least not regarding the gear or the
flaps based on the limited information
we can have at this moment. So, this is
where we get to the topic of vapor lock
and potential electrical issues. Now, a
lot of people have a lot of issues with
vapor lock, and we're going to talk
about vapor lock in just a moment. But
what I'd like to do is first talk about
the potential of a catastrophic engine
failure here. But you see, one of the
things that we know is that when we have
a dual engine failure or an electrical
failure, we're going to get that
deployed ram air turbine, which is
exactly what we saw and we heard. In
fact, we remember that Bronco Liri has a
fantastic uh uh uh video comparison
where he shows uh the ram air turbine
deployed or at least the sound of the
ram air turbine being deployed and this
being something that we can listen to
very closely to hear. Ah, okay. That's a
distinct sound of the ram air turbine
deployment. I'll save your time and not
rehash some of this older information by
showing video clips and that we can see
that in prior videos. What matters more
is now what would cause a dual engine
failure. And so there are a few things
that c could cause a dual engine
failure. Let's for a moment start with
an electrical and fadec issue. Now this
is potentially a very convincing
argument as to why the Boeing 787 could
have had a complete loss of thrust. that
we didn't necessarily lose our engines
since we didn't see smoke or flames
coming out of the end of the uh the you
know the the rear side of the engines.
Well, it's possible the engines simply
simultaneously flamed out because of a
fuel issue or vapor lock which we could
talk about. It seems possible that
thrust was simply lost as the fedc or
the full authority digital engine
control unit potentially reset to some
kind of failsafe reversion, which is in
English a way of saying this. Imagine
you're driving a car and you have your
foot halfway down. So, pedal halfway
down to the metal, right? And you're
like, "Cool, I should be accelerating."
But then all of a sudden, a computer
says, "Uh-oh, there's some kind of
sensor or data issue. We're resetting
your throttle to zero." So now your
foot's halfway on the pedal. And you're
like, "Where did all my engine power
just go? My foot's halfway down the
pedal." Now, of course, we might, you
know, let's push. The first reaction
might be to push down more or to push
the throttle forward on the plane. But
that could be where we have to get into
spontaneous emergency procedures for re
resetting fedc control that we don't
know if those procedures were properly
trained, properly followed or if it was
even possible in the limited time this
aircraft was airborne to reset the fedc
system that full authority digital
engine control system. So in other
words, as the gear was commanded up, it
is possible that there was a sudden
surge of power in the electrical system
leading to some form of sensor failure
or some form of ECC
failure. This would be uh uh your um
your engine control center failure where
you have some form of catastrophic
cascade of electrical failures. We're
not just talking about a breaker popping
here, but some kind of electrical
failure that happens at the same time as
you go command gear up. Some form of
bizarre electrical power surge that
resets the fadec basically resetting
your throttle to zero. So in other
words, the engines didn't fail
potentially in this theory, but the
control system, the computer that
controls the throttle may have failed.
In our phenom, for example, we also have
a fadec, which means when we move the
throttle, we're not moving a cable.
We're not moving any kind of fuel valve.
We're simply telling the computer we
want more throttle. Well, if there's a
catastrophic computer failure on takeoff
or some kind of electrical failure that
leads to that, we might command throttle
and get no throttle until that fadec is
reset, which would be a critical phase
of flight to have such a failure. In
addition, if it happened at the same
time as we commanded the gear up, but
the gear isn't fully retracting because
that electrical failure hits at roughly
that same time. Now, we have the drag of
our gear down and no thrust produced by
a full weight engine on a hot day when
we need all the performance we can get.
Fewer air molecules, slower climb rate.
And unfortunately, this is where we see
in the video, it looks like the
aircraft, it doesn't stall out, nose
down. It just simply looks like it loses
lift, which is almost why some people
are starting to suggest, could this
potentially have been some kind of uh
malicious action that maybe uh either a
pilot accidentally fell on the throttle
and pulled the throttle back. That's a
rumor that's going around. I find that
somewhat unlikely. Some people are
saying maybe this was malicious and they
just pulled the throttle back. But
frankly, if this was a malicious
intention of downing this plane, you
probably wouldn't be nose up. You'd
probably be nosed down or accelerating
into some form of malicious case. So, I
really find that to be an unlikely
theory. Though, let's be real,
everything gets a percentage chance. But
this new information about the gear
potentially being commanded up,
functioning, and then all of a sudden
freezing could potentially suggest that
an engine failure was caused by some
kind of catastrophic electrical failure
that led the gear not to complete its
gear up motion. Suddenly you get the uh
complete electrical failure that leads
to a failure or a a um reversionary mode
of the fedex basically resetting the
fedc. full authority digital engine
control resetting it to zero. Meanwhile,
the pilots are unaware of why all of a
sudden they lost all thrust. They are
likely pushed the the forward rather
than even having time or going through
the procedures to reset. Frankly, there
was not even enough time to pull out a
quick reference handbook to figure out
why did I just lose fedc control? How am
I going to reset this? And it's unlikely
that losing fadec control is a memory
item in the Boeing 787.
This also doesn't appear to be a single
engine failure because we don't see the
aircraft yaw to one side. Typically, in
an engine failure, you're going to
rapidly yaw to one side. This looks like
you simply lose dual thrust at the same
time. In fact, I have a video where I
can simulate an engine failure, a single
engine failure for you, just so you
could see this. Now, mind you, the video
that I'm going to show you is from uh
training when I was brand new at flying
jet. Uh, and so the instructor is going
to pull back where the little hand here
is. It's going to pull back on one of
the throttles to simulate an engine
failure. And you should see the front of
the plane. You see that yaw right there?
That's a substantial yaw on a takeoff
that I then have to counter with rudder.
And the reason is my right engine loses
thrust and in that loss of thrust
uh my left engine is now overpowering
the aircraft. So my aircraft flying
straight loses thrust than the right. I
get more push from the left engine and
we get that yaw which is not what you
see in the Air India crash suggesting
this was not a single engine failure.
This was a dual engine failure. And I
know there are a lot of rumors around,
oh well, perhaps the pilots uh made a
mistake and and simply pulled the wrong
lever.
I I suppose this is possible, but I
don't think it would lead to a
catastrophic failure of of complete
thrust here, even if I leave the gear
down. And I've I've done plenty of
emergency procedure takeoffs where we do
uh you know 50ft goarounds and we
purposefully leave the gear out to see
how the aircraft would handle with the
gear out in training and it just isn't
an issue. Even with misconfigured flaps,
it's really unlikely that it would lead
to such a catastrophic uh here's me
going for the gear handle right here.
it's really unlikely that we would get a
catastrophic result on this takeoff uh
for the Air India accident. So this is
why electrical failure seems to be a
little bit more likely leading to a fedc
reset or a computer control failure. So
this is where you know I've put together
a little bit of a menu of what I think
the odds of this dual engine failure
are. So I think the dual engine failure
is almost certain here. Not a single for
the lack of yaw. We saw theories causing
dual engine failure. We don't see birds,
so we're going to put that at less than
10%. Pilot error, the flap gear mistake,
the falling on the throttle, the thrust
issue, you know, some kind of uh, you
know, in intentional issue potentially
here, like malicious. I put that at
under, you know, a 13% chance, maybe
even lower. Uh, we'll talk about vapor
lock in just a moment. There's obviously
the potential for maintenance issues.
Give that maybe about a 15% chance. But
I actually believe a greater chance than
the vapor lock theory that I kind of
introduced to the scene. Nobody was
talking about vapor lock until I started
talking about it. Mind you, I'm not
trying to take credit for that. I'm just
trying to say like the idea here is to
walk through these ideas and as we get
more information revise. So
this fadec control failure
is very likely given the lack of flame
out that we see out of the end or the
failure to see any kind of movement in
yaw suggesting an uneven failure of the
engines and it reiterate is reiterated
by the deployment of the ram air turbine
and then of course the lack of engine
thrust. Now what about vapor lock?
Everybody started talking about vapor
lock uh after this video that I did
right here. Critical new data engine uh
you know vapor lock engine failure and
we talk about that as a potential,
right? Uh and so we've got a few videos
that came out. This is the first time I
saw Captain Steve talk about vapor lock.
Let's see here. So I you know I I
totally agree with that. What what's the
theory? Have you heard about this vapor
lock theory? So yeah. So let me throw
out another one to you. Okay. Okay. So,
it's 40. I saw I saw one mear line that
said it was 43 Celsius there. That's
like 110 or 112 degrees. That's really
hot. Right. Right. So, they're going to
have a much longer takeoff roll as a
result of that. And this is where they
kind of first initially start talking
about vapor lock. Talked about the gear
over here. Uh, and then this is actually
where Captain Steve really goes into
talking about vapor lock. Uh, and he has
a whole segment on it. Take a listen.
been asking me to explain to all of you
what vapor lock is. Okay. Uh again, you
can big P small P with vapor lock if you
want. There's going to be lots of strong
opinions about vapor lock, but we can't
exclude vapor lock completely. Now, a
lot of folks, let me answer the possible
objections about vapor lock before I get
into what it is. Some of the objections
are, oh, that only happens in piston
engines or that only happens in
carbureted engines. It doesn't make any
difference what type of engine we're
talking about. This is something that
happens to the fuel before it reaches
the engine. So, it can happen in a
turbine engine. It can happen in a reip.
It can happen in a piston engine,
carbureted or non-carbured. It can
happen in every type of engine because
it's something that happens to the fuel.
Now, I've got a great article here. I
want to read it to you and I got to put
my glasses on cuz I've been going for
about 20 hours straight.
This is basically where he gets into
talking about the potential for vapor
lock and how it can happen in jet
engines. Uh and I'll give a quick
explanation uh of this using actually uh
you know a liquid here. I've got a
colored vegetable oil here and this is
really just to give a visualization. So
um I don't actually believe and I want
to be clear about this. I don't actually
believe this is the primary likely cause
anymore of the Air India crash. Like I
said, as I've posted here, I think it's
less than a 20% chance that vapor lock
or this fuel issue contributed to a dual
flame out of both of the engines, but it
definitely is a chance. And Captain
Steve provides an update on exactly the
vapor lock that we introduced to the
scene. But let's explain it quickly.
Typically, you have a pressurized
system. Imagine I squeeze this bottle
really hard and I always basically have
this oil or fuel and you know in the
case of a jet engine it' be jet fuel
pressured the lines are always going to
be pressured right so imagine I'm
pushing at the back okay these are fuel
pumps fuel pumps are electrically driven
is it possible that we had a dual fuel
pump failure of course absolutely
possible that we had a dual fuel pump
failure because of some catastrophic
electrical issue but This seems like it
would be odd because we also have
battery backups, right? We switch to
batteries. I can while I'm flying, and I
don't do this while I'm flying. I do it
during my testing on the ground, but I
can push a button called electrical
emergency, and I will cut off every bit
of electricity to any non-essential
component of the plane, and I can run
off my batteries and my backup batteries
for 30 to 40 minutes. uh and and I can
still fly the plane and and have my
primary flight displays and and whatever
equipment that I need through a
simulated electrical emergency. My fuel
pumps are going to operate under this
situation. Again, this is why it's so
interesting that potentially could you
have had a fadec failsafe reversionary
mode where thrust goes to zero based on
the computer due to some electrical
failure or sensor failure seems much
more likely uh than a dual fuel pump
failure because fuel pumps are going to
provide pressure. When you lose your
fuel pumps though, you go to a
suctionbased system which is basically
the engine is sucking fuel and that
vacuum that it creates essentially pulls
uh fuel into the engine which basically
there are little sprayers inside of the
actual engine that atomize the fuel uh
and and and ignite uh to create thrust
inside of the turbine. Okay. Now, if the
suction system, which is, you know, all
no longer pressurized, you no longer
have somebody pushing at the end, you're
just operating now on, you know, a fuel
line that's operating off of suction,
which is fine. But what happens on very
high heat days where inside of the cabin
you're also not operating the air
conditioning which is what we had seen
during uh the pre-takeoff on tarmac
footage of the plane. Is it possible you
have vapor lock because the cooling is
not enabling fuel lines inside the
fuselage of the plane to be properly
cooled. Possible.
I still give it a smaller likelihood
because you know our wings are obviously
separate. Yes, we get heat from the
ground. Uh you know the the you know
unused fuel recirculates back into the
tanks which can warm this up. But these
are all normal procedures. So you'd
really on takeoff have to imagine that
the fuel lines became so hot that they
vaporized the jet fuel which can happen
less likely than obviously on on a
piston engine but can happen. You
vaporize. So you create water in the
fuel pump line. Now you lose your fuel
pump, your both engines fuel pumps and
you're left with suction. Now you go
take off with vapor in the line. And
then what happens when you're nose high?
See that you as your nose high only
operating off suction without pressure.
You potentially get a moment a momentary
loss of fuel. Right? As you're nose high
tilting on your climb, that vapor uh
leads to a temporary flame out. Uh
unfortunately, you're not going to have
enough time to relight the engines. So,
is it possible? Yeah. I don't think it's
as probable as a fade control issue
based on the deployment of the RAT. Uh
because we wouldn't necessarily have had
a RAT deployment uh until later in the
sequence where you actually lost
of fuel flow to both engines. It looked
like you had no yaw, which implies that
they shut down at exactly the same time,
which would also be weird that both
engines perfectly vapor locked at
exactly the same time with no yaw. And
that rat came out so quickly, which may
have taken longer had you had a flame
out versus an immediate electrical
failure. So, this is why I'm now
reducing the odds for some form of vapor
lock issue and am heavily focusing with,
in my opinion, and obviously we'll see
when the blackbox data comes out, but in
my opinion, some form of failsafe
reversion to zero thrust and an
inability to reset the fadec to get
thrust back. And it also aligns with
what we hear about uh a potential mayday
call that indicated no thrust, no power.
both of those align. So that's my latest
on what's going on with the Air India
crash, Air India crash update and
hopefully it puts together some of the
pieces of the puzzle. Obviously as more
data comes out, we'll keep providing
more updates. So follow for more. Why
not advertise these things that you told
us here? I feel like nobody else knows
about this. We'll we'll try a little
advertising and see how it goes.
Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you. Kevin Praath there, financial
analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always
great to get your take.
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