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A lot of folks are freaking out about

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the auto market because you've got

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platforms like the Financial Times

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saying an auto lenders bust signals

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strain in the financial health of US

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households and they're making this

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argument that hey the collapse the

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sudden quote messy collapse of

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triricolor where banks like JP Morgan

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and Barclays are potentially losing

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hundreds of millions of dollars came as

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a shock and maybe It's a sign that

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households are much weaker than we

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think. I mean, this comes as we've

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already been seeing articles like this

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where here we've covered this a few

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months ago where cars are so expensive

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that buyers now need 7-year car loans.

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And if you look at the chart of the

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change over time of financing

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arrangements that car buyers have been

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using, you can see the black line, which

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is the five-year line, has fallen from

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50% of car loans being 5-year loans in

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2005, 20 years later, down to less than

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10%. Actually, that's probably about

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18%. Yeah, less than 20%. Whereas,

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what's happening at the same time is

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seven-year car loans, which used to

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represent 1.8% 8% of the market have

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risen to over 20% of the markets uh uh

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you know share. Now, it's understandable

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like yes, households are getting

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squeezed. Rates are high. So, we extend

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loan terms not just on uh cars, but

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you're also seeing extended loan terms

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on housing with now 40-year interestonly

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loans with amortization periods built in

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and fixed rates built in being sold to

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try to create some private market

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competition to the Fannies and Freddy's

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of the world who are doing your

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traditional 30-year fix. Okay, it's

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understandable. When rates are high,

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this is what happens. So yes, there is

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consumer stress amongst the sadly lower

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50% of American households. This we

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already know. But is it really a sign of

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the financial health of the broad set of

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US households that

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all of a sudden went straight to

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bankruptcy which mind you was mind you

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is very unusual for a company with

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potentially a billion dollars of debt or

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over a billion dollars in debt and

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$25,000 different creditors to go

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straight to bankruptcy. In fact, that's

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you know Bloomberg has a whole piece on

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this. They talk about uh personal items

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are locked away in Trricolor's

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facilities. Uh unusual nature of a

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subprime auto lender going straight to

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Chapter 7 liquidation. They have a whole

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article basically about how unique this

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is. While at the same time, of course,

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you also have companies, you know, like

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the Wall Street Journal reporting an

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exclusive here yesterday that Ford is

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courting riskier borrowers with lower

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rates for F-150 pickup trucks. Keep in

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mind Tesla is doing this as well.

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Tesla's doing like 0% financing. If

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you're a repeat customer, they'll give

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you $1,000 off. You'll get the tax

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credit. Like, these companies are doing

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everything they can right now to throw

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sales up. And it makes sense. I think

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it's partly one of the reasons why Tesla

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is so high right now as as people

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markets are pre-anticipating

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really, really good delivery numbers for

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Tesla. Potentially the best delivery

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numbers that we've seen in the last 3

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years. Like going back to 2021,

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these could be the best delivery numbers

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for Tesla because of that massive $7,500

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expiring tax credit on September 30th,

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which is in 6 days. So, it totally makes

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sense to me. But anyway, take a look at

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this. Ford is racing to sell more F-150

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pickup trucks this quarter by offering

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lower interest rates to borrowers with

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the weakest acceptable credit histories.

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This is where we start walking down a

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dangerous path. And you're going to see

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some crazy insights here in just a

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moment on TriRicaller on, you know,

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maybe this wasn't exactly a larger

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financial health issue, but potentially

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more of an immigration and uh targeted

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ignorance and maybe even fraud,

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bankruptcy. We've got to talk about

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that. Just remember though, my

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bankruptcy, not only is Ford looking at

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riskier borrowers, but was famous for

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this. Look at this line right here. In a

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bond deal this year, Triricirricolor

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disclosed that 68% of its borrowers had

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no credit score at all. And over half of

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thericolor borrowers had no driver's

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license. Wait, how are you selling cars

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to people who don't even have a driver's

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license? This is a little sus. So, we go

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look at the website for the company and

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their pitch, which now it says, "Thank

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you for visiting Triricolor. We are no

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longer offering financing, but uh hey,

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um please continue to make your payments

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if you owe us money because we're

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bankrupt and we really need the money."

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And then the whole pitch here is find

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the best cars without a credit score or

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social. It seems like they're purposely

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trying to basically lend to illegal

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immigrants in Texas. And it wouldn't be

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surprising to me that you crossed the

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border from El Paso, uh, you know, or

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through El Paso under the Biden

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administration and then Triricolor is

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like, "Hey, what? No social financing?

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No problem. All you need is proof of

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address, proof of income, and ID."

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Notice how it says you don't need a

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driver's license. It literally says your

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passport works. It's because a lot of

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people will come with a Mexican passport

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or, you know, a Chinese passport or

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whatever and they're looking for a car,

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which makes sense. You typically need a

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car in America to to get anything done,

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unlike in Europe where you could get

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around often with a bike. But look at

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some of the items that you have on their

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website. Does a bank provide financing

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forric? Uh, no. We do it and we do it

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without credit or social. Now, it's

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interesting the way they wrote this

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because usually you would say no social

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security number or without credit or

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social security number. But by saying

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no, without credit or social, it it

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seems to like target more of that

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Hispanic community, which is what this

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company is known for. You may apply for

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financing without a credit history. And

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having a social security number is not a

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requirement for applying for a loan at

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Tricolor. Takes about 30 uh minutes to

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get an application done. And you can get

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in for as low as $1,600 with some weird

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grammatical mistypings on the website

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here. Uh now when we go a little bit

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further into Yelp reviews for the

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company, anytime I seericolor, I see low

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reviews and these are before the

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bankruptcy. But when we actually go into

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some of the reviews, listen to this from

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2019. They're doing illegal stuff over

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there. And we don't we can't corroborate

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this. This is just a Yelp review from

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2019, right? They're doing illegal stuff

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over there. My son purchased a car and

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they knew he was not making enough

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money. So the lady there doctorred the

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paychucks paycheck stuff so he could get

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the car. They catered to the Hispanic

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community and they sell garbage broken

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down cars. When the car broke down, we

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tried to make weekly payments of $50. We

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tried to have the car voluntarily

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repossessed. They refused. They just

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wanted their money back, which I mean in

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fairness that makes sense. They are a

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lender. uh salesman came out in Pleasant

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Grove and spoke almost no English. I

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could tell he was trying to help, but

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their pricing was ridiculous. Here's a

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review I had to translate. Uh it says,

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"I made a hu mistake, huge mistake of

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allowing the a dealership employee to

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write a positive review on my behalf.

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She asked me to and I did while being

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recorded signing the electronic contract

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in the back office. I de later I later

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deleted the review because it did not

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reflect my true experience, but they

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continued to display it on their website

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without my authorization, even though I

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already sent them an email demanding

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they remove it. I was told I could

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refinance the car later, but when I

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sought professional advice, they

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informed me the price of the vehicle was

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extremely inflated and no reputable bank

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would finance it for that amount.

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Clearly, they sold me an overpriced car.

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Although they say you sign at your own

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free will, the process was manipulative

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and pressure-filled. I no longer wanted

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the car. I left the back office as I was

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signing the electronic contract to

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inform them. They made me feel that

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being afraid was normal and convinced me

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to continue. Anyway, this goes on. So,

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really what you got is a company that

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just seems like a blatant fraud. Uh, and

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that's why they're being investigated by

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the Justice Department. And that's why

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now, you know, they there are reports

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that they owe a billion dollars to over

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25,000 credit card uh credit uh

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creditors. And you can see here being

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investigated by the Justice Department.

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This to me is not necessarily a sign

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beyond what we already know that you

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know the bottom 50% of consumers are

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struggling. But this company going

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bankrupt. People are wondering Kevin is

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this like a Leman moment. To me this is

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a moment where you have banks

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purposefully blind to credit risks. And

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take a look at some of these lines

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because it's not not justricolor but

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it's also first brand group which first

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brand group was doing something really

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interesting where they had invoices or

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money that they were owed for supplies

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for uh you know vehicle parts and then

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they would basically do a payday advance

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on those invoices to get money sooner

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because their credit situation was so

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crappy. they also are going bankrupt.

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And so you have people declaring here

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where these loans have lost like 90% of

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their value in the span of a day. 90%

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drop in a day. You have people literally

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quoting to the Financial Times. The

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shocking part of it, the investor said

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JP Morgan is one of the most

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sophisticated lenders in the world. How

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the hell could they have missed this?

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I'll tell you how they could have missed

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this. They don't care. JP Morgan is not

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a great bank. It is a big bank. That's a

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really big difference. And I think it's

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really valuable to think about that

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difference for a moment. Just because

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you're a big Goliath doesn't make you

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anything more than a big fat buffoon.

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That's my take when it comes to JP

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Morgan. I actually think a lot of their

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products and their services are really

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antiquated. I could rant about them for

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a long time, but that's just my personal

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opinion and my experience. So, I went to

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a different uh well, multiple different

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uh banks, still bank at large banks as

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well. But what I found my my most

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favorite experience has has been with uh

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a fintech uh and I have an affiliate

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Again, that is an affiliate link. Uh,

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but I'm not like officially sponsored by

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them. And it's my opinion that JP Morgan

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sucks. But you have to realize JP Morgan

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is a giant buffoon who is too big to

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fail. It's one of the reasons I went to

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JP Morgan because I thought, "Oh, you

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know, I don't want to be at a smaller

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bank. I I want to be at, you know, a too

12:24

big to fail bank." But then drone Powell

12:26

basically told us that the entire

12:27

banking sector and FDIC limits don't

12:30

matter. We're bailing out everybody

12:32

remember during the banking crisis in

12:33

2023. So really doesn't matter. Like the

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Fed's going to backs stop the banking

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industry. It's my opinion, you know, #

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no guarantees. But the point here that's

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really interesting is you have like

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investors that are saying, "How could JP

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Morgan miss this?" Because they're dumb.

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It doesn't matter. They're too big to

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fail. They don't actually want to look

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too deep because they want to make the

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loan. They get their commissions and

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move on. Who cares? Guess who ends up

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losing the money? You think JP Morgan

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really gets left holding the bag? It's

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all the people buying these bonds.

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They're the ones who get hold left

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holding the bag. What you've really done

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is you've made you've you have bankers

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like JP Morgan put together a pile of

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crap and then they securitize it with a

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AAA rating or whatever just like oh my

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gosh imagine this 2008 that's exactly

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what happened then. Now, you might be

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like, "Oh, well, Kevin, where's this AAA

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rating talk coming from?" Right here,

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Tricircolor based on despite all you saw

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about Triricolor with like fraud on Yelp

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or all these allegations, right? How

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their website looks, the typos on their

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website, like all this stuff, and how

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they're literally bragging about not

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using credit, which is like, you know,

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red flag number one that you're going to

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get people who are probably going to be

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delinquent. Uh, Triricolor had won a

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pristine AAA rating as it borrowed in

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credit markets while first brand uh uh

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brands may have amassed as much as $10

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billion in offbalance sheet financing.

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Now, these companies didn't report to

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the SEC like there are a lot of private

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companies that report financials to the

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SEC. Like House Hack, we report to the

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SEC, you know, we report. But there are

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a lot of private companies that don't.

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And so this kind of stuff just gets

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hidden. And now uh the Financial Times

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is like, "Oh, is this is this a one-off

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incident or are there cracks in the

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credit market?" Uh you know, this is

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going to end up leading others to become

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more gunshy. And this is true. This is

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how like the cycle starts, right? The

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cycle starts with excessive lending.

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Then the frauds go out. When the frauds

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go out, then investors who thought the

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big banks had their back start waking up

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and realizing, man, you know, maybe we

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don't want to invest in all these crazy

14:39

credit opportunities that are offering

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these crazy high yields because they're

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super high risk. And then you get

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Columbia University's business school

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saying, oh, failure could prompt

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investors to be more cautious. You

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think?

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No duh.

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Ratings agencies will scrutinize deals

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more, which means the availability of

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credit may be somewhat reduced. Of

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course, First Brands is negotiating for

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the res for rescue financing from

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lenders uh to plug an urgent liquidity

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hole. The debt is selling for just

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pennies on the dollar. Lenders had poor

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visibility into invoicebacked financing

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at the at First Brands. Yeah, it's a

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payday loan, bro. Like, like you don't

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need a lot of visibility to know that

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you're going to end up getting burned. I

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It's just straight obvious.

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But apparently people are surprised uh

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by these styles of loans financing

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technique that allows companies to sell

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outstanding customer invoices to banks

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or investors in return for upfront cash.

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Payday loan

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and the their actual fundamentals kept

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mostly private. We don't know. And then

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the rating agencies, they don't talk to

15:48

each other. This is just like 2008 all

15:50

over again where like you could get an A

15:52

rating from one because they think you

15:54

only have one set of debt, but you

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actually have three times as much debt

15:57

as you're letting on. This is exactly

15:59

how Bill Huang got whacked. You know, he

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ended up being able to leverage like a

16:05

$20 million portfolio into billions of

16:08

dollars

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by going to multiple different banks,

16:12

pledging the same securities, and

16:13

getting margin loans against the same

16:15

assets at multiple different banks.

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banks don't care. They just want their

16:20

money and then they end up getting, you

16:21

know, burned and then what? The Fed

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comes and bails them out. It's it's

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basically like crony capitalism for the

16:28

big banks. And so now, bottom line out

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of all this, is this situation something

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where like, oh my gosh, I'm like nervous

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this could be bad for the whole market?

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No. Because there's so much greed in

16:40

markets right now that it doesn't really

16:42

matter. Okay, who cares? Like, they made

16:44

a little poopsy doopsies. These

16:45

companies are going to go bankrupt.

16:46

everybody's going to forget about them

16:47

in 6 months and it's not going to

16:48

matter. The only way it matters is if

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credit standards really start tightening

16:52

up and frankly it's not likely to happen

16:54

because you've got companies like Oracle

16:56

or other companies that are now

16:57

financing against Nvidia chips. I mean

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Oracle literally just this morning came

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out with a seven-part series of

17:04

unsecured notes. These aren't

17:06

convertibles. These are just straight

17:07

debt uh at about 134 basis point premium

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over the equivalent treasuries. 5-year

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note, seven-year note, 10 year note,

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20-year note, 30-year note. I think they

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even got a 50-year note. They got a

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bunch of notes because they're financing

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to borrow, borrow, borrow, borrow. It

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will end in a giant collapse one day.

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The thing is, nobody knows when. But

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right now, we're still in this

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environment of massive greed and the

17:31

accumulation of debt where, you know,

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some of these frauds going BK eh gets

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written off and people move on. But the

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too big to fail button is going to come

17:41

again and history is going to look just

17:44

like 2008 again. Uh is it a sign that

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the bubble is popping now? No. Is it

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concerning that debt markets can write

17:51

off an investment 90% in a day like we

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saw withricolor?

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Yes. That's wild. I mean they're not

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even going to reorganization. You know,

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the fact that they're going straight to

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liquidation is scary. See, Chapter 7

18:07

trustes are required by statute to move

18:09

fast, unlike chapter 11. The speed can

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mean selling assets at a discount,

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potentially reducing what creditors get

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back. Sure, well, you're also going to

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sandbag, you know, the valuation of

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these used cars, which if a lot of them

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were being sold to illegal immigrants,

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it does make you wonder if a lot of them

18:26

are just being deported and the reason

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they're not able to make their payments

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is because they got deported. So, it

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could be Trump's fault. You know, this

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could just be the the perfect storm

18:37

forricolor, but not necessarily, in my

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opinion, a you know, massive systemic

18:42

risk of some sort

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>> knows about this.

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>> Kevin Pra there, financial analyst and

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YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to

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