**THIS** Inflection JUST Happened in the Market
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hey everyone me kevin here market update
okay we've got to talk about consumers
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first let's get into consumers i want to
talk about the federal reserve regarding
their view of consumers and information
that they just released and also some
recent earnings calls because i think
they're really important watching the
consumer is really critical right now
and a course member uh wanted to point
out this point this particular line out
to me and i thought it's great so every
thursday the federal reserve releases
which what's known as an h8
and they noticed that in the month of uh
march here uh consumer loans in the form
of credit cards or other revolving plans
had jumped 34
uh and this was really interesting so we
pulled this report up in the course
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loans went up at about a rate this is an
annualized rate so when you see these
numbers this is not how much they went
up in a month it's the annualized rate
that they went up and so we went up at
an annualized rate of consumer debt of
23 in march and 34 in credit card and
revolving debt now i don't know if
that's like i mean to me it sounds like
good news for a firm but it also sounds
like there's a little bit more pressure
on the underlying consumer for
potentially lower income individuals
right this morning we talked about visa
earnings and what we learned from visa
was actually really really shocking and
just to sort of digress to that for a
moment uh visa told us that pent-up
demand for travel is very very high that
there are early indications that
spending is going to be very good that
they're bullish on how fast things have
recovered and as you saw in in january
the recovery has been very robust but
beyond that some of the shockers from
visa which relate to this kind of
spending where that debit and credit
card spend was up 45 percent uh from
sorry what do we got here uh april spend
was up 45
from three years ago this is incredible
three years ago uh being not 21 20 but
19 right we're comparing to 2019 it's
crazy to think that that's uh uh you
know three years ago but anyway look at
this e-commerce spend e-commerce folks
both domestic and cross-border has
remained strong and stable relative to
trend lines and the other thing they
talked a lot about in their earnings
report was that affluent customers were
spending more money so it kind of makes
me wonder is there this possibility
that uh the affluent customers are
spending more and that poor customers
are spending less right here it is in q2
affluent credit card spending was well
above 2019 levels and this is what they
regularly talked about in their earnings
report and so when we look at this fed
report here it's kind of interesting
because it's like well consumer loans
are going up at the fastest annual pace
we've seen this year sort of we zoom out
over here when we look at the prior
quarters of the annualized rates of
increases in loans
nowhere do you see anything even over 20
percent and all of a sudden you see an
explosion over here in consumer debt
even as affluent customers are spending
more so it's probably those making less
than seventy thousand under fifty
thousand dollars a year those are
probably the ones the individuals
unfortunately getting saddled with more
debt here
which is not good but then makes you
wonder like if the wealthier people just
keep spending could that keep us out of
a recession i have no idea you know but
these are things to pay attention to
this is an inflection point that i
definitely want to pay attention to but
i also want to pay attention uh to what
we're hearing from uh from other sort of
maybe more discretionary purchase items
right because we look at the manheim
used vehicle index what do we see we see
used car prices going down the manhunt
vehicle index was one of the reasons we
saw uh
inflation core inflation cpr
fall well not fall but but
inflate at a much lower rate we were
going up at a rate of an annualized rate
of about 3.6 percent which is really
really low and a lot of that was almost
entirely uh it was this was below
expectations was driven by used car
prices falling they've been falling for
about the last uh two months or so so
very interesting that you've got these
used car prices falling you see which is
deflationary right you see or
disinflationary you should say you see
consumer debt going up while at the same
time people are still spending money
like crazy but i want to show you this
other earnings report because it tells
us something interesting as well but of
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the earnings report uh a call that i
want to refer to uh has to do with
harley davidson now there are a few more
reports we're going to look at here i'm
going to talk about chipotle i'm going
to talk about craft and t-mobile and and
some others brief touch on end phase and
google but i really want to talk about
uh what we saw going on at
harley-davidson so uh first of all
harley-davidson is not yet seeing a
decline in in or an increase in
inventory in fact inventory levels are
still down 24
and they're getting so much demand uh
that they're actually really confident
about uh
their business going forward now see
some folks like to say oh but kevin
earnings reports are lagging indicators
i'm like maybe the earnings report
themselves are because that makes sense
you know here we are on april 27th
talking about jan 1 to jan or to march
31 right that's old news but you know
what's current news is when you get this
demand signals are strong we're getting
from our dealers that confirm the
signals we're getting from our dealers
confirm that demand for product is very
strong these are leading indicators or
or at least current indicators right
they're telling you that right now at
this moment us as executives of a
business that sells goods and services
are seeing spending go up which
reiterates what we saw at jpmorgan it
reiterates what we saw at delta
reiterates what we saw at american
express
visa everyone who's reporting is like
the consumer spending more now part of
me gets concerned that does that mean
we're like an o6 all over again right
but in addition to seeing this demand
what i thought was quite fascinating
was uh they talk about continuing to
deal with the semiconductor shortage and
dealing with those cost inflationary
pressures which are actually what they
call similar or consistent with what
they experience in the back half of 2021
so in other words no big improvement
there yet on the semiconductor
front and they do show that there's a
continuing high demand and reservation
request for their products so this is a
really good sign that
you know people are not fully cutting
back on those discretionaries yet now i
know consumer discretionary stocks are
getting destroyed because everybody
thinks the consumer is going to pull
back but like visa told us e-commerce is
still doing well and this is so weird
because it makes me wonder like is this
an opportunity to get into uh you know
ecom stocks that have just gotten
decimated i don't know yet uh but it's
something i'm paying attention to
because look at this it's a mix because
e-commerce turns out oh well this has to
do with ticket sizes we talked about
that a little bit this morning
but look at this regarding inflationary
times right
quote net net
it's a positive for us inflation we have
not seen any impact on discretionary
spending that we can discern keep in
mind they make up 43
of the markets spend on cards that's
insane if anything discretionary
spending especially from affluent
customers and credit card holders has
been going up quite healthily it's crazy
absolutely crazy so what do we learn
when we go to some of the others i'm
going to give you a little bit more of a
summary over here uh first craft
confident about our production but we
are also growing consumption that is for
their warehousing and rebuilding their
inventory levels and they believe that
by rebuilding their inventory levels
they're actually going to be able to
sell more product because demand is
still consistent despite the fact that
they're raising prices so they see a lot
of elasticity of demand in other words
people are not dropping off uh because
of of their pricing now another thing
that's really cool that or i don't know
if it's cool but it's happening
is businesses are actually pricing ahead
of inflation a little bit so let's draw
that out for a minute and try to
understand that so watch this okay so
let's say this is january right here and
and you're the ceo and you're like ah
crap inflation's doing this
uh why don't we set a pricing uh regime
that says hey we're matched with
inflation let's say right now why don't
we just shoot ahead of the running gear
so to speak and uh and start
raising our pricing like this so that
way when we hit these inflationary times
rather than reacting to the higher
inflation we've already raised our
prices and we can kind of like let the
inflation grow into our pricing and then
hopefully that that inflation comes down
and then we're good with our pricing
right that's crazy that craft is telling
you that they're doing this but they're
not the only one tesla does the same
thing elon was just saying that on his
earnings call that they're pricing ahead
of inflation they're anticipating the
inflation and pricing in uh hopefully
that's good news that in the future we
would get some kind of like reduction or
fall right uh but uh who knows so anyway
that's that's quite interesting for
kraft
for uh chipotle
uh same thing over here they're seeing a
lot of commodity inflation to the tune
of 12 to 13
food inflation is in the 31 range which
is uh also quite uh quite wild there it
is a 31
uh another thing from chipotle's report
that was quite interesting was over here
which was that chipotle's margins
at 25
dude that's incredible now i they do
mean gross margins right because usually
with a business you're taking down like
10 to the bottom line let me give you
their current bottom line margins but
still that's a pretty amazing margin
yeah okay so they're aiming for 25
wall street has them at 23.4 gross
profit their net margin is closer to
10.2 so that's a little bit more along
expectations a lot of higher costs for
beef avocados paper labor costs going up
about 140 bips
they repurchase stock at
14.90 so it gives you a little bit of a
feeling in terms of where the executives
feel the value might be
for for the company
and then they're also working on an
autonomous robot called chippy which
makes chips because i guess the
employees don't like making chips so
they're like fine we'll we'll make a
robot that'll make the chips for you but
here's a big one right here look at this
and this right here is the big one for
consumers i mean obviously says the ceo
what we've seen is very little
resistance for pricing so far the
consumer's like
all right inflation stuff's getting more
expensive yeah this is annoying but
still gonna spend broskie
it's uh remarkable so look none of these
are recessionary indicators right these
these could be cons there could be
concerns that maybe this is the big
spend that happens before a recession
but remember for you to get a recession
you need you need negative spend you
need people pulling back uh and we're
not seeing it yet so far and that's why
i tweeted something i made this i mean i
stole the picture but then i put the
text over it okay so i'm trying to take
credit for this because i thought of it
but i like it i actually think it's very
appropriate so the left here is what we
saw in 2020. i remember making videos in
2020 and people like kevin this is
stupid like the economy is on fire and
the stock market's acting like a child
on a swing like why is it so
disconnected from reality right and uh
what do we have right now look at this
2020 stock market on frickin fire
as in bad and the economy is what's
doing well anyway check out extra via
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