a message to investors & business owners [daily wealth]
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Hey everyone, me Kevin here. This is a
message to all business owners and
investors as well as homeowners who
might not know what happened in 2007 or
even in the dot bubble. And I think it's
worth mentioning it now since we're
basically knocking on the door of
alltime highs just so you have it on
your radar and it's something that's in
the back of your mind. No, this isn't
some like bare video on a market
prognostication or whatever. the
market's V-shaped recovered ever since
we've been talking about setting
trailing stops just in case a bottom
falls out again. And none of those
should have triggered. It's been
straight up. It's been great.
Again, macroecon video. This is more of
a daily wealth style topic. Again, for
those of you with money, uh, or at least
debt.
So, everyone, okay, here's the thing.
I've mentioned in the past how it's
desirable, at least in these times right
now, to have a home equity line of
credit because if you have a traditional
loan at, let's say, 2.99% or whatever,
and you want some equity out of your
home, you can pull a home equity line of
credit and you could utilize that for
your business or for an investment or
really whatever purpose you want.
Especially if you use it for an
investment or business, you get to write
off the taxes on it, which is great. A
lot of people do this as well with
margin. And that's fine and dandy, but
here's one of the things to know. If
you're using margin on index uh style
funds like the Q's or the S&P 500, this
is less important. If you're using
margin, if they even let you, on
leveraged ETFs or on single stocks or
you have a credit line, business line of
credit or any kind of larger bank line,
here's what happened in the dotcom
bubble in 2007 and is likely to happen
again. when and if things start getting
shaky for banks where banks actually get
nervous, you know, like I don't know,
the CEO of the largest bank in the world
going on TV saying storm clouds are
approaching and we're not interested in
private credit right now and things
could get bad in the second half of the
year. Not like anybody like Jamie J uh
would say such things, but once that
starts happening, it's an early warning
sign that some of history could repeat
itself. There are people today that have
this sort of delusion that there will
never be a recession again because the
Federal Reserve will always print their
way out of it. This is very very very
dangerous because the Federal Reserve is
almost certain to be late. Remember our
peak crisis in 2008 was uh September of
2008. Our peak crisis in the dotcom
bubble was around the middle to end of
2002. The Federal Reserve was at least 6
to9 months late in both of those cases.
CO was a little bit of an anomaly. But
here's what happens with these banking
institutions. They can actually change
the ratio of your margin debt. So for
example, let's say you have margin on
Tesla stock and it says, "Hey, you need,
you know, to maintain at least 25% or or
whatever. That's your margin rate,
right?" They can adjust that and say,
"JK, you know, we think things are
getting shaky and volatility is going
up. We're going to bump it to 50% or
100%."
For a lot of people, that could almost
instantaneously trigger a margin call.
Broker dealers by right, by law, by
FINRA regulations can adjust margin for
any reason at any time. Most people
don't know that in their fine print in
their broker dealer contracts.
Please, I do encourage you to fact check
this with your own broker dealer
contracts. Upload them to AI. Do
whatever you want. I'm just referring to
the historical and what I learned when I
went ran through uh the broker dealer
licensing. The problem with that is they
can do the same thing with credit lines
at banks. So if you have a credit line,
a business line of credit or a home
equity line of credit, uh there is a
case or there are cases where banks will
not only freeze the line, we saw that a
lot in 2007 where they freeze the line.
They basically say, "Hey, no more
draws." But some types of loans, they
can actually even call them due and
payable or even potentially terminate
your relationship entirely with a bank
or broker dealer if they find you to be
too risky for whatever reason. That kind
of stuff happens in recessionary
environments or even leading into them.
It certainly obviously gets a lot worse
if you're in an actual recessionary
environment. Hopefully, it doesn't
happen. But the big message of this is
do be aware that if you are a business
and you're not diversifying that credit
risk you have and let's say you're all
in on margin at one broker dealer, it
might be worth diversifying some of that
margin to be, you know, against an index
fund or not have margin. Imagine that.
Set a stop-loss, right? Or uh make sure
you diversify where you have if you've
got a home equity line of credit at one
bank, maybe you have your business line
of credit at another bank.
it's uncommon for them to call a loan uh
do and payable and rather than just
freeze it, right? So, this could be just
extreme conservativism,
but it's something that I would rather
people think about in an environment now
where prices are very high and just keep
that in mind for your business planning
in the future. I'll give you an example.
Uh when I went to get a plane loan from
JP Morgan, they uh wanted to have what
was called a remargining provision where
basically they'd be able to reappraise
the aircraft every year if they wanted
to and and if they didn't like the value
or they thought the value had gone down
a little bit, they could basically call
you and say, "All right, now we want you
to add a million or $2 million or pay
off a part of the loan." And that's
crazy because, you know, that's the kind
of stuff that happens in bottoms, right?
where like you want to be buying the dip
on stocks and then you have some stupid
banker who's like high on the compliance
horse uh and they're panicking because
they're running out of money or they're
getting, you know, reamed in Congress
for some kind of new banking crisis or
whatever. Uh and you don't want to be in
that situation like that. So, what I did
is I actually told JP Morgan to go pound
sand. I go, "Thanks for the 15-year
relationship. You guys screwed me on my
plane loan. It's fine." Like, I didn't
do a loan with them because I I'm not
going to put myself in that situation.
So, I have a like the plane loan I have
is 20-year fixed. There's no prepayment
penalty. There's no opportunity to call
the loan. Like, there's no accelerated
clause in the contract unless obviously
you don't make your payments, right? But
that's on any loan. Uh so, like just
make your payments. Okay, fine. But
understand that business lines of
credit, some home equity lines of
credit, less so on home equity lines of
credit just because homeowners are so
protected, but definitely business lines
of credit. uh watch out for margin
especially a lot of people don't realize
that they could change the ratios and
the rules on you at any given moment and
that's a really big risk factor for I
think a lot of investors because there
is this belief that oh I'm so far away
from the you know margin call threshold
or whatever like who cares like you know
stocks that have to drop by 90% to get
margin called maybe they only have to
drop by 40% if they change the the
formula at the bottom now brokers don't
want to do that because they would lose
customers but they'll gladly do that if
it means protecting themselves from
going going bankrupt, right? Not saying
that happen, but if there are sudden
short-term shocks, these are the type of
things just to have in the back of your
mind. Hopefully, this never happens.
Hopefully, this is just the most
overblown, you know, worry wart kind of
conservativism video. But look, when I
put it this way, I think it should make
sense to you. House hack, we have over
$60 million of real estate assets, $13
million sitting in the bank. Why do I
say that? It's because we don't have any
margin. We don't have any bank debt. You
know, we've got a few convertible bonds
obviously because that's what we're
raising right now. You know, you invest
nonredit investor 5% yield plus the
upside in the stock, whatever. But we're
like super conservative and I know that
there are a lot of people with this mega
FOMO of like, oh, deploy it. You know,
why don't you buy Bitcoin with your 13
while you wait to buy real estate in Q3,
Q4? Oh, you know, why don't you uh go
buy stocks? Like, sure, we could buy
stocks. Sure, we could buy Bitcoin. Are
we going to do that right now? No.
Because I like the Warren Buffett
phrase. The Warren Buffett phrase that I
love is the best call option in the
world in uncertain times is cash.
Because it's a call option with no
expiration date and it's available on
every single asset class class. In other
words, that cash you have is a call
option on every asset class that exists
in America and there's no expiration
date. That's a fantastic way to look at
money and that's how we're looking at
money with with house hacking.
Obviously, you know, we're throwing
money in money markets or six-month
treasuries or whatever while while, you
know, while we're developing or
designing and and preparing to buy. Uh
so that way we're, you know, not losing
money uh on our capital. That's exactly
what Warren Buffett does as well. But I
think it's important for a lot of people
to think about that. I love that House
Hack owes zero to banks. I love that I
personally don't have margin debt or any
kind of debt that could be called. I
have no callable debt, no margin,
nothing. Like that's a great place to be
in. I can never get called by a banker
and be like, "F you, pay up. It can't
happen." Uh, and I think that while it's
really fun on the way up, you know,
credit and margin, all that, I do think
this is a worthwhile video, especially
for business owners because business
owners operating, you know, monthtomonth
on business lines of credit, not
realizing that that credit line could
disappear on you overnight because of
some stupid, you know, sofur shock, uh,
you know, standard overnight funding
rate shock or v spike or whatever.
That's scary. That's not happening right
now. But again, when it happens and I
make a video about it going, "Oh, it
happened. It was too late. You got
effed." That's why I want you to think
about it as an entrepreneur, a business
owner now. Anyway, hope you appreciate
this. See you in the next one.
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