TRANSCRIPTEnglish

Ethnography: Ellen Isaacs at TEDxBroadway

12m 5s2,259 words320 segmentsEnglish

FULL TRANSCRIPT

0:00

[Music]

0:07

40 years ago if you sat in front of a

0:09

computer this is what you would see a

0:12

blinking cursor waiting patiently for

0:14

you to tell it what to do if you wanted

0:16

to see your files you would type LS for

0:18

list and then it would show you your

0:20

files like this they'd all look the same

0:23

even though some might be text some

0:24

might be

0:25

images and but now if you want to see

0:27

your files you just open up the folder

0:29

and you look and you can see some are

0:31

text some are images because they look

0:33

that way if you wanted to move a file

0:35

from one folder to another you would

0:37

type MV for move the name of the file

0:40

Isaac bio. do and then something like

0:43

dot do do do talks which is the location

0:46

of the destination folder local relative

0:49

to the current

0:51

folder now you drag the file from one

0:53

folder to

0:55

another we take this visual display of

0:57

our files and folders for granted but

1:00

somebody had to think of that at a time

1:02

when everybody who used computers typed

1:04

those kinds of cryptic commands somebody

1:06

had to First notice that this wasn't so

1:08

easy and second think of a better way to

1:10

do it someone had to think that you

1:12

could draw little pictures of files and

1:14

folders on the screen and manipulate

1:16

them by dragging a little box around on

1:17

the tabletop well those people were deg

1:20

angelart and Alan Kay angelart invented

1:22

the mouse and K invented what's called

1:24

graphical user interfaces at the time

1:26

Alan Kay worked at Xerox Park in

1:28

California which is where I work work

1:30

today and in 1971 he said the best way

1:33

to predict the future is to invent it

1:36

and that's what he did so this is at a

1:39

time when computers look like this giant

1:41

boxes of technology and big rooms hooked

1:44

up to these terminals which is where you

1:45

type those commands they were very

1:48

expensive so you had to share them and

1:49

people would sign up for time on the

1:51

computer so it's not surprising that at

1:54

a time like this Ken Olen the head of a

1:56

very big computer company called digital

1:58

said there's no way any would want a

2:00

computer in the

2:02

home somebody had to think that you

2:04

could take all that technology and

2:06

compress it into a little box that would

2:08

sit on the desktop and it would be

2:09

dedicated to just one person's use so

2:12

that's something we all take for granted

2:13

now but at the time that would be

2:16

extravagant well those people worked at

2:18

Xerox Park and they in 1973 they

2:20

invented the alto the first graphical

2:23

personal computer and that led to the

2:25

Apple Macintosh the IBM PC and now all

2:28

the Slick desktop laptop and tablet

2:30

computers that we all use

2:32

today so we're here today talking about

2:35

the best of what Broadway can be and I

2:37

think that the reason that I was invited

2:39

here is that the organizers were hoping

2:41

that some of that magic from the early

2:42

Park scientist is still lingering in the

2:44

Halls where I

2:46

work revealing to me a vision of where

2:49

you will be in 20 years well I'm afraid

2:52

that hasn't happened but there is one

2:54

bit of Park magic that I can share with

2:56

you and it has to do with a method that

2:58

you can use to figure it out called

3:00

ethnography so let's go back to the

3:02

1980s when a Xerox copier took up an

3:05

entire

3:07

room there was another Park scientist

3:09

Lucy suchman and she had the idea that

3:12

maybe if you're Building Technology for

3:13

people you should watch them using it so

3:16

she decided to watch some people using a

3:18

Z's copy or she grabbed a couple of her

3:19

colleagues from down the hall and she

3:21

asked them to make copies so I'm going

3:23

to show you a short clip of a video from

3:25

this historic video of these two people

3:27

making copies

3:30

Place 1 to 50 Originals well wait a

3:32

minute I have 100

3:33

Originals face

3:35

up place all Originals against the left

3:39

wall we want two-sided copies unload top

3:43

paper tray now do we want them collated

3:47

what reverse order the originals got to

3:51

be

3:56

kidding this is definitely a bug press

3:59

this

4:05

start does that relate to that unad Pap

4:09

that's not this that's not the paper

4:11

tray it doesn't say what the paper tray

4:12

is H so our first batch our

4:16

first it's

4:19

so what is that out

4:22

of well we sure did come up with a lot

4:25

of

4:28

paper so it's hard turn that that those

4:30

two people from down the hall are

4:32

world-renowned computer scientists one

4:34

of them went on to win the equivalent of

4:36

the Nobel Prize in computer

4:38

science so clearly the problem is not

4:41

that the people are dumb the problem was

4:42

with the design of The copier today it

4:44

is now common practice for companies to

4:46

do what's called usability testing but

4:49

back then it wasn't done Lucy suchman

4:50

had to think of it and she went further

4:52

she realized that you could use observe

4:55

people not just to figure out how to

4:56

make their products easier to use but

4:58

also to figure out what products to

4:59

build in in the first place so this

5:01

practice of observing people in their

5:02

natural environments to understand their

5:04

needs is called ethnography at the time

5:07

it was an academic practice it grew out

5:09

of anthropology musy suchman was the

5:11

first one to apply it to

5:13

Industry so even today not everybody

5:16

uses ethnography most companies will try

5:19

to understand their customers needs by

5:20

asking them directly using tools like

5:22

focus groups or surveys but asking

5:25

people to tell you what they want gets

5:26

you only so far as the anthropologist

5:29

marget need said what people say what

5:31

people do and what people say they do

5:33

are entirely different things when

5:36

people do their jobs or just any

5:38

ordinary activity much of what you do

5:40

just becomes invisible to you it's just

5:42

what you do but if you watch people you

5:44

start to realize a lot of times people

5:46

are working around their tools and it's

5:48

these gaps or problems people work

5:50

people work around that are

5:52

opportunities for Innovation the thing

5:54

is a lot of times when you point them

5:56

out to people they'll say well sure it's

5:58

obvious that's a problem but they don't

6:00

think to tell you about it when you ask

6:02

to notice it you have to get out and

6:04

watch so I like to think of my job as an

6:07

ethnographer like this you sit and you

6:09

watch the chaos that is human behavior

6:11

and if you're patient and you watch for

6:12

a while and you have a naive State of

6:14

Mind you start to notice insights that

6:16

are obvious after you point them out you

6:19

start to notice the hidden obvious well

6:22

how does this work what is ethnography

6:24

like well let me give you two examples

6:26

from my work so the last couple of years

6:29

I've been studying parking now I realize

6:32

parking is an odd place to go looking

6:33

for technology opportunities uh but we

6:36

all know New York is especially the

6:38

parking is an area where there's a lot

6:39

of problems and a lot of needs not being

6:41

met so to study parking my colleagues

6:43

and I have spent a lot of times hanging

6:45

around on street corners watching cars

6:47

parking trucks

6:49

unloading Enforcement Officers giving

6:51

tickets and we've seen a lot of things

6:53

you might expect and some that you might

6:55

not

7:04

so one of the things that we started to

7:06

notice gradually was the parking signs

7:08

and how difficult it can be to tell the

7:10

one thing you want to know quickly can I

7:13

park here now in the few seconds you

7:15

have as your driving by so I'm going to

7:17

show you a sign for about that amount of

7:19

time and I want you to figure out can

7:21

you park here now let's say it's

7:23

Wednesday early in the morning at 700

7:24

a.m. can you park here now

7:32

okay let's look again okay this is hard

7:34

not just because there's so much going

7:35

on but you'll notice that Wednesday is

7:37

not mentioned and 7: a.m. is not in any

7:39

of the time ranges so you have to infer

7:42

that because it's not covered you can

7:44

park here at least to the left of the

7:46

signs okay here's another one it's 3

7:48

p.m. can you stop here

7:55

now okay let's look again so the bottom

7:58

sign says no parking at 3 p.m. so that

8:01

implies that you can stop and the top no

8:03

stopping sign doesn't cover 3 p.m. so

8:06

that implies again you can you have to

8:08

figure out that you can stop here okay

8:10

and here's one more where I challenge

8:12

you to figure out what you can do here

8:13

at any

8:13

[Laughter]

8:16

time so the problem here is that parking

8:19

signs focus on restrictions know this

8:21

know that when what you want to know is

8:23

what you can do now when I say it like

8:25

this it seems obvious but when you go

8:28

and you ask people to tell you what are

8:29

some of your problems you have with

8:31

parking they generally don't go

8:32

complaining and saying you know parking

8:34

signs are difficult to read quickly as

8:35

you drive by because they focus on

8:37

restrictions to really understand this

8:39

you have to get out and watch and it can

8:41

take a while we because we were looking

8:43

at so many different aspects of parking

8:45

the signs didn't really come into Focus

8:47

for us until the fourth city and over a

8:49

thousand photos and videos once we

8:52

noticed it it was obvious so what could

8:55

you do about this well one thing you

8:56

could do is redesign the signs and so

8:59

here's there's one possible way you

9:00

could design that second sign and it's

9:02

on the right you see it's organized by

9:04

time of day from morning through night

9:06

so at any time you can find now and then

9:08

you can just look to the right and see

9:10

can I park green Yes red no orange

9:13

there's some kind of restriction like

9:14

here it's deliveries only and if you

9:16

want to be kind to Internationals you

9:18

could include

9:20

symbols okay so that's one example of

9:22

how ethnography found an unmet need let

9:24

me give you another one so we noticed a

9:27

lot of times when we were out looking

9:28

that there were a lot of loading zones

9:29

marked by yellow curbs that weren't

9:31

being used here we are looking for a

9:33

parking spot and it's just loading as

9:35

far as the eye can see and not very many

9:37

trucks using it and yet we can't park on

9:40

the other hand we saw a lot of times

9:41

when trucks were trying to make

9:43

deliveries and couldn't find a loading

9:44

zone and since they have to park near

9:46

where they're going to be delivering

9:48

they get creative so they double Park

9:50

and they Block in cars both diagonal and

9:53

parallel they Park in the median

9:55

blocking cars from turning left they

9:58

Park in the cross cross walk blocking

10:00

people from crossing the street and they

10:03

park on the

10:05

sidewalk so the problem here is that

10:08

loading zones take up precious parking

10:10

resources and yet they don't really meet

10:12

the need again I point this out seems

10:15

obvious but when we talk to people about

10:17

their parking problems they don't say

10:19

loading zones are inefficient they say

10:21

there's not enough parking so what can

10:23

you do about this well what you really

10:25

like to do is to have the spots for

10:27

loading when they're needed and then

10:29

make them available to everyone else

10:30

when they're not so this is something

10:32

we're doing right now we have built a

10:34

prototype parking meter that can change

10:36

its state from parking to loading no

10:38

parking in other states and since trucks

10:41

have GPS's oops so they have GPS's and

10:44

they know uh where they're going um we

10:47

can take a spot and change it from

10:49

parking to loading and then when they

10:51

come and they Park they can put it back

10:52

to

10:53

parking okay so what does all this have

10:56

to do with

10:57

Broadway well what I'm trying to say is

11:00

that well I don't know what you need to

11:01

do to make Broadway the best it can be

11:03

you can get some ideas by using

11:05

ethnography it's a very general tool

11:07

we've used it in many different domains

11:09

hospitals nursing call centers retail

11:12

stores young people using mobile devices

11:15

lots more and you could use it on

11:17

Broadway so you could accompany a family

11:19

as they're spending a day out on

11:21

Broadway or you could watch someone is

11:23

they're planning a day for or an evening

11:25

for a night out and a show or you could

11:28

just hang out at the tickets booth and

11:30

watch people buying tickets or people

11:31

checking into hotels or people choosing

11:34

a restaurant or window shopping or going

11:36

to a show all those things and maybe if

11:39

you're patient and you do it for a while

11:41

and you keep a naive state of mind maybe

11:44

you will discover the hidden obvious

11:47

maybe you'll be the one to think of a

11:48

novel idea that people will take for

11:50

granted in 20 years thank you

11:56

[Music]

UNLOCK MORE

Sign up free to access premium features

INTERACTIVE VIEWER

Watch the video with synced subtitles, adjustable overlay, and full playback control.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

AI SUMMARY

Get an instant AI-generated summary of the video content, key points, and takeaways.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

TRANSLATE

Translate the transcript to 100+ languages with one click. Download in any format.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

MIND MAP

Visualize the transcript as an interactive mind map. Understand structure at a glance.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

CHAT WITH TRANSCRIPT

Ask questions about the video content. Get answers powered by AI directly from the transcript.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

GET MORE FROM YOUR TRANSCRIPTS

Sign up for free and unlock interactive viewer, AI summaries, translations, mind maps, and more. No credit card required.