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The WORST Report Yet | This will Drag us into Depression.

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is by far the worst report yet now many

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of you might not necessarily care about

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this particular company but what they

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say is such a red flag for not only the

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economy but also hopefully deflationary

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pressures to come in the future as

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consumer spending Falls due to the

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weight of what's being seen

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I think it's a report that we ought to

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look at together and so I've got the

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earnings called transcript and let's get

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right into it so this is the nation's

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third largest homebuilder and just take

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a look at some of the things they say

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the very first sentence from the CEO

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just yesterday is we find ourselves

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delineating between the favorable demand

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environment that existed earlier this

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year which drove the current earnings

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versus the more challenging current

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conditions as we move through the

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quarter you can almost see the ebb and

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flow of Demand with interest rates I

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mean that's not a surprise and they're

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finding that people are canceling

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transactions at a rate that's an

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increase of 240 percent of last year

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last year we were at 10 cancellations

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during this time now we're at 24

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that's an increase of 2.4 x right and

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they're finding that people are

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canceling home purchases for two reasons

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one the a can no longer afford a home

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because of high interest rates or B

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they're unsure if now is the time to buy

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a home so that psychology of pain or

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fear or making a bad decision

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and they believe here that because of

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the fed's latest commentary about

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aggressively raising rates to control

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inflation for at least the remainder of

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2022 and then likely holding rates

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higher for longer we could see the most

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significant impact on today's consumers

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currently showing up as influencing

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housing demand but as soon as housing

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wealth goes down we tend to see the

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entire economy slow down as well and

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it's gotten so bad that this particular

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company is now aggressively discounting

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their outstanding inventory aggressively

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discounting and they talk about

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protecting their share within markets

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that is how many homes they sell

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compared to the other home builders and

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the way they're going to do that is by

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not being margin proud in other words

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they're going to dump Properties by

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cutting prices to make sure they could

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still sell homes and maintain that share

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of homes uh for sale and they're

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basically dumping out of properties not

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only are they dumping out of properties

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but if you look down here you can see

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that they canceled

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24 million dollars of deposits you can

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see that actually at the last slide here

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that's not highlighted where they say

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nobody wants to write off these 24

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million dollars in deposits so basically

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they had deposits on land that they were

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going to develop and they said hey look

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this is about 800 million dollars of

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land we don't want to buy it anymore

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because it's just a bad deal so we're

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gonna walk away on our approximately

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three percent deposit and we're not

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going to buy that land to develop to

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build homes on that's about 800 million

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dollars that's not going into the real

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estate market that 800 million dollars

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guess where it goes instead and this is

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where you always see with real estate

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companies a Divergence between how the

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stock performs and how the actual

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underlying company performs

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Pulte Homes and a lot of the home

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builders are finding that their stocks

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are so undervalued right now that rather

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than go buy more land or actually go

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develop more real estate what they're

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doing is they're buying back their own

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stock Pulte bought back almost nine

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percent of their own stock over well

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since the beginning uh since January of

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2022 which is absolutely a huge amount

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nine percent of their outstanding stock

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bought back it's crazy uh how much

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they've bought back and they're doing

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that because they see a better return on

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buying their own stock than they do on

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actually buying land right now in fact I

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frequently talk about the three wedge

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deals that house hack is going to be

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able to get house hack is my real estate

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startup number one wedge deal is where

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you buy real estate below market value

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because you're buying fixer-uppers and

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you're fixing them up at a lower price

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than what anybody else can that's kind

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of like flipping homes but we're not

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home flippers we're doing long-term

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rentals at short-term rentals and so

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that's wedge number one is buying a good

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deal that's how you make money by let's

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say buying a five hundred thousand

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dollar home in say a seven hundred

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thousand dollar neighborhood putting in

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50k of uh repairs you're up 150 000

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right that's wedge number one wedge

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number two is selling parts of the

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portfolio while retaining management and

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some of the upside to Pension funds who

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are looking for cash flow that's the

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second way that a house act can get a

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wedge deal and the third way you can get

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a wedge deal is by buying your stock

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back at a discount when the market is

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panicking and that's what the home

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builders are doing it's actually smart

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and it's a tax efficient way of of

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increasing shareholder value anyway

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so uh with the current dramatic and

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ongoing interest rates likely being the

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biggest concern for most consumers and

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other factors in play at play including

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inflation fear of recession or

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increasing concerns about job loss like

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this is just an all-around on one hand

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bad report but on the other hand I hope

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the FED reads this report and they're

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like yes spend less money consumers

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spend less money be worried be fearful

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about inflation be fearful about

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recession be fearful about job loss

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please now they talk about having a more

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defensive posture for the near term they

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talk about having 28 fewer orders and

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what I found interesting was that first

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time home buyers actually represented

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three percent more of their home buyers

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in other words people who put generally

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put very little money down like three or

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five percent down so they're borrowing

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most of it which means sure they

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apparently have the salary to qualify

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but they don't they don't need a lot of

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a down payment and the older move up

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buyers

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are buying at a 45 reduced rate probably

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because they're like yeah no been

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through a housing crash before ain't

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doing it again the first time home

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buyers have it

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oops anyway uh let's see here homes

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under construction okay let's see higher

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financing incentives this is just a way

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that they're hitting their margins

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trying to dump these properties oh this

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was fascinating look at this

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given the change in buyer demand and the

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resulting impact on the Turning of our

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own land we currently expect that our

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land spend will drop materially next

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year now that I thought was really

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interesting because what they're

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actually and here's that nine percent

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buyback at the top what they're saying

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here is hey look we we haven't like

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actually fully hit the brakes yet and

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this is kind of something that you saw

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at Google as well where Google's like

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yeah look you know we we're getting

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reamed you know we're down like eight

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percent today and uh we hired way too

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many people we're trying to refine our

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Focus uh we kind of lost our focus and

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hired too many people but a hiring will

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slow materially in Q4 and next year and

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I'm like damn folks we've known about

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this disaster coming since January

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and you're just now refining uh and and

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so I think it's interesting how how long

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everything takes honestly that's

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probably been one of my biggest lessons

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of this cycle is

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it doesn't have to go fast you know just

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because I I expect the FED uh to rug

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pull us and go dirty doesn't mean the

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bot at the bottom of the market comes

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soon it could come years later uh and

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and we expect that for for Real Estate

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as well the bottom of the market

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you know at first I thought it was going

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to be Q2 of 2023 now I think it'll be

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more like q3q4 and and maybe when we get

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to Q2 2023 I'll be like damn the bottom

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of real estate market might not be until

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q1 of 2024. I don't know but I will say

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everything's taking way longer than

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expected it's lasting longer and it's

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been a lot harder than expected uh and

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you're seeing that in these earnings

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calls as well or companies are actually

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just now really starting to cut back

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it's crazy uh so let's see what else we

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have here well we expect the coming

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quarters will be difficult they're still

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positive and bullish in the long term

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that is people buying homes in the long

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term of course and remember generally

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home ownership rates decline during

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these housing crashes so it's a great

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opportunity for investors to increase

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their market share which is unfortunate

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for for individuals trying to get in but

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that's just the way it is uh talk a

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little bit about market share here with

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incentives

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uh interest rates okay here we go

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uh 35 of spec Ah that's not so

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interesting about the market average

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selling prices are coming down with

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margin consequences trying to give you

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the juiciest here yeah so they talk a

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little bit about their 24 million dollar

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write down how that would have

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represented 800 million dollars worth of

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properties uh that is Lots land that

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they would have bought uh what else is

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interesting is they talk about here how

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you saw a little bit of a dip in rates

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in August and this is true we did see a

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dip in rates in August and we saw some

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activity around then where people came

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off the fences but then rates went

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higher again in fact if you jump over to

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this PDF I have which actually has the

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10-year treasury listed right here you

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can see that this green section right

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here is approximately where August is on

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the 10-year Treasury and uh you know

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August ended at 3.26 well we're at like

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four percent now so we're way higher I

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mean mortgage rates are now at an over

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average of seven percent it's quite

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quite remarkable uh so then look at this

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one here in many cases their buyers are

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walking away from sizable deposits

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which they say doesn't even make a lot

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of sense because they're potentially

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walking away from these deposits that

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are so large that's like Dude like even

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if prices went down 10 you just lock

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that in by walking away from your

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deposit and this is where uh I mean

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that's just an example generally people

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put three percent down as a deposit but

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just as an example uh because that's

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that's the argument they're trying to

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make here but then they say but that's

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where you really get into the psychology

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yeah I mean just like the courses I have

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on building your wealth they're designed

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for the psychology of money both real

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estate negotiations Property Management

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uh stocks investing for the long term

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right that's what they're all about

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you'd use that Halloween coupon code

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down below we going live in a course

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member live stream after this going

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through some more uh important earnings

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calls but boy oh boy uh when you start

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talking about companies going man the

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psychology of our customers is really

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changing that's when you know we have

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more pain coming uh and and it's just

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beginning and they do mention that some

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of the areas that are doing the best and

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this is very important for house hack

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remember if you're an accredited

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investor make sure you go there to

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househack.com and that uh they're really

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focusing on areas with attractive job

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growth and warmer weather attractive

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climates which they suggest are the Sun

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Belt region so like the southeast and

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Florida

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uh Texas very interesting and uh so you

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are actually seeing those areas right

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now at least get hit less than you are

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West Coast areas even though West Coast

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areas have better uh job or a better

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climate uh it does seem like job growth

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is going towards the southeast and the

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South anyway

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uh they also notice look at this folks

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trades trades right plumbers

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electricians those are the trades that

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are feeling the slowdown in the industry

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right now the front end trades like

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underground plumbing blah blah blah in

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other words when trades people start

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feeling the Slowdown what does that mean

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recession folks one person spending is

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five dollars of somebody else's spending

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and

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it's just now slowing

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this is like

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this is crazy that 10 months after I

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made my January videos about the FED

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forcing a recession

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we're just now seeing companies like

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yeah

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now we're slowing down now we're

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canceling purchases now we're slowing

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hiring

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and they're not even at that max level

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of slowing down yet they're so slow and

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