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is by far the worst report yet now many
of you might not necessarily care about
this particular company but what they
say is such a red flag for not only the
economy but also hopefully deflationary
pressures to come in the future as
consumer spending Falls due to the
weight of what's being seen
I think it's a report that we ought to
look at together and so I've got the
earnings called transcript and let's get
right into it so this is the nation's
third largest homebuilder and just take
a look at some of the things they say
the very first sentence from the CEO
just yesterday is we find ourselves
delineating between the favorable demand
environment that existed earlier this
year which drove the current earnings
versus the more challenging current
conditions as we move through the
quarter you can almost see the ebb and
flow of Demand with interest rates I
mean that's not a surprise and they're
finding that people are canceling
transactions at a rate that's an
increase of 240 percent of last year
last year we were at 10 cancellations
during this time now we're at 24
that's an increase of 2.4 x right and
they're finding that people are
canceling home purchases for two reasons
one the a can no longer afford a home
because of high interest rates or B
they're unsure if now is the time to buy
a home so that psychology of pain or
fear or making a bad decision
and they believe here that because of
the fed's latest commentary about
aggressively raising rates to control
inflation for at least the remainder of
2022 and then likely holding rates
higher for longer we could see the most
significant impact on today's consumers
currently showing up as influencing
housing demand but as soon as housing
wealth goes down we tend to see the
entire economy slow down as well and
it's gotten so bad that this particular
company is now aggressively discounting
their outstanding inventory aggressively
discounting and they talk about
protecting their share within markets
that is how many homes they sell
compared to the other home builders and
the way they're going to do that is by
not being margin proud in other words
they're going to dump Properties by
cutting prices to make sure they could
still sell homes and maintain that share
of homes uh for sale and they're
basically dumping out of properties not
only are they dumping out of properties
but if you look down here you can see
that they canceled
24 million dollars of deposits you can
see that actually at the last slide here
that's not highlighted where they say
nobody wants to write off these 24
million dollars in deposits so basically
they had deposits on land that they were
going to develop and they said hey look
this is about 800 million dollars of
land we don't want to buy it anymore
because it's just a bad deal so we're
gonna walk away on our approximately
three percent deposit and we're not
going to buy that land to develop to
build homes on that's about 800 million
dollars that's not going into the real
estate market that 800 million dollars
guess where it goes instead and this is
where you always see with real estate
companies a Divergence between how the
stock performs and how the actual
underlying company performs
Pulte Homes and a lot of the home
builders are finding that their stocks
are so undervalued right now that rather
than go buy more land or actually go
develop more real estate what they're
doing is they're buying back their own
stock Pulte bought back almost nine
percent of their own stock over well
since the beginning uh since January of
2022 which is absolutely a huge amount
nine percent of their outstanding stock
bought back it's crazy uh how much
they've bought back and they're doing
that because they see a better return on
buying their own stock than they do on
actually buying land right now in fact I
frequently talk about the three wedge
deals that house hack is going to be
able to get house hack is my real estate
startup number one wedge deal is where
you buy real estate below market value
because you're buying fixer-uppers and
you're fixing them up at a lower price
than what anybody else can that's kind
of like flipping homes but we're not
home flippers we're doing long-term
rentals at short-term rentals and so
that's wedge number one is buying a good
deal that's how you make money by let's
say buying a five hundred thousand
dollar home in say a seven hundred
thousand dollar neighborhood putting in
50k of uh repairs you're up 150 000
right that's wedge number one wedge
number two is selling parts of the
portfolio while retaining management and
some of the upside to Pension funds who
are looking for cash flow that's the
second way that a house act can get a
wedge deal and the third way you can get
a wedge deal is by buying your stock
back at a discount when the market is
panicking and that's what the home
builders are doing it's actually smart
and it's a tax efficient way of of
increasing shareholder value anyway
so uh with the current dramatic and
ongoing interest rates likely being the
biggest concern for most consumers and
other factors in play at play including
inflation fear of recession or
increasing concerns about job loss like
this is just an all-around on one hand
bad report but on the other hand I hope
the FED reads this report and they're
like yes spend less money consumers
spend less money be worried be fearful
about inflation be fearful about
recession be fearful about job loss
please now they talk about having a more
defensive posture for the near term they
talk about having 28 fewer orders and
what I found interesting was that first
time home buyers actually represented
three percent more of their home buyers
in other words people who put generally
put very little money down like three or
five percent down so they're borrowing
most of it which means sure they
apparently have the salary to qualify
but they don't they don't need a lot of
a down payment and the older move up
buyers
are buying at a 45 reduced rate probably
because they're like yeah no been
through a housing crash before ain't
doing it again the first time home
buyers have it
oops anyway uh let's see here homes
under construction okay let's see higher
financing incentives this is just a way
that they're hitting their margins
trying to dump these properties oh this
was fascinating look at this
given the change in buyer demand and the
resulting impact on the Turning of our
own land we currently expect that our
land spend will drop materially next
year now that I thought was really
interesting because what they're
actually and here's that nine percent
buyback at the top what they're saying
here is hey look we we haven't like
actually fully hit the brakes yet and
this is kind of something that you saw
at Google as well where Google's like
yeah look you know we we're getting
reamed you know we're down like eight
percent today and uh we hired way too
many people we're trying to refine our
Focus uh we kind of lost our focus and
hired too many people but a hiring will
slow materially in Q4 and next year and
I'm like damn folks we've known about
this disaster coming since January
and you're just now refining uh and and
so I think it's interesting how how long
everything takes honestly that's
probably been one of my biggest lessons
of this cycle is
it doesn't have to go fast you know just
because I I expect the FED uh to rug
pull us and go dirty doesn't mean the
bot at the bottom of the market comes
soon it could come years later uh and
and we expect that for for Real Estate
as well the bottom of the market
you know at first I thought it was going
to be Q2 of 2023 now I think it'll be
more like q3q4 and and maybe when we get
to Q2 2023 I'll be like damn the bottom
of real estate market might not be until
q1 of 2024. I don't know but I will say
everything's taking way longer than
expected it's lasting longer and it's
been a lot harder than expected uh and
you're seeing that in these earnings
calls as well or companies are actually
just now really starting to cut back
it's crazy uh so let's see what else we
have here well we expect the coming
quarters will be difficult they're still
positive and bullish in the long term
that is people buying homes in the long
term of course and remember generally
home ownership rates decline during
these housing crashes so it's a great
opportunity for investors to increase
their market share which is unfortunate
for for individuals trying to get in but
that's just the way it is uh talk a
little bit about market share here with
incentives
uh interest rates okay here we go
uh 35 of spec Ah that's not so
interesting about the market average
selling prices are coming down with
margin consequences trying to give you
the juiciest here yeah so they talk a
little bit about their 24 million dollar
write down how that would have
represented 800 million dollars worth of
properties uh that is Lots land that
they would have bought uh what else is
interesting is they talk about here how
you saw a little bit of a dip in rates
in August and this is true we did see a
dip in rates in August and we saw some
activity around then where people came
off the fences but then rates went
higher again in fact if you jump over to
this PDF I have which actually has the
10-year treasury listed right here you
can see that this green section right
here is approximately where August is on
the 10-year Treasury and uh you know
August ended at 3.26 well we're at like
four percent now so we're way higher I
mean mortgage rates are now at an over
average of seven percent it's quite
quite remarkable uh so then look at this
one here in many cases their buyers are
walking away from sizable deposits
which they say doesn't even make a lot
of sense because they're potentially
walking away from these deposits that
are so large that's like Dude like even
if prices went down 10 you just lock
that in by walking away from your
deposit and this is where uh I mean
that's just an example generally people
put three percent down as a deposit but
just as an example uh because that's
that's the argument they're trying to
make here but then they say but that's
where you really get into the psychology
yeah I mean just like the courses I have
on building your wealth they're designed
for the psychology of money both real
estate negotiations Property Management
uh stocks investing for the long term
right that's what they're all about
you'd use that Halloween coupon code
down below we going live in a course
member live stream after this going
through some more uh important earnings
calls but boy oh boy uh when you start
talking about companies going man the
psychology of our customers is really
changing that's when you know we have
more pain coming uh and and it's just
beginning and they do mention that some
of the areas that are doing the best and
this is very important for house hack
remember if you're an accredited
investor make sure you go there to
househack.com and that uh they're really
focusing on areas with attractive job
growth and warmer weather attractive
climates which they suggest are the Sun
Belt region so like the southeast and
Florida
uh Texas very interesting and uh so you
are actually seeing those areas right
now at least get hit less than you are
West Coast areas even though West Coast
areas have better uh job or a better
climate uh it does seem like job growth
is going towards the southeast and the
South anyway
uh they also notice look at this folks
trades trades right plumbers
electricians those are the trades that
are feeling the slowdown in the industry
right now the front end trades like
underground plumbing blah blah blah in
other words when trades people start
feeling the Slowdown what does that mean
recession folks one person spending is
five dollars of somebody else's spending
and
it's just now slowing
this is like
this is crazy that 10 months after I
made my January videos about the FED
forcing a recession
we're just now seeing companies like
yeah
now we're slowing down now we're
canceling purchases now we're slowing
hiring
and they're not even at that max level
of slowing down yet they're so slow and
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