My Thoughts on the Coming Housing & Stock Market Crash.
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hey everyone meet kevin here so i'm in
bakersfield because we have a rally
tomorrow if you want to come go to
meetkevin.com bakersfield rally's gonna
be great but i want to talk a little bit
about housing
and real estate so i've mentioned in
prior videos
that not only am i a little bit nervous
about a slow bleed in the stock
market but i'm also starting to see a
little bit of an inflection point in
real estate and so i want to talk about
real estate and my strategies going
forward a little bit i do
i do believe i owe you a little bit of
clarity on what i said yesterday some
folks who
were saying hey wait a minute kevin
don't you still expect rallies coming
uh that is like uh rallies in the stock
market by september and october
uh and and i do i still personally this
is my personal opinion i know about
fifty percent of folks won't believe
with this but at least you know what my
opinion is right and then you can build
perspectives from there but i still
think it's likely that
when we see inflation data actually
start coming down which i don't think
we're going to see in
august uh i don't know that we're gonna
even see it in september it's really the
september october readings
which come out in october november
that's when i kind of expect some some
rotation down in inflation rates
then i do think there will be some form
of a rally in the market
the problem is from from like what level
and and how much of a rally
based on what i've seen the last five
months i think the rally is going to be
much more muted
i don't think we're gonna see these some
of these september february highs
as soon as maybe we've been expecting or
hoping to anymore
sort of just just those thoughts i still
think we're going to see
excitement some potential euphoria
that's when you dump your call options
right
but but i have dampened my expectations
for how much of a rally i expect to see
how soon
and i think that's worth noting because
you don't want to wait for like oh well
no i'm waiting to get back to this level
or whatever i don't know that
might take longer than we think okay so
you have an update on
first of all where the heck i am the
executive or my thoughts
on the stock market and in prior videos
i've talked about this inflection point
in real estate
in fact i've been talking about this for
about the last three four weeks now
and this inflection point is really this
decline
in uh in in all this well let me put it
this way we're seeing an
increase of new listings we're seeing
new listing
asking prices go up but we're actually
seeing pending sales
decline sharper and sooner
excuse me sharper and sooner than we
would expect
uh it compared to at least 2018 2019
we're seeing that pullback sooner
i think that is going to put some
potential downward pressure on the real
estate market
uh and and this is where i think it's
worth giving you an updated kind of
thinking on on how to invest in this
market and the
real estate market so i many have
noticed
i love buying single family real estate
there are a great opportunities where if
you have great connections
you can get multi-family real estate
under market value if you get properties
that have under market value rents
sorry they're a bunch of people
screaming in the pool and follow up
if you could get multi-family real
estate under market value hey
great and that's awesome the way you do
that again is you've got to find
properties that are being sold ideally
that are fixed up and the rents are low
personally i find when i look at most
real estate funds and syndications
obviously i can't say all because i
don't know all
but most of the funds i look at they
they're looking for properties that are
just
where can we plop 50 million dollars and
buy 100 150 million dollar
building and they're just buying
properties from people who are selling
these projects for excessively high
prices uh in
in my opinion folks are buying sort of
at a peak market some of these fully
renovated
uh fully rented fully market rent ready
multi-family real estate properties and
that's where i still believe there's
this
really unique opportunity and it's
something everybody can really do
especially if you're heavy into
investing in the stock market everybody
could get involved
in buying single families now i know
that there
you know some folks are like oh but it's
harder to manage or there's there's
less scale you know look you get pros
and cons with everything
sure single family homes might not all
be next to each other but
in our experience there's way less
management intensity
with single-family homes that are fixed
up and ready to go because most people
just leave you alone
whereas with multi-family you've got
neighbor disputes that you're
arbitrating frequently
you tend to have more of a revolving
door with units you're generally over
there more
because you're re-renting the units at a
higher rate because they're smaller
so those are just some quick differences
and this isn't a bag on multi-family
don't get me wrong
i own multi-family i get it like it's
it's fine
but why am i mentioning this
multi-family single family
talk now well it's because i believe
that if we do see
which i believe the federal reserve
starts tapering
interest rates don't start going up
until
maybe uh 2023 or quite frankly could
even be 2024
if if we start getting lower inflation
again like you expect
then then i believe that as we slowly
start seeing the real estate market
chillax a little bit because remember
we're seeing pending sales go down and
that's a sign that we're
going to probably start building up
inventory again we build up inventory
again more supply gets built up
that means we're likely to potentially
see prices come down a little bit prices
come down again a little bit and sellers
all of a sudden have less power
i think the opportunity to get good
deals in real estate
is going to be much more plentiful we'll
have more options
we'll have more frustrated sellers who
are like man i thought
i thought it'd be easier to sell now
it's not as easy to sell
and maybe those are going to create
opportunities to go shopping and buying
again
that's what i'm looking for now i did
just buy a property a few months ago
actually
i think it's about nine weeks ago now
we're about to put it on the market for
rent i'll have to do a before and after
on that i've got the before footage but
i never went back to film it
again so i have to do that and i'll show
you this property i bought for 570 000
in like a 715 000 neighborhood but
anyway
uh these are the kind of deals that i'm
looking for and i think it's gonna be
easier to get more of these
now why don't i just try to go get a big
multi-family building
so i've thought about that as well i've
been thinking to myself like should i
just go buy a big multi-family
building somewhere first of all i think
the odds of me getting
a good deal in multi-family on a big
building that's on the market
very low unless i could get it again
below market value rent
i don't know if i could find that unless
i go move to an area
and i know all the agents in an area i
think if i really put the effort in i
could probably find it
but then i'm also not an expert in other
areas like if before i ever bought real
estate in an area
i'd probably want to be there and
understand the neighborhoods understand
the people for a good six months
and go to go to all the different bars
go to all the different clubs go go to
the different restaurants talk to the
people there and look
the funny thing about when you go to
bars and restaurants is people are very
willing to talk
very candidly about the good and bad of
different areas
uh i like doing that by the way for even
just political research
because again people are very candid
about the problems that are happening or
things that are good in an area
so uh just strategies to think about
that work also for real estate
but anyway that that is leaving me in
this place where okay
well what if i just go back into
buying real estate uh more so than i've
been buying stocks
and what if i'm wrong about inflation
see that's that's another big piece here
what if i'm wrong about inflation
all right so let's analyze this first if
i'm right about inflation then i don't
think we're going to see rates go up and
i think we're potentially going to see a
little bit of softening and pricing as
supply goes up for real estate
and i think i'm going to be able to get
more and better
wedge deals in single-family real estate
again real estate where i'm buying below
market value
if i'm wrong about inflation which of
course i can be wrong i've been wrong
many times before
and i do my best to learn from all my
mistakes and make those as transparent
as possible
so if i'm wrong about inflation and we
end up having
larger or high inflation then i think
first of all stocks are
especially the tech and growth stocks
i'm in their future earnings are going
to get sort of
discounted much more heavily and the
market could pull back
we could have a very bad few years for
like caffeine would
uh arc invest and and uh and even the
growth place that i have
again because if we see higher inflation
well it's gonna be a problem uh we'll
expect to see higher rates from the fed
we'll we'll see
more again more earnings discounting
would be a problem
but what's interesting is if we see
higher inflation
one of the easiest ways to hedge
yourself against higher inflation
is owning rental real estate so if i can
get into
below market value rental real estate
because we're going to maybe we start
seeing a little bit of a supply backlog
coming up finally which we need
desperately need that i get a little bit
more negotiating power with some of the
sellers who are just asking ridiculous
prices right now
then i could actually load up more on
single family real estate
getting good deals and hedge myself for
inflation why because i'm locking in
20 30 year fixed rate debt
at today's pricings which is actually
really exciting
uh and today's pricing that is today's
interest rates right
so i take advantage of having better
leverage opportunities with sellers
but then also cheaper financing cheaper
financing means i'm locking in
you know four or five percent debt if
you're a homeowner you could lock in 2.8
you know one 2.35 percent debt i have to
unfortunately get commercial financing
so it's a little bit more expensive for
me because we we can't get conventional
financing anymore we have too many
properties i mean it's a good problem to
have
but it just means i get crappier
financing but even still if i can lock
in debt
at five percent even and then let's say
we have hyperinflation generally
assets benefit and the appreciation of
assets rides on top of an inflation wave
and hard assets like real estate do very
well
you're able to pay your rent off with
with inflated uh sorry you're able to
pay your mortgage off with inflated
rents
because if we end up saying
hyperinflation then i do think that
rents are going to come up substantially
in fact one of the things that could
quite frankly drive up inflation
and where i could be wrong could be
substantially higher rents
which again would be phenomenal to own
more real estate in so i'd lock in a
payment
price appreciation i think would be
better in the long term under
hyperinflation or large inflationary
period in inflation it'll be worse for
stocks uh or in real estate it'll be
better
and rents would go up which would give
me more cash flow or
more negotiating power when it's it's
time for rental increases every year at
at least renewal time
so in a crazy way what i'm saying in
this video
is while there's so much uncertainty in
the stock market and i'm diamond handing
the stock market
i think there could be some very unique
opportunities that if
real estate starts backing up a little
bit more again more inventory more
leverage power with sellers
and i can lock in whatever rates i can
lock in now before powell makes any kind
of changes on rates
then i think i can again get good deals
on wedge deals again
it's probably the most conservative
easiest way to get
sort of a compounded annual return on
your money of 10 to 15
which is pretty good you know that's
kind of like a kathy wood art goal is
15 uh as an annual compounded goal
unless there's a big market dip and then
she bumps it to 25
because she's justifying buying the dip
which is fair too totally fair
uh but but also i protect myself if i'm
wrong so like
if i'm right about lower inflation and
lower rates great i have more time to
acquire if i'm
wrong i'm hedging my stocks with real
estate
so right now i've got about 50 of my
wealth and real estate 50 in stocks now
i do want to also provide a little bit
more clarity about cash flows in real
estate
uh i i don't really care about cash
flows in real estate i'm a very
different kind of investor
what i'm looking for is long-term wealth
and when i buy properties a hundred
thousand dollars under market value
i don't really care if there's no cash
flow
i quite frankly i'd rather have zero
cash flow because it means i'm not
paying those taxes
over time you get more cash flow as
rents go up right but if i'm buying
something at a break even or even a
slight negative 100 200 bucks a month
that's really good in my opinion because
okay so say you have a 200
negative cash flow that's 2 400 a year
of negative
but if you just bought a place a hundred
thousand dollars under market value
first of all if if the market continues
the way i expect even just
nominally not not at this unsustainable
15 20 but even if we just have two
percent growth
which is two percent on a six seven
hundred thousand dollar property
is is uh twelve fourteen thousand
dollars who cares like whatever two
thousand dollars negative right
big deal it means i'm not paying taxes
uh in fact i'm taking more tax
write-offs more tax benefits which is a
good thing
uh while also locking in that wealth
which then i can
unleash or unlock tax-free through
refinancing
but only when rents have gone up so that
way you're not because the last thing
you want to do is be going
massive negative into into real estate
right
you don't want these massive like you
don't what you don't want to have
ideally is a portfolio where you have
like 10 properties or
50 properties and they're literally all
negative because that's a lot to sustain
that's a lot of burden on your shoulders
right
but let's say you started with your
first property a couple hundred bucks a
month negative
after two or three years you buy your
next property and your first property
you've raised the rent 50 bucks a year
or whatever
or however and now your break even and
now you break even on that one or you
have a slight cash flow
100 200 cash flow whatever however works
out you buy your next one
you make sure you're you're able to
sustain whatever kind of portfolio nag
you have
uh and again i'm not here trying to make
a video going oh get rich quick by
having negative cash flows like no no no
no
uh i i just mentioned this because i
understand a lot of folks they leave me
comments
and they're like well how you know if i
buy rental real estate right now i have
a slight negative what do i do
and so in my opinion you protect
yourself with having a very very good
deal
the worst thing i think you could do is
buy a property that
is market value and has a negative cash
flow
that's horrible that would be the worst
thing you could do i would recommend
against that highly
uh however then again you know there are
plenty of people who bought market value
real estate in november
and uh they're up 10 right now because
the market just appreciated that much
you know that's just fluke i don't like
to plan on market appreciation
that's a that's the icing on the cake
right that's why i like getting
properties under market value you get
these massive boosts in your net worth
and that's usable at times of crises
like what we saw in march of 2020 when i
refinanced a bunch of properties took
that money and went
buying stocks so anyway there you have
some insights
uh into my current thoughts i really
appreciate you watching this this was
definitely a longer video than i
expected but hopefully you enjoyed it
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i can upload this longer video
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