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well my boy Ross Gerber is back at it

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again making headlines last time it was

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for wanting to challenge the Tesla board

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of directors and run for a seat on the

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board at Tesla this time around it's ooh

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not being spun as the best news that

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Ross Gerber has gotten himself into Ross

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Gerber visited

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if only you knew Dan Oda danodad is a

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dude who's run this technology company a

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legacy style technology company that's

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created software that has been used by

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the likes of the government and in Adas

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software and essentially runs a company

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that provides software that competes to

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some extent with Tesla's full

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self-driving him Daniel Dodd has made it

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his mission to be critical of FSD and

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Elon Musk in Tesla even though allegedly

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he owns an original Tesla Roadster

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though it's worth noting the original

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Tesla Roadster which I also once owned

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doesn't have any FSD it's just a dressed

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up Lotus Elise with a battery bag in it

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so what do we have with Dano Dodd and

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Ross Gerber and did we just get another

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price uh a downgrade

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from another Wall Street Bank a yes in

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fact we'll talk about both Morgan

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Stanley's downgrade for Tesla and

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Goldman Sachs downgrade for Tesla in

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just a moment

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but first

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ah we have to look at something that

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unfortunately is

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not so great and now I'm going to give

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my commentary on this and my suspicions

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on this I live approximately 40 minutes

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away from where this incident occurred

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so when I feel better I will visit this

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uh area and conduct my own sort of

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research and investigation into this uh

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but I will tell you upon first viewing

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this clip I was uh very disappointed uh

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in uh in

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um well I'll I'll give you my commentary

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after I play it

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um so let's uh go ahead and play this

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clip which is unfortunate because

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I want to say that I truly believe in my

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heart Ross Gerber went to visit Dan or

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Dodd to show Dan odaw the light the show

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danodad how Greatful self-driving has

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become and how far it's gone

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the problem is and this is what happens

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when you enter the the uh the pig pen so

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to speak you know when when they say

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what's the saying when you wrestle with

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pigs you get muddy or you get poop all

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over yourself

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this isn't to say that anybody's vague

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particularly it's just to say when you

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wrestle with haters you know you say one

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thing wrong and 99 things correctly

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oh people will only Elevate the one

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thing that was wrong

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and Ross Gerber had a sit-down interview

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with this gentleman I think people

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should listen to it he spent an hour

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driving on FSD in Santa Barbara in

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almost a perfect manner with the

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exception of this one clip and this one

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clip is the only thing the internet

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cares about of course it has because

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that's how the internet works

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uh but anyway anybody who actually uses

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FSD

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knows whole well that FSD is not perfect

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you have to pay attention especially at

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those Edge case scenarios if you are a

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Tesla owner you know where those edge

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cases are I get onto certain highways

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I'm like ah the car makes me a little

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uncomfortable here I take over I get to

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certain intersections I'm like oh I'm

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going to take over in these areas the

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more people feel uncomfortable in those

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areas though ironically the less the car

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is able to train itself in those areas

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but then again people don't want to

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actually crash right so anyway I'm going

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to show a clip which doesn't look very

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good there is context missing though

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substantial context missing from this

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clip when you see it uh and I think it's

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worth actually seeing another clip

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before this just to sort of a preview

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and and my response to uh Omar on uh

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Twitter he's always posting uh excellent

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commentary

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on uh on Tesla and uh that was right

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here he says yesterday I had to take

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over to prevent my Tesla from running a

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red light due to a weirdly angled

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traffic light it responded to the wrong

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light basically over here on the right

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the light turns green and the car starts

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moving uh for uh Omar's interaction

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there it is right here but he's actually

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got uh a red there it is this one versus

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this one uh anyway I commented right

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here

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I said humans make this mistake daily

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ever sit in a left turn

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excuse me

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ever sit in a left turn and see the

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right slash straight Lanes hit the gas

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when the left turns green

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if you're a driver you know that feeling

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you've probably done it yourself because

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humans do that all the time and so what

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I wrote is

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FSD will eventually not make that

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mistake but humans will always make that

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mistake that's why full self-driving is

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seen as at least two and a half if not

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ten times as safe as a human driver

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without any Adas so

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with that said and with the prefaces out

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of the way uh and yes you can't remove

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all of your biases everybody knows that

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everybody knows I'm a Tesla investor uh

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Tesla's uh you know it's it's in my fund

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it's exposed personally in all of that

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right but I always like to look at

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things objectively and I have to say

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when I first watched this video I was

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very disappointed but I'll show some

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context afterwards so let's go ahead and

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start well we're not really starting

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anymore but let's get into the actual

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clippity doodly here

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no she's not a real deadhead she's never

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seen the Dead all right here we go we're

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gonna get killed by this guy

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it's on FSD now in real life I would not

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wait for this all right I disengaged

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yeah

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Ross took over that it hesitated then it

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decided to go buy it and then it was

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like no

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this is a problem

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but um

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oh

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there we go that was you breaking I

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break

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uh I wasn't gonna wait and find out

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because I saw the two cars going at each

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other so I wasn't gonna test that one

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okay so that was obviously not a very

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good look now we can break this down

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right here there's been a lot of

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speculation around this before Oh my

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gosh I'm sorry before we break this down

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you need to see context the context that

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was very very important that is highly

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missing from this video highly missing

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for this video and you should not go a

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second further without this context

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is this

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look at where the stop sign is actually

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positioned the stop sign is actually

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positioned about 20 feet at least a car

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length if not 25 feet

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from the stop line

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the problem with this and I will tell

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you in these old neighborhoods

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especially in Santa Barbara this is a

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problem

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the problem with this is I'm going to

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use this star to simulate

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uh a driver okay uh coming from the

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other side a normal driver

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a normal driver sees nobody at the stop

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line which is right here right and what

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does a normal driver do

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they cut that line

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everyone cuts the freaking line on a

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left turn that's humans everybody does

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that I'm not making excuses just saying

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that's what humans do

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you're supposed to drive out and then

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make your left but people don't do that

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okay people don't do this because it

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takes more effort they're just going to

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eat

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okay so

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understanding that about humans is very

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important one two understanding the

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distance of this stop sign from the

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actual stop line very important

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next

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what else is very important to

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understand

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after

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uh

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uh we pass this this vehicle here uh

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that uh Ross dodged after we passed this

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vehicle you could see Ross takeover

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and then he adjusts the wheel right here

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by scrolling up this is a way of telling

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the car to go faster right and Ross

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doesn't live in this area so he doesn't

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know about this stop sign coming up Dan

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probably does there you go you can see

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autopilot getting engaged and uh the car

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set it looks like it's set to a little

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bit faster than where we're going now

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yep yep yep yep in fact if you look very

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closely right here you can see the 38

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then you'll see Ross's thumb roll up

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pushes it to 40. the number on the right

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of the actual speed limit is or the

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speed the car is going is the top speed

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you're trying to set the car at so you

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can see it got set to 40. he let's go

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that leads the car to accelerate

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what frustrated me is that the car

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should not be accelerating here this was

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a problem for Tesla I did not like this

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when I saw it even before the stop sign

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I looked at this and I said no no no no

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no the car should not be accelerating

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here the car does this it happens

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sometimes and I admit that as an FSD

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driver I am acutely aware of that and I

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am acutely aware that in Curves in turns

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Tesla will often turn late in certain

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areas now don't take that out of context

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it will not always turn late often in

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certain areas it will just repeatedly

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make the same mistake right and it gets

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better and better and better I'll give

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you an example there's a lemon Factory

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and then a railroad track and then a

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sharp turn the recommended speed limit

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for that turn is 30 miles an hour

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three years ago my car would take that

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at 55 and then not until after the turn

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and it was like basically out of its

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Lane realize it screwed up

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today it slows to about 42 doesn't leave

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the lane anymore that's pretty much more

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clear that's a lot closer to a human

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driver I'd probably take that turn in

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about 38. so it's still a little on edge

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but it's gotten substantially better so

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if 38 is ideal it used to do 50 and now

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it's at 42. it's getting better

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but if this stuff takes time right

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obviously it takes time but I will say

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when I first watched this video I

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cringed because I'm like no the car

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should not be accelerating here and this

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is not in my opinion and I don't know

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but there are a lot of people

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speculating on the internet that are

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saying oh well Ross's foot is on the gas

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pedal uh and they're taking screenshots

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of Ross's foot or whatever

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I don't believe that uh I believe that

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not to say that he's accelerating uh I

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believe that to say that a lot of FSD

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drivers leave their foot where the car

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is acting so if the car is driving you

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hover your foot over the gas the reason

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people do that is a lot of people put

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their feet just flat on the floor but

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that's not in my opinion as deal because

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it actually slows your reaction speed to

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get to the break I mean just imagine it

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for a second wheel if your foot's

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hovering over the gas it's a lot easier

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for you to step on the brake and move

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over because you don't have to lift your

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foot and then hit the brake you just

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move over and step right it's like it's

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one motion as opposed to two motions

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well think about it a stomp is like a

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lift and a step whereas the the move

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over and break is kind of like one Fell

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Swoop right so a lot of FSD drivers

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actually do hover their feet over

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whatever the action of the vehicle is or

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is supposed to be at that time so like

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if I'm coming up to or red light I take

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my foot off the gas I hover it over the

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brake so that way if the car were to

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screw up or whatever I break

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the point you're still paying attention

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to some extent right uh it takes the

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whole point of FSD at least at this

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point in my opinion with how few

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disengagement it has now disengagements

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it has now the whole point is to take

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some a lot of that stress off of driving

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and really to be an assistant to be a

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partner uh to your driving eventually

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it'll just completely take over uh and

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to many regards it already has

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but anyway then uh so I don't I don't

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think Ross is hitting the gas here this

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is the car accelerating so you see this

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right here going from 33 and up this is

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the car accelerating

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now

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Ross actually and this in my opinion is

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why Ross

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is not accelerating is he feels the car

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is going fast he feels the car going

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fast here he knows he's coming up on a

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stop sign and the car is accelerating

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watch Ross scroll down on this wheel

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you're actually going to see that 40 the

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limit for the car go down to about 38.37

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there's the scroll down takes it he

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actually takes it down to about 35.

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now we see the stop side and you'll see

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Ross grabbed the wheel

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a little more firmly there with his

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right hand where whereas previously he

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wasn't holding now he's like uh oh I

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might have to take over I'm gonna hold

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the wheel here

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keep in mind there's the stop line about

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25 feet after the stop sign

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now remember what I said about when

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people turn they cut that line I promise

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you this car is cutting that line at

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least from what I see

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that car is positioned almost perfectly

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to cut right over that s and the T of

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this now it's hard to tell perfectly but

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that car is not expecting a car to be at

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the stop line if if Ross were at that

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stop line

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that car uh would have come out straight

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much more than it did look at the gap

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between this vehicle and this vehicle

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these vehicles see where this car

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stopped on the other side right see the

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car on the far side stopped right

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these cars should have virtually no gap

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between them

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there is there's almost enough of a gap

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between those cars that you could fit a

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third car in between those two left

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turning cars

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and to picture that for a moment on a

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narrow intersection like this there

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should be no Gap

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because everybody should be taking the

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turn appropriately

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let me draw that for you really quickly

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so if I draw the intersection like this

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oh my gosh this reminds me of police

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explorer days

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um if we're gonna go from uh this Lane

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and there's assuming there's a car at

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the stop sign we actually make the

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correct bow let's use Aura purple here

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we should be having some kind of turn

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like this

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and then you should be able to have

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another car

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at the same time

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do some kind of turn like this right

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there shouldn't be much of a gap uh

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between those two vehicles right here

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this shouldn't be much of a gap but

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because that white SUV took more of a

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this approach and then you kind of see

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them like course correct here because

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they see Ross come up you actually get

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this

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this look look at this they turned more

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and then they kind of straighten early

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and actually turn their wheels to the

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right see Wheels turned left turn their

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wheels to the to the right a little bit

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to avoid Ross because they were cutting

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them off

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worth noting now am I oh oh sorry I uh

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was supposed to switch back here yeah

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yeah look look at the wheels turn here

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with the wheels are ready to cut the the

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line off

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and then you could see the car's Wheels

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turn somewhat to the right and

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straightened out there

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so is this

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an excuse for FSD no FSD screwed up it

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went to that stop sign too fast

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absolutely a screw-up it should not have

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approached the stop sign that quickly

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absolutely not I can't forgive what the

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FSD did there even though that stop line

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is 25 feet behind that stop sign that

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was a mistake the car went too fast I

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believe it would have stopped but I

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would have taken over as well so fair

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takeover the car was going too fast Ross

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realized it as well that's why he

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scrolled the wheel back and slowed down

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but unfortunately the Optics of this the

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Optics of that clip do not show you all

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of the context now we need to get into

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Morgan Stanley we need to get into the

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Goldman Sachs uh um

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uh downgrades but but first

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uh It's Quickly worth looking at some of

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the drama Ross says I will ask you

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nicely once to remove and discontinue

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false advertising that includes my image

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and likeness without my permission

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thanks real Dano Dodd Daniel Dodge

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should have gotten a release signed by

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Ross before uh uh

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before putting this out there but uh

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anyway so um Dano Dodd replies then what

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will you do ask me not nicely or will

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you demand a cage match

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anyway Daniel Dot's going off on Twitter

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uh he's you know screaming this video

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confirms Tesla full self-driving runs a

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stop sign your quick reaction saved us

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remember the problem with the stop sign

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is the stop line is not visible in the

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video uh and so it's a great opportunity

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for everybody to sort of bag on on Tesla

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here uh and it's unfortunately for Ross

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making the mainstream news uh I think

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the Daily Mail was covering this uh with

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FSD uh and and some other mainstream

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agencies news agencies were

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uh blaming this this you know FSD

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failure or whatever so expect more drama

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about this uh again uh with context

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I think it's a little bit more

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understanding but I personally think the

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card which is going too fast uh that's

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my take so

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um so what else do we have here uh Steve

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Steve no no like and then I want to get

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into this this commentary here

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specifically about the the downgrades

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but no Steve of course you're going to

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course correct slightly into the right

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but the point is

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they they would have it's not like they

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swerve to the right you know they they

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were cutting off that stops I don't

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think there's a question they didn't see

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a vehicle there so of course they didn't

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leave enough room that SUV I'm not

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saying the SUVs at fault here I'm just

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saying it was a contributor to why the

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video looked the way it did uh that's it

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uh the Tesla does not acknowledge where

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the stop sign is and you have to know

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that about the software for example say

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somebody here says when Tesla passed the

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stop sign uh stop sign ahead it should

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have slowed down I agree with you I

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don't actually think it it fully pays

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attention to the signs as much as it

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should just like it doesn't pay

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attention to the recommended speed in a

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turn slides

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uh uh at least I don't think it does

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not my experience

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um so I agree with you but Teslas are

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looking for the Stop line and that's

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that's probably a problem and and I

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agree with you it was going too fast

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there so don't get me wrong I agree with

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you I agree with you that Tesla is going

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too fast and then I want to make that

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clear now let's get into some of these

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downgrades

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so uh last week we had a Morgan Stanley

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downgrade and uh going into today we are

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getting a uh Goldman Sachs downgrade

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let's start with Goldman Sachs

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g-sax

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g-sax right here is inviting you they're

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not but I'm pretending they are to check

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all right so what do we have here

20:50

Tesla downgrade to neutral with stock

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now better reflecting on positive

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long-term View

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so usually what happens is these

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analysts

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frequently I shouldn't maybe say usually

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but frequently the stock goes up

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everybody upgrades the stock the stock

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starts ticking down they all downgrade

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to neutral

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stock goes down longer they all go

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bearish it seems like they follow price

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action I don't know if it's the chicken

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or the egg but let's look at what

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they're saying because it actually isn't

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that bearish we think the market is now

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giving the stock more credit for longer

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term opportunities

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uh we think there has been less price

21:29

discounting from Tesla than investors

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feared for Q2

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and vehicle inventory seem to be falling

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faster in Q2 than expected in fact I do

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want to say my Tesla referral code

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I don't know 30 days it's kind of nuts I

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Daddy let me play with it I'm like no

22:52

this is my toy plane

22:55

mostly because Max

22:57

tangent quick tangent Max takes the

22:59

planes and he's like look daddy

23:01

holy no uh

23:06

anyway

23:07

okay so where were we uh no we still

23:11

expect pricing to decline in the second

23:13

half of 2023 is supply and demand come

23:16

into more of a balance uh it says

23:18

Goldman Sachs but we are seeing more of

23:21

an inventory cell through in Q2 and less

23:24

pricing pain than we expected is uh what

23:26

Goldman is suggesting here

23:28

uh they do suggest that the charging

23:31

Network and FSD will be limited

23:34

near-term contributors to earnings per

23:36

share but more long-term beneficiaries

23:38

uh for the stock and they suggest that

23:41

Tesla is well positioned for long-term

23:43

growth I always think it's crazy that

23:46

when you have these these companies

23:48

these analysts are like oh this is a

23:50

company that's that's positioned for

23:52

long-term growth

23:54

and then they downgrade the stock

23:57

it's crazy uh anyway uh third generation

24:02

platform oh right these are the next

24:05

catalysts right so they touch on uh gen

24:08

3 your your uh 50 vehicle cost reduction

24:11

trying to get to that 25 000 car the

24:14

Cyber truck oh my gosh have you seen the

24:18

Cyber truck uh videos that have been

24:21

circulating if you haven't seen the

24:22

Cyber truck videos you're about to see

24:24

the Cyber truck videos because

24:26

they're showing the Cyber truck with the

24:29

freaking rear wheel rotating and I'm

24:32

like I thought that was gonna be

24:34

clickbait not only moves like 10 but

24:37

this is like straight up

24:39

warthog

24:41

if anybody played Halo and I'm talking

24:44

all the original I'm talking OG okay I'm

24:47

like Halo one Combat Evolved baby the

24:51

enemy has captured Captain keys and

24:53

they're holding him important enemy girl

24:54

whatever anyway the warthog's wheels

24:58

turn in the back to help you make a turn

25:00

and uh this was remarkable to me just

25:04

watch the back wheel turn slightly as

25:07

they make this tight turn it's like oh

25:08

my gosh see the back wheels turning out

25:11

as the front wheel is turning right to

25:13

tighten the turn radius

25:15

[Laughter]

25:17

it's amazing

25:18

amazing so uh anyway back to where we

25:22

were uh Goldman Sachs EPS for this next

25:26

cycle not good it's only a 275. the

25:30

market has Tesla at 350 right now uh and

25:33

then you get to about roughly in line so

25:36

these are in line this is very low very

25:38

very low

25:40

and they acknowledge that I mean they

25:41

well they say slightly below I'm like uh

25:43

no like 15 to 20 below

25:46

it's not slightly in my opinion but

25:49

whatever they believe that Q2 deliveries

25:51

are doing well tracking uh for 445 to

25:54

450 uh the Tesla cars are awesome they

25:58

have efficiency uh this this opening the

26:01

charging network is just gonna actually

26:03

help Tesla not only expand the pie of

26:05

charging Revenue but create more

26:07

charging stations

26:09

they did say that part of the reason for

26:11

their downgrade

26:14

sorry uh was that

26:16

AMD and Nvidia are now trading for 42

26:20

and 55 times

26:22

uh the next 12 months earnings and

26:25

Tesla's sitting at 93 times

26:27

I think if you use the correct EPS it's

26:30

not that bad but yes all of these

26:33

companies have gotten significantly more

26:35

expensive they were all under a 1.5 Peg

26:40

when I bought the crap out of them at

26:42

the end of last year

26:43

now they're all above a two Peg again

26:46

Peg is PE divided by growth anyway

26:49

expected growth so what about Morgan

26:52

Stanley well Morgan Stanley's got a

26:54

piece too but Morgan Stanley's always

26:56

got a piece

27:00

um is that inappropriate anyway uh so I

27:04

just need to find it oh oopsies I put it

27:07

on my other iPad I have it I'll have it

27:09

in just one second

27:10

so oh here we go so the Morgan Stanley

27:14

uh downgrade was a last week end of last

27:19

week it's right here

27:21

so they have a price target of 250

27:24

they are moving to an equal weight their

27:27

bulk case is actually 450. 450 on the

27:31

bull case 90 bucks for the bear case

27:35

uh so then we have I did not see this

27:39

111 percent year-to-date rally coming it

27:42

says Morgan Stanley uh while the team

27:45

has defended Tesla as an overweight

27:46

rating they didn't expect this

27:49

we are not trying to call the end of the

27:52

Tesla rally uh

27:54

uh so in other words they're just trying

27:56

to say like we're not trying to be the

27:58

Bears here okay uh they actually call it

28:00

a must-owned stock in any EV portfolio

28:04

quite frankly I think it should be a

28:06

must-stone stock in any portfolio let me

28:09

be clear for The Regulators watching I

28:11

respect you this is not personalized

28:14

Financial advice this is this is bad

28:17

Market commentary anyway

28:19

um some investors may feel inclined to

28:22

play the positive momentum we believe

28:25

the stock upside from here must come uh

28:28

despite our view of continued downside

28:30

SKU uh uh basically they're saying look

28:33

you've got

28:35

you've got some near-term technical

28:36

risks for the stock probably

28:38

contributing to their their uh

28:40

downgrade but longer term uh in their

28:44

bullish scenario it's it's you have to

28:46

you have to own it uh and of course they

28:49

talk about uh you know TBD how the

28:53

autonomous section of AI uh for Tesla

28:56

FSD will play out

28:57

but take a look at this this I thought

28:59

was interesting

29:03

despite the recent rally we expect

29:05

material negative revisions for Tesla

29:08

consensus earnings forecast and continue

29:11

to expect a long-term trend of price

29:13

decreases and average price declines at

29:17

Tesla driven by intensifying competition

29:19

with Chinese EV players and slowing

29:22

Consumer Auto purchases

29:24

so Goldman said this as well

29:28

and what does Kevin say

29:30

this isn't to say that Kevin knows

29:33

everything I definitely don't I'm just

29:35

saying

29:36

I think

29:37

Tesla will go free cash flow negative

29:42

and might have to raise money okay

29:47

I've said it before I'll say it again it

29:49

doesn't make me a bear but I do think

29:51

there's a there's a risk that there will

29:54

be an offering uh of either shares

29:57

convertibles uh some new debt financing

30:00

they've got way too many gigafactories

30:03

building at the same time right now with

30:05

even more announcements coming uh I I

30:07

you know you got the expansion of Nevada

30:09

Northeast Mexico Berlin Texas it's

30:13

um

30:15

it's going to be very expensive anyway

30:17

so they're questioning uh have we gone

30:21

through

30:22

the the worst of it for Tesla do we

30:25

still have some potential headwinds I

30:27

think we absolutely have headwinds I

30:29

actually think though that those are the

30:31

remaining headwinds so I I want to be

30:33

clear

30:35

if if Tesla is uh let's say um

30:40

all right you ready for this

30:42

um let's say over here this is like a a

30:45

nasty swampy nasty mosquito-filled Marsh

30:49

okay and uh and the Beautiful the

30:53

beautiful Heavenly maiden and the sexy

30:55

valley is over here this way in that

30:58

direction over there you know we're

31:00

probably we're probably like right there

31:03

and uh and there's still a bog monster

31:06

right here at the bog monster is like

31:10

come into my pit uh

31:14

so in other words you still have to get

31:17

through this this short-term negativity

31:20

uh which could be what I just said an

31:23

offering negative free cash flow a

31:26

margin decline uh these are all short

31:29

term we know that Tesla is going to

31:31

survive this

31:33

obviously we highly expect that like we

31:35

know that Tesla will make it here past

31:38

the bog monster we know Tesla's going to

31:41

make it there we just don't know what

31:43

that this this transition is like is it

31:46

like this is it like we're gonna skip

31:47

over the bog monster we're gonna go

31:49

through the bog monster or we're gonna

31:52

get bogged and then come back who knows

31:54

uh but but once once we get through that

31:57

you know the light's already there it's

31:59

just a matter of getting through that my

32:00

take

32:01

stay away from the bog monster

32:03

don't yell at me if there's a short-term

32:06

correction

32:07

but of course if it rallies it was

32:10

completely am I doing

32:11

just like uh when we convinced Elon to

32:14

advertise and started the longest Tesla

32:17

rally ever

32:19

patting myself on the back I did that

32:21

I'm taking all credit for it screw you

32:24

Okay so uh the rise of Chinese ovms uh

32:29

look China's entire economy is slowing

32:31

down so you know I do think there's a

32:34

risk factor in China uh there there

32:37

there's there's a real risk in China and

32:39

Tesla does sell a lot of vehicles in

32:41

China uh although uh we know that the

32:43

Giga Shanghai is is a big export Market

32:45

it'd still be nice to sell them locally

32:47

uh it'll it'll keep margins propped up

32:50

and so you do have some risks over here

32:53

uh okay cool uh so what else we have

32:57

here Tesla has been losing share in

32:59

China since the peak of 2020. I I I I I

33:01

I oh losing share to who wait I'm sorry

33:04

we have to fix the grammar losing share

33:06

to

33:07

whom uh and that would actually be

33:10

yd

33:12

remember folks okay if the answer is to

33:16

him then it's whom if it is to he then

33:21

it is who sorry uh anyway yeah I mean

33:25

byd is is obviously your killer over

33:28

there mostly because the hybrids are

33:30

incredibly affordable uh byd's pure EV

33:33

sales were declining relative to Tesla

33:35

and q1 but their hybrids are just so

33:37

affordable and with the crushed economy

33:39

over there it it for some people just

33:41

doesn't make the sense to make that leap

33:43

to Pure EV right now

33:47

we think that Tesla might have been

33:49

caught up in the Ava AI multiple premium

33:51

given the recent wave of Interest

33:53

surrounding technology and excuse me

33:55

where's the talk about Tesla being

33:57

willing to advertise and that being the

34:00

Catalyst what is this

34:03

um

34:04

this is like this is like chat GPT

34:07

trying to convince uh me the other day

34:09

that Chris Hanson was the person who

34:12

convinced Elon Musk to advertise I I

34:14

chatted back to it I'm like WTF Chris

34:17

Hanson wasn't even there and it's like

34:19

oh my apologies it was actually YouTuber

34:21

Kevin pafrath oh my God

34:25

anyway

34:26

bear case here we've been we they

34:28

include uh Tesla Mobility at zero

34:30

dollars bear case is only 5.5 million

34:33

units by 2030. 5.5 million units is like

34:36

my expectation for like 2020 and a

34:39

little earlier than that a few years

34:40

earlier than that uh base case for them

34:43

is actually 7.9 million units by 2030.

34:46

and uh then then they actually give them

34:49

10 million units by uh 2030 on the bull

34:51

case uh although you'll get some like

34:53

Elon aiming for 20. uh million units we

34:59

shall see that cyber truck might be a

35:01

big hit I'm excited about it I mean the

35:03

more I see about the Cyber truck the

35:06

more excited I get about it that's for

35:07

sure

35:08

so um

35:11

yeah uh that uh that's what I've got for

35:14

uh for the Tesla update uh I'm gonna go

35:18

uh play with my pee pee now here I go

35:21

look at that

35:24

I'm gonna end up dropping it

35:26

uh it'll shatter them actually I think

35:29

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