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Iris Energy. Is this the next big 10x
stock that everybody's talking about?
Because already it's a boomer as in like
the stock is booming to the moon. It's
gone from $5 in April around Liberation
to being liberated to a 5x at $26 per
share. Now a $7 billion market cap
company. Is this the company to keep
investing in? take chips off the table.
What even is it? Well, we dove into it
this morning because somebody on the
live stream donated a buck.99. And this
is not personalized financial advice for
them. But this video was inspired by
your commentary in our live stream. So,
thanks for always being there uh and
talking about this company, which so
much sounds like I want to read this off
as Iran, but it's actually INE, which is
Iris Energy. And at first, I'm like, all
right, you know, what is this? Is this
just going to be like another meme play
or something? Something that's getting
an increase in volume here. Uh and it's
going to, you know, crash and burn the
likes of which, you know, uh you only
see at like, I don't know, an open door,
which should be renamed closed door. Uh
obviously, we already know the old news
at this point that they secured
basically a big lease contract for
Nvidia chips. They came up with this new
phrase. I haven't heard of this before.
We're pleased to have secured Nvidia
partner a preferred partner status. I
think this is really just a way of
saying, "Hey, Nvidia will sell us big
chips because we can flash the cash and
pay for it." So, I don't really think
that status means anything. Like, Nvidia
wants to sell these chips, right? I
mean, it's kind of like going to your
Costco and being like, "I got a big
grocery store order." And they're like,
"Oh, do you have the money to pay?" "Oh,
you do? All right. Yeah, we'll sell you.
We'll say we we'll ship it to your back
door for you." Great. That's like
preferential treatment. We'll take it.
But anyway, basically, here's a company
that's kind of trying to be like
Corewave. That's the way I think of
them. But they've got some really big
differences to core. Uh, and that's
actually where I want to start with my
analysis on them because I think it's
most interesting that this company has
significantly less debt than Core Weef.
That's what I want you to pay attention
to with this company. And then I'll tell
you why. So, watch this. Coreweave has
$13.9
billion of debt. That's about $6.5
short-term. Then they've got a bunch of
other debt as well. Like, I'm not even
including everything in here. This is
the sheet on right here. What I'm really
doing is I'm taking uh their their uh
current liabilities uh of about $6.5
billion, not including deferred
revenues. I'm taking their non-current
debt of about another 7.4. It's roughly
13.9 billion dollars in debt at
Corewave, right? Well, they have
equipment of 16.6 million a billion
dollars. So, think about that. It's kind
of like real estate, right? I got real
estate of $16 billion and 13.9 in debt.
Well, that's an 83%
debt to asset ratio at Corewee. That's a
lot of freaking debt. And it's one of
the reasons I actually made a video on
the channel two or three weeks ago like
you know why the core weave crash should
scare you and we talked about how you
know it it got mega hyped up and
momentum up from 40 but eventually it's
going to be a bag holder and and you
know in the near term it has downside
risks and and you know the stock is
plummeted on coreweave. I you look at
core right here look at this
deceleration of momentum right here.
It's basically following your fib
retracement straight down the lines.
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Debt to PPE. So, it's kind of like debt
to real estate, right? Debt to equity,
debt to plant property and equipment at
Ian or Iris Energy is only 7 and a
half%.
So at Coreweave you have 83.7%
debt 13.9 billion to 16.6 in plant
property equipment. Iris Energy has debt
of about
150 million bucks. Look at this. Current
liabilities 150 million bucks. They do
have convertibles, but I'm not including
those because that's going to convert to
equity of about a billion bucks here.
And you could rerun the math if you want
and put this in. But honestly, even if
you did, even if you took $1.1 billion
and you slapped that onto their PPE or
as a ratio of their um plant, property,
and equipment of two, uh you'd be
sitting at about 55% if you included
their convertible, but this is going to
convert to equity, so it's going to be
gone.
So, it's still way less debt than what
they have at Coreweave. If you compare
their debt to market cap, debt to market
cap, so 16, you know, 6ish or sorry, uh,
13.9 billion divided by the market cap
at Core Weave, you're at 30.2%. At Iris,
you're only at 2.1%.
So way less debt, which is fan
freakingastic at Iris. I like that. I
like starting at the balance sheet. And
so then I'm like, all right, why is
their balance sheet so good? Like, where
is all the money coming from? And here
it is. Bitcoin, baby. Oh, I didn't mean
to do that. As I hit the keyboard, the
page slipped. Uh, Bitcoin,
they have actually seen a six like a a
of their Bitcoin revenue increase, which
has exploded. They made almost half a
billion dollars in Bitcoin mining
revenue compared to $184 million last
year. Now almost half a billion. 61% of
the increase came because Bitcoin price
went up. Now, that's both a good and a
bad. It's good because it means they got
a lot of money that they could spend on
capital expenditures from crypto revenue
and not have to finance it. In fact, if
you look at their cash flow statement,
you could see that yes, they issued
convertibles $700 million. Yes, they did
issue stock of $600 million. So, they
raised money to go invest in AI chips
now, data center chips, right? They
started this transition in 2024. They
were a Bitcoin mining company. that's
like, "Wow, we could go make money with
AI data centers." Yes, they're following
the trend. It is fashionable to get into
AI data centers right now over AS6 for
mining, you know, Bitcoin or Ethereum or
whatever. And so what you end up finding
is they ended up blowing 573
million on plant property and equipment
in the last year. They are plowing money
into these AI data centers. But
understand that they generated $245
million in net cash from their
operations. A lot of that driven by
mining revenues. So I think that's why
they have lower debt is they're able to
take their mining revenues and plow it
into servers in a profitable manner.
They're making money. Uh they didn't
always make money because the Bitcoin
mining revenue has exploded. And so
they're making money even when you
include depreciation of $181 million on
probably at least some of this
accelerated depreciation. They are still
making money which then enables this
sort of flywheel of throwing more money
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when Bitcoin's price goes up, but I, you
know, I don't want to sound redundant or
like, you know, this should be obvious,
but if Bitcoin's price trends down, then
obviously you're going to have less
money that you can use from Bitcoin
mining to go invest into chips and then
you're going to have to borrow more. So,
the good thing though with this company
is they have the capacity to borrow more
because in my opinion, their debt
position is substantially lower than
that of Corwe. So, like if somebody's
like, "Kevin, you need to pick one to
invest in." Even though this is a much
smaller company, I'd much rather invest
in Iris Energy than Chloroise. Now, I'm
personally not the biggest fan of
investing in data centers in general
because I think that eventually they're
going to be the bag holders of the
industry. Like, Nvidia is going to make
their profits. They're going to make
their high revenues, their their high
margin uh revenues because they don't
even manufacture the chips. They just
design them. Nvidia is going to make
their money. They're going to cash out.
the server rack manufacturers or you
know the collators basically like Dell
or Super Micro they'll make their money
albeit at a low margin and the bag
holders are going to be these companies
like Coreweave or Iris Energy that
eventually hold all these chips and then
we're looking around going man do we
really need this much AI compute I don't
know that's the big risk here so you
could have a combined risk right you
could have a recession where capex
spending goes down on data centers LLMs
become a commodity and Bitcoin prices
fall all at the same time, then you're
going to be left holding the bag of all
these AS6 and GPUs that aren't being
fully utilized and you're screwed. So,
that's like your bare scenario. The good
news is Iris Energy again has less debt
than uh the other, you know, than their
competitor Corweave. The downside is
what happens if they don't end up being
able to convert the convertibles. So you
really want like if you really want to
get into this, you should look at the
details of their convertible because it
is possible that their convertible debt
doesn't end up converting if their stock
price plummets in the event of some kind
of recession and then you do have that
billion dollars of convertible debt.
Right? That's going to be something to
pay attention to. Uh the convertibles,
I'm trying to see if I could find it
really quickly if they have any uh
outlined on here, but I don't want to
spend too much. Let's see here. uh
embedded convertible nodes.
Convertibles. Convertibles.
Convertibles. Okay. So, we have $550
million of three and a half%
convertibles due in 2029. Okay. So, they
converted 2029. But at what price? What
do they convert at? 2029.
Uh in conjunction prepaid uh purchase uh
aggregate shares blah blah blah blah.
Might be a h. So, they're due in 2029.
So, you've honestly you've got some time
here. uh you've got four years, right?
So, it's probably not that big of a
deal, but that that sets up a little bit
of a bare case scenario for you if
you're in like an extended downturn in
2029, right? So, just something to keep
in mind if you're thinking about this
company. They've also got quite a bit of
mining hardware worth paying attention
to as well. Uh and they're expanding
quite a bit. I mean, their their
facilities, you could see they've got
facilities. I'll pull it up for you
here. Uh, you can actually see this as
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information. But uh here on screen you
could see that uh you've got multiple
British Columbia sites. It's very common
to have British Columbia sites because
you have really good hydro power over
there. Hydroelectric. It's inexpensive.
Uh it's efficient. Uh you know it's this
company brands themselves as a green
energy company. The like you know
renewable resources only for their data
centers. Let's be real. They just buy
renewable credits to offset when they're
using natural gas in like Texas or
whatever for their, you know, Childress
Horizon 1 facility or the Sweetwater
facilities. A lot of these under
construction. They've got more. They've
got like a total of 3.9 gawatts of
electricity expected. This is big. Like
this company is rightfully so. They
survived the early crypto winter of 20,
you know, or whatever. They survived the
crypto winter. Now they're pivoting to
AI using revenues that they're getting
from Bitcoin uh and and plowing it into
AI data centers. And honestly, they're
they're doing a great job here. I mean,
they've got 5.5,000
Blackwell 200s. They've got 2.3,000
uh 300s, B300s. Uh they've got 1.2K
GB300s. And this is in addition to the
lease that they just signed. They just
signed a lease for I want to say it was
$1,900 of them worth about $168 million
with Nvidia. Two-year lease contract,
which is basically the full payment of
them. Uh, and they are financing it at
$96 million. Yeah, there it is. 168
million total cost financing of 96. So,
they are increasing some of their
financing, but I think they have the
capacity to do that because they're in
relatively low debt position trading for
about 22 times earnings. We have no idea
how the earnings are going to move in
terms of volatility. I do think there is
serious risk that if you do see a
deterioration in Bitcoin pricing that
you're just going to end up with a big
old poopy dupy uh for longer term uh
EPS. So, it's going to make it really
hard to forecast a PEG ratio here
because you're just going to be watching
Bitcoin prices. But this gives you an
idea of this company that not a lot of
people know about, but I uh again Iris
Energy ticker I I don't I don't really
like the ticker, but you know, who
cares? So, uh you know, again, to me,
much more desirable than than what I'm
seeing at Corwave. And now, these types
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