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Hey everyone, me Kevin here. In this
video, I have to say I am disappointed
with Kathy Wood. [snorts] And I'm going
to break down the most salient arguments
that Kathy Wood made in her recent
video. I'm going to break down with
facts my belief as to why some of the
things Kathy Wood is saying are just
blatantly wrong. And I'm very
disappointed because usually I agree
with almost everything Kathy has to say.
I think one of the biggest differences
between myself and Kathy right now is
that while first we totally agree that
we're going to see the explosion of
innovation between 2024 and 2030 that's
the longer term right that six-year end
of the decade period I completely agree
genomics is in its infancy explosion of
cash flow DNA sequencing energy storage
adaptive robotics blockchain tech
everything a convergence of innovation
completely agree that these things are
going to lead to deflation
in broader markets in prices and massive
profits for innovative companies.
Completely agree. But it's the time
between 2022 and 2024 that I'm nervous
about and that I have some bones to pick
with Kathy Wood that 2022 and 2023 are
not what Kathy Wood is suggesting. Let's
go through item by item her argument and
then my response. So, first Kathy Wood
argues that we're already seeing a
significant amount of monetary
tightening and that because we're
already seeing monetary tightening,
maybe markets are overdoing the
sell-off, that maybe we're overly
negative and overly fearful because
we've already seen tightening and we
don't need to worry about tightening
anymore. Well, folks, let's actually
look at the facts. So, Kathy Wood
provides evidence that we are tightening
money growth as her first evidence. And
she suggests that, hey, look, the amount
of money growth that we've seen used to
be at 27% year-over-year during the
pandemic, during the early part of the
pandemic, we printed so much money.
That's down to 13% recently. And if you
zoom in even more, it's down to 8%
growth in in the expansion of the money
supply or M2 money supply, right? But
unfortunately, I worry that Kathy is
stuck in in here with a recency bias.
Kathy's only looking here at how we've
seen this decline of essentially money
supply growth from 27% down to this 13
or recently 8%. But Kathy isn't actually
zooming out to realize that we are still
expanding the money supply substantially
more than the 3 to 4% that we usually do
during normal times. This is not a sign
of tightening. This sign of of a drop
here is not tightening. This is a
removal of a lot of accommodation while
still providing accommodation. We are
still printing money right now. We're
still printing 30 to$45 billion per
month right now with the Federal
Reserve. We are still stimulating the
economy and we'll talk about stimulus in
just a moment because folks forget that
we still have a flow of stimulus. Kathy
Wood suggests a stimulus flow is over
that the that now we're tightening
because we've seen this decline. But
that's not right. Just because you're
comparing to a time in 2020 when we
opened the floodgates of money and yeah,
we had a lot of money printing and and
creation then. And yes, today things are
relatively less than they were then.
Doesn't mean that that money just
disappears. It doesn't work that way.
Right now, this is where Kathy would
then suggest that uh Jerome Powell
because we're already tightening might
end up just telegraphing uh and end up
acting with a 50 basis point hike uh in
in in the March meeting. Essentially
saying, look, because we're already
tightening, maybe we'll do a 50 basis
point hike. So, a half percent hike on
March 16th and then we'll just take a
pause. We'll just stop for a moment
because after all, it's an election year
and maybe we don't want to end up
rocking the boat during an election year
because then Powell could be accused of
potentially uh you know having a
political bias, which we'll talk about
the political bias aspect in just a
moment. But here's here's the problem.
Okay, Kathy Wood thinks that they're
going to raise rates half a percent and
then pause and not do more because we've
tightened enough. But unfortunately,
this is relatively the opposite of what
Jerome Powell says. Now, even though
Jerome Powell doesn't give us crystal
clarity, Kathy Wood implies that he has
given us clarity when the reality is if
anything, he's giving us the opposite
indications. This is where you have to
make up your own mind. Jerome Powell
says that we want to quote reduce the
balance sheet in a predictable manner
over time and we want it to be orderly
and predictable. That is the opposite of
implying one and done, right? But that's
for the balance sheet. What about rates?
Well, Kathy Wood is suggesting that uh
we're going to have this half uh point
half uh percentage point increase and
then maybe the federal pause. But wait a
minute, Jerome Powell was literally
asked this question during the last
Federal Reserve uh FOMC press
conference. Jerome Powell was literally
asked, "What about just frontloading
interest rate increases and then
pausing?" And that is literally what
Kathy Wood is suggesting is going to
happen. A front-loading of interest rate
increases and then a pause. And Jerome
Powell was literally asked this
question. And this was Jerome Powell's
response. And I'm going to leave the
conclusion up to you. Does Jerome
Powell's response agree with Kathy Wood
or suggests something entirely
different? This is for you to analyze.
Okay. What about front-loading Jerome
Powell? Jerome Powell responds with the
following. This is a very different
expansion with higher inflation and
higher growth in a much stronger
economy. These differences are likely to
be reflected in our policy. We haven't
determined any ceiling on rate
increases. We want to move steadily away
from accommodative economic effects.
We'll be guided by the data and we'll
try to communicate that as clearly as
possible. But we know the economy is in
a different place today. It is a much
stronger economy that we have today with
major differences from the past. We have
much more inflation that we've seen in
prior tightening cycles. So does Jerome
Powell's response here align more with
Kathy that we're going to do a oneand
done in March and then go away or does
it align more with a steady Eddie rate
hike? We got to keep pushing and we got
to walk the walk at the Fed to finally
raise rates consistently, steadily, and
be very clear with our intentions and
actually follow through with them. I'm
going to leave the conclusion to that up
to you. I think it's pretty obvious
which side my opinion lies on this one.
And in case it's not, I think Kathy's
wrong on this one. [laughter]
Just anyway. Uh then Kathy suggests this
argument and this is a very very
commonly held belief uh that uh that
might not be founded in fact. And there
are a couple things that we really have
to break apart here because I'm a little
bit disappointed in Kathy in this. But
first, I just have to mention to you
very commonly held belief. Maybe Jerome
Powell won't want to raise rates
aggressively in 2022 because we have a
midterm election year. Well, look, I
don't know if this is just a correlation
without causation aspect or whatever.
But let's just look at some other
election related time frames and compare
them to non-election related time
frames. Take a look at this. In 2016,
which was a presidential election year,
we had an interest rate liftoff. If
Kathy Wood would is right, we we
wouldn't do that during a presidential
election year because that could be a
sign of political bias. In 2018, we
overly hiked rates during the midterm
elections. In 2000, leading into the dot
crash, we hiked rates numerous times,
four to five times, leading rates to go
from 5.25 to 6.5% in less than a year.
In 1992, which was also a presidential
election year, interest rates were
actually suddenly cut 1%. And frankly,
the most stable times at the Federal
Reserve, seemed to be non-election years
or periods of massive political issues.
So, we seem to have a more calm Fed
during politically calm periods and a
more active Fed during politically
active periods, which is kind of an
opposite. I mean, consider this. Between
2010 and 2016, the Fed was pretty quiet
until Donald Trump happened on the scene
in 2016. In 2021, the Fed was mostly
quiet, talking about how inflation's
transitory, and we've had, you know,
essentially no elections, right? There
haven't been elections other than the
California recall in 2021. In well, and
of course some other elections, but but
minor ones, no nothing nationally. Uh
between 1995 and 1998, no no massive
elections here, uh the Federal Reserve
changed virtually nothing. So I think
the the suggestion that politics affects
the Fed comes from the c cynicism that
the Fed really cares more about politics
than the actual economy and preserving
the dollar as much as they can. And
while I agree that the Fed can be
influenced by politics like Biden
potentially threatening Jerome Powell's
job, which I believe happened, I do not
see election years as actually providing
causation to action or not at the
Federal Reserve. I I personally think
this is a little bit of a weak argument.
uh and and I I can't say that it's
definitely a definite aspect that there
is political influence or that there is
not. I'm sure there is some level of
political influence, but I I don't think
we can we can make bets with our money
that the Fed's not going to do something
just because of politics. His history
doesn't say we can make that bet. Uh at
least, you know, other than being a yolo
and and a totally shot in the dark. A
total shot in the dark. Now, uh then
Kathy would suggest that our economy is
is actually quite weak. And this I have
a little bit of a problem with because
you know I don't know about your economy
Kathy, but GDP came in at 5.7% in
January with an annualized rate of
growth of over uh 6% for Q4. This is the
largest gain that we've had since 1984.
And I'm not sure if you've been paying
attention to some of the earnings calls
here, but Microsoft, Amazon, Apple,
Starbucks, GM, Ford, Tesla, Ralph
Lauren, UPS, Caterpillar, or Gibway
Clark, just to name a few of the
earnings reports that I've read, have
literally all literally all of them said
that they have had the highest levels of
demand that they have ever seen and the
highest pricing power that they have
ever seen in recent decades. Now, the
only complaint that they have is they're
being held back by dynamics, dynamics
like supply chains and labor costs. Now
Kathy then so so I disagree that this is
a slow economy. The fact that Kathy Wood
is suggesting that our economy is
slowing I I I I don't see that. I think
our economy is actually very very very
strong right now which I know some
people argue then they're like well
Kevin if the economy is so strong how
could we go into a recession? Well a
recession is only two negative GDP
prints in a row right and we if we have
that then all of a sudden you might see
consumers turn inward and stop spending.
That's when you could potentially see
the deflation from excessive inventories
and people stop spending. But right now
we're we're not there, right? And we're
talking on quarterto quarter basis here.
Now Kathy then points to fiscal outlays
peaking in 2022 and suggests that this
is because she thinks that the child tax
credit ended in December. She said
thanks. We're going to clarify this. Uh
and that there really haven't been any
other forms of stimulus checks and and
that the government isn't spending as
much money on people as they did
previously. No. While this is broadly
true, Kathy missed again some facts
here. And and this is where I'm thinking
to myself, Kathy, come on. Y'all got
hundreds of millions of dollars to hire
researchers. You should know the answer
to this. You should know this. I'm one
dude sitting in this room here doing 99%
of my own research. [laughter]
Uh, no. Anyway, look. Okay, let's
clarify this about the child tax credit.
The child tax credit came in two
batches. Batch number one did end in
December. This is correct, Kathy. Batch
number one ended in December. Batch
number one was a monthly payment of $250
to $300 per child depending on the age
of the child for six months ending in
December. The second batch will come as
a refundable tax credit on individuals
tax returns. Guess what? Not in
December, in February, March, or April.
This means that millions of households
will actually be getting a very large
stimulus check. The largest stimulus
check that we've ever had. Remember, we
had $1,400, $1,200, and $600. This means
we're going to have the largest stimulus
check ever actually coming in March,
February, or April via a refundable tax
credit on people's tax returns of $1,500
to $1,800 per child. So, the largest
stimulus check ever is actually still on
its way. That's massive. This is likely
to lead to another temporary surge of
demand and reiterate companies pricing
power. But Kathy made no mention of
this. The fact that companies are
suggesting they have so much pricing
power and the fact that all of this this
extra these extra little surges of of
spending that people have from having
higher bank balance sheets or or
household balance sheets, higher bank uh
higher net worths, whatever. The fact
that Kathy is ignoring this confuses me
a little bit. I'm I'm not sure why this
would not be talked about. Of course,
fiscal policy will calm down. I agree
with this. And I believe we're actually
going to set up for a really weird and
rude awakening potentially in Q3 and Q4
when at the same time as finally
stimulus ends and the Fed stimulus ends
because remember the Fed's still
printing money today. We're still
getting a massive stimulus check ahead
of us. Still got growing inflation ahead
of us, right? So we're going to go
through more pain first while consumers
are still going to feel strong. And then
the concern is if inflation doesn't go
down, then all of a sudden finally we
see less consumer purchasing power, less
consumer spending at the same potential
time as we have less support on
accommodative policies. Maybe the Fed
has tightened too much and then this is
where potentially we push into a
recessionary period. Hopefully it is
short and shallow. Uh but but that seems
to be the trajectory we're heading on
right now. So uh Fed's still printing
money. Congress is still sending checks
to people. Uh and and really little
evidence here of a weak economy. Now
Kathy does suggest that we've seen a
decline of the annual work week of 6% or
an annualized rate of about 6%. But
makes no mention of the fact that this
was a measure from January where it
would make sense that we saw a little
bit of a decline in people's work week
because of omocron. Kathy only makes the
mention of omocrron when making
essentially an excuse for why wages were
going up potentially because of
omocrron. So that was weird. Why mention
omocron as a reason why wages went up,
but not mention omocron as a potential
reason why the work week was lower in
the last jobs report?
I'm I'm I'm not jing with this. Usually
I love Kathy Wood videos and and I'll
tell you, I don't want to come across as
harsh here, but I think when we just
look at the facts and and we compare
reality, then then we have we have some
cause for concern here. I want to be the
perma bull. I want to be the bull going,
"Let's go. we're going to the moon on
these innovation plays. I'm a little
concerned. Anyway, uh then Kathy talks
about how purchasing power is declining.
Now, this I agree is a good argument.
You know, we've had real wage growth
negative over the last year. That means
inflation's at 7% and wage growth has
been 5% year-over-year. Uh that's a
negative, right? People are losing
purchasing power. The problem,
unfortunately, is that Kathy is
suggesting, see, people are losing
purchasing power. This means our economy
is weak right now. Wrong. All you have
to do is actually look at the bank
earnings that are suggesting people have
way more money in their uh checking
accounts than ever before. Yeah, the
saving rates have declined, but they
still have bigger balance sheets now,
which means they could potentially still
be spending very strongly for the next
two to three quarters. Entirely
possible, right? All you have to do is
look at Visa or Mastercard to see people
are spending money like crazy,
especially in retail stores. And so
Kathy is suggesting that we're already
seeing a slowdown when the reality is
we're seeing only the potential of a
slowdown get baked in. And this is a
problem because if Kathy thinks we're
slowing down now, but really what we're
setting up for is a slowdown at the end
of the year, I think Kathy's going to
have a disappointing year. I hope not.
But I I think this is there's the lag
time here is misaligned. You can't look
at the jobs data and say, "Oh, see
people's purchasing power is declining."
Without realizing that people have more
money and feel richer than ever before.
Again, look at bank earnings, JP Morgan,
Wells Fargo, City. They all tell you the
same thing and not realize that, wait a
minute, okay, this means this decline in
p purchasing power isn't going to hit us
for for two to three quarters
potentially. And we should really
consider that when we're investors
rather than considering, oh, no, no,
things are slowing down now when they're
not because that would imply that if
things are slowing down now that then
maybe the Fed doesn't have to hike as
much. But that's not what we're actually
seeing. That's not what the numbers are
actually saying. Now, Kathy Wood does
suggest that consumer sentiment has has
started declining and then sites
specifically how people are a little bit
less inclined to purchase cars right
now, but this is no surprise. You go to
a dealership right now, they will price
a Prius that usually sells for $35,000,
which is already crazy. May as well buy
a Tesla. Uh they'll price a Prius at
$35,000 and they'll literally throw on
their dealer markup $10,000 just because
they can. Of course, the sentiment for
buying durables has been declining. This
is the same thing that the New York's
Fed survey found that people have to
spend more money right now on essentials
uh than than on non-essentials. And the
biggest sector getting hit is durables.
Well, yeah, because pricing for durables
has shot up. And we are going to see a
longer term shift where people finally
start saying, "Okay, that's it. These
prices are too high. We can't pay these
prices anymore." And when we see that
shift, that's maybe when the prices
start coming down. But it's too early to
actually see that shift, especially
since we're still seeing prices go up
for durables. Okay? we're still seeing
that inflation for pretty much
everything. Uh then Kathy talks about
how sales at Amazon are only up 9% and
how this is a very very low comp. And
she says even coming out of the
recession uh when when Amazon had really
really strong comps, they did better
than 9% growth. But I think Kathy missed
the point here that Amazon's comps were
so so strong and we only had 9% growth
because we didn't come out just of just
a recession. We came out of a
stay-at-home pandemic where of course
spending on Amazon surged and of course
the year-over-year comps are going to be
very very difficult. So this argument
that sales at Amazon only went up 9% is
is is kind of laughable because again it
it discards the fact that we just came
out of a pandemic style recession not an
'08 financial crisis. Very very mis
misaligned here on this one in my
opinion Kathy. And then on top of that
she says that this one really peeved me.
Okay this one really really peeved me.
She suggests that Facebook saw weakness
in the consumer sector and that's why
Facebook is having problems. No, Kathy,
Facebook did not say they're seeing
weakness in the consumer sector. I'll
tell you exactly what they said by
showing you literally what they said.
They said, "We're hearing from
advertisers that macroeconomic
challenges like inflation and supply
chain disruptions are impacting
advertiser budgets." That does not say
the consumer is spending less money. It
literally says supply chains and
inflation is hurting advertisers. That's
This is This is bad, Kathy. I'm
disappointed.
These It should not be that easy for one
person to discredit some of these
things. Again, I do not want to make
this. It's It's not like I have a fund
and I'm like, "Oh, buy my fund instead
of Cathy's fund." No, like there's
nothing nothing like that. The only
sponsor for this video is Extra. And I
love Extra. And I'm sure Kathy loves
Extra, too. Go to medkaven.com/extra.
But it's not good when one dude in a
YouTube studio can start picking apart
these pieces when this is supposed to be
your summary of of macro and and and
whatever research for the week. Come on.
Not not cool. Okay, then Kathy Wood is
suggesting that our latest GDP print
shows that inventories are up. And this
is sort of her way of suggesting that.
See, inventories are up, deflation's
coming.
Okay, but if you actually read the
earnings calls of companies like Ford,
GM, and Ralph Lauren, guess what they
tell us? The reasons inventories are
appearing to be up is because more
inventories are in transit. It's taking
150 days for stuff to get from warehouse
to store uh than when it used to take 50
days. So, you have higher inventories,
but they're not on shelves. They're on
ships. [laughter]
It's a problem. Uh, in fact, Ford and GM
are talking about tight inventories, not
loose inventories. This is this is not
right. Uh, and this is really this
really flies into the face. this this
suggestion that we're seeing real demand
being quite sluggish which was her quote
flies in the face of companies like
Starbucks who are like we're raising
prices in January that's going to hit us
on the CPI print which is expected to be
7.3% coming up. Uh then we've got Panda
Express which is not even a public
company so you have to talk to the
employees to actually get this kind of
information which is the kind of stuff
that I do. Uh but anyway even Panda
Express just raised prices in January so
it's like a great that's also going to
hit us on the CPI print and it's because
demand is crazy. Now look, long run.
Yes, I agree. Innovative companies will
increase productivity. But then then now
Kathy, now I don't know if this was the
result of your soulsearching which you
were talking about, but Kathy, what the
heck? Kathy is saying that private mark
market valuations, so private equity
valuations have gone up over the last
year and that we've seen public values
drop 50%. And the private market double.
So she's like, okay, prices war
together, public markets have dropped
50%. and private markets have doubled.
And so now Kathy is suggesting I think
the private market, the more expensive
one, has it right. So we're going to
open a private market equity fund where
where we do like venture capital fund to
invest in private equity.
What? What? Come on, Kathy. You're
literally saying in your video, we think
private valuations have doubled and
public valuations have h haved. And so
now we're going to double down and go
invest more in private markets because
obviously they have it right. This is
the opposite of what Warren Buffett
tells you. You don't use pricing as your
indicator to tell you what's right or
wrong. Now you're chasing the top rather
than buying the dip more. Like you've
been selling more Tesla than anything
else. Now I know recently you did buy a
little bit of Tesla, but I got to put my
hands down because this is this does not
make any freaking sense at all.
Okay, look. And she talks about how
benchmarks are doing a disservice, how
great crypto is going to be in the
future, which I agree with. Okay, look,
I'm sorry. I have I don't think I've
ever been this rough uh to Kathy, and I
love her. I agree with her long term,
but this is short-term blindness. This
is just like buying Zoom as we're coming
out of the stay-at-home cycle. Even
though Zoom might be a great and
innovative company, come on, man. You
know, traders are in that thing up the
wazoo. And the reason it's fallen so
much is because they're trading out of
it.
That's all I got to say. Go check out
mechan.com/extra. Thanks so much for
watching. We'll see you in the next one.
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