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Hey everyone, me Kevin here. In this

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video, I have to say I am disappointed

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with Kathy Wood. [snorts] And I'm going

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to break down the most salient arguments

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that Kathy Wood made in her recent

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video. I'm going to break down with

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facts my belief as to why some of the

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things Kathy Wood is saying are just

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blatantly wrong. And I'm very

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disappointed because usually I agree

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with almost everything Kathy has to say.

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I think one of the biggest differences

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between myself and Kathy right now is

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that while first we totally agree that

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we're going to see the explosion of

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innovation between 2024 and 2030 that's

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the longer term right that six-year end

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of the decade period I completely agree

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genomics is in its infancy explosion of

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cash flow DNA sequencing energy storage

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adaptive robotics blockchain tech

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everything a convergence of innovation

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completely agree that these things are

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going to lead to deflation

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in broader markets in prices and massive

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profits for innovative companies.

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Completely agree. But it's the time

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between 2022 and 2024 that I'm nervous

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about and that I have some bones to pick

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with Kathy Wood that 2022 and 2023 are

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not what Kathy Wood is suggesting. Let's

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go through item by item her argument and

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then my response. So, first Kathy Wood

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argues that we're already seeing a

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significant amount of monetary

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tightening and that because we're

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already seeing monetary tightening,

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maybe markets are overdoing the

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sell-off, that maybe we're overly

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negative and overly fearful because

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we've already seen tightening and we

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don't need to worry about tightening

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anymore. Well, folks, let's actually

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look at the facts. So, Kathy Wood

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provides evidence that we are tightening

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money growth as her first evidence. And

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she suggests that, hey, look, the amount

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of money growth that we've seen used to

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be at 27% year-over-year during the

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pandemic, during the early part of the

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pandemic, we printed so much money.

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That's down to 13% recently. And if you

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zoom in even more, it's down to 8%

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growth in in the expansion of the money

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supply or M2 money supply, right? But

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unfortunately, I worry that Kathy is

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stuck in in here with a recency bias.

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Kathy's only looking here at how we've

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seen this decline of essentially money

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supply growth from 27% down to this 13

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or recently 8%. But Kathy isn't actually

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zooming out to realize that we are still

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expanding the money supply substantially

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more than the 3 to 4% that we usually do

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during normal times. This is not a sign

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of tightening. This sign of of a drop

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here is not tightening. This is a

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removal of a lot of accommodation while

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still providing accommodation. We are

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still printing money right now. We're

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still printing 30 to$45 billion per

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month right now with the Federal

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Reserve. We are still stimulating the

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economy and we'll talk about stimulus in

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just a moment because folks forget that

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we still have a flow of stimulus. Kathy

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Wood suggests a stimulus flow is over

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that the that now we're tightening

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because we've seen this decline. But

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that's not right. Just because you're

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comparing to a time in 2020 when we

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opened the floodgates of money and yeah,

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we had a lot of money printing and and

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creation then. And yes, today things are

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relatively less than they were then.

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Doesn't mean that that money just

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disappears. It doesn't work that way.

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Right now, this is where Kathy would

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then suggest that uh Jerome Powell

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because we're already tightening might

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end up just telegraphing uh and end up

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acting with a 50 basis point hike uh in

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in in the March meeting. Essentially

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saying, look, because we're already

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tightening, maybe we'll do a 50 basis

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point hike. So, a half percent hike on

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March 16th and then we'll just take a

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pause. We'll just stop for a moment

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because after all, it's an election year

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and maybe we don't want to end up

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rocking the boat during an election year

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because then Powell could be accused of

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potentially uh you know having a

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political bias, which we'll talk about

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the political bias aspect in just a

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moment. But here's here's the problem.

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Okay, Kathy Wood thinks that they're

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going to raise rates half a percent and

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then pause and not do more because we've

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tightened enough. But unfortunately,

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this is relatively the opposite of what

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Jerome Powell says. Now, even though

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Jerome Powell doesn't give us crystal

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clarity, Kathy Wood implies that he has

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given us clarity when the reality is if

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anything, he's giving us the opposite

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indications. This is where you have to

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make up your own mind. Jerome Powell

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says that we want to quote reduce the

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balance sheet in a predictable manner

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over time and we want it to be orderly

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and predictable. That is the opposite of

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implying one and done, right? But that's

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for the balance sheet. What about rates?

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Well, Kathy Wood is suggesting that uh

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we're going to have this half uh point

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half uh percentage point increase and

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then maybe the federal pause. But wait a

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minute, Jerome Powell was literally

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asked this question during the last

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Federal Reserve uh FOMC press

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conference. Jerome Powell was literally

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asked, "What about just frontloading

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interest rate increases and then

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pausing?" And that is literally what

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Kathy Wood is suggesting is going to

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happen. A front-loading of interest rate

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increases and then a pause. And Jerome

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Powell was literally asked this

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question. And this was Jerome Powell's

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response. And I'm going to leave the

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conclusion up to you. Does Jerome

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Powell's response agree with Kathy Wood

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or suggests something entirely

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different? This is for you to analyze.

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Okay. What about front-loading Jerome

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Powell? Jerome Powell responds with the

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following. This is a very different

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expansion with higher inflation and

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higher growth in a much stronger

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economy. These differences are likely to

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be reflected in our policy. We haven't

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determined any ceiling on rate

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increases. We want to move steadily away

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from accommodative economic effects.

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We'll be guided by the data and we'll

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try to communicate that as clearly as

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possible. But we know the economy is in

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a different place today. It is a much

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stronger economy that we have today with

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major differences from the past. We have

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much more inflation that we've seen in

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prior tightening cycles. So does Jerome

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Powell's response here align more with

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Kathy that we're going to do a oneand

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done in March and then go away or does

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it align more with a steady Eddie rate

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hike? We got to keep pushing and we got

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to walk the walk at the Fed to finally

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raise rates consistently, steadily, and

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be very clear with our intentions and

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actually follow through with them. I'm

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going to leave the conclusion to that up

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to you. I think it's pretty obvious

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which side my opinion lies on this one.

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And in case it's not, I think Kathy's

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wrong on this one. [laughter]

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Just anyway. Uh then Kathy suggests this

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argument and this is a very very

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commonly held belief uh that uh that

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might not be founded in fact. And there

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are a couple things that we really have

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to break apart here because I'm a little

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bit disappointed in Kathy in this. But

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first, I just have to mention to you

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very commonly held belief. Maybe Jerome

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Powell won't want to raise rates

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aggressively in 2022 because we have a

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midterm election year. Well, look, I

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don't know if this is just a correlation

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without causation aspect or whatever.

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But let's just look at some other

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election related time frames and compare

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them to non-election related time

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frames. Take a look at this. In 2016,

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which was a presidential election year,

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we had an interest rate liftoff. If

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Kathy Wood would is right, we we

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wouldn't do that during a presidential

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election year because that could be a

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sign of political bias. In 2018, we

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overly hiked rates during the midterm

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elections. In 2000, leading into the dot

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crash, we hiked rates numerous times,

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four to five times, leading rates to go

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from 5.25 to 6.5% in less than a year.

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In 1992, which was also a presidential

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election year, interest rates were

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actually suddenly cut 1%. And frankly,

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the most stable times at the Federal

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Reserve, seemed to be non-election years

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or periods of massive political issues.

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So, we seem to have a more calm Fed

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during politically calm periods and a

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more active Fed during politically

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active periods, which is kind of an

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opposite. I mean, consider this. Between

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2010 and 2016, the Fed was pretty quiet

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until Donald Trump happened on the scene

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in 2016. In 2021, the Fed was mostly

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quiet, talking about how inflation's

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transitory, and we've had, you know,

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essentially no elections, right? There

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haven't been elections other than the

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California recall in 2021. In well, and

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of course some other elections, but but

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minor ones, no nothing nationally. Uh

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between 1995 and 1998, no no massive

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elections here, uh the Federal Reserve

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changed virtually nothing. So I think

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the the suggestion that politics affects

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the Fed comes from the c cynicism that

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the Fed really cares more about politics

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than the actual economy and preserving

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the dollar as much as they can. And

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while I agree that the Fed can be

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influenced by politics like Biden

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potentially threatening Jerome Powell's

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job, which I believe happened, I do not

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see election years as actually providing

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causation to action or not at the

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Federal Reserve. I I personally think

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this is a little bit of a weak argument.

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uh and and I I can't say that it's

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definitely a definite aspect that there

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is political influence or that there is

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not. I'm sure there is some level of

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political influence, but I I don't think

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we can we can make bets with our money

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that the Fed's not going to do something

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just because of politics. His history

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doesn't say we can make that bet. Uh at

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least, you know, other than being a yolo

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and and a totally shot in the dark. A

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total shot in the dark. Now, uh then

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Kathy would suggest that our economy is

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is actually quite weak. And this I have

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a little bit of a problem with because

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you know I don't know about your economy

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Kathy, but GDP came in at 5.7% in

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January with an annualized rate of

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growth of over uh 6% for Q4. This is the

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largest gain that we've had since 1984.

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And I'm not sure if you've been paying

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attention to some of the earnings calls

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here, but Microsoft, Amazon, Apple,

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Starbucks, GM, Ford, Tesla, Ralph

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Lauren, UPS, Caterpillar, or Gibway

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Clark, just to name a few of the

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earnings reports that I've read, have

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literally all literally all of them said

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that they have had the highest levels of

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demand that they have ever seen and the

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highest pricing power that they have

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ever seen in recent decades. Now, the

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only complaint that they have is they're

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being held back by dynamics, dynamics

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like supply chains and labor costs. Now

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Kathy then so so I disagree that this is

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a slow economy. The fact that Kathy Wood

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is suggesting that our economy is

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slowing I I I I don't see that. I think

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our economy is actually very very very

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strong right now which I know some

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people argue then they're like well

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Kevin if the economy is so strong how

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could we go into a recession? Well a

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recession is only two negative GDP

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prints in a row right and we if we have

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that then all of a sudden you might see

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consumers turn inward and stop spending.

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That's when you could potentially see

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the deflation from excessive inventories

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and people stop spending. But right now

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we're we're not there, right? And we're

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talking on quarterto quarter basis here.

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Now Kathy then points to fiscal outlays

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peaking in 2022 and suggests that this

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is because she thinks that the child tax

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credit ended in December. She said

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thanks. We're going to clarify this. Uh

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and that there really haven't been any

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other forms of stimulus checks and and

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that the government isn't spending as

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much money on people as they did

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previously. No. While this is broadly

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true, Kathy missed again some facts

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here. And and this is where I'm thinking

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to myself, Kathy, come on. Y'all got

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hundreds of millions of dollars to hire

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researchers. You should know the answer

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to this. You should know this. I'm one

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dude sitting in this room here doing 99%

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of my own research. [laughter]

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Uh, no. Anyway, look. Okay, let's

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clarify this about the child tax credit.

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The child tax credit came in two

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batches. Batch number one did end in

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December. This is correct, Kathy. Batch

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number one ended in December. Batch

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number one was a monthly payment of $250

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to $300 per child depending on the age

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of the child for six months ending in

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December. The second batch will come as

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a refundable tax credit on individuals

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tax returns. Guess what? Not in

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December, in February, March, or April.

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This means that millions of households

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will actually be getting a very large

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stimulus check. The largest stimulus

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check that we've ever had. Remember, we

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had $1,400, $1,200, and $600. This means

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we're going to have the largest stimulus

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check ever actually coming in March,

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February, or April via a refundable tax

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credit on people's tax returns of $1,500

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to $1,800 per child. So, the largest

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stimulus check ever is actually still on

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its way. That's massive. This is likely

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to lead to another temporary surge of

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demand and reiterate companies pricing

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power. But Kathy made no mention of

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this. The fact that companies are

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suggesting they have so much pricing

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power and the fact that all of this this

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extra these extra little surges of of

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spending that people have from having

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higher bank balance sheets or or

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household balance sheets, higher bank uh

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higher net worths, whatever. The fact

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that Kathy is ignoring this confuses me

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a little bit. I'm I'm not sure why this

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would not be talked about. Of course,

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fiscal policy will calm down. I agree

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with this. And I believe we're actually

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going to set up for a really weird and

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rude awakening potentially in Q3 and Q4

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when at the same time as finally

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stimulus ends and the Fed stimulus ends

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because remember the Fed's still

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printing money today. We're still

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getting a massive stimulus check ahead

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of us. Still got growing inflation ahead

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of us, right? So we're going to go

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through more pain first while consumers

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are still going to feel strong. And then

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the concern is if inflation doesn't go

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down, then all of a sudden finally we

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see less consumer purchasing power, less

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consumer spending at the same potential

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time as we have less support on

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accommodative policies. Maybe the Fed

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has tightened too much and then this is

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where potentially we push into a

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recessionary period. Hopefully it is

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short and shallow. Uh but but that seems

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to be the trajectory we're heading on

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right now. So uh Fed's still printing

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money. Congress is still sending checks

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to people. Uh and and really little

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evidence here of a weak economy. Now

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Kathy does suggest that we've seen a

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decline of the annual work week of 6% or

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an annualized rate of about 6%. But

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makes no mention of the fact that this

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was a measure from January where it

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would make sense that we saw a little

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bit of a decline in people's work week

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because of omocron. Kathy only makes the

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mention of omocrron when making

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essentially an excuse for why wages were

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going up potentially because of

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omocrron. So that was weird. Why mention

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omocron as a reason why wages went up,

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but not mention omocron as a potential

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reason why the work week was lower in

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the last jobs report?

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I'm I'm I'm not jing with this. Usually

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I love Kathy Wood videos and and I'll

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tell you, I don't want to come across as

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harsh here, but I think when we just

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look at the facts and and we compare

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reality, then then we have we have some

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cause for concern here. I want to be the

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perma bull. I want to be the bull going,

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"Let's go. we're going to the moon on

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these innovation plays. I'm a little

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concerned. Anyway, uh then Kathy talks

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about how purchasing power is declining.

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Now, this I agree is a good argument.

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You know, we've had real wage growth

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negative over the last year. That means

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inflation's at 7% and wage growth has

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been 5% year-over-year. Uh that's a

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negative, right? People are losing

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purchasing power. The problem,

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unfortunately, is that Kathy is

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suggesting, see, people are losing

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purchasing power. This means our economy

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is weak right now. Wrong. All you have

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to do is actually look at the bank

14:47

earnings that are suggesting people have

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way more money in their uh checking

14:50

accounts than ever before. Yeah, the

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saving rates have declined, but they

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still have bigger balance sheets now,

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which means they could potentially still

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be spending very strongly for the next

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two to three quarters. Entirely

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possible, right? All you have to do is

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look at Visa or Mastercard to see people

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are spending money like crazy,

15:06

especially in retail stores. And so

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Kathy is suggesting that we're already

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seeing a slowdown when the reality is

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we're seeing only the potential of a

15:14

slowdown get baked in. And this is a

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problem because if Kathy thinks we're

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slowing down now, but really what we're

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setting up for is a slowdown at the end

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of the year, I think Kathy's going to

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have a disappointing year. I hope not.

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But I I think this is there's the lag

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time here is misaligned. You can't look

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at the jobs data and say, "Oh, see

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people's purchasing power is declining."

15:32

Without realizing that people have more

15:33

money and feel richer than ever before.

15:36

Again, look at bank earnings, JP Morgan,

15:37

Wells Fargo, City. They all tell you the

15:39

same thing and not realize that, wait a

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minute, okay, this means this decline in

15:44

p purchasing power isn't going to hit us

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for for two to three quarters

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potentially. And we should really

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consider that when we're investors

15:51

rather than considering, oh, no, no,

15:52

things are slowing down now when they're

15:54

not because that would imply that if

15:56

things are slowing down now that then

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maybe the Fed doesn't have to hike as

15:59

much. But that's not what we're actually

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seeing. That's not what the numbers are

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actually saying. Now, Kathy Wood does

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suggest that consumer sentiment has has

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started declining and then sites

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specifically how people are a little bit

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less inclined to purchase cars right

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now, but this is no surprise. You go to

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a dealership right now, they will price

16:18

a Prius that usually sells for $35,000,

16:21

which is already crazy. May as well buy

16:22

a Tesla. Uh they'll price a Prius at

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$35,000 and they'll literally throw on

16:25

their dealer markup $10,000 just because

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they can. Of course, the sentiment for

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buying durables has been declining. This

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is the same thing that the New York's

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Fed survey found that people have to

16:35

spend more money right now on essentials

16:37

uh than than on non-essentials. And the

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biggest sector getting hit is durables.

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Well, yeah, because pricing for durables

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has shot up. And we are going to see a

16:44

longer term shift where people finally

16:46

start saying, "Okay, that's it. These

16:48

prices are too high. We can't pay these

16:50

prices anymore." And when we see that

16:51

shift, that's maybe when the prices

16:53

start coming down. But it's too early to

16:55

actually see that shift, especially

16:56

since we're still seeing prices go up

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for durables. Okay? we're still seeing

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that inflation for pretty much

17:02

everything. Uh then Kathy talks about

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how sales at Amazon are only up 9% and

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how this is a very very low comp. And

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she says even coming out of the

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recession uh when when Amazon had really

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really strong comps, they did better

17:14

than 9% growth. But I think Kathy missed

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the point here that Amazon's comps were

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so so strong and we only had 9% growth

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because we didn't come out just of just

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a recession. We came out of a

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stay-at-home pandemic where of course

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spending on Amazon surged and of course

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the year-over-year comps are going to be

17:30

very very difficult. So this argument

17:32

that sales at Amazon only went up 9% is

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is is kind of laughable because again it

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it discards the fact that we just came

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out of a pandemic style recession not an

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'08 financial crisis. Very very mis

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misaligned here on this one in my

17:45

opinion Kathy. And then on top of that

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she says that this one really peeved me.

17:49

Okay this one really really peeved me.

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She suggests that Facebook saw weakness

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in the consumer sector and that's why

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Facebook is having problems. No, Kathy,

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Facebook did not say they're seeing

18:00

weakness in the consumer sector. I'll

18:03

tell you exactly what they said by

18:04

showing you literally what they said.

18:06

They said, "We're hearing from

18:09

advertisers that macroeconomic

18:11

challenges like inflation and supply

18:13

chain disruptions are impacting

18:16

advertiser budgets." That does not say

18:18

the consumer is spending less money. It

18:20

literally says supply chains and

18:22

inflation is hurting advertisers. That's

18:26

This is This is bad, Kathy. I'm

18:29

disappointed.

18:31

These It should not be that easy for one

18:34

person to discredit some of these

18:36

things. Again, I do not want to make

18:38

this. It's It's not like I have a fund

18:40

and I'm like, "Oh, buy my fund instead

18:42

of Cathy's fund." No, like there's

18:44

nothing nothing like that. The only

18:45

sponsor for this video is Extra. And I

18:47

love Extra. And I'm sure Kathy loves

18:48

Extra, too. Go to medkaven.com/extra.

18:51

But it's not good when one dude in a

18:54

YouTube studio can start picking apart

18:56

these pieces when this is supposed to be

18:59

your summary of of macro and and and

19:01

whatever research for the week. Come on.

19:04

Not not cool. Okay, then Kathy Wood is

19:06

suggesting that our latest GDP print

19:08

shows that inventories are up. And this

19:11

is sort of her way of suggesting that.

19:12

See, inventories are up, deflation's

19:14

coming.

19:16

Okay, but if you actually read the

19:18

earnings calls of companies like Ford,

19:19

GM, and Ralph Lauren, guess what they

19:21

tell us? The reasons inventories are

19:23

appearing to be up is because more

19:25

inventories are in transit. It's taking

19:28

150 days for stuff to get from warehouse

19:29

to store uh than when it used to take 50

19:32

days. So, you have higher inventories,

19:33

but they're not on shelves. They're on

19:35

ships. [laughter]

19:36

It's a problem. Uh, in fact, Ford and GM

19:38

are talking about tight inventories, not

19:40

loose inventories. This is this is not

19:42

right. Uh, and this is really this

19:44

really flies into the face. this this

19:45

suggestion that we're seeing real demand

19:47

being quite sluggish which was her quote

19:49

flies in the face of companies like

19:51

Starbucks who are like we're raising

19:52

prices in January that's going to hit us

19:54

on the CPI print which is expected to be

19:56

7.3% coming up. Uh then we've got Panda

19:58

Express which is not even a public

20:00

company so you have to talk to the

20:01

employees to actually get this kind of

20:02

information which is the kind of stuff

20:04

that I do. Uh but anyway even Panda

20:06

Express just raised prices in January so

20:09

it's like a great that's also going to

20:10

hit us on the CPI print and it's because

20:12

demand is crazy. Now look, long run.

20:14

Yes, I agree. Innovative companies will

20:16

increase productivity. But then then now

20:18

Kathy, now I don't know if this was the

20:20

result of your soulsearching which you

20:22

were talking about, but Kathy, what the

20:24

heck? Kathy is saying that private mark

20:26

market valuations, so private equity

20:28

valuations have gone up over the last

20:30

year and that we've seen public values

20:32

drop 50%. And the private market double.

20:36

So she's like, okay, prices war

20:38

together, public markets have dropped

20:40

50%. and private markets have doubled.

20:43

And so now Kathy is suggesting I think

20:46

the private market, the more expensive

20:47

one, has it right. So we're going to

20:49

open a private market equity fund where

20:52

where we do like venture capital fund to

20:54

invest in private equity.

20:57

What? What? Come on, Kathy. You're

21:00

literally saying in your video, we think

21:03

private valuations have doubled and

21:05

public valuations have h haved. And so

21:07

now we're going to double down and go

21:08

invest more in private markets because

21:10

obviously they have it right. This is

21:13

the opposite of what Warren Buffett

21:14

tells you. You don't use pricing as your

21:17

indicator to tell you what's right or

21:18

wrong. Now you're chasing the top rather

21:21

than buying the dip more. Like you've

21:23

been selling more Tesla than anything

21:24

else. Now I know recently you did buy a

21:26

little bit of Tesla, but I got to put my

21:28

hands down because this is this does not

21:30

make any freaking sense at all.

21:33

Okay, look. And she talks about how

21:35

benchmarks are doing a disservice, how

21:36

great crypto is going to be in the

21:38

future, which I agree with. Okay, look,

21:40

I'm sorry. I have I don't think I've

21:43

ever been this rough uh to Kathy, and I

21:46

love her. I agree with her long term,

21:49

but this is short-term blindness. This

21:51

is just like buying Zoom as we're coming

21:54

out of the stay-at-home cycle. Even

21:55

though Zoom might be a great and

21:56

innovative company, come on, man. You

21:59

know, traders are in that thing up the

22:01

wazoo. And the reason it's fallen so

22:03

much is because they're trading out of

22:05

it.

22:06

That's all I got to say. Go check out

22:08

mechan.com/extra. Thanks so much for

22:09

watching. We'll see you in the next one.

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