How Mikki Turned $200 Into $800K…

Do not gamble. Everybody wants to know

my number one piece of advice for

gambling. And the first is don't gamble.

I did a couple episodes for him and one

of them I won a million dollars for him

on camera. Truly my favorite game is

Pagout Poker. It's the most fun game

that you'll never lose at you also never

win.

Really? You just you just stay even

every time. So they call it the game for

blackout [music] drunks. There's a few

reasons. The first is if you ever make a

not best like arrangement of cards for

your own hand, the dealer has to correct

you so you win or it's a foul hand. So

you can literally play every single hand

before you even do anything. Just open

all your cards and say, "Dealer, what

should I do?" And it's the only game in

the casino. The dealer has [music] to

give you the right information every

time. So it's really hard to make a

mistake. Close to impossible.

And there's a real dealer. It's not like

a computer.

Real dealer. So you get seven cards and

the dealer gets seven cards. You have to

make a two card poker hand and a five

card poker hand. The only way to win is

your two card has to beat the dealer's

two card. Your five card has to [music]

beat the dealer's five card. But they

deal it where the dealer is face up. So

you're looking at the dealer's finished

[music] hand before you even look at

your cards. So you can see like if they

got two pair and you got two pair, you

can arrange it so you're guaranteed to

either win the two card or win the five

card and you purposely lose the other

one and it's just a push.

Hey, I'm going into the casino. I want

to win. What games do I avoid? What

games do I play?

Your goal is to win, right?

Yeah.

You avoid all the carnival games. You

know what that means?

Slots.

Yeah, avoid slots. Slots is for the only

roulette. Roulette with numbers.

about.

It's my boy Cody, by the way. He's in a

real bad.

Yeah, he's uh

he's big fan of yours. He's in a bad

spot right now and he's uh he's done a

lot of bad [ __ ] He spent time locked up

obviously and he's looking for a quick

come up. Not on you. I know he came in

aggressive like looking for a quick

[laughter] come up. He's not

No, no, no. I thought he would like I

see all the tats and [ __ ] so I thought

he's gang banging. So I was like double

ass outside, you know.

Oh no, don't assume that he's You're not

in any gangs, right? I'm a nice Jewish

boy.

Yeah, it's just fashion.

Isn't craps the game you have the most

probability of winning money from?

I am not knowledgeable enough in craps

to give you any real educated answers. I

am a recreational crafts player at best.

It's just fun, right? Like Jay-Z raps

about it, you know?

It's so much. You need three dealers

just for one shooter. I mean, it's

exciting.

Yeah.

So, you're in the same profession as me,

right?

What's that?

Uh hustling.

I'm a scammer, hustler. [laughter]

We must be different.

Oh, no. No. Just

No. He's a strategic um I guess I would

say genius. You are a hustler. You're

You're looking to hustle right now.

My bad, bro. No offense. I was just

trying to

He just came in a little bit. He's you

just flew in and he does the pod with

me. We grew up together. So

Oh, got you.

Mike couldn't make it. I know. I know

you wanted Mike here. Mike,

he had to fly to some karate event that

he's doing now. He's doing like a what's

it called? Commentary.

Yeah. But which, you know, should be me

out there doing that. But whatever. No

jealousy. Mike is funny at doing that

stuff. I'm more um educated in karate,

but whatever. It is what it is, you

know. Yeah, of course I am. [laughter]

than Mike. Anybody? You are more

educated in karate than Mike. Uh, no.

But no, he actually, all jokes aside,

Mike's got a good mainstream gig going

for himself. So, I'm happy he's down

there. And I pressed him. I was like,

"Yo, Mickey wanted you here, bro. This

is a once in a-lifetime opportunity."

You know why it was cool? Why I thought

it'd be so cool to have him? Besides

that, he was one of my very first like

famous friends. I actually had no idea

who he was. Like the first year of our

friendship,

we had been connected through someone

else in Vegas. And then um I did a

couple episodes for him and one of them

I won a million dollars for him on

camera on for his vlog.

You won him a million dollars?

Yeah. You didn't see the episode? Bro,

this is so stupid.

I only saw one with you when you lost

his 20k, right? Okay. So, this is so I

Bro, this is I remember I told you I

have a 2year long question. I've been

waiting to press on him.

He dodges this question every time.

Should we try to call him?

We should call him right now. Yeah.

All right. I guess we could call him

because if you waited two years, I don't

want you to ask me, you know. Uh, shoot

Mike a text and then I'll give you a

little backstory on Cody and his current

situation.

Um, yeah, he was we we've been hustling

our whole life, like you know, up and

down, up and down, selling weed, you

lose it all, you lose all your money,

jail, back up, build back up again, then

wiped out to zero again, then in the

negative, you borrowing weed from other

people, then that [ __ ] goes missing, now

you owe that person money. Just a bunch

of [ __ ] that we've been up and down over

the years.

Yeah. You know?

Yeah. I'm not a scammer. I just was

trying to like loosen up and joke.

[laughter] just just

cuz I I was Jeff was telling me a little

bit brief story about like how you like

are a mastermind in the casinos and I

was like [ __ ] if this guy's kicked out

of the casinos he could just use me as a

pawn and I'll give him 60% and I'll take

40%

you cuz you're banned from you're banned

from the casino so me so we do like a

6040

I do that already so I fund all my fans

gambling right now

yeah well I'm down you put me on the

list I'm looking for a job

[laughter]

I'm down to get burned to me as a mole

put me in there.

The way I I explained it to him when

like who was coming on the show today

when he first walked in. I was like,

"You've seen Casino, right?" And I was

like, "You know, Charlie M, you know,

when they popped this [ __ ] or they

[ __ ] popped the guy's eye out of his

head." I was like, "That's that's

basically who we got coming in. Just

like the modernday [ __ ] Soundcloud

rapper version of [laughter]

Joe Fesy with face stats."

Yeah. We are Are you banned from the

casinos on the East Coast, too? Uh, if

they're owned by Vegas casinos, yes. And

then a couple of the independent ones. I

am

Atlantic City. Atlantic City.

I had a [ __ ] cop with guns in my head

in in Atlantic City one time. That's a

whole another story, though.

I'll hit Pennsylvania. I'll hit

everywhere for you.

I played a little bit in PA. Uh,

Connecticut. I'm only allowed They have

two of them there, and one I'm allowed

in and one I'm not.

Well, I'm allowed in everything right

now.

For now,

until we [ __ ] get you banned

[laughter] next.

Look, I I don't care about being banned.

I'm used to getting banned. [laughter]

He says it in the sweetest way.

It doesn't It doesn't like I have no

Well, they like no emotional attachment

to it. Like, oh, if I'm banned, I'm

like, "Okay."

Yeah. Right now, I fund all my fans

gambling. I pay 100% of all losses and

we split the wins.

Damn. We got to get in on that.

I've been doing it. I've been doing it

for 4 months.

Damn.

Yo, we got another guy named Steven that

would come too, [laughter]

dude. Steven would crack so fast.

Yeah, we'll burn him. We'll burn him,

too. We'll burn him, too. And I'll And

I'll give him a percentage. I'll make

him work for me.

You got to be honest here. It It

couldn't have all been sunshine and

rainbows for you, you know, like you you

probably had some really really bad

nights.

Yeah, of course.

Was there any Was there ever a situation

where you were thinking about being one

of those people that are the statistics?

Yeah, of course, man. And I'm I try to

discourage gambling in every interview I

do in all my content. I'm I'll say it

again. Do not gamble. Everybody wants to

know my number one piece of advice for

gambling. And the first is don't gamble.

Okay?

You know, but if you're going to gamble,

despite me,

we're going to [ __ ] I [ __ ] play the

lot every day.

Yeah.

So, play buys lottery tickets at gas

stations.

At gas stations every day.

So, I can't stop people from gambling no

matter how much I say don't gamble.

Well, look, you know why I buy lot

tickets? Cuz like you got to be in it to

win it. [laughter]

Yeah. You know,

that's my mom's philosophy.

And and it's the hope of you buying that

ticket even though the odds are suckers.

Yeah. Even the odds are sucker. Well, I

was like somehow someway I win. I could

be like, "I won, [ __ ] See, cuz

I got the ticket."

Yeah.

Yeah.

You doubted me.

But unfortunately, that's like a one in

a billion shot or something, right?

It's probably more, you know? I mean, it

depends on the payout.

You can figure out by payouts what the

odds are pretty easily,

bro. I just like selling myself false

hope. I just put this [ __ ] idea of my

head like, "Yeah, I'm going to hit the

lottery."

It's not bad, though. That's not

terrible to do that cuz at least for for

that time from you buying that ticket

until you find out that your numbers are

not the right numbers, you probably feel

like you have a chance and life is not

all bad, you know, even that you have a

chance while you're waiting for the

numbers to be announced.

Yeah. Yeah.

Really?

Yeah. I actually know a guy that I used

to when [laughter] it's like a one in a

billion here. I'm hoping this hits a guy

on Staten Island that I used to work

with, the nicest kid in the world. like

when I did like he helped me get like a

catering job real quick

and uh Oh, there he is.

Oh [ __ ] I didn't think he was going to

pick up. I thought you were going to be

busy commentating when your mainstream

job.

Uh hey Olaf from Sudad uh Mex Mexico.

We got Mickey Mace here and he's going

to press you on some stuff.

We have some questions. We want to know

what happened to the million dollars

that went missing. Why did I never hear

about this?

Oh, the million didn't go missing. I

said how uh in one of your videos I won

a million dollars for you when it was

me, you, Logan, uh and Ryan.

Oh, it was Logan's money probably.

I'm not saying who's I don't know

nothing. I just know that I sat down and

I won 1.15 million is what I know.

Group them together when it comes to

money cuz the money only goes in one

guy's pocket. Mike Mike is out there in

Mexico.

I sat down. [laughter] I sat down. I did

a couple episodes on on Mike's vlog and

one of the particular episodes I sat

down with X amount of dollars and I left

with X plus 1.15 million.

Yep, that's accurate. I can confirm that

statement. I had

went to you, Mike. [laughter]

I think uh 9,000

9,000. Nice.

I think Yeah. And also and also keep in

mind uh zero dollars of it actually went

to Logan. He wasn't involved that

evening.

So who' it go to? It went to some like

random ecommer drop shipping kid or

something that had funded the entire

[ __ ] thing. Yeah, I know. So, I know

you want cool answers. It went to Sky

Bree, bro. It went to Sky. [laughter]

What do you want me to say, dude?

What do you want me to answer?

It [ __ ] It went to Lana Roads, bro.

She paid for tuberculosis surgery. I

don't [ __ ] know where it went, dude.

[ __ ] This is my question that I've

been trying [laughter] to ask you for

two years. And I'm not asking cuz I'm

pressing. I'm really trying to

understand. We did two videos. The first

video we lost 20K and you put me on the

thumbnail, my face and you said gambling

a million dollars with a Vegas high

roller. The second video exaggerates

exaggerates.

That's where we lost 20K. But then the

next video where we actually won a

million dollars, not only am I not in

the thumbnail, I'm not in the title and

Aiden Ross is the thumbnail.

Smart. [laughter]

Yeah, because Okay. So, so Mickey, I'll

give you a quick rundown on uh YouTube.

So, basically, when you do something

Jesus right now.

No, no, no. So basically when you do

something you can't you can't like do it

again right after. You know what I'm

saying? So like if I had just done the

same title and thumbnail right after it

just wouldn't have got rid of you.

[laughter]

That's not true.

I don't know man. We really won a

million. I thought

what the hell do you know? You're a

travel agent. What the hell do

[laughter] you know about that video? So

your average your average viewership

your average viewership is like a

million on the video that has my face in

the thumbnail. Yeah. Go look. I mean,

you got this analytics. Okay. Not

anymore. Okay. At the time was like a

million. At the time was like a million.

The one with my face from that same time

frame has 1.7. Almost double average

viewership. The one with Aiden's face is

the same as every other one, which was a

million. People are clicking cuz they

want to see me win a million dollars.

That's right.

So, you want what do you want me to do

right now? Do you want me to swap the

thumbnail out right now?

Give him a thumbnail face.

I think I deserved [laughter] it. I put

a lot of work in. By the way, when I won

you when I won that million dollars,

just so you know, I got banned from the

casino, my two most profitable casinos,

immediately after winning that million

for your c for your video.

Okay, here's what I'm going to do. I'm

going to swap I'm going to swap the

thumbnails and I'm going to put the

Aiden Ross thumbnail on the other video

and [laughter] I'm going to put the even

though it has even though it has nothing

to do with it and I'm putting the the

million-dollar one on the on the one

where you where you win.

We would greatly appreciate that, Mike.

And then our beef squashed over here.

Yeah. Yours isn't just beef is squashed.

All right. Well, when you get back over

here, we'll we'll all be rich. So, it

was nice knowing you, pal.

You guys doing some some some stuff?

Yeah. Uh well, he's explaining us,

giving us the rundown right now and how

um we could get a little skin in the

game, you know. Uh but we'll get back to

that interview. We just wanted to call

you up, say hi, and press you on that

and get that.

What is your favorite game? Not that

my true truly my favorite game is Pagout

Poker. Pagow. Face out. Pagout.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

that's actually my favorite game.

That's my mom's favorite game.

I believe it. [laughter]

Is that cuz the odds are the best?

It's the most fun game that you'll never

lose at you also never win.

Really? You just you just stay even

every time. So they call it the game for

blackout drunks.

There's a few reasons. The first is if

you ever make the not best like

arrangement of cards for your own hand,

the dealer has to correct you so you win

or it's a foul hand. So the So you can

literally play every single hand before

you even do anything. Just open all your

cards and say, "Dealer, what should I

do?" And it's the only game in a casino.

The dealer has to give you the right

information every time. It's

So it's really hard to make a mistake.

Close to impossible.

And there's a real dealer. It's not like

a computer.

Yeah. Real dealer. So you get seven

cards and the dealer gets seven cards.

You have to make a two-card poker hand

and a five card poker hand. The only way

to win is your two card has to beat the

dealer's two card. Your five card has to

beat the dealer's five card. But they

deal it where the dealer is face up. So

you're looking at the dealer's finished

hand before you even look at your cards.

So you can see like if they got two pair

and you got two pair, you can arrange it

so you're guaranteed to either win the

two card or win the five card and you

purposely lose the other one and it's

just a push.

I like that because I'm not a good

gambler and I come from a a family

history of not good gamblers. My dad

bets on horses and he goes nuts over $2

parlays and [ __ ] like that and he's

screaming and I just see myself slowly

becoming that. But I feel like, you

know, you learn, you take things from

your parents, you learn from them, and

and I [clears throat] see that him doing

these $2 bets is just him being involved

in it. It's just giving him a little

extra skin in the game to have fun and

enjoy watching these random horse races

in middle America, some [ __ ] random

[ __ ] [ __ ] horse with a

80-year-old jockey that's riding it.

It's just weird stuff. I like to play

games that are not that high risk. Like

I wish when I was playing blackjack I

could like somebody would just lie to me

like tell me that's $100 but it's really

only like $10 to me, you know?

I just like playing the game. But if

there was a way to explain to a couple

idiots like three idiots in a room that

are looking to get rich quick,

how do you beat Vegas and how much do

you need to go in there and actually

beat Vegas? And and what what should we

be looking for as the beat Vegas like

like us? We won. We can leave now. Well,

that's such a loaded question. So, the

first answer you need is what do you

consider beating Vegas?

Getting banned.

We go in there with getting you can get

[laughter] banned for you can get banned

as a losing gambler. You could have you

could just throw a card at a dealer be

like [laughter] [ __ ] you if you want.

Getting banned for winning so much.

Getting banned [clears throat] for

winning.

No, that Let's be realistic.

Okay.

I want to leave with 100 grand. I think

that's a hit that will change my life.

That'll change my life. How much

bankroll do I got to go in there to to

guarantee it?

Is 10 G's good enough?

No, no, no. To guarantee, bro, you can

walk in to the bicycle here in LA and

bet 100k a hand right now with me. I

think if you brought I mean, how many

hands would it take? You

No, I mean like of my own money to

bankroll it cuz what if I don't want to

go gamble 100,000 cuz you could also

risk losing.

You want to win 100 grand, right?

Yeah.

You can walk in with 100 grand, place

one bet, and if you win, you just made

100 grand. Go home.

What if I don't have 100 grand?

It's harder to win 100 grand then.

[laughter]

Okay. Okay. So, you got to go in there

with the amount of money that you're you

want to win. You got to expect to just

double up

sometimes more. So, you can lose that

first hand. So, if you only bring 100

grand, the first hand you bets 100

grand, you lose. You have zero dollars.

So, you need another hundred grand to

bet again. But if you lose that hand, so

realistically to win 100 grand, if

you're betting 100 grand a hand, you

bring a million dollars, I think you're

relatively even with zero concept of

gambling, if you play Bakarat, you're

almost guaranteed to make 100 grand.

Damn. [ __ ] So, you need a million

dollars to win. Guaranteed 100 grand.

It's such a loaded question.

Like it's that's not even like a real

answer. I made I made Listen, one time I

made 100 I made $800,000 off $200 one

time. It took me 3 days and it took me

uh three different casinos.

So like things are possible, but like

again it's such a loaded question. Like

you guys have how much knowledge do you

have? What are your betting limits? So

what city are you in?

Um I was I was expecting an answer like

this. You got 10,000, right? You go in

there, you get two $5,000 chips. So, we

hit the roulette table. We play two out

of three. So, we got uh we have like 75%

odds that we're going to hit that6%.

So, we have odds. The odds are in our

favor that we're going to at least

get like a third of our money already.

Like, not double it, but you'll get an

extra third of your money. Then, we take

that to blackjack, play a couple hands,

we get it up to 50 G's.

Then we go to Bakarat.

Yeah. I mean, that could be an option,

too, but there's so many things that

have to go right along the process.

That's where the gambling comes in.

But yeah, [snorts] some gamble, some

luck, some strategy. Sure. When I won

the 800k off $200, I had to keep

leveraging the casinos against each

other.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa. You won 800K off $200?

Yeah. Yeah. It took me 3 days.

What? How did How did this happen?

So, I mean, I've told the story before,

but the short of it is I I was go I was

I was living in Arya. I was living in

the Sky Suites, and I was walking to

Catch. After I ate dinner at Catch, on

the way back, we were walking through

the pits, right? And there was a random

$25 blackjack table with no players on

it. I had two black chips on me. It was

like for tipping and stuff.

I had them in my pocket and for randomly

it was empty table. I just sat down. I

bet $100. I had to split my first hand.

So both my $200, all my $200 was out

there.

What was it that you had to split?

I don't remember. I don't know what I

really don't remember what it was.

You split sevens?

Um I don't split sevens. No.

Aiden Ross splits threes on $25,000.

I think he's also a recreational

gambler, not a professional gambler.

Uh-huh.

Didn't Didn't AD Rash just get robbed by

21 Savage?

Yeah, that was like 3 weeks ago. That's

a [laughter] long time ago in internet

time. Yeah, that's like a year in

internet time. But it wasn't a robbery.

You hit on both hands.

So So I bet $100. I split. Now my two

and only two chips are out there. I won.

I got 400. I probably bet 400, one

again, and I took it up to 5K. After 5K,

I took a break, went upstairs, chilled,

came back later, bet that play, gambled

more blackjack with the 5K, run it up to

12. I took another break when I had the

12, came back, played later. The 12

turned to like 26. Later, I played

again. The 26 turned into, I forget what

it was, like 125,000. When I had the

125, I went to a different casino and I

said, "Hey, I have this much money. Can

we negotiate higher betting limits?"

They agreed. I had higher betting

limits. Played the 125, turned into 350.

I took the 350 to a third casino. I

said, "Now I have 350. Let's negotiate

even higher betting limits." They

agreed. And that 350 turned to 800.

Wow.

Wow.

Damn. So yeah, that's the story story I

was looking for [laughter]

with the 10 G's, you know.

So once you

were 200 I like I was asking with a way

bigger bank roll 10,000 we that's way

less possibilities we need to play out

in our favor.

Yeah. Well, not that many. But you're

right cuz if I lost any of my any of

that first session that took me to 5K,

if I had lost any substantial bets,

especially the first few where I'm all

in, then there would be no story to

tell. You know, that's the end of my

session. I'd lost.

Yeah. So, what gets you to stop at 800?

It was just time.

But what if you're just like a [ __ ] a

million's right there?

Um, that 800 was my biggest win at the

time. So, for me, that was like already

like the same as like a million. Like, I

was already like, this is the most I've

won. Like, this is we're celebrating.

And don't forget, it came from $200.

Like, I'm stoked, you know?

Yeah.

After that though, I realized how easy I

can get to a million. So, I started

buying in even more. And then I would

never leave for less than a million.

Damn, this is making me want to go to

How many years you been doing this?

I've been gambling my whole life, but

like this relevant part of my story

was probably at this at this point

probably about 5 years ago.

How many years were like you in the

casino actually doing this?

My whole

your whole life.

I've been gambling my whole life. I grew

up in New York City card rooms and

that's Monday through Thursday and on

the weekends I grew up in Atlantic City.

I used to work at the games. I would cut

hair at him. I

Yeah. And when I moved out here, I

worked at one and it was like nothing

I've ever seen before. Like those those

like underground poker games.

I try to explain. No, it's so hard to

even explain what what it is. It's

nothing you ever seen. Like

And my role there was like I was like a

like a [ __ ]

barber.

Yeah. [laughter]

But I was like a c It's weird. I felt

like I was like a prostitute, you know,

a little bit. Even though I was just

giving them haircuts, just giving guys

haircuts, they would pay me in chips

and all they had was $100 chips was the

lowest. So, so it was either like three,

four, $500. Paul Pierce would give me

like $500 a haircut. I don't even know

if I could say the names of the people

that would be at this, but it was like

Kevin Hart and all these [ __ ] big

shots and just girls everywhere in

lingerie and they have chefs and the

food is insane out there.

Micheline chefs and the finest women in

the world.

Mhm. Well, [clears throat] yeah.

And available for everything.

Yeah. Not necessarily my type, but your

type. Enhanced. Enhanced.

Yeah.

So, [laughter]

I went to one underground poker night,

lost $500 in [snorts] 30 minutes, and I

was like, never doing this again.

Yeah, cuz you got to buy in with big

money with those guys.