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are we gonna give some Credence to the
Bears and of course every time I give
the Bears some credit and show reports
from the Bears like what we're going to
talk about here whether it's Mike Wilson
from Morgan Stanley guess what position
he's thinking he's a bear man we're
gonna go look at what Bloomberg
economists are forecasting we're gonna
look at some of their models we'll look
at transitory Goldilocks and we'll look
at the vibe session we'll have a lot to
talk about but I have to first disclaim
any time I may make a bearish video
there are losers that of course we're
not going to mention by name but there
are these losers who like to take
screenshots of my channel and they're
like look at Kevin one day he's British
one day he's bearish and it's like
you're just another idiot who doesn't
watch to the end of the video so and
honestly not even through the end of the
video I mean I'm on honestly when I
cover the bearish stuff I'm like look
I'm covering this but obviously I'm a
bull and here's my take on it right like
it's like it's like I I don't know I
think sometimes people are just like
miserable in their own lives and they
have to find a reason to hate on someone
it's like I think I've been pretty damn
consistent about my my Nike Swoosh
thesis right I I don't want to make that
clear up front okay you don't even have
to make it to the end of the video I
think I'm very clear uh that while we
had that v-shaped recovery and by the
dip was great in in the covet pandemic
this is a probably an elongated Nike
Swoosh we're gonna have a lot of ups and
downs and plenty of by the dip
opportunity communities and no massive
Panic rush to to be all in uh you know I
I've been saying for a bit you know I
don't think 10 to 15 cash on the
sidelines and no margin is is a bad idea
uh you know so those are my takes but I
I don't know those are those are the
same people who who try to allege things
like oh well Kevin was selling while he
was telling you to buy that never
happened I like if I tell you I'm buying
that's what I'm doing I would never do
that first of all I'd get in trouble by
the FCC I'm SEC regulated folks okay
that would be terrible uh now I might
change my mind very quickly like I did
in January of 2020 and I get that like
in fairness it went fast okay it went
from me buying like January 18th to like
January 21st oh [ __ ]
like I finally put the pieces of the
puzzle together right uh which ended up
being the right call to flip right thank
God but uh but anyway so uh let's talk
about some of the the drama we've got
here so Bloomberg economics suggesting
that Powell's preferred recession
indicator skyrocketed in January now
from a bearish point of view that means
oh crap we're going into recession from
a bullish point of view that means hell
yeah Jerome Powell's preferred measure
went dirty that means he's gonna spank
us less hard
uh anyway so then you've got uh the the
indicators so what they are basically is
you have three potential yield curves to
look at you have the twos and tens which
is the two year ten year you've got the
three and ten which is the not the three
year okay it's the three month ten year
uh and then you have the three month 18
month yield Curve Model and Powell's
preferred is the three month 18 month
model I'll throw that up on screen right
here and I'll keep myself off of it so
you can actually see it so I'm not
blocking it so and this this chart is
honestly a garbage chart uh someone sent
this to me and I'm like dude this is
such a complicated looking chart but
anyway on the far right you can
basically see Powell's line goes up okay
it's the deepest inverted yield curve
we've seen with the Powell preferred
indicator which suggests recession
coming right the two is ten is pretty
high the 310 obviously pretty inverted
as well but nowhere near as bad as as
Powell's as powie good old powie then
you've got the Bloomberg economics
12-month recession model and it's
basically at a hundred percent which the
last time it was at 100 was in 2019
which obviously then we got the coveted
pandemic it was at a hundred percent in
2006 and seven which obviously we got
the Great Recession uh it was at a
hundred percent in the.com Era which
obviously we that that all com bubble
but we did have a false indicator in
1998 where you actually had uh the
indicators suggest uh we had a hundred
percent probability of going into a
recession within the next 12 months and
it was actually wrong we didn't end up
going into a recession within the next
12 months we ended up going into nothing
we were we were fine in 1999 and it
really wasn't until a year later in 20
2000 in 2000 that we started seeing uh
oh it looks like we might be heading
into a recession and then sure enough we
did uh by uh like 2000 uh 2001 2003 uh
obviously recessionary era so it shows
you that these these indicator there's
are not perfect right they have false
starts and that's okay and that's to be
expected that these indicators have
false starts but I think one of the
things that we also have to be very
clear about when we look at these models
is that they're not necessarily telling
us we're going to hell right like think
think about that for a moment in fact
one of my by the way and this is sort of
a tangent one of my favorite Warren
Buffett quotes is tell them to go to
hell tomorrow uh very good tool by the
way for uh if you're ever in business uh
tell them to go to hell tomorrow like
relax your expectations but uh anyway
this uh the idea uh that oh we're
definitely going to hit a recession okay
fine so the models say we're definitely
going to hit a recession how bad is the
recession going to be oh well I don't
know well sure the models don't really
tell you how bad it's going to be now
you can try to suggest when or or how
bad the models are going to be and the
way you do that is you kind of look at
okay well if uh if we're going to see a
recession uh how much is the Federal
Reserve going to have to cut and if you
line that up on the charts right now the
fed's looking at potentially cutting in
the event of recession by 5.25 percent
because that's how deep the inverted
yield curve is and if you stack that up
with a linear regression model to what's
historically happened that's what you
get you get you know basically 525 basis
points worth of cuts which is wild but
maybe that's exactly what we end up
getting over the next few years so it
could end up playing out but it could
also be that the recession we see is
like oh no we're down point one percent
in GDP like okay that's pretty benign
right and that's actually what some of
the high frequency signals are showing
us as well uh this is sort of like some
of the the uh mortgage pre-approvals
you're actually seeing an increase
suggesting okay maybe people are still
resilient to buy which is really
fascinating you're seeing uh sure
manufacturing and Industrial is losing
steam but you're seeing Services
consumption still pretty dang resilient
you look at the cruise lines you look at
the airlines like people are still
spending you've got American Express
saying people are spending through the
recession or whatever it may be consumer
demand generally stable I like this one
bookings at open table as of January are
actually up at the start of 2023 now
it's possible that if they're comparing
to 2022 you had you have to remember you
had Omicron in 2022 and nobody was going
out to restaurants in 2022 that was
pretty crazy uh but uh then you've got
uh you know consumers still traveling
that's a big deal uh the beige book
shows the same thing it's not just
earnings but it's the Federal Reserves
beige books showing that consumers are
still traveling and yeah you've got
leveling off of of job listings and
potentially job openings but the jolt
suggested job openings actually opened
indeed.com is telling us they're
leveling off but joltz is saying oh
they're still going up at the same time
as you you've got uh you know more of
this consumer travel demand you actually
have the number of oil rigs down own 4.5
percent since December at the same time
as the Chinese reopening potentially
pushing oil demand up and you've got a
lot of pessimisms that pessimism levels
at households like consumer and business
sentiment is pretty a pretty poor uh the
gap between where consumers feel right
now and what they expect for the future
is huge it's the largest that we've seen
since the 2008 recession and then of
course you got people like well Morgan
Stanley's Mike Wilson basically saying
look all of this combined is going to
turn into a very ugly earnings season
he's of course our staunch bear he says
look sure we're seeing rates go higher
but the Market's just not pricing in
what higher for longer actually means
and what's going to happen is when those
bad earnings come in markets are going
to sell off and you're going to see
broad declines on the indices because
right now Morgan Stanley's Mike Wilson
says look prices are just straight up
disconnected from reality and maybe
tomorrow's Pi report will end up being a
reality check he calls it of course this
is also leading to a lot of calls that
hey we're going to end up going higher
for longer and by going higher for
longer the Market's basically not
pricing in that EPS is going to get
screwed now that's That's Mike Wilson
he's the bear at Morgan Stanley
interestingly though not everyone at
Morgan Stanley actually agrees with uh
Mike Wilson so what do you have over
here uh the no Landing let's talk about
that right after I mention that I need
to take a sip of coffee bet you weren't
expecting that one
um
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chief Economist of Morgan Stanley in the
year ahead Outlook we present our
expectation for a soft planning this
year with a forecast of just 0.3 percent
real GDP on a Q4 basis we hardly call
for a stellar growth but four saw a
positive outcome nonetheless we stood
well beyond the more pessimistic
consensus at the time economists and
markets have moved in our Direction well
except for Mike Wilson
uh but basically they're they're saying
look our conversations suggests the
phrase isn't clearly defined it tends to
gloss over policy implications but seems
to most closely resemble a soft Landing
in English Morgan Stanley other than
Mike Wilson think we can get a soft
Landing which is really interesting
because Morgan Stanley is kind of
playing both sides here it's kind of
like oh we're Bulls but we also have a
bear at our company so like if the bear
ends up being right we could put him on
a pedestal and if our chief Economist
ends up being right we could put him on
a pedestal kind of interesting I don't
have that luxury because I think I'm
very transparent and I'm very like clear
about my position I can't play Both
Sides unless of course you only read the
titles but if you only read the titles
you're a [ __ ] I I think the true people
who are here to learn watch the videos
and they watch the majority of the
videos uh and through them and I
hopefully you pick up a lot of info and
value that's my goal right provide more
value and whatever business you're in if
you want to make more money remember the
number one rule of thumb is provide more
value do not be a yomi ayomi is the kind
of person that's like well you you owe
me more pain maybe if you pay me more
money I'll work harder uh no you're
fired if you're a yomi you're an idiot
anyway and that's not how capitalism
Works work hard then you shall receive
the harder you work the luckier you get
hard Landing scenario so they suggest
that a hard land ending is basically
anything with less than zero percent GDP
now I think that's really interesting
they're basically saying anything hard
is a recession
anything and that they also call this
potentially the FED over tightening
anything soft they actually I think is
just slow GDP growth right below GDP
Trend growth which would be zero to one
point five percent uh Trend growth uh
resilient growth they think is this no
Landing scenario where the plane just
doesn't come in for the landing right
and what is the uh no Landing scenario
well the no Landing scenario is the
economy doesn't slow down but inflation
goes back to Target this is a version of
the world where a potential is simply
higher than anyone thought I include
this scenario however it's unlikely that
it plays out this year but they're
including it to cover a full range of
possibilities so this is really
interesting so the Morgan Stanley is
basically saying look we're not going to
get a like a no Landing scenario where
we're a recession or GDP growth is over
1.5 I mean I kind of agree and I don't
think
that the economy is going to grow at
more than 1.5 percent I I my base case
is the soft Landing right or like is is
that basically we're just hitting even
if we have no growth it's still not
necessarily going to be a recession or
if it's a recession it's gonna be like
0.1 like it's gonna be the most benign
recession ever uh I really don't see
this as like an 08 we don't have the
massive structural disasters that we
have and and it's still possible even
though the word is really disgusting it
is still possible that inflation could
prove to be transitory and that's what
I'm seeing in sort of leading indicators
from earning calls from earnings calls
from companies now that doesn't mean we
won't have a bad CPI read tomorrow
that's sort of a very short-term uh
Outlook uh but but for the next year I
think the trend is very clear down
uh so uh balance of the data coming out
is starting to be mixed uh GDP and
Manufacturing data so far are lining up
with potentially flat growth uh flat GDP
growth for the year which I I don't
think flat GDP growth is really flat I
think it means no growth it means zero
uh consumer or a rather uh conference
boards leading economic indicators Lei
uh suggesting definitely a recession
within the next 12 months that's very
similar to what Bloomberg says but then
again it's like like okay well how bad
is it going to be you know is this just
statistical noise Morgan Stanley talks
about these indicators potentially just
being noise it's like okay well sure
we've got a really inverted yield curve
but how bad is it going to be now this
was interesting because Credit Suisse
actually started talking about PP
uh they talk about this idea that even
without a full blown recession we can
expect corporate earnings to suffer this
is the Mike Wilson argument right but
this is at Credit Suisse as much as you
can trust them for what it's worth but
anyway they think that earnings will
fall significantly below current
consensus expectations they think that
waning growth waning here it is pricing
power and increased interest rates
provide an unfavorable mix of factors I
actually agree with this I think broadly
many of the companies in our indices
especially the S P 500 are going to see
pricing power evaporate and that's
mostly because companies are going to
either have to cut prices or keep prices
stable in the face of still Embers of
inflation which basically means Rising
costs which means that these companies
take it in the uh in the margin
basically so their margin absorbs some
of the pain uh and and that is generally
aligned with a lack of pricing power now
don't get me wrong I think every company
is going to lack pricing power relative
to 2021 no company is going to have the
same PP they had in 2021. you know they
all got a little bit older their PP just
doesn't function as well anymore now
that they're all a little bit older but
there are still some PPS that are bigger
and stronger than other PPS uh so and I
think the goal is to find the largest PP
in in a tough time anyway so a big fan
of pricing power and finding that now
should wage growth remain elevated as PP
wanes and get smaller you would end up
having another drag on earnings so this
is again suggesting if you're looking
for companies again your goal is to try
to find uh the biggest PP that's a
Credit Suisse piece I'm actually really
impressed they started talking about PP
because I think it's very very important
it's actually the first piece I've
really seen talk about PP uh in in this
cycle I'm pretty impressed by that uh
now this is interesting they called a
Goldilocks scenario potentially
transitory here's just another Credit
Suisse piece
uh they do not expect a sustained upturn
in some industrial production numbers
and uh even though we're we we've seen a
contraction we're expecting a rebound
they just don't see that rebound to be
very large now what is interesting is
they think the impact of covet zero
going away in China will be relatively
limited uh on uh inflationary impacts
that maybe there'll be some inflationary
push through to European industry like
Industries like German manufacturing and
Autos but otherwise they say that so
eurokovic was not a major impediment to
Chinese industrial activity I kind of
scratched my head a little bit about
that because I do feel like a lot of
factories were suffering because of zero
covet uh and sort of the lockdowns but
they really think the biggest move up is
Services which is true I mean that's
what we're seeing so far in the Boom in
China is travel and entertainment much
like what's booming obviously over here
as well and they think there are clear
risks to see oil over 90 dollars a
barrel but then again at the beginning
of January everybody's like oh oil's
gonna go to uh a hundred dollars a
barrel and it just like never ended up
happening who knows it could still
happen and now I'm starting to see their
estimates fall though business surveys
fall in uh to levels consistent with a
severe slump and that maybe momentum
will stabilize the Credit Suisse here
warning and this aligns with sort of
their their small PP argument smaller
pricing power argument they expect that
consumer strength will fade in the
months ahead along with retail sales
trending sideways biggest risks being
furniture and Appliance demand as home
sales continue to deteriorate as well as
business fixed investment likely
struggling and we do not expect a a
sharp contraction though so again this
is really in line with this idea of like
a shallow kind of recession right
inventory is still pretty high you saw
the same complaint about inventory still
being high at companies like Energizer
batteries uh this is hitting companies
like Target and Walmart and so on uh
however you're still under stocked in
autos and the argument is that you might
be seeing uh I hate using this word but
potentially transitory bump in inflation
for Autos uh potentially because of the
under stocking that we're seeing uh they
do expect that household consumption in
China will improve this year but again
likely in Services structural headwinds
will remain and goods demand will remain
below pandem pre-pandemic levels a part
of this is because of an increase in
precautionary savings by individuals
because of wealth lost thanks to lower
property prices remember their real
estate a disaster was somewhere in the
effect of uh you know 35 to 40 percent
price decline so you've got some major
hits over there from China so Emerging
Markets X China generally people are
pretty bullish however inflation is
still present sent in Emerging Markets
so you have to kind of be careful in
Latin America they think you're you're
still seeing supply side issues uh
that'll really hurt the pace of
disinflation and I see that when I
analyze Embraer I mean they're still
suffering man with with uh increasing in
prices and supply chain shortages and
stuff uh which in the short term does
give them uh some more pricing power for
for selling Jets but uh yeah you know
that's uh that's oh yeah oh yeah and
then there's this idea of a Vibe session
okay I'm gonna be very brief about that
the idea of a Vibe session is that
basically uh everybody feels like we're
going into a recession but maybe we
don't actually end up hitting a
recession that's sort of consistent with
the idea of a soft landing and I thought
it was really an interesting phrase like
really A vibe session that sounds pretty
lame but okay I'll address it so uh
you've got you've got really in my
opinion if you kind of look at this like
all this sort of more bearish analysis
anything pointing to a recession is kind
of like okay yeah earnings are gonna go
down but how much and and it's really
like okay so we might go into recession
but how much and it's kind of like
nominally like it doesn't really seem
like people are really like that worried
that this is gonna be uh fall off the
cliff style recession although who knows
uh and I think tomorrow's CPI will give
us a little bit of uh of uh of uh an
indicator yeah take it in the margin man
take it to the margin
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