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All right. So, while we talk about this

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Harvard or while they talk about this

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Harvard thing, let's do a quick note on

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JD Vance and Trump, what they're saying

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about the Federal Reserve right now. Uh

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JD Vance is apparently arguing that

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quote, "The refusal by the Fed to cut

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rates is monetary malpractice."

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On top of that, on Truth Social, Donald

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Trump just wrote, "Cpi just out, great

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numbers. Fed should lower one full

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point. Would pay much less interest on

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debt coming due." so important. I think

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this is where it's worth just taking a

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moment to talk about the Federal

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Reserve, what's likely and what the

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market is pricing in. Let's just go

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ahead and start by talking about uh what

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what the implications of this are,

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what's likely and just give you a bottom

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line on that. Uh and then I'll also give

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you market pricing uh so that way we can

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kind of see how market pricing has moved

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and what markets are pricing it. So,

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first things first, remember that the

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president and the vice president are of

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course going to always advocate for

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lower rates because it's popular. It is

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exactly what consumers want to hear.

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It's what we want to hear as small

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business owners or medium business

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owners or employees of large businesses.

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Everybody wants lower rates. Lower rates

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on your cars, lower rates for home

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mortgages. Obvious. So, it's a popular

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thing to say. The question is, is this

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going to have any influence on the

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Federal Reserve? And the answer to that

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is likely a big fat no. because the

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Federal Reserve, at least as they say,

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you know, whether or not we believe it

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comes with an asterisk, but they say

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they're going to act apolitically. Now,

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what is that actually going to mean in

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this environment? Well, it likely means

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that we're going to see a delay in when

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the Federal Reserve is going to do

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anything. I think the absolute earliest,

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and this is my opinion, that we see the

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Fed do anything is September. And the

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reason for that is when we get into

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September, the meeting's towards the end

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of the month, we're going to have

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inflationary data for not only what we

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just got, May, but we'll also have June,

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July, and August. We will literally have

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three more full months of inflation

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data. And if we reiterate the trend

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we're on right now, yes, in my opinion,

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we could set up for either a 25 or 50

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basis point cut in September. We might

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actually get a full cut, full 1% cut

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like Trump is clamoring for by the end

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of the year if we also by September

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start seeing a weakening jobs market.

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We're going to have June, July, and

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August data, another 3 4 months of data

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where tariffs are in place, especially

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at this higher level that is now an

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agreement between China and the United

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States, 55% on China, 10% on the US from

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China. These these are bigger levels

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than we've had to deal with before.

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substantial uh it's basically a doubling

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on on tariffs that we've had previously

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on China. So toys, furniture, apparel,

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these are all going to show up in margin

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which could show up in you know weaker

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pricing uh at at corporations and again

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therefore layoffs. And so the Fed will

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look at that data but beyond this we'll

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also get through a very weird

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environment in markets where you have to

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get through what's called the

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seasonality of unemployment claims.

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Historically, if you look at

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unemployment claims in the summer, I

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personally think teachers have something

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to do with it. You know, teachers sort

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of are not working in the summer, but

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but not entirely sure on that one. Uh

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but there's some seasonal spike you see

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in unemployment claims uh in the summer,

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and they start coming down in uh the end

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of July, early August. The Fed will

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basically have a full six week of six

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weeks of unemployment claims data by the

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time of their September meeting. This is

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why September is really setting up to be

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such a big meeting. Now, let's see what

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the market is pricing in. The market is

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pricing in a 0% chance of a rate cut for

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June 18th. A 16.5% chance of a rate cut

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for July 30th. I think that's highly

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unlikely because you're literally one

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week away from new jobs and inflation

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data uh in August for July. And then you

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have the September 17th meeting. Markets

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are only pricing in a 60.4% chance of a

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cut right now. I actually think there's

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even a chance of a double cut in

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September should we start seeing even

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just a little bit more weakening in the

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labor market. And remember the video

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that I did on the Beaver Ridge curve,

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which I highly encourage you you would

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take a look at. I think I called it the

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uh the great Donald Trump economic reset

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or something like that. I'll pull up the

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title for you in a moment, but I

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encourage you to watch it. It was one of

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those blackboard videos where I go

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through a lot of the data uh in in the

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studio. Uh it is quote the complete

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economic great reset Trump and the Fed.

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And basically what I do is I talk about

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this economic concept known as the

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Beaver Ridge curve or the beaver ridge

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curve is so abnormal right now

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historically that the only thing that

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needs to change. The only single thing

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that needs to change to normalize the

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curve is a slight uptick in layoffs. And

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a slight uptick in layoffs is going to

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rapidly move that curve into its normal

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environment. And that normal environment

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would mean an unemployment rate that

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skyrockets over 5 and a half to 6%. Uh

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and as we usually see, if we get some a

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move like that, we might end up with a

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recessionary move after that, especially

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thanks to artificial intelligence and

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otherwise where you get longerterm

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unemployed, you know, up over 10% or

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whatever. Now, in that video, there were

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some comments where people were saying,

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"Oh, but Kevin, the unemployment rate is

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only low because they're not counting

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the unemployed workers, all the

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unemployed workers." Yes, they are. they

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are just counted in a different place.

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Once you're unemployed for more than 6

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months, you get counted in the 27 weeks

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unemployed category. It is something

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that we pay attention to as well. And

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yes, the 27we unemployed category is

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rising. And yes, historically, every

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time it starts rising, it's a

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recessionary signal. Does that mean

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we're definitely going into a recession?

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No. But if we get anything that is a

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slight uptick in layoffs, a slight

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uptick in claims, I think we're setting

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up for potentially a double cut in

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September, and that money printer is

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going to come on very rapidly. Now, is

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that going to be soon enough to stop a

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recession? Nobody knows. It could

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already be too late. Maybe it'll be

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early enough. However, and this is why I

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talked about a few days ago, this idea

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that maybe Scott Bessant could end up

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becoming the Fed chair, I actually think

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is broadly bullish. Now, people left me

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comments. You know, Besson's testifying

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right now. People left me comments and

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they're like, "Oh, but but Kevin, you

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know, the Fed chair is just one of the

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committee's voting members, right?" But

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if you minimize the importance of the

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Fed chair in a manner of saying, well,

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he's just one of the voters on the

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board, the FOMC,

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then you misunderstand how the power

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structure of the Federal Reserve works.

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The chairperson is the person who talks

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to each of the individual members

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individually and can shape the other

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person and sort of lobby them to join in

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their vision of the direction of macro.

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And if you get somebody like Besset who

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wants to look forward and say, "Hey, we

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need to prevent this potential recession

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from coming." Whereas Powell's more of a

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wait for the data to let us know we're

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in recession, which is somewhat what it

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feels like we have right now. Then you

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get someone who is more dovish who

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drives the Fed towards more rate cuts

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earlier. That comes with the risk of

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more inflation. But I personally don't

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think we have an environment that risks

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more inflation. Now, in response to

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that, I get comments of people going,

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"But Kevin, prices are so much higher."

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Again, it's very important that we don't

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confuse the nominal level of prices,

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which of course are higher than 2019,

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with what an inflation rate is and what

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the Federal Reserve's mandate is. The

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Federal Reserve's mandate is not to have

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low prices. The federal mandate is to

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keep prices stable. That could mean

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stable high, unfortunately. Just sort of

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the way it functions. Uh anyway, going

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towards the rest of the year, we have

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about a 49% chance. Uh well, it looks

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like we're pricing in I'll read it this

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way. We're pricing in 1.26 cuts by

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October 29th. We're pricing in about

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1.92 cuts. So, round it to two cuts by

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the end of the year. I actually think

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it's likely that we might be closer to

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four cuts by the end of the year if some

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of that data starts turning around.

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We'll see. Uh and at the moment at least

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when we look at the treasur market uh

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based on this inflation data we got this

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morning 10 years still sitting around

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4.43. So it's still you know a heavy

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weight for small and medium-sized

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businesses but that 102 spread is still

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only at 48 and really you're not at

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shock territory unless that's rising

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above 50 like what we saw in the dotcom

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bubble and the great recession. Uh and

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we're we're just not seeing that yet.

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So, in other words, things are still

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good until they start turning. Couple

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follow-up comments here that I just see

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in the comments. Does the bond market

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agree? Again, what I read you out with

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these odds of Fed rate cuts are based on

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Treasury market curves. Okay, so this is

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a distillation of the implied overnight

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rates from the Fed based on Fed futures

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trading. So, yes, the bond market does

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cater to that. Somebody says, "If

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inflation isn't high, why are stores

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more empty than the 2020 lockdowns?"

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These are totally unrelated.

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Store shelves, first of all, being empty

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could be your perception. That doesn't

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necessarily mean they're a reality

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because uh store shelves are often based

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on uh the levels of inventory stock up

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or potentially the lack of stock up.

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They could be based on supply chain

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modifications because of tariffs. If we

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look at the Bank of America supply chain

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indices, we're actually pretty dang

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loose on supply chains. So there could

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just be particular delays related to

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shipments coming from China thanks to

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the liberation month where we had

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substantial delays of shipments. But

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that that is really unrelated from

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inflation of why shelves are empty. It

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could be supply chain related. Now can

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limited supply chains for a long period

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of time create inflation? Yes. That's

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because eventually stores if you have

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empty shelves for too long you could see

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prices increase for what's left. But

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that assumes that demand is also rising

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and and will match those prices. Demand

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in today's environment is not moving up

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to match how prices how companies would

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like to price. That's why we talk about

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corporates having lower pricing power.

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So

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let's see here. Uh replacing power could

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easily lead to Arthur Burns. Um

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yes. Yes, you are right about that. What

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you're referring to is basically this

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idea that if you replace Powell with

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Bessant, you could end up getting a

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1970s repeat where you get somebody

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who's too reactive to the news. I agree

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with that. I think Powell is doing

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everything in his power to avoid being

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an Arthur Burns for a 1970s. We don't

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want a 1970s. Powell respects Vulkar

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much more as any person who studies

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monetary policy agrees. Paul Vulkar

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gained much more respect and credibility

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than Arthur Burns did.

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representative is basically the largest

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failure of of uh you know monetary

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policy. So this is uh this is this this

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is pretty straightforward here. Uh

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somebody who says quit blocking for

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Trump Kevin I roll emoji. Well, I think

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if what you're saying is my opinion that

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interest rates are going to come down by

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at least a percent because we're

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trending towards a recession uh in the

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labor market is somehow, you know, uh

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hitting the pavement for Trump, then

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then I I I think you're trying to look

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for something that doesn't exist. I'm

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looking at this from a monetary policy

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and economic point of view. I think

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that, you know, Powell is to some extent

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right to avoid wanting to be an Arthur

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Burns and waiting for the data. I think,

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and this is my opinion, that inflation

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will stay low and that Powell will be

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late because of that strategy. That

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doesn't necessarily because that aligns

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with sort of what Trump's saying and

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calling Powell Mr. too late doesn't mean

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that I'm shilling for Trump. It just

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means that my opinion is we should be

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cutting sooner. But I understand why

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they can't because they want to be data

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dependent to avoid the 1970s. My POV

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would be more of a gamble because I

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would be taking the bet that we're not

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going to see inflation and you want to

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cut ahead to minimize the recession.

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That's different, right? I'm taking an

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opinion. Donald uh Powell is waiting for

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the fact and that's understandable and I

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respect that and I understand the

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Federal Reserve doing that and that's

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why I'm trying to show you this

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difference between my opinion, what the

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Fed is doing and then of course why

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Trump says what he does because it's

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popular.

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Anyway, hopefully that helps. uh we're

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forgetting about the layoffs announced

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in March, government cutting 770K which

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uh right right so this is a this is

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another thing that is worth paying

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attention to is yes you know coming into

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September you start getting some of

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those uh you know voluntary layoffs at

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the government where you got basically

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you know through September to go find

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another job and get paid through

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September even if you quit your job

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that's true but those numbers won't

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actually show up in our employment data

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unemployment data well they could start

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showing up earlier but it's likely you

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won't actually see those until October.

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