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So we’re betting on everything now?

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Prediction markets.

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They're websites that for some reason exist.

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When you go to one, you'll find an infinite scroll of real world events

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and their possible outcomes on which you can bet your hard earned inheritance.

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Events like who will Donald Trump talk to in February?

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Logan Paul first edition charizard sale price?

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Will Jesus Christ return before 2027?

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And when the U.S. will strike Iran.

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But to this unholy list of questions, I'd like to add one of my own.

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Why is this allowed?

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In the rapidly

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evolving genus of prediction markets, two species stand above them all.

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Polymarket and Kalshi.

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These companies are strikingly similar beasts who together

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are largely responsible for the recent prediction markets boom.

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In just the last year, they've partnered with news agencies and sports leagues,

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launched massive ad campaigns and each reached valuations of about $10

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billion while processing over $1 billion from users every week.

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Folks it's prediction markets world and we're living in it.

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Prediction markets are the future

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Predictions markets

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very hot right now

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Google announcing it will integrate

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Kalshi’s data into their search results.

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The NHL just became the first major US pro league

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to strike licensing deals

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with prediction market platforms

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an every day person could

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could liquidate their 401k and bet it on how many times the

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Chipotle CEO is gonna say carne asada in their earnings call.

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Preediction markerst are going to be the next thing separating

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your boyfriend from his salary.

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I’ve been getting into prediction markets and I think more people should be involved.

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So we bought 100 bucks that its gonna go up

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I’m locked in I’m locked in

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Noo0ooo00oo000oo0000o0000oo000000000

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Yooooo this is emotionalllll

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But prediction markets

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weren't always the multi billion dollar addiction

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apps that your husband checks on his phone immediately post climax.

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In fact, prediction markets got their start

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as the insignificant fringe interest of enormous nerds.

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In 1998, faculty members at the University of Iowa created experimental prediction

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markets to discover what we could learn from

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letting people bet on things like the presidential election.

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The Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which oversees pretty much all trading,

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let them run the experiment so long as they kept the money dial

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turned down to for nonprofit academia purposes

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But now these things are most certainly non non profit.

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In fact they’re mucho profit.

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Did you see this coming?

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This explosion of prediction markets?

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Anybody who says they saw this coming is full of sh*t

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I’ll tell you that much

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It was so small there was nothing going on in the background.

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Dustin

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Gouker is a reporter who writes Event Horizon

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a fantastic newsletter on prediction markets, if I do say so myself.

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Dustin explained to me why

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at its core, the idea of prediction

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markets is so potentially valuable in the eyes of the world's beta-blocked

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VC Bros.

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Information is money, right? Information is super valuable

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The more information you can have about world events and what’s to come

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that information is power, like if you can tap into that information

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then you have something and again this is why major

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financial interests are

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really getting into this and really find this interesting.

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The major financial interests Dustin is talking about here are,

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among other things, investment banks and hedge funds,

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a few of which are hiring traders for prediction markets

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titans of traditional news media, Venmo,

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Giannis Atentetakuampah (?) Donald Trump Jr, who's an adviser to polymarket

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and Kalshi and his daddy, whose social media platform is making their own prediction

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market Truth Predict.

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The fundamental argument for prediction markets

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usefulness is that they tap into the so-called wisdom of crowds,

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turning them into an extremely accurate predictive tool.

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The idea is that if you get a large number of people betting on something,

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you're going to approximate the best possible guess at the outcome.

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With modern prediction markets specifically

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this has to do with the sheer number of people betting,

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but also the types of people betting -- experts and people with inside

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information could be incentivized to get in on the action.

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These traits were immediately noted by economists in the early 2000s

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who noticed that the Iowa Electronics Market was actually

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predicting political outcomes better than most experts and pollsters.

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We also saw an example of this in the 2024 presidential election

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when traditional forecasting methods

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had the races a toss up, but prediction markets saw it as a clear Trump dub.

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And it's this kind of stuff that has Kalshi claiming

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their predictions are as good as Wall Street and as Polymarket’s

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CEO Shane Copelan feeling confident enough to talk a big game to this

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immortal news self.

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And how accurate is it?

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It’s the most accurate thing we have

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as mankind right now

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until someone else records some sort of super crystal ball.

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But perhaps

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you're wondering how the Benny Blanco of Peter Thiels

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got away with running this multi-billion dollar company.

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I thought prediction markets were supposed to be non profit.

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And in Iowa, what happened?

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Now, quick lesson on legalized gambling for ya: here in the United States, if you want to

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first of all that’s a great idea and you’re gonna become a trillionaire.

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But second of all, you’re gonna need to hire a high-functioning team

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of cold, heartless lawyers to machete their way through jungles of red tape

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to launch said gambling product.

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It took the sports betting industry years and years of lobbying and groundwork

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to launch their products, and because gambling is regulated by the states, not the federal

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government so they had to do the whole process state by state.

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And they’ve still got 11 more states to go.

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But Kalshi and Polymarket? These cats work smarter, not harder.

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They looked at everything you have to do to legally launch a gambling product and said:

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Dustin hows this stuff not illegal?

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That’s a big question, it’s the question everybody’s grappling with right now.

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It’s legal because it’s federally regulated under the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

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Now, if you'll remember, the good people over at the Commodity Futures

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Trading Commission who oversee futures and other derivatives trading,

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not juicy enough

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Excellent.

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Basically, prediction markets like Kalshi and Polymarket consider themselves

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to be closer to the Iowa Electronics Market than DraftKings.

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By this logic, their argument to the CFTC is that what they offer

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isn't a gambling product, but instead markets to trade futures

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contracts on real world events that have meaningful economic consequences.

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We're a neutral, transparent financial market.

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We're like the New York Stock Exchange.

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What is the difference between gambling and prediction markets?

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There hasn't been a single financial derivative that has been set up in the U.S

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or otherwise, that hasn't been called gambling at the beginning.

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Now-

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we're starting to get into some sticky legal territory here.

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and if I'm keeping it 100, I do not 100% comprendo.

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And whenever that happens, I'm always sure to call up

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a professor of business law at Seton Hall Law School.

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I'm a professor of business law at Seton Hall Law School,

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Home of the-?

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Home of basketball players?

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What's your mascot?

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What's your mascot you got over there?

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I should know this-

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You don’t know-

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We'll edit that part out.

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So home of the-?

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Pirates.

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There we go.

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I tasked ol’ Ilya Beylin here with translating the legalese

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by which polymarket and kalshi argue they're permitted

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to operate their platforms across the country.

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The instruments that prediction markets use are styled as derivatives.

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And they can be styled as swaps.

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They can also potentially be styled as futures or options,

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but irrespective of which derivative they're styled as,

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once they're characterized as a derivative, they -- subject to --

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some considerations can be listed on a derivatives exchange

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this goes back to, late 1800s, early 1900s

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a major exchange, Chicago Board of Trade.

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There were a few other exchanges, too.

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It was hosting some real trading and grain, Civil

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War, foodstuffs it also started trading what are called futures.

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certain grade of a commodity at a certain price future

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and these were the first exchange traded derivatives we saw in the US.

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His words were going in my mouth and up to my brain

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with a speed and complexity I was frankly uncomfortable with.

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I needed to reestablish control.

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I just want to let you know, no matter how hard you try, I'm right there with you.

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I love it.

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I know it might not look like it, but mentally, I'm.

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I'm exactly where you are.

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I like walking odd woods and companies.

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Good in them.

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I'm in. I'm in that woods with you.

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I'm in the woods with your brother.

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Kaboom

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If it's economic function

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and utility, that's the key to legalization here.

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How come I'm looking on prediction markets.

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and there's a 5% chance that Jesus is going to come back.

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Yeahhhh

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It's a great question.

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Thank you.

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The explanation is drift.

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The explanation is regulatory drift.

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What does that mean?

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You start at a

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place where something makes a lot of sense,

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and then circumstances evolve, and products, financial products

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as all these evolutions are taking place, they change,

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at each step, the new one sort of resembles the status quo.

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but the steps get further and further from that core

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including the core purposes that an instrument at the time

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it was brought into the regulatory system was designed to serve.

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Thank you Ilya, that was beautiful.

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but it also alludes to why, again, this all feels like

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it shouldn't be allowed.

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I think my problem with Kalshi

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is they tell us that none of what they’re doing is gambling.

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That’s the big thing.

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The argument is, so under the CFTC

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everything has an economic consequence. If you’re allowing event contracts

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it has to have an economic consequence, right? In the world.

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So in that world, everything has an economic consequence, I can invent an economic consequence

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for everything but yeah

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there’s this line of yeah, things that are really important

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markets, Fed interest rates cuts the price of bitcoin

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these are things that are very easy to diagnose they have an economic consequence in the world.

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All these other things are more just for betting and speculation

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and again, like, we have these things because there hasn’t been a whole lot of thought

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Kalshi insists that everything is an event

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everything can be traded and there you go, you get everything in the world

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and again the CFTC has just kinda said “sure, it’s all an event.”

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“We’re not gonna stop you.”

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And amongst the events that take place

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daily in our world, there is none bigger than sports.

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Which dominate prediction market volume and make them seem pretty gambl-y.

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Kalshi in particular

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has made a big push into sports, which has been a huge source of growth.

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The numbers constantly changing, but as of late 2025, about 90% of the fees

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Kalshi was collecting on trades came from sports, trades like taking

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Los Angeles L over New York K in pro basketball

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clearly day and night

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from gambling on the Los Angeles Lakers to beat the New York Knicks on DraftKings.

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And if you're thinking, well, gee, Dan Kalshi’s argument for this not being sports

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gambling is feeling pretty thin.

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Well, when they first launched sports contracts, they literally ran

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ads saying sports betting is now legal in all 50 states.

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Kalshi has now distanced themselves from this language.

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But come on

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Let's zoom out from the nitty gritty and activate Common Sense mode here.

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The vast majority of

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people think that sports contracts are gambling and not financial contracts.

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God damn it

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I even found a guy who's pretty much a professional prediction markets trader.

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And even he thinks it's ridiculous

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these things aren't classified as gambling.

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On Kalshi I’ve got a quarter million dollars

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and I’m out of cash constantly

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because there’s so much stuff to trade on every single day.

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So you've made-

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you've made a quarter mil on Kalshi or that's what you currently have?

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That’s what I currently have I think I’m at like $550,000 or $560,000 in career earnings there?

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And I really started in March of 2024

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I’ve been asked by companies to respond to reporters and say that it’s not gambling

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and it’s like well I don’t really believe that so

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look for somebody else

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if you’re arguing that it’s not gambling you’ve got a tough battle ahead of you

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but there’s different types of gambling

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like if I’m flipping a coin and calling it

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there’s no skill to that, right?

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It’s 50/50, you’re right or you’re wrong.

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But something like poker or prediction markets or the stock market

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there’s ways to give yourself an edge so you have to have an edge of some sort

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like if you’re an idiot you’re probably not gonna do well

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So you gotta have some level of intelligence

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Idiots are not gonna do well in these?

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I would recommend if you’re an idiot

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do not join this unless you wanna just lose money for fun.

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Ultimately, law has to be about the people, not the legalese.

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What's the difference when you open up a wager on the Red Sox game

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on, say, FanDuel versus Kalshi? Why is one gambling

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and the other legitimate financial activity

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that's regulated by the federal government?

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Because a layman

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laywoman, can’t-

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Layman.

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Layman.

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Can't come up with a good justification for that distinction

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I think we're sort of in real trouble.

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To be clear I don’t think prediction markets should be banned

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I think that there is some value and I think that people should be able to interact

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with them how they want

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But I do think that the regulation around them has to shift

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New correspondent is Kyla Scanlon,

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an author and economics commentator who recently published an op ed

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about the dangers of prediction markets in some rag called The New York Times

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I try to stay away from good and bad as words

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but I think the reason it might be something to be cautious about

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is because of what the platforms incentivize which is insider trading

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they also have a lot of really questionable markets

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so there’s markets on whether or not the leader of Iran will be overthrown

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there’s markets on all these things that maybe, again, maybe we shouldn’t be betting on

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and so there’s sort of this validation that the mainstream outlets

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are providing to prediction markets when they do partner with them

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and talk about the odds as this sort of consensus reality

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like this thing that we should all accept is happening because there’s bets

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that it’s going to happen

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I’m not saying that people are wrong for doing this

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it makes sense and I think it ties into the broader issue of financial nihilism

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where people feel like they can’t get ahead so they might as well go bet on this stuff

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but that creates further desensitization too

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so I think you can become more attached to something happening

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but becoming more attached to a leader getting overthrown

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cuz you have money on the line, I think that’s psychologically and morally

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morals are tough but like that’s a tough one

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to process, right?

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Indeed, it seems to me that what these prediction

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market companies are doing

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isn't so much capitalizing on their potential economic value,

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but rather the general chaos of our world, fueled by a never ending media cycle

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and the crippling gambling addiction me and the boys developed

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after parlaying on Aaron Rodgers back in 2011.

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I mean, this is what happens when you pump your dorky finance product

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with 100fl oz of VC backed cash steroids.

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It's a brash strategy, but will that strategy

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work out for them in the long run?

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Seems to be a GAMBLE they're willing to take.

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You can BET on that.

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Casino.

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For Good Work

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I'm Dan Toomey.

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Have you ever placed a Kalshi wager yourself?

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No.

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Who do you think's going to open for Bad Bunny at half time?

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Do you think it's going to be ti ti me pregunto

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or baile inolvidable

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Shit.

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Okay.

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What song do you think Bad Bunny is going to play first at halftime?

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Is it going to be ti ti me pregunto

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or baile inolvidable

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I lack expertise in that question

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that might not be a market I wager on.

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Sounds like ti ti me pregunto

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I’ll put $100 on that.

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