How DEEP the Banking Crisis will Go | WARNING.
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Goldman Sachs has opinions on how bad
this global banking crisis is going to
be and they give us some breakdowns of
where exactly we think some of the pain
is going to be and where the pain won't
be and they actually give us a breakdown
of five
explanations on how this banking crisis
could affect us and these five things
are actually pretty neat to understand
because they could give us a little bit
of guidance on how to invest going
forward now I think you all know this
already even though I'm a licensed
financial advisor the information in the
videos is not personalized Financial
advice but my thesis lately has been
that I think a Nike Swoosh recovery is
underway that is Peak fear occurred
somewhere between June and October where
we really thought we were going to get
Paul volckerd ever since the inflection
point in inflation those fears largely
went away and my belief is that the best
stocks to invest in between now and when
Real Estate bottoms when it makes time
to transition or potentially make sense
to transition to real estate between now
and then I think the best strategy is
investing in pricing power stocks
companies that have high free cash flow
and ideally are profitable the reason
you want High free cash flow and
profitable is so that they don't have to
raise money uh potentially because of a
negative earnings although they do have
high uh free cash flow they might still
have to raise money to invest and
continue to expand in growth so if you
get that combo of High free cash flow
and positive net net that could be a
nice way to get through especially if
you're focusing on those wealthier
companies or individuals and where they
might be spending because they might
have the most ability to spend through a
recession with that sort of recap done
it's important now to look at exactly
what Goldman Sachs thinks about this
banking crisis and I really think this
breakdown is interesting because a lot
of people are freaking out about this
idea that we are definitely going to see
a big slowdown and a massive credit
tightening that is just going to worse
first in the recession I was talking
about this yesterday and according to
NatWest we haven't actually yet seen a
short-term tightening in credit
conditions and that made me really
interested because I was talking with my
team and I mentioned hey we haven't seen
a short-term slowdown and or tightening
of credit conditions and since we
haven't seen a tightening of credit
conditions why uh like do we expect a
worse recession why do we think credit
conditions will tighten in the future
and our thought was well it'll probably
come right like credit conditions will
probably tighten and crush the economy
right well maybe not let's take a look
in here to Goldman sachs's view so they
say right here it's still too early to
have a very confident view of exactly
what's going to happen our Baseline
expectation is that reduced credit
availability will prove to be a headwind
so in other words a reduction in credit
is likely to happen but so far it
actually looks like it might just be a
headwind rather than a hurricane that
pushes the economy into recession and
forces the FED to ease aggressively now
because of this banking crisis Goldman
Sachs is actually moving up their
opinion that we're going to go into a
recession from 25 to 35 percent so
they've actually increased their opinion
that they're going in we're going into a
recession no they're very low on the
recessionary standard uh there's a 60
consensus estimate that we're going into
a recession these are all of the
estimates right here on forecasters who
think we're heading into a recession
Goldman Sachs is over here at just 35
whereas the median forecast is 60 chance
we're heading into a recession here but
they say here that yes there are risks
skewed to the negative that credit
tightening could be worse than we
actually think it will be so it's
possible things could go bad but it
seems like credit tightening might just
end up being a headwind and not a
hurricane and they give five reasons for
that and of course they do think that
ultimately GDP growth will be hit by
about four percentage points GDP
dropping from about 1.5 to 1.1 percent
but that's not recessionary that's still
clearly above zero zero is where you get
to recessionary so why are the numbers
not bigger and here are the five reasons
and I'll tell you they are fantastic
fantastic explanations on maybe why the
banking crisis won't be as bad as
actually thought and I really have been
looking for reasons like this because
the last couple weeks I've been a little
frustrated with how little literature
there is on on credit titing and I'm
thinking to myself like hasn't there
already been a lot of credit hiding is
there really going to be a lot more
because some risky banks failed so that
was my concern sort of in the back of my
mind like are we being too bearish here
so what does Goldman Sachs say and I
thought this was really interesting why
are these numbers not bigger first banks
have already been tightening their
credit standards since mid-21 2022 so
the incremental impact of the recent
turmoil on credit availability and
growth should be much smaller than the
situation in 2008 where the prior
expansion was largely built on easy
credit
real uh relatedly the private sector
runs a small Financial Surplus today so
first first big thing hey we actually
have already been tightening credit
standards so just because some risky
banks are going away who cares that
might not actually change anything on
top of that the private sector has more
cash today than it did in 2008 in fact
in 2008 businesses in the private sector
had a quote sizable deficit whereas
today we actually have a small Financial
Surplus
uh next uh I guess that's part of Reason
number one according to them so okay
fine second we do not expect larger
Banks which have high capital and
liquidity standards uh to be uh and are
subject to more stringent stress tests
to reduce loan Supply further they do
not expect big Banks to reduce loan
Supply further keep this in mind sort of
anecdotally
if I go to a big four bank and I've done
this in in my career and then when I
finally realized what the rule was I
stopped I remember going to the big four
Banks many times Bank of America City
Wells uh JP Morgan and I've gone to them
I'm like hey I got you know a real
estate portfolio 27 properties here it's
worth you know 24 25 million dollars I
I'd like to refinance the portfolio with
you oh we don't do portfolio loans okay
how many of them can I refinance with
you well we can only do four loans and
I'm like but Fannie and Freddie Mac uh
uh let you go up to 10 loans per person
which would be 20 loans for my wife and
I and like yeah no sorry Dodd-Frank says
we can only do four loans
and I basically have to walk out of the
big Banks because they're so tight
they're so tight they squeak uh and so
like how much tighter can it actually
get at the big Banks they basically suck
uh and this is why you do to some extent
want small Banks because it's easier to
get home equity lines of credit
portfolio lines of credit now you want
to be careful with with your cash
deposits because you don't want to be
subject to potentially taking a haircut
on your deposit uh that's why we've been
having these bankrupt fears but this is
actually a good argument that how much
tighter can they actually get I agree
uh number three third unrealized losses
on hell to mature maturity Bond
portfolios have diminished in the recent
rates Market rally another major
difference from 2008 when the problem
was that assets lost value during the
crisis okay so this is really important
to pay attention to
so understand this and I'm going to make
it very very simple okay let's say this
right here is your bag there we go this
is your your bag and we're gonna label
it this is your bag okay
in 2008
the value of your bag went down because
inside of this bag
were bonds and the value of those went
down in 2008. during that financial
crisis during today's financial crisis
23 the value of your bag is actually
going up
yes the value of your bag is going up in
2023 why because as soon as this banking
crisis started everybody fled to bonds
for safety and so the value of bonds
actually skyrocketed and yields fell as
people were fleeing to safety of bonds
more depositors were taking money out of
deposit and putting them into bonds
which actually increased the value of
the hell to maturity portfolios at Banks
so it's actually a really good point
that wait a minute wait a sec this is
different because number three the the
value of our bags is going up not down
this is completely the opposite of 2008.
fourth demand for credit in commercial
real estate where 80 of outstanding bank
loans are from uh sub 250 Bill Banks
were already Under Pressure because of
post covet changes in the real economy
so the incremental activity of reduced
credit may end up being quite muted in
that sector basically what they're
saying here is a after covid less people
were getting loans from uh smaller banks
in the commercial banking sector anyway
because well after all after covid less
people wanted to finance new Office
Buildings or commercial buildings anyway
so what difference does it make okay
good uh then an immediate source of
downside risk would be another deposit
run uh and uh keep in mind deposit runs
are somewhat related to retail
inventories retail inventories just came
out this very minute that I'm recording
this retail inventory is my month over
month up 0.8 percent but it kind of
suggests that people aren't actually
spending money on stuff as much and
inventories are piling up a little bit
wholesale inventories came in at point
two percent versus the negative point
one percent expected retail inventories
came in at point eight versus the point
two percent expected so a little bit of
a beat on inventories there is
potentially people are keeping more cash
but now the concern is even though
people are keeping more cash they're
looking for a yield on that cash so what
are they doing well obviously they're
buying big no they're not obviously
they're moving money into money market
funds high-yield savings accounts or CDs
or treasuries to get to actually get a
yield on their cash now keep in mind one
of the reasons you can get a yield on
your cash is because at least in my
opinion there's a huge opportunity cost
to being in treasuries or cash yielding
accounts right now because you're
potentially missing out on what could be
very substantial stock market gains but
then there's a flip side where there's a
potential of stock market gains there's
more risk and that's why that four or
five percent real yield right or not
real that four or five percent yield
right now is considered uh risk-free
whereas uh your stock opportunity cost
comes with a lot of risk right anyway an
immediate source of downside risk is
another deposit run an effective way to
reduce this risk would be to basically
guarantee all deposits fine
then Goldman Sachs goes on to say a more
subtle risk comes from upward pressure
on deposit rates and this is basically
saying that banks are going to have to
pay out more money and it's going to
lower their net interest income their
nii so if their nii goes down to prevent
that uh deposit flight then Bank
profitability could go down
there's also uh the fact that you know
they believe the FED should have paused
last time but because of the FED
continuing to go you could create some
more turmoil in markets however they're
actually optimistic on China and they're
raising their GDP forecast on China to
six percent uh versus uh versus the
United States and Europe where they're a
little bit more nervous
so what is sort of a conclusion
conclude off of this piece uh well oh
take a look at this chart this is
actually really interesting too uh and
then I want to get to the conclusion of
this piece look at these small Bank
withdrawals right here or change in
deposits massive flight out of small
Banks right here I mean that makes a lot
of sense but what is the point of this
piece
well this piece is basically telling you
everybody's really
concerned about oh no credit tightening
credit tightening credit tightening like
it's gonna Crush our economy we're gonna
go into a a big you know uh economic
Crush uh and and earnings are gonna
crash even more because of all this
credit tightening
that if there's this potential that all
this fear about credit tightening and a
massive economic depression because of
credit tightening could be the same kind
of Click bait when everybody was
screaming oil's going back to 140
dollars a barrel
just doesn't happen
the reason for that is very simply small
banks have already been lending less
because of commercial properties big
Banks already have tight lending
standards so it's hard to tighten them
even more so you might not actually see
any material difference in credit
standards Bank bags are getting smaller
not bigger big difference from 2008
private sector businesses have more
money today than they did in the past
and the FED even though they didn't
pause the last meeting are probably
likely to pause
next meeting or certainly the meeting
thereafter and more of those stresses of
economic strain could actually be
limited and so this is where they say
reasonably so hey look if we don't have
a Paul volcker well then we don't have
you know the worst case scenario but on
top of that we might not even get a
hurricane like Jamie Diamond forecasted
we might just get some headwinds that
basically just slow the economy down a
little bit which isn't that the point
isn't the whole point of what the fed's
doing
to slow down the demand side of the
equation to slow the economy to a level
of below Trend growth if trend is two to
two and a half percent growth and we're
growing at one percent there you go
fed's mission accomplished so with all
of that said it doesn't seem like the
economy actually is going to potentially
have this horrible credit tightening
cycle that just destroys the earnings of
every single company instead it seems
like hey it's gonna be some they're
gonna be some small effects but really
do they say get out of markets I don't
think so and neither does Goldman Sachs
so this is actually pretty positive news
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