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we've got to talk about Tesla investor

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day and the new preview out by Barclays

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this preview just out we got to go

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through what their opinion is of Master

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Plan Three and I think that's really

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important to do because the Tesla event

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the investor Day event actually occurs

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after the market closes I mean that's no

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surprise it's no surprise that all the

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juicy stuff will occur after the market

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closes uh in fact I can give you the

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schedule of what we're looking at for

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investor day at least I think I can I

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have that here somewhere uh but anyway

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most of the activities and most of the

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actual announcements we expect to occur

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in the second half of the day here we go

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11 A.M today is event check-in all of

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these times are Central Standard Time 11

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A.M is event check-in uh there will be

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factory tours and plaid demo rides

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doesn't particularly say that there'll

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be any kind of demo rides for the Cyber

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truck but maybe there will be who knows

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it says plaid demo rides uh that will go

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from 11AM to 2 45 p.m and I believe

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Tesla's starting to live stream at 1pm

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but I don't actually expect anything to

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really occur until the keynote which the

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keynote address is set for 3 P.M central

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time that's 1pm California time the

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keynote literally starts

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the moment the market closes

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uh so kind of interesting q a will be

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from 4 30 to 5 30 p.m and then there

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will be a meet and greet between 5 30 to

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7 P.M uh seven yeah 7 P.M so 90 minutes

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anyway so what does Barclay say for the

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investor Day preview well let's take a

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master plan 3 Grand scale okay great

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let's look at some of the comments here

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so as a reminder master plan one was

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number one build a sports car number two

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use that money to build an affordable

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car number three use that money to build

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an even more affordable car and while

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doing the above provide a zero emission

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electric power generation option okay so

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that has somewhat been achieved a lot of

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these plans have been quote never fully

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uh realized or have never fully

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materialized but it's okay to sort of

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like you make a plan and as long as you

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can Trend in that direction you're doing

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pretty dang well right so master plan on

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uh

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pretty great master plan 2 was created

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stunning solar roofs and those really

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haven't scaled terribly well with

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integrated battery storage those are

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doing pretty decently those are ramping

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pretty well as well as the mega packs

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fantastic in fact a lot of Tesla Bulls

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are saying you know we got to start

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realizing the potential 50 margin that

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uh that uh that all of a sudden you end

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up having with um uh with with mega

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packs and you start putting that into

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Tesla uh uh you know forecast for for

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stock pricing oh Everything Changes

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Everything Changes when you start

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putting Mega packs into the Tesla

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analysis now I personally don't like

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putting in mega packs into the Tesla

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analysis because I see it as the icing

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on the cake right I wanna I want to

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ideally try to stay somewhat

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conservative with my projections and I

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say somewhat conservative because I

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think they're already you know they're

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already on the more bullish side right

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we know that if Tesla can manufacture 4

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000 vehicle or Sorry 4 million vehicles

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in 2025 at an average selling price of

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40 seven thousand dollars I align uh

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with with a lot of the industry on this

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average selling price and if anything my

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number of vehicles produced is probably

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on the lower side for 2025

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but anyway uh if I use this with only

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about a 10 take rate on FSD uh on uh on

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the number of vehicles and then only 10

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of those uh that money being realized in

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2025 so it's uh basically the point of

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that uh is to say Hey you know we're

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going to take the number of hold on let

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me make sure I have this right uh we

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have the number of vehicles four million

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Vehicles we're gonna assume a 10 take

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rate okay I actually have it at 10 take

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rate the reason I did a 10 take rate

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rather than the current take rate of 20

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or the potential forecast to take rate

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of 30 or 40 percent by 2025 is because

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they did come out with a monthly option

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to pay monthly for this so I don't think

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it'll all translate down to uh cash flow

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although a lot of people will sign up

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for full self-driving as part of their

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uh amortization for their loan which

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basically means Tesla's paying for

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getting the money up front so I think

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I'm actually very conservative bottom

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line I think I'm very conservative on a

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10 take rate here

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25 margin we know that Tesla's probably

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going to go to about a 20 gross margin

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their goal is 30 I'm just gonna go with

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about a 25 margin here and I'm mostly

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going to leave uh energy and services

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out of this I'll have a little bit in

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here for uh leases Services energy I

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have about uh one percent over here and

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I have margin of energy of only 18 some

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people think you could massively 10x

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these numbers you could probably have a

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margin of fifty percent here and maybe

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10 uh you know um 10x the energy Revenue

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I'm just gonna call that icing on the

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cake as well as a higher take rate for

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FSC that's just icing on the cake for me

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so in my opinion as long as Tesla's

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growing earnings per share in excess of

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30 and we take a PEG ratio of one you

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know at that level of about 1.6 percent

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well PEG ratio of about 1.6 percent

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would drive us to about a 500 reasonable

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price target for Tesla by 2025. the

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present value for Tesla is about 210

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dollars per share which gets you about a

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compounded annual rate of return of

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about 34 that's pretty substantial now

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that's not a guarantee right still

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pretty substantial not a guarantee of

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course but it's great it's fantastic so

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uh that sort of gives you just a catch

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up on this so what does Barclays tell us

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here well they talk about master plan

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two again you know coming out with full

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self-driving being much more capable 10x

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safer than manual learning so what is

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this next master plan 3 likely to reveal

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well Barclays believes that their

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Generation 3 platform is going to be

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what we get revealed and it will be the

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basis for the quote-unquote model two

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now this is really interesting because I

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personally don't think there's going to

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be an announced model too unless it's

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specifically for the Chinese market I

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actually think the model 3 is the model

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2. I think the model 3 is what Tesla

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wants to reduce its cost in by about 50

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and if they can reduce their cost on the

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model 3 by 50 then that's fantastic

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because right now you're running at a

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margin of your running at a cost of

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about thirty two thousand two hundred

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and fifty dollars for the car if they

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could reduce that to about sixteen

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thousand five hundred bucks and they

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wanna operate at a margin of twenty five

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percent well now all of a sudden you've

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got a car that probably could sell uh

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for about let's see if I divide it that

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car at actually even a thirty percent

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margin if 16 000 represents seventy

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percent there we go you get a car that

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costs only about twenty three thousand

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dollars so in other words if they can

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reduce the cost of the model three today

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by fifty percent they could sell the

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model three for twenty five thousand

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dollars and actually make more profit

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phenomenal so I actually personally

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think the model 3 is the next model too

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but Arc invest thinks they're going to

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announce a new model too today uh or

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some kind of new model vehicle today uh

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Barclays thinks that they're going to

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announce the basis for the model too

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especially given that Tesla right now is

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primarily positioned for the luxury

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Market uh and they say that in order for

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Tesla to actually achieve that 20

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million volume number that they're

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trying to achieve by the end of the

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decade or at some point in the future

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then they need to have some kind of 25

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000 vehicle again my take is that's

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already the model 3 and just reducing

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the cost there now they have a different

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opinion they base that opinion on Elon

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Musk suggesting that the uh vehicle will

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be smaller than the model 3 Model y

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platform and it will shortly exceed the

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production uh of all of our other

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vehicles combined I think they mean

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surely here surely here but but anyway

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uh Elon Musk apply implied in the Q3

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earnings call that Tesla will aim for a

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50 cost of goods sold reduction

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and uh Barclays here is suggesting they

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think they're going to see somewhat

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similar of an investor day today like

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what we saw at battery Day Battery day

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is basically where they showed like

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pictures of of the batteries uh the 4680

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cells and how they're able to increase

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the efficiency of these batteries while

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reducing costs now I'm a little

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skeptical about how great some of these

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things are because the battery is bigger

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right like of course a battery cell

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that's larger has five times more energy

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or six times potentially more power it's

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a bigger cell yeah you know it's kind of

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like going from a c battery to a D

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battery so I'm a little skeptical there

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but I do think they'll get some kind of

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marginal improvements like you know

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maybe 16 more efficiency or whatever we

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want to see is today going to be a

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realistic path to potentially lower cost

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of production are we going to see more

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Giga castings can we do the whole you

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know can we do the front the back and

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the bottom not just those in Giga uh you

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know via Giga castings but can we do

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bigger vehicles like maybe Vans like

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Sprinter vans can we cast together

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Sprinter vans from Tesla and then have

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full self-driving Sprint advance I love

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the Sprinter van by the way I think

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Tesla needs to get in that market there

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really is no Mommy car for Tesla by the

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way if you have two kids best case

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scenario you have a five seat model X or

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model Y and then you actually have some

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trunk space but if you have any more

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than two kids or you have the seven seed

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option for the model of or even the six

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seat option for the model X or Y you're

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screwed your trunk space goes down to

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zero you ain't putting a stroller in as

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soon as you you have a third kid you're

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screwed there is no three child mommy

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Tesla car you need you need to go to a

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minivan and personally I think that

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sucks don't get me wrong I'm not trying

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to offend minivan folks we own a minivan

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and it's the most functional car we have

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uh you know when we gotta take uh the

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in-laws the kids me and Lauren we got

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two kids to the airport and have all our

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luggage the minivan works but as soon as

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we have one other kid we're screwed and

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we have to have a sprinter van which I'm

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really excited about Lauren's like I

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don't know man I don't want to drop my

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kids off at a sprinter van I'm like this

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is why we need a mommy car anyway like

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that's not a minivan but anyway

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they talk here about cost reductions

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coming uh to batteries potentially

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increasing scale vertical integration

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structural improvements structural

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castings manufacturing improvements and

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trying to reduce manufacturing floor

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space by 50 for their third gen platform

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now it's worth noting that they are

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looking at uh potentially announcing

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today the Mexico gigafactory that would

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be about three hours from a giga Texas

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the Mexico gigafactory is expected to

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see about one billion dollars of capex

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Investments soon and up to 10 billion

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dollars of capex Investments over time

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we actually actually also just got this

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update here that in addition to

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potentially announcing an actual

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gigafactory in Northeast Mexico now

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there's an update just now coming in

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that Tesla is considering opening an

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electric battery vehicle or an electric

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battery plant I'm sorry not a vehicle

12:11

plant in central Mexico so not just a

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gigafactory in Northeast Mexico where

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remember in California we're paying like

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20 bucks an hour for workers and taxes

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you're paying like 15 bucks an hour for

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workers in Northeast Mexico you're

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paying like 3.40 per hour for labor in

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Northeast Mexico some people are like oh

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my God that's exploitation But realize

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like capitalism that brings more work to

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those areas drives wages up in those

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areas so it's actually helps those areas

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get wages up uh but anyway

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the United Auto Workers Union by the way

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in the United States is like punching

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the air right now they're like damn you

12:45

good Elon Musk going to Mexico

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is the inflation reduction act uh which

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is important for capitalizing on that 7

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500 vehicle tax credit which you have

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over here and Barclays mentioned as well

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uh it means that Tesla has to Source its

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battery materials from North America and

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then assemble the stuff in North America

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well look low and Below low and behold

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new Tesla Nuevo Leon plant could create

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up to 6 000 jobs battery plan in central

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Mexico fantastic so again Lower costs

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for Tesla you help increase wages in

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Mexico you have a substantially lower

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cost of doing business and you meet the

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benefit of the inflation reduction act

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now maybe that wasn't the political

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intention maybe the political intention

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was to have Tesla manufacturing stuff

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here but instead they're now doing it in

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Mexico because they can but hey that's

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the politicians problems and that's

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exactly why the United Auto Workers

13:39

Union is like punch in the air anyway

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here's an example of what Barclays

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thinks for forecasts

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current uh model 3 looking at a cost of

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goods sold at about twenty seven

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thousand nine hundred dollars minus the

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battery excluding the battery the model

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2 low-cost vehicle could have a cost of

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about sixteen thousand five hundred

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dollars boom baby that's exactly what

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I've been talking about for weeks on

14:06

this channel that in order to have a

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twenty five thousand dollar vehicle I

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mean it's not hard to do the math

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you got to be sitting at somewhere

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around sixteen thousand dollars for cogs

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now Barclays actually thinks they're

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going to announce something like this

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today uh now what they do think though

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is images of the model too

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probably not going to happen so they

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think it's unlikely that there'll be

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images of the model too because they

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don't want to cannibalize current sales

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and that's again why I think it's more

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likely that project Highland is the

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model too in other words the model 3 is

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the model 2. it's just the new model 3

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it's just a cheaper version that you

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could sell at a lower price uh you know

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project Highland vehicles in camo have

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been spotted you know covers over the

14:46

front back as far as the model too we

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don't expect Tesla to show a vehicle at

14:50

investor day as this could risk

14:51

cannibalizing the current demand and

14:54

lastly we assume the model 2 will be a

14:55

different model than the 3y platform I

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personally disagree with that but we'll

14:58

see we'll see I'm willing to be raw I

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don't mind being wrong I do think if

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there's a model 2 it's gonna be China I

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think the model 3 is the smallest thing

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you could sell in America and and I

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really took that to heart when I talked

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to Brett Whitton from Arc invest type

15:11

that into YouTube meet Kevin Ark invest

15:13

I just interviewed Brett in person at

15:15

Santa Monica beautiful by the way it's a

15:17

little chilly but it's beautiful

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uh okay so we talked about that plant

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already manufacturing will be a central

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theme of investor day we expect Tesla to

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point to key aspects of the Austin

15:27

gigafactory as the basis for Tesla's

15:30

manufacturing key question here is

15:32

around other manufacturing expansion are

15:34

we going to expand Fremont Shanghai

15:36

Austin Berlin currently at 2 million

15:38

units a year how are we going to scale

15:40

that to four five six how is that going

15:42

to uh scale you know here you go our

15:45

estimates of Tesla deliveries they

15:47

actually think

15:48

that uh oh uh gosh that's quite

15:51

disappointing but anyway the annual

15:53

delivery estimates here for 2025 are are

15:56

a very very slow ramp by Barclays here

15:58

look at this this is like a trashy ramp

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I mean they're basically saying we're

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going to be at about 1 8 for 2023 barely

16:06

grow in 24 barely grow I mean we're

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growing at like 10 to 15 over here like

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this would be pretty embarrassing if

16:13

this if it takes until 2030 to get to

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5.5 million Vehicles we shall see

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uh anyway they think the model 2 would

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end up having the lowest margins at

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around 21 with the S's and X's like the

16:26

Plaid sitting around 32 percent maybe

16:27

the Roadster in cyber truck up here in

16:29

high margins as well and notice they

16:31

left off this uh the semio over here

16:33

these are some of the current uh

16:35

production uh capacity numbers for Tesla

16:37

or or some projections that they have uh

16:40

4680 progress the larger of when

16:42

questions from investor for brand new

16:44

models uh well maybe we'll be talking

16:46

about today longer dated initiatives uh

16:49

potentially hey maybe we'll hear a

16:50

little bit about lithium miners maybe

16:52

we'll hear a little bit about uh the uh

16:55

the software Sac or even the uh robot

16:57

the robot not only Robo taxi but what

17:00

about the robot uh they do say they

17:02

don't expect much on in terms of

17:04

financial targets maybe that's actually

17:06

a good thing because if like Wall Street

17:07

doesn't actually think that Tesla's

17:10

going to be able to scale at this level

17:11

maybe that means the price targets are

17:13

way too low for Tesla right now uh so

17:16

you know they do talk about Tesla having

17:18

a margin Edge over Legacy automakers

17:20

obviously we already know that we know

17:22

that Tesla's lead in creating

17:23

software-defined Vehicles is an

17:25

opportunity key differentiating factor

17:27

of course we know that uh Tesla EV

17:30

Supply chains maybe we'll hear a little

17:31

bit about that uh we acknowledge the

17:33

near-term questions of further price

17:35

cuts and margin normalization from lofty

17:37

levels previously uh that said the

17:39

underlying fundamentals combined with a

17:40

valuation that appear far more

17:42

reasonable compared to a historic

17:43

pricing so even though Barclays is kind

17:46

of skeptical on some of the forecasts of

17:48

numbers produced uh you know we you know

17:52

they actually see Tesla's reasonably

17:54

value today those who remain bullish see

17:56

further upside but have pointed out that

17:58

Tesla's 2030 volume opportunity is

18:00

likely above our 5.5 million units more

18:03

like 7 to 10 million units and Tesla

18:05

might lean into this with its

18:07

significant cost Advantage so in other

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words Barclays is actually already

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saying like yeah our forecasts might be

18:14

a little on the low side for Tesla's

18:17

production uh yeah I think anyway kind

18:21

of interesting and it's almost as

18:22

interesting as recognizing that hey

18:24

Tesla is now opening up their

18:26

superchargers uh to other individuals

18:29

I'm really curious to see how that

18:31

charging is going to uh lead to

18:33

congestion because it's going to take a

18:35

while to actually see a lack of

18:37

congestion I think because Tesla's going

18:39

to take billions of dollars from the

18:40

government and build more Chargers but

18:42

the congestion thing bothers me although

18:44

I don't even charge with the

18:45

superchargers because I don't go

18:46

anywhere but where I do go is to course

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